Console Wars - Toy Story - Super Nintendo vs Sega Genesis
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- Опубліковано 19 тра 2015
- Our heroes decide to determine which console had the best Toy Story game. Super Nintendo or Sega Genesis? Find out in the latest episode of Console Wars!
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The Genesis version isn't as colorful as the SNES version (and, by extension, the movie), but it's a good deal more atmospheric. The "Revenge of the Toys" section really benefits from the more muted colors--it feels like Woody's world has just gotten very dark.
+Nicholas Tosoni Seems like the whole game is very dark, which although it doesn't look bad, isn't necessarily intentional.
Fun fact us that the big pictures in the game actually have more then 64 colours up to 100+ apparently that's some incredible programming.
@Yeah Right I'll do you one better. Fun fact, you just responded to a comment commenting on a 6 year old comment.
@Yeah Right Fun Fact: And? Who cares? This is a thread on a video discussing an game over 20 years old. Now do you see how little it matters?
@@yeahright5227 Fun fact: No one cares LOL!
Don Rickles' death brought me back here.
R.I.P. Don Rickles (1926-2017).
"AND EVERYBODY IS SUCKING SAND!"
Who's Don Rickles?
@@frenchtoast4365 The voice of Mr. Potato Head.
He died?!
Yeah he died :’(
The founder of Travellers' Tales made a UA-cam account where he goes deep into their programming techniques and shows never before seen prototype and beta footages from their games. He also explained how they accomplished to make Toy Story look and sound like this on the Mega Drive (sorry, Genesis). It's very impressive. His channel is called GameHut, if you are interested.
He has a channel called 'coding secrets' too.
A pretty obvious win for Mega Drive, this version is just more complete. Great video guys.
Thanks!
liked the Genesis better
@@erainmartinez8175 Same here! 👍
@@pferreira1983 How About The Jungle Book?
@@erainmartinez8175 I don't know enough about the SNES version to compare but in most cases when it comes to Disney games the MD version is the superior version.
Oh Thank God. Only two good things happened today
1. Spending time with my soon to be wife
2. another episode of Console Wars
@@tf1090c yep we'll be married for 7 years this October
I can't wait to see Instrument Story.
Technically the SNES version of Toy Story DID have the theme song, except that it was unused.
They probably didn't count it, as the only way to hear it in-game is to use cheat devices or by other means of hacking.
Yea I was gonna say the same thing. Their argument that the sound is better on Sega is just flat out false. Its more of a presentation issue that they had with the song not being there. Not the quality of sound.
The title screen music in the sega version is actually really impresive. The developers manage to make 4 sound samples play at the same time without the quality of them being too compromised.
Genesis version is without a doubt better. In my opinion, they really botched up the SNES port. Which is why you're clearly using the invincibility cheat for it. ;)
+Treyworld Pretty much. lol.
+Treyworld I beat the Snes version multiple times in the past without cheats.
I grew up with the Genesis version. I wish it had more color like the SNES version, but the music, tight gameplay and the overall fun made it super worth playing again
It helps that you get more screen on Genesis. You can see things coming a touch sooner to help react in time. I'm curious to try snes now to see if it's really that much different. I bet it's still fun. Looks like Genesis but a bit slower and a few less things.
Maybe I'll beat Genesis and then go to Snes for the ultimate challenge. Lol
Straight up. The music is also superior on the SEGA, it sounds so clunky and cheap on the SNES.
I would like to see these two review the SNES and Genesis versions of Maximum Carnage.
They did you got your wish
SNES version stomps
In maximum Carnage snes version have more details and more dark atmosphere.
Possibly the most graphically impressive Sega genesis game with the most variety! A masterpiece, Disney and Pixar on Sega nothing beats it
Another awesome episode of one of my favourite 3D films. Looking forward to the next :)
You got a friend in me is in the SNES game, albeit unused.
Can't wait for the Frogs and Komodo review. It will be a fight to remember
no matter what version you play, Nightmare Buzz is still scary as hell
You guys have improved a lot! The last couple of episodes are awesome. Keep up the good work!
1:43 I like how they used the poster from the brazilian dub of the film.
omg i cant believe this is happening :'D im so happy you guys did this!
Its obvious that the developers spent more time on the Genesis version. Why did they do that? Anyway, good video. Keep it up. All three of you were awesome.
***** That's true.
+flavio gjoni
The SNES version wasn't rushed, it just suffers from various SNES issues such as limited resolution (256x224 pixels vs 320x224 for Genesis) or the fact that data on Genesis take less space (music in particular) meaning that, for same ROM sizes, Genesis games can have more stuff (more levels, more music, etc.).
See also Earthworm Jim or Mickey Mania for similar cases.
+Parallax Craze You have no idea about the development of the game so you're arguing off of some things you wrote down on the back of a napkin. I'm not surprised if Genesis' simplistic jingles take up less space.
+Baigandine L
Most if not all games that were initially developed for the Genesis and then ported to SNES ended being inferior: Earthworm Jim, Mickey Mania, Cool Spot or here Toy Story. I'm arguing based on what I know about the technical differences between the two hardwares which these comparison videos demonstrate: importance of better CPU, importance of higher resolution, etc.
And nothing "simplistic" about FM sound, just not the same *kind* of sound and if you don't like it that's fine because tastes are a thing. If SNES music takes more space it's solely due to the fact that it's all samples-based but the sample quality is often average since SNES doesn't have lot of RAM (samples consume lot of that) and the fact that samples take more space also means that, for equal ROMs sizes, the sound data will occupy more storage which can lead to lacking content as it happens here with Toy Story whose SNES version lacks some music and voices.
Parallax Craze There are numerous examples of superior SNES versions, whether overall, or having better animations than the Sega counterpart. You are wearing rose-tinted goggles. Anyone who says the SNES is "lacking" audio-wise is clearly biased. All Genesis music sounds the same, and most of it sounds like garbage. There is nothing "muffled." It sounds perfectly competent. The AWFUL music coming in "clearer" is not superior. If it were so superior they would have modeled it after the Genesis. Because at the end of the day what you're hearing is awful. There are countless Super Nintendo ports that are better. How do you explain that? I'm sure you explain it some "other way". Because you are using circular logic.
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Battletoads & Double Dragon is next, isn't it...I was not that fond of that game really...Still waiting on Maximum Carnage!
You guys are AWESOME! Keep up the good work.
man this really just took me back, i had the game for genesis and have beaten it several times. was a great game, the levels were challenging but so much fun and rewarding after you finally beat them. i still have my cartridge.
Do this:
The Simpsons: Bart's Nightmare!
Interestingly enough, the two Simpsons games on SNES and Genesis; have sorta a ying yang feel.
The SNES version of Bart's Nightmare is better, the Genesis version of Virtual Bart is better.
The opposite version of both games, feature laggy controls, buggy hitboxs, and a severe lack of polish and design. It's clear both teams favored one over the other.
+Ben Walker They may be doing that in an upcoming episode.
@@FlyingDuckMan360 They just recently did!
Even now, decades later, my soul dies a little when a Sega version of a game i played is better than the SNES version. 😥
Great work guys!
I'm loving the show!
Suggestion
Barts Nightmare
Super Nintendo vs Sega Genesis!
anyone else think that this game plays a lot like Earthworm Jim without the gun? A whip attack, using it to grab and swing from hooks, having a section where you have to use the whip to go up while alternating left and right to rise higher up via the hooks. Sounds very similar...
I liked this video, it was very funny and well thought out. Keep up the great work!
Thank you!
You guys should do Super turrican vs Mega turrican!
Love them turrican games! Great channel dudes, very fun watching these long nights!
+karl Andersson Possibly Super turrican 2 vs mega turrican!
This is a pretty solid breakdown and shows how subtle differences in a game can really make a difference. Good work guys.
I was sooo happy when I found that you guys released another cool video :)
you are the best...
Next do Battle Toads VS Double Dragon !
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abdul WARETH Laham Judging from the Next Video Hint... that may be it
Bubba Ace yup ... looks like it
although I think I know who is going to win this time ... but I can't wait for the next video
Yeah I have a hunch who might win this time as well, but knowing these guys... ANYTHING could happen. I'm certain the next video will be awesome no matter what the outcome will be
Spoilers: It is a tie.
Nice comparison. I didn't know that version was better and was under a different impression. I enjoy learning more about these ports!
"The more you know"
you... you spoiled it....
xD
Oh, sorry!! Didn't even think about that. I just edited my comment to make it more ambiguous!
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I just want to say great job on the video guys keep up the good work!
Thanks! We will!
I'm loving these guys, keep it rocking!
johnRhouy Thanks! We will!
Still thinking of this video to this day, I love listening to the Genesis music as in watching the video.
cool, a excellent video. Thanks for the work you put into it! Keep it up :) :)
ive wanted to see this for so long and i never thought to look it up
@10:13 Oh my god that sick burn XD
Another great episode guys. No idea what the next video is based off the clues, but I guess the people in the comment section had to problem figuring it out.
Can't wait until next month's episode.
10:17 Luvit.
4:02 to 4:10 sorry guys, but you have slipped on a banana peel here. You are comparing the "night" stages. The genesis version is darker because is supposed to be night at these 2 occasions (the level where the toys rebel against Woody for push Buzz over the window, its night time in the movie. And the level where you enter Pizza Planet. Its dark inside, just like the movie). Dont blame Sega for not using more bright colors if Nintendo is not doing the atmosphere right
Wow thats true, good point. I do remember those scenes from the movie.
Wow thats true, good point. I do remember those scenes from the movie.
The Genesis version of Pizza Planet definitely looks more like I remembered it in the movie - dimly lit and vaguely blue. The neon pink of the SNES version looks more like the Honker Burger from Doug lol.
I agree, but let's be honest, the Genesis version is still far superior
Not to mention the SNES version lacked the cutscenes. Those alone pumped out more than 500 colors per scene
The vent level with the aliens reminded me of Goldeneye lol great video guys
Console Wars, Console Wars everywhere
Excellent episode, as always. Keep getting better and better.
Suggestion -- Stunt Race FX to Virtual Racer?
Wayward Pony Thanks! We'll look into those games.
Console Wars Hey, dudes. How you doing? Have you ever heard of this video game called Hook on SNES and Genesis? This game based on the movie 1991 Hook with Robin Williams, Dustin Hoffman, and Julia Roberts.
Awesome as always :). I just bought Chuck Rock, and though I think I suggested it before, I'll do it again :).
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You guys are awesome! Keep up the good work! Please do a Console Wars on Vectorman and Donkey Kong Country.
Noah Rentsch People keep telling us to do that. We just might have to.
Console Wars It would be a really challenging compare/contrast.
P.S. I like Vectorman best!
Goob job guys, like always, can't wait for The Lion King review.
Cloud971 Thanks! Its on the list.
Speaking of Toy Story, I got a great idea for an episode: Toy Story 2 for the Nintendo 64 vs. Toy Story 2 for the Sega Dreamcast. You've never done an episode of a Dreamcast version vs. an Nintendo 64 version
easy win for dc
Sega game just feels that the developers spent more time on it
yeah the seem to forgot about finishing the snes version as it looks unfinished and forgot to put more music in cut scenes and outro
I think Travelers tales had a closer relationship with Sega. They did more games for the Genesis including a couple of Sonic games.
In all honesty the Sega Genesis version just feels more polished and complete
In the Sega Genesis version of Toy Story, in the Pizza Planet level called "Food and Drink", the straw from Woody's soda cup's lid is missing. Ever notice that? The straw only shows in the Super NES version. You two also forgot to mention the "Shooting Stars" bonus round from the Genesis version.
Dustin Nunn well a SNES fan
Looks like we got another win, boys! :D
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really good video. i remember playing genesis version years ago with my older cousin. she sadly gave away her genesis but my brother and i have snes and genesis as part of our game collection. also would you ever do videos on vs matches between other consoles? (ex: ps1 vs n64 vs dreamcast) looking forward to watching more vids
Cool episode guys. Now please do
The Pagemaster and MK2
The Pagemaster and MK2
The Pagemaster and MK2
I'd really like to see those
L.S.A spoiler alert: snes version is better xD
+crashicbrosx Shut your yap!
I love sega genesis but to be honest the snes version of mortal kombat II is better
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That sound gag was awesome
Well done. Totally agree! One of the games that made me pick up a Sega Genesis again.
Suggestion: Killer Instinct [SNES] vs Eternal Champions [Genesis]
Fun Fact: In the code of the SNES version, there is a version of You Got A Friend In Me that goes unused. It can be restored in the menu by use of Game Genie.
weird. makes you wonder why didn't they use it. maybe a rights thing. Some of those choices are weird since snes games can play music at all times.
I like how he points out the obvious 3:15
I've never seen either of the games before this, but that one boss fight against Buzz is one of the most intimidating looking bosses for either console.
It was based off a never used nightmare scene in the movie when Andy ended up throwing Woody out in the trash. That of which was scrapped, as the producers thought it was far too scary for children to see too.
Great Episode!! I always played the Snes Version, but now i have to buy the Genesis Version.
Thanks Guys :-)
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Console Wars im also new love ur videos
Edit: Love ur streams
Dear "Console Wars":
Excellent video! One notable error, though: The theme song for Toy Story is "You've Got A Friend In Me", but was misidentified at 9:13 in the video as "Friend Like Me" (from Disney's Aladdin). I'm surprised that I barely noticed it now, and not the first time I saw your video (near Thanksgiving 2017). Other than that, not a bad production. Keep up the good work!
Sincerely,
"MeloaEpiphany"
Selma, California
I know. Thanks though.
No worries. :-)
You should do Boogerman: A Pick And Flick Adventure
They did already.
@@loutrenajackson5550No, they did not.
So awesome guys! Your awesome show just keeps getting a little better!
Christopher Hensley Thanks!
I had that Ninja Turtles poster when I was a little kid!!! So rad!
Its a great poster.
Dig your guys' videos!
hey console wars great review! btw u guys made a reference of doom u should make a doom review for super nintendo and sega gensesis keep the hard good work! ;) Thumbs Up!
The graphics look better on Sega Genesis even though there are more colors on SNES
SNES has missing details so best graphics goes to Sega
I agree Toy Story looks better on Sega Genesis same goes for the sound 🎙️as well 😁👍
Yes I agree!!!
You boys got credit for every game.
Awesome episode! Love the jokes with the Toy Story fan.
AkumaTh1 Thanks! Those bits were fun to make.
Dan called “ You’ve got a friend in me”
“Friend Like Me”
Yup. One day I should do a video of all my mistakes.
Great episode! I never played the Genesis version of the game.
The graphics and music are much better in the SNES, but it feels so empty without "I Got a Friend on me".
Also, I didn't knew that there was na extra level in the Sega game.
I'm going to check it out and play it now. :)
***** I imagine the Mega Drive one feels empty too considering that that song isn't real.
Nintendofan? É vc?
It's funny how 'You've got a Friend in Me' IS in the SNES game's code, but for whatever reason it wasn't implemented where it needed to be. There do exist PAR or Game Genie codes to play the track though.
+Josh Walker stop spreading misinformation
BlindlyZack It's not misinformation when it's correct.
tcrf.net/Toy_Story_(SNES)
that link proves nothing. stop talking on things you know nothing about.
BlindlyZack It actually proves that my point is correct. I'm not going to waste any more of my time on you since you're just ignoring the facts I sourced.
Love how Woody's dance goes well with the Level Complete
Also Woody doesn't even do the full dance on the SNES Version
Did you know that Japan was only able to get one of the two versions? That was the SNES/Super Famciom release, which Capcom brought over for distribution. Too bad, they missed out on the superior Sega Megadrive/Genesis release. GameFAQs is my source for the evidence.
wow great video guys! I actually forgot i had toy story on genesis :)
Oh btw... this video gave me the idea that maybe every now and then you could have a certain special guest! That certain special guest being representative of the Turbo Grafx-16 versions. I think it would be a great addition and can add some new elements that we have not seen before. It would also fit this show quite well, after all it is console wars.
neoknux009 Yeah, cool idea. Guests on other consoles is something I've wanted to do for a while. Thanks for watching!
oh god the memories
Best opening great stuff
Nice video! You guys get a new sub! Here is a video suggestion, NBA Jam Sega VS Nintendo.
Tails19935 Thanks! And that game's on the list!
A movie about video games, set in an arcade... Hmm... kinda like Wreck-It Ralph?
Also, I grew up with the Genesis version, one of my favorite games for the console actually! It ranks up there with Sonic 3, Streets of Rage 2, The Revenge of Shinobi, Toejam and Earl, TMNT: Hyperstone Heist, and Bio-Hazard Battle.
Great show guys, congrats! I really would like to see a Hagane vs. Revenge of Shinobi episode. Pleaaaseeee! It's 16 bit 80s vs 16 bit 90s!!!!. Both are more or less similar in gameplay and imho pretty good examples of what these machines can do.
styxiniton Thanks! And we'll look into those games.
I'm so glad you did this game! I always enjoyed the Genesis version more because I feel like the game was a better stretched the hardware to its limits. The Genesis version has more levels (and it might just be me) but I always thought the Genesis version had better control. Great review guys. I don't know why, but that Steve Guy joke got a good laugh out of me, it was so random. You guys rock, keep up the great work.
***** Glad you enjoyed. And the Steve Guy bit is a true story. I really pissed a Guitar Center employee off cause I didn't want to tell him my name.
Console Wars True stories make the funniest jokes sometimes.
Love your vids so awesome
Vkhadijah Smith Thank You!
The funny thing is I JUST wrote a review of this game for a friend who's a big Toy Story fan. I've played both versions. Yet somehow I never noticed the control issues.
Lol, i dunno why but those part at 3:14 are killing me XD
Holy shit! Dat Mask of Tengu Batman at 3:17!
mahlazer, that would be totally me at 3:14! "Uuuuuuuh" (7:15 to *cough cough*)
I own the snes version, but played the sega version as well. . . And I agree, segas better!
I think your videos are pretty good. The only thing is that the acting is a little hokey. Some moments are just a little cheesy and awkward. The video pace is kind of all over the place, and it's not very consistent. The jokes fell a little bit forced and somewhat cringe worthy at times too. Sometimes they last too long and slow down the pacing of the videos. The breakdowns you guys do of the games are great, and the fact that you both have conflicting personalities can make for interesting segments and conflicts. I wish you guys the best of luck, and that you continue to make new videos and keep on making improvements.
YungJamin Thanks. We're always trying to improve with every episode.
That friggin thumbnail is funny as hell.
The trumpet part reminded me of the music in the first Resident Evil.
Anthony McClintock I actually kinda ripped it of my karaoke machine. Thats the music you get when you get a 90 or higher.
Console Wars haha. Awesome!
May I mention how the SNES version is missing half of the level complete animation It just reverses the 1st bit for the rest
Cool my comment appeared in 14:22 :)
Fun channel. Not too much hassle yet fun and informative. Grr
There's a cheat code on both consoles on Toy story at level 2 (red alert) collect only 7 stars, go to the toy chest and hold down in 5 seconds or more when the top left star is spinning it means your hit points are unlimited.
Nice video guys, as always! Please, do bugs bunny in double trouble vs bugs bunny in rabbit rampage, or, Donald in Maui mallard vs Maui mallard in cold shadow.
I just like you guys, Can't wait to watch next epsiode.
The lay-out of the Doom-like level is also quite different from each other with the Sega version being better.
Just made an omelette now time for some Console Wars!
DAT Wreckit Ralph reference xD
I only played it on PC back in the days so.
SuperHns Glad you caught that! Wasn't sure if it was obvious enough.
Console Wars yes, because mainly when I watched Wrecked Ralph first time my girl said, hey this is like Toy Story and I agree hehehe
Good review but I don't agree with the sound verdict. In several of your comparisons you have given the win to Sega due to an extra sing or two but admit the SNES version sounds better (which it does). I would rather a smaller soundtrack that sounds better than more songs of a poorer quality. Just my opinion though.
No way, the sega version sounds way better