Totally agree, and glad you put this out there. Music is such a source of joy, meaning, and inspiration, and there's so much to appreciate, I also get a bit annoyed when people have to be so negative about it. Sure, it's fine if you don't like a certain album, band, or style of music, and it's OK to say so, but that doesn't mean it 'sucks' or is terrible or unworthy of a listen. There may be many other people that really love that music and that it means a lot to them. Go listen to something else that you do like. I also try to be very positive and talk about what I love rather than what I don't. And sure, I also like to rank bands and albums according to my preferences (usually from least favorite to most favorite rather than worst to best), but others may have drastically different opinions (and usually do). As you said, it's just a matter of preferences and what you like or don't, but it's all good. I understand that UA-camrs often do this kind of thing just to get views, but I don't understand why going negative leads to more views. It seems that rave reviews should get more attention, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Anyway, great job, and I'm with you all the way.
Diego from Kingcrow here (btw thank you very much for the review of our latest album Hopium!). Very clever and mature point of view. I think there's some kind of ego involved in when people judge something (music in this case but you can apply this to basically everything) that makes them think "i don't like it = shit" because they think they have great taste and if someone has a different opinion it's his "fault" or he doesn't understand etc... It's very rare that you find someone saying something like "oh it's a great record but it doesn't click with me, i don't like it". I do have a lot of seminal classic records that are without doubt beautifully done and i simply don't like to listen to them because they somehow don't click with me. But i can see all the qualities for what they are...so I think there's some kind of "quality" that can be recognized in the aesthetic of how music is done. Then if we start talking about the emotional impact then it's all completely subjective. Anyway cool video
Thank you for the comment and for a wonderful album with Hopium! I think it makes a lot of sense that there are probably two different ways to look at music, one is objective (quality of how the music is made, techniques used by the artist/band, etc.) and the other subjective (the emotional impact of the music itself on the listener). I guess my point in the video is I focus a lot more on the subjective...I'm aware that I'm not an expert in the technical side of music, so my approach with the channel is to represent the music fan and to share what connects with me musically to like-minded people with similar taste... I believe when it comes to the artists/bands that I truly love and recommend, I trust them to cover the objective side and make good quality records and then it is just up to my taste if I end up liking it or not...
@@NathanOnShuffle My point is: usually the emotional response take over any possible "objective" quality. So if something resonate or doesn't on an emotional level it's automatically an indication of quality. Which obviously it isn't, but that's the way most people thinking works :)
Agree with you Nathan! How much good music is lost by those who trust in the criteria of others instead of listening to the music themselves and forming their own criteria? First give the artist a chance and then form your own opinion without prejudice.
Very smart words. I agree with you. What I really do not like is when people (mis)use the word HATE. Hate is a very strong word and should be used like salt.
I have actively stopped clicking on negative click-baited things. Even if that is not what is actually happeing in the video. So, again, my friend, ΣΥΜΦΩΝΩ!
Very insightful, confident yet respectful of others' opinions, Nathan! I am in the midst of a deep Prog dive (at 64 y/o!) I find sometimes people recommend music I love and sometimes I don't connect with it. As you do, I give it a few listens and see if I can connect with it. I get what you're saying about King Crimson but I have more invested in try to make it work. I loved Discipline and Robert Fripp. I saw them live in 1982 but I find a lot of there stuff a hard listen. So, I'm still trying with them. Finally, if not, there's a ton more out there to explore. We're lucky we have all this choice at our fingertips, whether on the keyboard or through the record bins!
Nathan. IMO you have the best prog related show currently on UA-cam. The fact that you don't do negative-spirited click bait is one of the biggest reasons. I've grown tired of some other channels and their attention grabbing negativity and even manufactured "feuds". Carry on with your good work, Sir!
When as a teenager in school in the late 70's / early 80's the likes of The Beatles were ( from most school friends ) considered not cool , old , and not of our generation. That notion seems crazy now. So you were either into new wave/punk , or new romantic , or NWOBHM , or ska/2 tone , there was so many styles of excellent music. But it's the same point as yours Nathan. There's nothing BAD , we all hear and enjoy music differently. Prog just happened to grab me by the scruff of the neck and has never let go since... Great points and great video Nathan. 😍🎵🎵🤘
Wise words mr. Nathan! So true about what you said about some albums that somehow generally is labeled terrible. There are so many albums that I have not given a try because everyone was echoing eachother's negative opinions. 'You are supposed to dislike this album...' But after trying anyway, some of these albums are way better than what others think. Genesis' Calling all stations, Metallica's Reload, Aphelion by Leprous and Heritage by Opeth to name a few. We should not be lead by negative reviews.... Love the spotlight video's because you love something and want others to love it too! What is really annoying sometimes are reviewers that are not into a band anymore and review album after album, saying that they are missing something in the music, it should be this, it should be that, I wish there was more metal etc. etc. etc. Leprous the best example recently... Too many reviewers saying the same thing for the last four albums, more or less saying that they wish it would sound like the first four albums.... Maybe, just maybe, it has evolved into a band that is no longer for you... Anyway, now I am rambling on. I can understand youtubers who use clickbate titles, because in the end you want to attract subscribers, but great that you keep on doing this the way you want to do it. To be true to yourself, your vibe!
I try to label my review videos as 'spotlights' because I don't really see myself as a music 'critic' but more of a music 'recommender'. If an album just isn't connecting with me, I probably won't talk about it on the channel...or I'll try to pull out the good things about it and why someone else might like it even if it didn't quite click for me..I know my overly positive vibe might not work for everyone, but hopefully it connects with a select few out there!
As somebody who has studied the psychological effects of music for decades… here’s a truth you didn’t cover that may be more interesting… Music is far less subjective than we all think. There are hundreds of experiments on this. Such as, give a group a backing track and play them a melody. 50% may like it. Play the melody again. Now 75% will like it. (This has to do with the melody now being more familiar) Now play the melody one more time…. Now only 25% will like it. Doesn’t matter the genre, how long how short… How human s respond to music is fairly predictable. We all agree on 90% of it. The rules of harmony are based on the laws of physics. Other animals also seem to respond to these rules. It’s the same idea as we share 96% of our DNA with chimps. We are mostly the same but the differences are notable. Music is like that.
Great perspective, thank you for sharing it!
Great video Nathan! Keep being you! This is why we love you and come to the channel.
Totally agree, and glad you put this out there. Music is such a source of joy, meaning, and inspiration, and there's so much to appreciate, I also get a bit annoyed when people have to be so negative about it. Sure, it's fine if you don't like a certain album, band, or style of music, and it's OK to say so, but that doesn't mean it 'sucks' or is terrible or unworthy of a listen. There may be many other people that really love that music and that it means a lot to them. Go listen to something else that you do like. I also try to be very positive and talk about what I love rather than what I don't. And sure, I also like to rank bands and albums according to my preferences (usually from least favorite to most favorite rather than worst to best), but others may have drastically different opinions (and usually do). As you said, it's just a matter of preferences and what you like or don't, but it's all good. I understand that UA-camrs often do this kind of thing just to get views, but I don't understand why going negative leads to more views. It seems that rave reviews should get more attention, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Anyway, great job, and I'm with you all the way.
Diego from Kingcrow here (btw thank you very much for the review of our latest album Hopium!). Very clever and mature point of view. I think there's some kind of ego involved in when people judge something (music in this case but you can apply this to basically everything) that makes them think "i don't like it = shit" because they think they have great taste and if someone has a different opinion it's his "fault" or he doesn't understand etc... It's very rare that you find someone saying something like "oh it's a great record but it doesn't click with me, i don't like it". I do have a lot of seminal classic records that are without doubt beautifully done and i simply don't like to listen to them because they somehow don't click with me. But i can see all the qualities for what they are...so I think there's some kind of "quality" that can be recognized in the aesthetic of how music is done. Then if we start talking about the emotional impact then it's all completely subjective. Anyway cool video
Thank you for the comment and for a wonderful album with Hopium! I think it makes a lot of sense that there are probably two different ways to look at music, one is objective (quality of how the music is made, techniques used by the artist/band, etc.) and the other subjective (the emotional impact of the music itself on the listener).
I guess my point in the video is I focus a lot more on the subjective...I'm aware that I'm not an expert in the technical side of music, so my approach with the channel is to represent the music fan and to share what connects with me musically to like-minded people with similar taste...
I believe when it comes to the artists/bands that I truly love and recommend, I trust them to cover the objective side and make good quality records and then it is just up to my taste if I end up liking it or not...
@@NathanOnShuffle My point is: usually the emotional response take over any possible "objective" quality. So if something resonate or doesn't on an emotional level it's automatically an indication of quality. Which obviously it isn't, but that's the way most people thinking works :)
Agree with you Nathan!
How much good music is lost by those who trust in the criteria of others instead of listening to the music themselves and forming their own criteria?
First give the artist a chance and then form your own opinion without prejudice.
Hey Nathan! Great video. Thank you!!!👍😎
Rant videos are always the best content!!!!!
@@TheProgCorner Lol! You would know!!! Happy Birthday on Saturday!🎈🎈🎈🎉🎉🎉🎂🎂🎂👍😎
Agree with you 100% Nathan, life is too short for all the negativity.
Very smart words. I agree with you.
What I really do not like is when people (mis)use the word HATE. Hate is a very strong word and should be used like salt.
I have actively stopped clicking on negative click-baited things. Even if that is not what is actually happeing in the video. So, again, my friend, ΣΥΜΦΩΝΩ!
Very insightful, confident yet respectful of others' opinions, Nathan! I am in the midst of a deep Prog dive (at 64 y/o!) I find sometimes people recommend music I love and sometimes I don't connect with it. As you do, I give it a few listens and see if I can connect with it. I get what you're saying about King Crimson but I have more invested in try to make it work. I loved Discipline and Robert Fripp. I saw them live in 1982 but I find a lot of there stuff a hard listen. So, I'm still trying with them. Finally, if not, there's a ton more out there to explore. We're lucky we have all this choice at our fingertips, whether on the keyboard or through the record bins!
Nathan. IMO you have the best prog related show currently on UA-cam. The fact that you don't do negative-spirited click bait is one of the biggest reasons. I've grown tired of some other channels and their attention grabbing negativity and even manufactured "feuds". Carry on with your good work, Sir!
Thank you so much, this means a lot to me!
When as a teenager in school in the late 70's / early 80's the likes of The Beatles were ( from most school friends ) considered not cool , old , and not of our generation. That notion seems crazy now. So you were either into new wave/punk , or new romantic , or NWOBHM , or ska/2 tone , there was so many styles of excellent music. But it's the same point as yours Nathan. There's nothing BAD , we all hear and enjoy music differently. Prog just happened to grab me by the scruff of the neck and has never let go since...
Great points and great video Nathan. 😍🎵🎵🤘
Wise words mr. Nathan! So true about what you said about some albums that somehow generally is labeled terrible. There are so many albums that I have not given a try because everyone was echoing eachother's negative opinions. 'You are supposed to dislike this album...' But after trying anyway, some of these albums are way better than what others think. Genesis' Calling all stations, Metallica's Reload, Aphelion by Leprous and Heritage by Opeth to name a few. We should not be lead by negative reviews.... Love the spotlight video's because you love something and want others to love it too!
What is really annoying sometimes are reviewers that are not into a band anymore and review album after album, saying that they are missing something in the music, it should be this, it should be that, I wish there was more metal etc. etc. etc. Leprous the best example recently... Too many reviewers saying the same thing for the last four albums, more or less saying that they wish it would sound like the first four albums.... Maybe, just maybe, it has evolved into a band that is no longer for you...
Anyway, now I am rambling on. I can understand youtubers who use clickbate titles, because in the end you want to attract subscribers, but great that you keep on doing this the way you want to do it. To be true to yourself, your vibe!
I try to label my review videos as 'spotlights' because I don't really see myself as a music 'critic' but more of a music 'recommender'. If an album just isn't connecting with me, I probably won't talk about it on the channel...or I'll try to pull out the good things about it and why someone else might like it even if it didn't quite click for me..I know my overly positive vibe might not work for everyone, but hopefully it connects with a select few out there!
I solute your positivity Nathan. I know the artists appreciate it. I must admit I’ve fallen for all the prog banter going around.
Wise words.
Whereas with me, King Crimson is the ONLY classic prog band that I listen to and enjoy consistently 😵 To each their own 🌈
Keep on ranting !
As somebody who has studied the psychological effects of music for decades… here’s a truth you didn’t cover that may be more interesting…
Music is far less subjective than we all think.
There are hundreds of experiments on this. Such as, give a group a backing track and play them a melody.
50% may like it.
Play the melody again.
Now 75% will like it. (This has to do with the melody now being more familiar)
Now play the melody one more time….
Now only 25% will like it.
Doesn’t matter the genre, how long how short…
How human s respond to music is fairly predictable.
We all agree on 90% of it.
The rules of harmony are based on the laws of physics. Other animals also seem to respond to these rules.
It’s the same idea as we share 96% of our DNA with chimps.
We are mostly the same but the differences are notable.
Music is like that.
Fascinating perspective! Thanks for sharing!