Wish my dad could have taught me the do’s and don’ts of working with a chainsaw. You are a good father Cody, and it appears you have a wonderful son!! God bless both of you!
Jack you have a golden Dad how the teachings and given you the lesson to do a proper work likes safe your machine and al the time be safe You are in a professional hands and mind Me as a old man have learned out of this lessons and will be use it all time Thanks Dad fore this golden ouer to oppen also my mind and oppen my eyes to look all the time the tension height levels cross cut thanks From JP Hoodymaster Off South Africa 🇿🇦 I will fullow your advise
@@killingoldgrowthsince yes the name is native to canada.. We know they are loggers now .. back then in the old saying ( Lets Jack the forest for some lumber) . The Lumberjack would do everything from tree to plank with almost all the tools being hand tools. have some respect for the old timers brother ..
Damn dad! There is a part of me that hates seeing videos like this because my dad decided to not be a part of my life, but the biggest part loves seeing them because it shows me the importance of a being a father to shape your children while life is steadily turning the mould.
Great lesson. Thanks for sharing that moment. As a dad, whose kid's are grown, seeing this does my heart good. To all you Dads out there, take the time to be with and teach your kids. You won't regret doing so. I wish I had. I spent too much time away, between working a civilian job and the Army. God bless
@@cbrackin531 indeed, top-notch teaching from Old School to New School. We need more of the same at many levels with this new generation of children who will become adults soon. Spot-on and thumbs up!
Really appreciate how you asked your young apprentice "Do you understand" and looked right at him. this interaction is somthing that lives with me today from any of my mentors.
I appreciate the patience you have with your boy , lord willing all fathers could display this quality with their children. Good job with the those logs and equipment jack, you're a fine young man.
Good to see a father and son working together. However, I'd had to have a talk with the boy about his know it all attitude. That'll get someone hurt quicker than anything!
A blessing to see a father challenge and teach his son, and yet still allow him to be himself and not feel put down. God bless and keep this family. They're teaching a lot more than just cutting techniques
4:35 "So we were in tension on the top, right?" I don't think so. Rather, it appears that the log was being cut in an area that was supported between two points, causing it to be in compression--meaning the forces were going to tend to close the cut the deeper it went. Had the top really been in tension, stretching fibers, the cut would have tended to open--fibers pulling away from each other as they were freed--as the cut deepened. If the log was in fact suspended between two supports, the top would be in compression and the bottom in tension before cutting. A notch cut on top would tend to close as the log sagged toward the ground, and a release cut up from the bottom would tend to open. Similar to the forces in felling the tree in the first place. Of course it is easy to mis-guess where compression and tension are in situations where multiple forces are present because it cannot always be determined beforehand which ones dominate. Happy to see a son learning respect, on so many levels. Thank you.
I'm a noob but surely the reason the cut closed is because the end of the tree touched the ground and so went from tension to compression. A simple notch on top to begin with and then a step cut from underneath would have been best
Wonderful clinic from a knowledgeable man , Patient man , and evident good dad , with a capable son no less Dang it I'm 50 , and I learnt stuff here today 😁👍
Was raised by my grandparents and papaw just passed 2 weeks ago. Watching this reminds me so much of when I was younger and papaw was teaching me lawn-care. You have that awesome teaching strategy of asking questions, and making him use his critical thinking.
Hey, Thank You for the lesson. I've always cut directly under the upper cut...and of course had problems. You both taught me something new that I'll try. Thanks to the both of you for posting this video. It is much appreciated. You see...you CAN teach an old dog a new trick !!
Thank you for posting this. I am just a infrequent home user of chainsaws and same with my older family members who I learned from only by watching. My techniques may be inexperienced but one thing I always try to do is treat a chainsaw with respect, like a firearm, and realize it can shred me up instantly if I am to careless in operations. I try to stop anytime I start getting tired as that's when I might get lazy, or slip on something and injure myself. Watching your instructional videos are really helpful and you are great at explaining things to your audience and I know I feel more confident and safer thanks to you and your channel.
My granda always waits for me to mess up and goes “haha! This is what you do here... There, that’s how you do it. Nobody can (Insert task here) better than me.” Not the best teacher, but lucky for him I’m a visual learner.
Very impressive the way you worked with the young man, leading him through the whole process. When I got trained by my father, if there was something I didn't understand he would raise his voice and treat me like I was stupid. I'm 72, and I can still remember the way that all went down and the way I felt. Your son will remember too, but in a positive light. You win the Great Dad award!
Thirty six years old... appears to have had fast growth for the first twenty or so, then got into competition. I like to undercut those conditions first, just a couple or three inches, then come out and cut down. Congrats to both of you...quality time together, teaching/learning how to do a job correctly...good job!
I love this video, great to see a father teaching his son 'life skills'. More importantly though...a father and son sharing and enjoying time together. Something I miss very much not having my father around anymore. Enjoy these moments, they wont last forever. Close to the heart for me as I'm also an Area Manager for Oregon and UK Product and Technical Specialist
Schools are designed to separate children from church, family tradition and to indoctrinate them into the corporate world home schooling is much better but a good old work ethics they don't teach that in school awesome job teaching the boy something that he will keep and use long after your gone check if he stays off the streets and works his life away he will probably feel an obligation to teach his son how to work as well so in my opinion he has the boy right where he needs to be learning about work
school teachers can suck too, damaging children for the rest of their lives. I believe there is no good method to change people's minds who are hurting others. Most people assuming power over others can't be convinced they are hurting others, even when it should be obvious.
Great parenting, reminded me of going to work with my dad in the woods logging when I was 13. You have taught and instilled a lot more than just a log bucking lesson on your son today. Great video!
Dad of the year award definitely goes to you good sir, and you have a wonderful son that every father would be proud of. Thank you for the great content!
Ad a 59 year old that's new to using a chainsaw, I appreciate your patient and concise instructions. The explanations concerning tension, compression and what to do if you get in a bind were really helpful. Thank you
My Dad is closing on 80. There was a poplar widow-maker leaning towards a trailer that I couldn’t see falling anywhere but on that trailer. Dad made two cuts and got me to hammer in a wedge before making the third cut. The tree pirouetted on the fiber left connected to the stump and fell about 45 degrees away from its lean. It fell within inches of where he said he would fall it.
I had my first child when I was 62 years old & retired! It was the best thing that has ever happened in my life. I only wish I had more children at a younger age but at least I was blessed to now know what it's about. It defines the true meaning of "unconditional love". This is a great example of Dad having great patience & teaching his son lifelong knowledge he will pass along to his children. Awesome.
You Sir did an awesome job instructing your Son in the proper way to safely run his Saw. You were calm, but got your point across without making him feel intimidated or shamed. You made him feel accomplished. Your son learned a lot that day and so did I. I applaud you for having taken the time to work with him and not be in such a rush and short tempered that he would not have an interest. Thank you for teaching me the under cut trick. Have many safe days In the woods!
Jack is really progressing with his chainsaw skills, he is developing an eye for the safety aspect of running a saw. Good job both of you. Your patience in teaching him and his willingness to listen, watch, and learn, I would safely bet makes both of you very proud. Jack is growing into a fine young man.
I freaking love this never seen a younger buck be taught the ropes in such a way thats amazing. Kids gonna be a cuttin fool by time hes out of high-school
This is how good, respectful, and well educated kids are raised and how you keep them out of any trouble. Unfortunately alot of kids don't have a good father figure in their life and they end up shop lifting and burglarizing and using and dealing drugs. This kid is one of the fortunate ones who will keep integrity alive amongst his generation 👏
This warms my soul. There is something in our DNA that thirsts for being out with trees & nature. I think every lad should have this experience in life!
After watching your video I managed to clear 4 fallen trees over a track, using the "under buck" method you taught on here. Works a treat and very safe. Thanks very much both of you for explaining and demonstrating it so well.
Is it tension or compression? Compression. Is it? Come look from this side. So what is it? Guess it's tension then. Bar jams What got ya? Compression. Like i said the first time!!!
He was correct. The top side was tension, the bottom was compression. You can’t have one without the other. You are acting on one force at a time. I personally would have cut 20-30% of the tension side first then switched to finish on the compression side. However, there are many methods, and none of them are wrong as long as the saw isn’t damaged, and the log is cut to the correct length.
Desert Fresh if you look closely at 4:12, the log rises overall during the cut, that is tension. If you look when he makes the final cut at 7:33, one side rises and one side falls. It was under tension to start, but when he made the cut, the result was still a falling log. Tension was correct.
Desert Fresh the reason it pinched is because the one side rolled a bit, and his cut wasn’t straight, so it closed up the gap. A peavy would have been useful to unpinch the saw.
57 years old?. I cut a fir tree down here in Felton. Santa Cruz County California and it was just over 110 years old but what was surprising is way back in the rings at 1908 there is clearly a false winter ring which signifies major weather change mid year from the asteroid that blew up over russia known as the tunguska event.
Had some bad weather in the Northeast last week and a huge tree came down in my backyard. Having never used a chainsaw, I watched your video and felt confident enough to tackle the job! Thank you!
Hey Cody, A lot of times, in a situation like that, I will make a cut up from the bottom about 3 or 4 inches first and then come down from the top and keep the saw kind of level as you cut down to the other cut. Works great for me.
Shawn Armstrong If you're cutting for firewood you're much less likely going to come across the buck in your life. Not everyone has cut trees down for making lumber.
Wow I’m 25 and just started tree work a couple months ago and I really enjoy the career field. Wish I was this young learning about it this whole time. Never even started a chain saw before those two months
Love most all of your videos especially this one, because it really hits home. Bucking timber for right of way was my second job out of high school. Really kool to see you teaching your son those techniques I had to learn the hard way. Not to down talk my teacher of my felling and bucking trainer by any means, seeing how he is still a mentor of mine. In fact he was more like a father to me in many aspects of life than my own father. My mentor and first work partner was also my wrestling coach and good friend. The difference between the teaching I see in your video is your patience. Your and awesome father!!!!!, wish I had all that advice your feeding your son prier to starting a job in the real world.
Any object in suspension,in other words supported from two points, is in both in tension AND in compression. The top is in compression while the bottom is in tension. When it's supported at only one point, the tension is at the top while the bottom is in compression. What he's telling his kid is exactly opposite to indisputable physics. The reason why his chainsaw was pinched was due to the compression at the top. The compressive forces pinched his saw. If the top of the log was in tension, it is physically unable to pinch his saw. Hope this helps.
His saw didn't pinch because of compression at the top. There wasn't compression at the top there was tension, they read the bind correctly. His saw pinched because as the wood weakened the log began to rotate away from him causing the far side of the log to pinch his bar. You can see as the cut progressed that the log began to open up on top, nothing that is under compression would begin to open like that, it would close 100% every time. There are a lot more forces at play when cutting trees then just top and bottom tension.
I have a couple things I’d like to comment on... First, I’ve spent the majority of my life in the desert of southeastern New Mexico, so I’ve never owned, nor needed to own a chainsaw. I have no knowledge of technique, safety, etc... your videos are VERY helpful to me! I learn so much from you, and to be honest, some of your tips and techniques have kept me safe, literally saving both life and limb!! Second, I think it’s awesome you take the time and have the patience to work with your son. It reminds me of spending time with my dad. Getting my hands dirty, doing work with my dad are some of my most cherished memories with him. When your son’s face lights up when he does a good job and earns your praise, you can see he loves working with and spending time with you. I can see you’re a fantastic dad and are raising a big hearted, hard working young man. It’s a pleasure watching your videos. Keep up the awesome work!
I've said this on other videos but it's great to see father and son together doing honest to God actual work. Thanks Cody America needs more men like the two of you. Congrats to Jack also man u have grown through the years keep it up guys
45 y/o Compression =Wedge needed (Saw will likely bind as cut deepens) Tension = No wedge need usually! (log is coming upward as cut deepens) Another visual aid A soldier standing at attention has hand at his forehead. That's where the log could potentially go.
Hey mechanical engineer here: i think you have a little misunderstanding of compression and tension. as you said a log that is suspended on one side will be in tension ontop and compression at the bottom BUT as you cut into the log the bottom of the cut is still in tension and the bottom of the log is still in compression! if the log is free and the whole way off the ground on the non suspended side the cut should just widen up as the structural integrity of the rest of the log where you cut breaks down and the saw should not get stuck all the way through. i'm not entirely sure what happened there but from what i got from the video the log moved sidewards and and thus camped the saw. sry for my bad english (from germany) but wanted to clear this up :)
I agree that they seem have a misunderstanding of how to evaluate compression & tension. Their analysis is incorrect, and it was the predictable cause of the stuck bar. And...it doesn't take a mechanical engineer to cut up logs. without problems. Better training than provided in the video would have helped a lot.
nope boys I disagree with you both!!! Darn good presentation and a good job of teaching! What you are saying about tension and compression in the log is exactly right and is exactly what wranglestar was talking about. There was no failure here in comprehension of the tension or compression in the log as he was making his case. What Jack did was get the forward end of his bar just a little lower for a split second than the back and got part of his chain and bar into the compression zone! Good technique wranglestar! It can take years to pick that one up by experience!!!!
+pdqdl I think he intentionally let his son get the saw stuck in order to #1 see what could happen in that situation and #2 show him how to correct it.
A beam in bending will have one side in tension and the other in compression but which side is which depnds on the direction of the bend be it like a bridge or a see-saw. I think what is going on here isn't a misunderstanding of the mechanics, just an industry specific use of vocabulary. It doesn't seem like these loggers need us enginerings teaching them a lesson.
If the top was in tension, which I believe it was, then the bottom was in compression, and these forces moved downward as the cut got deeper, (the top of the "uncut" part of the log always coming into tension). As Jack cut into the top, then the top of the kerf should have become wider as the saw went into the log. Why did his saw get jammed? I believe it had to do with his crooked cut and the limb he pointed out earlier. At 4:16, you can see the section of the log to our left begin to roll toward the camera ever so slightly. At 4:20 the saw is jammed. It is this torsion combined with the crooked cut that brought the two sections of the log back together and sandwiched the bar. All that aside, Jack is learning all kinds of positive lessons because of his father! This is about more than just chainsaws and trees, it is about thinking, analyzing, communicating, patience, and well, we could go on and on. It is great to watch!
Maybe the tree should be turned into a cool looking study desk for Jack ? Maybe including a nice chair. That way the tree can continue to support Jack with lessons to learn ;)
I was just teaching a new employee to cut with a chainsaw and came home to look for a video to send him as a follow up. This was perfect. I learned quite a bit from this video myself. As a child I had nobody to teach me anything I needed to know as an adult, so I taught myself by listening well to other people's' knowledge, and trial and error. From automobiles to computers. I'm so glad we now have this ability to learn almost anything from people far away that we'll never meet face to face. This was a perfect video!
Wish my dad could have taught me the do’s and don’ts of working with a chainsaw. You are a good father Cody, and it appears you have a wonderful son!! God bless both of you!
Amen
Jack you have a golden Dad how the teachings and given you the lesson to do a proper work likes safe your machine and al the time be safe
You are in a professional hands and mind
Me as a old man have learned out of this lessons and will be use it all time
Thanks Dad fore this golden ouer to oppen also my mind and oppen my eyes to look all the time the tension height levels cross cut thanks
From JP Hoodymaster
Off South Africa 🇿🇦
I will fullow your advise
@@Sartre_Existentialist so did I
Kid will grow up to be a great logger and SAFE.
Dammmmmm for real
I am not a lumberjack but I was impressed with the calm and logical instruction. You Sir are a fine mentor.
No such thing as a Lumberack.
@@killingoldgrowthsince yes the name is native to canada.. We know they are loggers now .. back then in the old saying ( Lets Jack the forest for some lumber) . The Lumberjack would do everything from tree to plank with almost all the tools being hand tools. have some respect for the old timers brother ..
@@Gabriel-x2y we're Loggers, no Lumberacks here. That was then this is now...
@@killingoldgrowthsince yes this is what i said..
@@Gabriel-x2y like i said earlier, no such this as Lumberacks. There like Unicorns.
There is no better feeling in the world than when your Dad tells you you did a good job.
oh yea 😎
Hell yea! I feel special when my dad say it !
That is so true
Couldn’t agree with you more. And particularly when you take on the job that your father dead.
hell yes
Damn dad! There is a part of me that hates seeing videos like this because my dad decided to not be a part of my life, but the biggest part loves seeing them because it shows me the importance of a being a father to shape your children while life is steadily turning the mould.
I like how you explain thought process, instead of just saying “do this”.
I came for the saw tutorial, stayed for the parenting!
It was so heartwarming watching them interact.
Never more true words!
Teaching them young. 👍
You are so right!
Awesome to see a kid outside actually working with his pops instead of being inside playing video games.
Great lesson.
Thanks for sharing that moment. As a dad, whose kid's are grown, seeing this does my heart good.
To all you Dads out there, take the time to be with and teach your kids. You won't regret doing so.
I wish I had. I spent too much time away, between working a civilian job and the Army.
God bless
Jack’s face on the under buck when it worked. Worth a million bucks. Pure joy and excitement. I think he likes it!
yea. looking forward to watching jack become a fine young man, keep the teaching videos coming. good work jack you got one hell of a teacher.
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@@cbrackin531 indeed, top-notch teaching from Old School to New School. We need more of the same at many levels with this new generation of children who will become adults soon. Spot-on and thumbs up!
Really appreciate how you asked your young apprentice "Do you understand" and looked right at him. this interaction is somthing that lives with me today from any of my mentors.
I appreciate the patience you have with your boy , lord willing all fathers could display this quality with their children. Good job with the those logs and equipment jack, you're a fine young man.
its good to see a dad teaching his son life skills
A dad's few achievements is to relenquish the ugly fact that "all want to take" and it's best to "stay strong in the theAtre", that's the best.
The "Word",, not the attack like UA-cam said.
Stay strong in the "Attacks"!! Not the UA-cam "Atwar"e? Hold Fast Christian
Good to see a father and son working together. However, I'd had to have a talk with the boy about his know it all attitude. That'll get someone hurt quicker than anything!
@@te171te oh shut up. I bet ur a demoncrats
This isn’t about tree cutting... this a workshop on how to be an awesome DAD.
10/10 teaching skills. Love the attitude and way you drove the boys mind to figure things out with a little help. Keep it up.
You are such a good teacher, you havent gotten fed up, or taken over. He did so good with learning too
A blessing to see a father challenge and teach his son, and yet still allow him to be himself and not feel put down. God bless and keep this family. They're teaching a lot more than just cutting techniques
I love watching you teach Jack. I had to teach myself a lot of this stuff so it's great to relearn all these things.
Evan Mohn Me too. I wish i had someone to teach me this stuff when i was his age
Very smart kid, and I’m glad his daddy is teaching him the safety of cutting trees. I love seeing this, a son and his dad bonding.
4:35 "So we were in tension on the top, right?"
I don't think so. Rather, it appears that the log was being cut in an area that was supported between two points, causing it to be in compression--meaning the forces were going to tend to close the cut the deeper it went.
Had the top really been in tension, stretching fibers, the cut would have tended to open--fibers pulling away from each other as they were freed--as the cut deepened.
If the log was in fact suspended between two supports, the top would be in compression and the bottom in tension before cutting. A notch cut on top would tend to close as the log sagged toward the ground, and a release cut up from the bottom would tend to open. Similar to the forces in felling the tree in the first place.
Of course it is easy to mis-guess where compression and tension are in situations where multiple forces are present because it cannot always be determined beforehand which ones dominate.
Happy to see a son learning respect, on so many levels. Thank you.
This is the correct answer.
You couldn’t be more correct! The necessity for the under cut solely proves your point. 👌
You are correct sir. I am a stress analyst by training and spent many years in the profession. Top in compression , bottom in tension.
I'm a noob but surely the reason the cut closed is because the end of the tree touched the ground and so went from tension to compression. A simple notch on top to begin with and then a step cut from underneath would have been best
Wonderful clinic from a knowledgeable man , Patient man , and evident good dad , with a capable son no less
Dang it I'm 50 , and I learnt stuff here today 😁👍
Pay attention youngsters... This is how to be a dad.... Prepare the child for the path... Not the path for the child...
I agree 100 percent
I love the technique of teaching of asking questions, Then teaching afterwards. And a true discussion without frustration.
That's how to leave your kid with self esteem and a sense of accomplishment!
I absolutely love the way you take advantage of teachable moments like that sir. I applaud you.
Was raised by my grandparents and papaw just passed 2 weeks ago. Watching this reminds me so much of when I was younger and papaw was teaching me lawn-care. You have that awesome teaching strategy of asking questions, and making him use his critical thinking.
This guy is an awesome dad and teacher.
Hey, Thank You for the lesson. I've always cut directly under the upper cut...and of course had problems. You both taught me something new that I'll try. Thanks to the both of you for posting this video. It is much appreciated. You see...you CAN teach an old dog a new trick !!
Thank you for posting this. I am just a infrequent home user of chainsaws and same with my older family members who I learned from only by watching. My techniques may be inexperienced but one thing I always try to do is treat a chainsaw with respect, like a firearm, and realize it can shred me up instantly if I am to careless in operations. I try to stop anytime I start getting tired as that's when I might get lazy, or slip on something and injure myself. Watching your instructional videos are really helpful and you are great at explaining things to your audience and I know I feel more confident and safer thanks to you and your channel.
This is great. My grandfather would have just let me mess up, then say "well, what you SHOULD have done was...."
Daniel Butcher Yep same for me with my dad. "You should have" "Why didn't you" "If I were you,I would have" 'Next time you ought to..."
My granda always waits for me to mess up and goes “haha! This is what you do here... There, that’s how you do it. Nobody can (Insert task here) better than me.”
Not the best teacher, but lucky for him I’m a visual learner.
Wonderful to see a skillful teacher helping someone learn with patience and kindness. Great job.
Very impressive the way you worked with the young man, leading him through the whole process. When I got trained by my father, if there was something I didn't understand he would raise his voice and treat me like I was stupid. I'm 72, and I can still remember the way that all went down and the way I felt. Your son will remember too, but in a positive light. You win the Great Dad award!
jack is a very bless kid to have dad like you keep up the good work together, god bless you and your family.
Love seeing the younger generation learning essentially life saving safety in timber harvesting great video
Thirty six years old... appears to have had fast growth for the first twenty or so, then got into competition.
I like to undercut those conditions first, just a couple or three inches, then come out and cut down.
Congrats to both of you...quality time together, teaching/learning how to do a job correctly...good job!
Cody, I would say at least 135 yrs old.
The Been Stalk will never get the best of Jack. Thanks to his loving and knowledgeable parents.
I love this video, great to see a father teaching his son 'life skills'. More importantly though...a father and son sharing and enjoying time together. Something I miss very much not having my father around anymore. Enjoy these moments, they wont last forever. Close to the heart for me as I'm also an Area Manager for Oregon and UK Product and Technical Specialist
As a kinda-new sawyer this instruction was perfect for me. Jack you have a good teacher. Learn as much as you can.
a dad teaching something more valuable than anything he will learn in school. Great job for you both. The tree is 51 years old
Schools are designed to separate children from church, family tradition and to indoctrinate them into the corporate world home schooling is much better but a good old work ethics they don't teach that in school awesome job teaching the boy something that he will keep and use long after your gone check if he stays off the streets and works his life away he will probably feel an obligation to teach his son how to work as well so in my opinion he has the boy right where he needs to be learning about work
school teachers can suck too, damaging children for the rest of their lives. I believe there is no good method to change people's minds who are hurting others. Most people assuming power over others can't be convinced they are hurting others, even when it should be obvious.
Lane York amen!
@@lyork8273 No need for doctors, engineers or any profession since you dont believe in schools. In your world there would be no chainsaws or tractors.
about 40 to 45 years old
Great parenting, reminded me of going to work with my dad in the woods logging when I was 13. You have taught and instilled a lot more than just a log bucking lesson on your son today. Great video!
The smile when he was told it was perfectly done - priceless!
Dad of the year award definitely goes to you good sir, and you have a wonderful son that every father would be proud of. Thank you for the great content!
Hello from Australia , love all your videos . Nothing better than a dad teaching his boy the ways of the world .
best dad ever award
I hold that award.
Ol Wranglerstar . He,s got knowledge and hella patience . Taught that young man well
Now show him how many spoons you can make. We will be waiting for the vids
Cody: "Jack, what do you want to make out of this?"
Jack: "A big fire!"
Jack my friend, join the club.
This is my favorite video series thus far Mr. Wranglerstar!
Griffin Benchmark mine too
Ad a 59 year old that's new to using a chainsaw, I appreciate your patient and concise instructions. The explanations concerning tension, compression and what to do if you get in a bind were really helpful. Thank you
My Dad is closing on 80. There was a poplar widow-maker leaning towards a trailer that I couldn’t see falling anywhere but on that trailer. Dad made two cuts and got me to hammer in a wedge before making the third cut. The tree pirouetted on the fiber left connected to the stump and fell about 45 degrees away from its lean. It fell within inches of where he said he would fall it.
This makes me want to have a child. You're being a great father, man.
I had my first child when I was 62 years old & retired! It was the best thing that has ever happened in my life. I only wish I had more children at a younger age but at least I was blessed to now know what it's about. It defines the true meaning of "unconditional love". This is a great example of Dad having great patience & teaching his son lifelong knowledge he will pass along to his children. Awesome.
this log has been Jack Knifed...
I’d love to spend a day with the dad. He’s a excellent teacher.
You Sir did an awesome job instructing your Son in the proper way to safely run his Saw. You were calm, but got your point across without making him feel intimidated or shamed. You made him feel accomplished. Your son learned a lot that day and so did I. I applaud you for having taken the time to work with him and not be in such a rush and short tempered that he would not have an interest. Thank you for teaching me the under cut trick. Have many safe days
In the woods!
Good on you for taking the time to teach!! His smile when he bucked the log says everything. Stay safe! And God bless!!!!
You should make a bed frame for Jack with the wood. All timber framed of course
Cody, can you do a video tour of your homestead?
We have done several tours in past videos,
lol I don’t think he has that much
I recall him saying 50-75 acres in a bible study a while ago.
Wish I would’ve had a dad to teach me things like this.
Jack appreciates your favorable evaluation and praise. He lights up.
You are truly a superb father. Teaching your son from an early age. And he's so intelligent, a pleasure to watch.
Jack is really progressing with his chainsaw skills, he is developing an eye for the safety aspect of running a saw. Good job both of you. Your patience in teaching him and his willingness to listen, watch, and learn, I would safely bet makes both of you very proud. Jack is growing into a fine young man.
Jack will look back on these lessons and thank God for his father!
Lots of us will
Or just tank his father directly?
I freaking love this never seen a younger buck be taught the ropes in such a way thats amazing. Kids gonna be a cuttin fool by time hes out of high-school
This is how good, respectful, and well educated kids are raised and how you keep them out of any trouble. Unfortunately alot of kids don't have a good father figure in their life and they end up shop lifting and burglarizing and using and dealing drugs. This kid is one of the fortunate ones who will keep integrity alive amongst his generation 👏
This warms my soul. There is something in our DNA that thirsts for being out with trees & nature. I think every lad should have this experience in life!
These videos from the two of you have been a delight!
Great editing too! ;]
Thank you Simon,
7:17 gotta love the shout for JOY!
The age of the tree is 78. Jack is doing great. He's a natural.
After watching your video I managed to clear 4 fallen trees over a track, using the "under buck" method you taught on here. Works a treat and very safe. Thanks very much both of you for explaining and demonstrating it so well.
Excellent passing of the torch.
This brings back many memories of me teaching my son who is now home for the holidays on leave from the Army.
Is it tension or compression?
Compression.
Is it? Come look from this side.
So what is it?
Guess it's tension then.
Bar jams
What got ya?
Compression. Like i said the first time!!!
Only time you get one without the other is when theyre still standing.
He was correct. The top side was tension, the bottom was compression. You can’t have one without the other. You are acting on one force at a time. I personally would have cut 20-30% of the tension side first then switched to finish on the compression side. However, there are many methods, and none of them are wrong as long as the saw isn’t damaged, and the log is cut to the correct length.
@@marcmoberg Right, but the top of the log squeezed together, closing up his cut. Compression.
Desert Fresh if you look closely at 4:12, the log rises overall during the cut, that is tension. If you look when he makes the final cut at 7:33, one side rises and one side falls. It was under tension to start, but when he made the cut, the result was still a falling log. Tension was correct.
Desert Fresh the reason it pinched is because the one side rolled a bit, and his cut wasn’t straight, so it closed up the gap. A peavy would have been useful to unpinch the saw.
what a good dad. wish my dad was like that when I was his age. I had to learn the hard way.
Bob ShitDickSam I can tell because of your username
I’m still learning.
57 years old?. I cut a fir tree down here in Felton. Santa Cruz County California and it was just over 110 years old but what was surprising is way back in the rings at 1908 there is clearly a false winter ring which signifies major weather change mid year from the asteroid that blew up over russia known as the tunguska event.
That's kinda interesting u got any pics?
Very interesting
Why diggy cut it fir
This gave me tears to see such a great father son relationship. Well done pops 👏
Had some bad weather in the Northeast last week and a huge tree came down in my backyard. Having never used a chainsaw, I watched your video and felt confident enough to tackle the job! Thank you!
I have to say I learned so much stuff from my father. There was more yelling, but he did alright.
Hahahaha right!!!!
Hey Cody, A lot of times, in a situation like that, I will make a cut up from the bottom about 3 or 4 inches first and then come down from the top and keep the saw kind of level as you cut down to the other cut. Works great for me.
I learned a similar method in pruning mature trees for landscaping purposes.
You wood think that would be common sense and I don't even own a chainsaw smh
It was probably intentional to teach Jack the new technique(s).
Yet, that exact kind of attitude is what gets people like you killed.
Rick Preston Yep that works good also Mr. Preston
Been cutting with a chainsaw for 30+ years and learned something new at 12:00. (under buck)
Bradley Buyer really? Ive been sawing for 2 years and that was one of the first tricks i learned.
Shawn Armstrong If you're cutting for firewood you're much less likely going to come across the buck in your life. Not everyone has cut trees down for making lumber.
Wow i used under buck the first time i ever ran a saw
Glorywhole whoaa hoo ho! Mr knowitall here catches on super fast
damn took u 30 some years.
The best teacher is not the one that knows it all,, is the one that can teach it so simple that people can understand it!!! God bless you sir!!!
Wow I’m 25 and just started tree work a couple months ago and I really enjoy the career field. Wish I was this young learning about it this whole time. Never even started a chain saw before those two months
Love most all of your videos especially this one, because it really hits home. Bucking timber for right of way was my second job out of high school. Really kool to see you teaching your son those techniques I had to learn the hard way. Not to down talk my teacher of my felling and bucking trainer by any means, seeing how he is still a mentor of mine. In fact he was more like a father to me in many aspects of life than my own father. My mentor and first work partner was also my wrestling coach and good friend. The difference between the teaching I see in your video is your patience. Your and awesome father!!!!!, wish I had all that advice your feeding your son prier to starting a job in the real world.
I have the urge to say “thanks dad”. What a great video
thanks Jack for making wood cutting great again. It's humbling to see you teach the Next Generation your Mastery of your craft.
One of the best videos on bucking I've seen, even better as it was a great dad / son team. Thank you for your video!
What an excellent teacher this guy is! Patience with a wealth of knowledge.
Teaching your kid right.
Neat trick, wish someone taught me that when I was a kid!
Hey do you have a video about your tractor and all the implements you use?
I must have missed something. Why did the cut not start at the bottom to begin with?
aronph1 - exactly. Cut compression first, tension last.
aronph1 pressure relief cut comes first
I would have under bucked it...
Yep. But, this worked too.
He is trying to teach. Often, letting someone make decisions and fail on their own teaches them more than correcting them before they make a mistake.
What a great teacher and what a good dad!!
Great work, great instructions. Can't guess the age but thank you for taking the time to make this video.
If only all our boys were like this kid, with a good father and mentor. We would be an untouchable country. Good job kid
Any object in suspension,in other words supported from two points, is in both in tension AND in compression. The top is in compression while the bottom is in tension. When it's supported at only one point, the tension is at the top while the bottom is in compression. What he's telling his kid is exactly opposite to indisputable physics. The reason why his chainsaw was pinched was due to the compression at the top. The compressive forces pinched his saw. If the top of the log was in tension, it is physically unable to pinch his saw. Hope this helps.
Thats why he put wedges in the top in the next vid . He got a lot of guff over that one
His saw didn't pinch because of compression at the top. There wasn't compression at the top there was tension, they read the bind correctly. His saw pinched because as the wood weakened the log began to rotate away from him causing the far side of the log to pinch his bar. You can see as the cut progressed that the log began to open up on top, nothing that is under compression would begin to open like that, it would close 100% every time. There are a lot more forces at play when cutting trees then just top and bottom tension.
I am the child in this story. I’m learning with him 😂
I have a couple things I’d like to comment on... First, I’ve spent the majority of my life in the desert of southeastern New Mexico, so I’ve never owned, nor needed to own a chainsaw. I have no knowledge of technique, safety, etc... your videos are VERY helpful to me! I learn so much from you, and to be honest, some of your tips and techniques have kept me safe, literally saving both life and limb!! Second, I think it’s awesome you take the time and have the patience to work with your son. It reminds me of spending time with my dad. Getting my hands dirty, doing work with my dad are some of my most cherished memories with him. When your son’s face lights up when he does a good job and earns your praise, you can see he loves working with and spending time with you. I can see you’re a fantastic dad and are raising a big hearted, hard working young man. It’s a pleasure watching your videos. Keep up the awesome work!
I've said this on other videos but it's great to see father and son together doing honest to God actual work. Thanks Cody America needs more men like the two of you. Congrats to Jack also man u have grown through the years keep it up guys
45 y/o
Compression =Wedge needed (Saw will likely bind as cut deepens)
Tension = No wedge need usually! (log is coming upward as cut deepens) Another visual aid A soldier standing at attention has hand at his forehead. That's where the log could potentially go.
Could cut the compression about 1/3 of the log down, then do a undercut the rest of the way up
I think you and I are on the same page; viewing things from the top whereas he’s viewing things from the bottom.
So, he’s right and so are we.
Allowing the kid to fail by pinching the saw, was a good lesson.
This is how life should be learning off your parents as well as the education system. Great stuff.
This has to be the best you tube video I have viewed. A master teacher teaching us all.
I was always taught cut the compression cut before the tension cut. C comes before T in the alphabet so cut the compression first then the tension
Hey mechanical engineer here: i think you have a little misunderstanding of compression and tension. as you said a log that is suspended on one side will be in tension ontop and compression at the bottom BUT as you cut into the log the bottom of the cut is still in tension and the bottom of the log is still in compression! if the log is free and the whole way off the ground on the non suspended side the cut should just widen up as the structural integrity of the rest of the log where you cut breaks down and the saw should not get stuck all the way through. i'm not entirely sure what happened there but from what i got from the video the log moved sidewards and and thus camped the saw. sry for my bad english (from germany) but wanted to clear this up :)
I agree that they seem have a misunderstanding of how to evaluate compression & tension. Their analysis is incorrect, and it was the predictable cause of the stuck bar. And...it doesn't take a mechanical engineer to cut up logs. without problems. Better training than provided in the video would have helped a lot.
nope boys I disagree with you both!!! Darn good presentation and a good job of teaching! What you are saying about tension and compression in the log is exactly right and is exactly what wranglestar was talking about. There was no failure here in comprehension of the tension or compression in the log as he was making his case. What Jack did was get the forward end of his bar just a little lower for a split second than the back and got part of his chain and bar into the compression zone! Good technique wranglestar! It can take years to pick that one up by experience!!!!
+pdqdl I think he intentionally let his son get the saw stuck in order to #1 see what could happen in that situation and #2 show him how to correct it.
A beam in bending will have one side in tension and the other in compression but which side is which depnds on the direction of the bend be it like a bridge or a see-saw. I think what is going on here isn't a misunderstanding of the mechanics, just an industry specific use of vocabulary. It doesn't seem like these loggers need us enginerings teaching them a lesson.
If the top was in tension, which I believe it was, then the bottom was in compression, and these forces moved downward as the cut got deeper, (the top of the "uncut" part of the log always coming into tension). As Jack cut into the top, then the top of the kerf should have become wider as the saw went into the log. Why did his saw get jammed? I believe it had to do with his crooked cut and the limb he pointed out earlier. At 4:16, you can see the section of the log to our left begin to roll toward the camera ever so slightly. At 4:20 the saw is jammed. It is this torsion combined with the crooked cut that brought the two sections of the log back together and sandwiched the bar. All that aside, Jack is learning all kinds of positive lessons because of his father! This is about more than just chainsaws and trees, it is about thinking, analyzing, communicating, patience, and well, we could go on and on. It is great to watch!
You know that wedge is good if it doesn’t come out of your pocket
It was wedged in there 🤣
Maybe the tree should be turned into a cool looking study desk for Jack ? Maybe including a nice chair. That way the tree can continue to support Jack with lessons to learn ;)
I was just teaching a new employee to cut with a chainsaw and came home to look for a video to send him as a follow up. This was perfect. I learned quite a bit from this video myself. As a child I had nobody to teach me anything I needed to know as an adult, so I taught myself by listening well to other people's' knowledge, and trial and error. From automobiles to computers.
I'm so glad we now have this ability to learn almost anything from people far away that we'll never meet face to face. This was a perfect video!
Dad of the year here! I'm a 53 year old woman taking down some trees in my property and pinching has been frustrating!! I learned a lot!