How To: Stihl Double Dogs (Spikes) MS 261 CM
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Just a quickie vid, thought I'd bring the camera along while I put my extra set of log dogs on the 261. Two reasons for them: assurance of straighter felling cuts/cutting overall, and pure aesthetic. It sure looks mean with two sets on it!
Stihl Part Number for the "Felling Spikes" kit (both dogs and installation hardware): 0000 660 0800
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I have added the Stihl Part Number for the dog set to the video description in case anyone is needing it! I also will have the PN for the "cover plate" for cutting in heavy snow (goes under recoil starter cover to prevent drawing excess snow/moisture that can ice the carb in winter mode) sometime next week if anyone needs/wants that as well. Took the dealer and I a bit to find that more obscure part, but it's on it's way.
Did you ever get the cover plate PN?
@@beanboggs4190 So sorry, I completely forgot to update it I think. It's just called "cover plate kit" and PN is: 1141 007 1004
I've had it for quite some time now, but ever since I bought it we have yet to get enough snow to warrant installing it lol.
I’m working in deep snow I’d love to see a picture of it placed on the saw so show the company. We have 16 of these saws on the job and are having troubles
@@daverogers4283 do you have an email or something I can send to? I just uploaded a pic to my Facebook page if that’s easier, but I would be happy to take a few more if you need! Feel free to email me at homesteadhoosier@gmail.com for more or better pictures!
1:46 can i ask that's parts number agian? i want to add it for my ms 261
You had me with your seasoned work bench. The stogie on the Mnt Dew can said we were soul mates. lol Keep on keep'n on.
I love a good cigar now and then, especially with a good bourbon though I’ll admit the bourbon doesn’t see as much use these days lol
Thanks for the idea! I just got my ms 261c. I don't know why its just. 'C' . l love it! Its so smooth and elegant melts through wood. I had difficult cuts and it feeds me confidence and keeps me safe.
It may be a slightly older iteration without the new "m-tronic" electronic carburetor. Then again it may just not list the M and still be the M lol. It is a heck of a saw, and I really like the way it handles and looks with the double dog setup!
On the cover plate it will only say C. If you don’t have the holes to tune the carb it’s M-tronic
C means comfort features.
That makes sense James! Kinda like the older 031 AV. Had to advertise the anti-vibration handles back then lol
The 261C is the 261 CM, it's the same saw. There's the 261 (original) and the 261 CM (which just says C on the plate) and that one is the Mtronic with the computer controlled carb.
I added one bumper spike to match the one already on my ms 261 cm. Looks nice! Thanks for the video.
My father had a Stihl in the 70s and his came with double dogs as standard.
Just ordered 3 outside spikes from the dealer for my 261 , 362 ,and 400 . They are all the same spikes.
Great information to have. Thank you!
Wow thanks that’s exactly what I was looking for. I was wondering why they only had one tree dog on there must be for the weight but it sure will come in handy plan on adding it to mine
It would be nice if the pro series saws just came with them by default, but at least they aren’t too expensive to add on.
Just put an order for some black powder coated dogs for the 261 cm. I'm excited
Where’s you find powder coated ones?? That will look awesome!
@@HoosierHomesteaders customchainsawparts on Ebay, Black, Orange, Yellow, Regular, a bit more aggressive on the spikes......
Just a suggestion, read the section in the manual about chain tension.
Thanks for the part number man
Any time!
Enjoyed the video. You don’t have to kill those bar nuts. Just snug them up.
Thanks! Yes, I have a habit of over tightening, I despise having them loosen up when I'm out cutting all day.
picky fukers these tree guys aye" haha
Way too tight on the bar nuts.. snug is plenty.. you can pull the studs right out of the plastic housing on some of the Stihl saws.
Anxious to get the new release of the MS261. Expect it to come with one dog.. may add the second one. Like the looks on yours. tks for the video..
Definitely good advice lol. I’ve messed up a stud before. I’ve always had a bad habit of over-tightening things, but they don’t come loose! (Usually)
Thank you so much
No problem
Might be a good idea to lift the tip of the bar before tightening up the nuts next time..! 😊 Nice workshop 👍
The Axe Man I have seen that that done by a lot of guys but never remember to do it myself. Appreciate the tip and compliment!
A better way is raise the handle with bar nose against the bench and tighten bar nuts. That way ya don't grab an oily, sharp, bar.
i love that saw" when sharp very capable" n easy on old arms" gona buy one but only if they put dogs on it or just one makes big difference" can bite.
Super
Did the spike that came on the saw match the extra one that came with the new pack? I see in video that they appear to be the same. Just wanted to make sure. Thanks.
I ordered a set for my new 261 and they match the same one that came on it. I need the one with smaller bolt pattern on the cover plate. Guess I'll take the saw down so they see what I want.
Oh no! Yeah the cover plate side should be a narrow gap between bolt holes, maybe they just accidentally ordered the wrong part?
Nice
good video... thank you
Thank you!
Thanks for the video and heads up on the inside dawg... good deal!
No problem 👍
HH..that drag you feel loosening nuts is almost always the Loctite Stihl Virginia Beach uses on almost all of their bolts whether into the magnesium casing or nuts. Use the Blue so that you can take it apart later if necessary. Red can be a PITA.
When filing your .325 chain use the 3/16" file to start. when you get to where 1/2 the top plate is gone, drop down to 11/64". The better Stihl dealers carry them. And get a Husky flat plate depth gauge; not the one on their roller guide. The Stih, Husky roller, and Oregon are soft metal and cannot be used for more than a couple filings.
Good video...never knew Stihl had dogs for their smaller saws.
That could very well be, didn't notice any on them upon removal but the one in the blind hole definitely had something on it by feel. I have some loctite 243 I put on them to keep em from vibrating loose.
The 11/64" file is good advice. I have 4 or 5 dealers around me, and my favorite one is willing to order in anything I want for me so no problem there.
As far as the depth gauge, I've mostly taken to not filing directly on it just so they last longer. I check them, pull it away and give it a stroke or two, then check it again till it doesn't catch. Probably not ideal but it works lol.
You need a 2 in 1 file brah, they rock!
I do have one of the Stihl combo files as well, but I don’t tend to use it all that much.
ОК!!! I Love ms 261 c-m
I have 2 of these and bought the knewest one recently.Both of mine are carbs.The older one I removed the limiter adjustment screws.I have built of engines wanted to buy a new one now before they stop carbs.If the cm is better than an unlimited carb adjustment saw, it's hard for me to believe it.I agree 261 best saw per pound,or just best saw period for any tree up to 20"
It is yet to be seen whether the electronic carb will give me issues or not, but as of yet I am really enjoying it. Unlike my other saws, this one is immediately ready to go upon startup, no warmup required. My others of course have to sit and idle for a few minutes to be ready, but the electronic adjustment on this has it ready as soon as it fires and in any temperature conditions without adjustment! Yes, it will likely fail at some point in the future, as it's just another moving part to wear out, but I like it so far!
I've been using an ms441c for more than 10 years without having any issues. Routine maintenance, good gas and oil. The ms441c was the first mtronic carb saw stihl built. I cut between 8-9 cord of firewood a year and mill with it.
Is that an 18" or 20" bar? Love the double spikes. Will be purchasing this saw tomorrow and trying to decide between the two bar sizes.
20". It really is worth the little extra to get the 20" bar in my opinion.
@@HoosierHomesteaders It loses power from 16(mine) to 20"? Would be better at 20 with .050 instead of .063?
Yes, would be a little less resistance so it should help.
Nice setup
Thanks! I'm really liking it so far!
Been watching videos trying to find out what the purpose of the chain dogs- bumper spikes is supposed to do .. Can anyone tell me besides just to make it look mean - cool ?
It will actually give a better bite so you don't slip while you're leveraging the bar in, as well as help to maintain a straighter cut. I find that with them on I always have nice perpendicular cuts rather than angled off one way or another. Aside from that, it just looks really cool lol. It does give another option for laying your saw on its side kinda hanging on a log too. Hope that helps a little?
@@HoosierHomesteaders That makes sense, thanks.
Figured out I only had one dog, bar deep in a tree stump. Needs two. You will likely use the outer dog more anyway cutting bar deep.
Bad Ass saw..💪👊💪
I’m about to put the same dog kit on my ms261 , my question is if you had it to do over would you have not changed the one that was the same as the one that came on the saw
Honestly I’d probably just leave it on there. I haven’t seen or noticed any difference. The one I took off wound up on a friend’s saw because his came with the stamped dog that wasn’t quite as robust, so it did at least get some use.
Check out the set that goes on the MS361 - part #1135 650 7750. You just have to remove a small amount of material from each side of the roller chain catch as it's a bit wide for the 261. I run a 20 inch bar on mine and it sits on the ground without being nose-heavy unlike with the stock setup.
I will look into that, wouldn’t mind having the roller chain catch and beefier setup!
Why is there so much plastic on these new saws , I have a 10 year old 260 75% metal....... the clutch cover plastic on your 261?
The 261 is mostly magnesium, much less plastic than the homeowner grade saws.
Ohh I got you my saw looks really close to yours but the oil tank outside is metal and the clutch cover.....I went to ace hardware they have a stihl dealer in there and not one saw had the metal cover or case.....do they not make them like that anymore or am I looking in the wrong place ?
There is still more plastic on them than they used to have for sure, I have a 30+ year old 031 that is almost entirely steel. Any of the “pro” grade saws (so any model that ends in 61 or 62) is going to have more metal than plastic, with the higher prices bigger ones being even more robust, but they will all have plastic tanks these days. You’re probably in the right place, you’re just going to have to trust that the pro saws have metal where they need it for longevity lol.
Thanks man
I may have been misleading, the oil tank is metal, just the fuel tank is plastic not both.
Would you buy them again?
Absolutely. They really do help to keep your cut nice and straight if you use them for leverage, gives another grip point to rest your saw sideways on a log, plus I think it looks a lot better with them on. It's also only just under $20 for the set plus hardware from the Stihl dealer.
They are many chainsaws out there and they are all great then this
Yes, there are many. Not only many models, but many brands, and so many made for various different applications. It’s a big world.
looking for the ms 362 r dogs- they are black and would look great on a ms 261 c. any links anyone? google fu has failed me.
Bailey’s carries the black ones:
www.baileysonline.com/pro-safety-felling-dogs-5-point-for-stihl-ms-361-362-chainsaws-17173.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIupmv5YH27AIVxkXVCh0CHgXAEAQYASABEgJ7NvD_BwE
Or if you want to check with your local dealer the part numbers are: 1135 664 0501 for the outer and: 1135 664 0500 for the inner. Not sure if Stihl offers OEM black ones though.
They are the same spikes 261 ,362 ,400
So how does the kerf on the bar wear evenly when you swap it only every 3 times? If you are cutting 95% of the time with the bottom of the bar, turn it every sharpening.
I’m not sure I get what you’re saying? I turn the bar over every three sharpenings, so overall each side is used 50% of the time.
What's the part number for that dog set?
I'm looking around to see if I can find my receipt for it, if not I will get with my dealer to get the PN and get back with you!
Ok, so I stopped and had my Stihl dealer get the PN for the full kit for me tonight: 0000 660 0800 includes the set of dogs, plus nuts/bolts to install. I also went ahead and ordered the optional "cover plate" for cutting in heavy snow conditions (helps the saw keep from drawing in excessive snow/moisture when running the carb plate in "winter mode") if you want the PN for that as well, just let me know. Will be doing a vid on it as well when I find the time, though I probably won't actually need it in there any time soon. Been way too cold to do much this last week (-50 wind chill) but not much snow to enjoy.
@@HoosierHomesteaders Thanks!
Can you please add part number?
Part number should be in the description I believe, but it’s 0000 660 0800
That kit you got was exactly the same size as the one you removed. I have the same saw and hit. Could have just left it on
Yeah I figured it was. I ended up using the one I took off on a saw for a friend of mine, the older revisions had a smaller stamped one.
Just order the outside spike from your dealer, it comes with the two bolts
What bar is that?? 20 inchb
20”. Not positive on the part number without looking, but planning to bump up to a 25” lightweight sometime soon.
@@HoosierHomesteaders Sure way to burn up your little fifty.
@@timberray9572 obviously I would be switching to a full skip chain to accommodate the longer bar. It wouldn't pull with a 25" buried with a standard chisel, but they handle a skip chain at 25" just fine. Worst case scenario it needs a clutch replaced, but I've seen them run the longer bar for years without issue.
Was this your first rodeo?
Never been in a rodeo bud, not much of a rider.
Do the dew used to drink it alot now I just smoke marijuana before and when i do tree work
Seems like they'd go together pretty well though, no?
Huge ass joke. 261 ain’t the best chainsaw
Somebody just discovered click bait thumbnail titling…
261c 💩
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