Remember the episode where BJ suggested Hawkeye was using humor as a defense mechanism? That's one of my favorite episodes because all kinds of funny things happened that day, and Hawkeye was about to burst at the seams before it was over! Alas, the series finale suggests BJ might have been correct.
They had the best consultants for how people handle impossible stress and their own inner conflict. The episode with chicken substituting for child was/is priceless in showing one example (of many) how a person can regret their own action so profoundly that they can't face it. Had it been real life, I can imagine the poor mother knew exactly what the stakes were. She had to choose quickly. Her grief/feelings of guilt would be profound, but she would be unlikely to disassociate herself from the action as Hawkeye did.
1:46 This was the biggest sign, in my book. Like 5:00 is as red a flag as any, he snaps at the slightest word and just basically invents a thing to joke about and still represent his anger and pain, but if that's a red flag, this was scarlet. Hawkeye IS a surgeon, not just as a profession but in his delivery, in his words. The delivery of what he's saying is familiar enough, but his words are filled with perhaps the deepest venom we've ever seen. Simultaneously blunt and cutting. Devoid of any of the warmth and purpose they once held.
If you’ve ever read Never stuff your dog by Alan Alda it adds so much. He wrote like half of this episode and his mother was paranoid schizophrenic and he talks several times about how insistent she was that she’s smart. Every time I see him going where do they get the gall to lock up a brilliant surgeon I think about that
What everyone is forgetting is Hawkeye had been involved pretty much throughout the entire Korean War. The first MASH units were created in the Pusan Perimeter as a way to get badly wounded men the treatment needed to save them. Then they're shipped out to places like Tokyo or the American west coast for further treatment. The unit that the 4077 was based off of the real 8055 had the same success rate as the 4077th.
@Robert Reital plus remember saw a friend of his die on the table as he was working on him. He also was wounded protecting Margaret from shelling and other crap.
Not related to Hawk. But the tank he drives is different then when it arrives. In the beginning when the injured driver arrives it is the M41 Walker Bulldog, yet by the point Hawkeye gets it its swaps to the M4 Sherman tank. I've always wondered why they swapped it?
Best guess? He heard more than he wanted to from Frank Burns after Burns' own little tank joyride, then he used those memories to learn the control layout as he went.
You're not wrong for asking. Tanks are kinda famously hard to learn to drive. On the other hand, there are a lot of similarities with bulldozers. And folks in farming communities often have a lot of experience with heavy equipment, even if they aren't farmers themselves. And he doesn't appear to have driven it particularly well. I mean, it is obvious that edited out was him running over a tent/building. And there wasn't difficult terrain or anything. I'm just saying that is doesn't strain credibility that a kid from Crab Apple Cove might have learned to drive a bulldozer, and thus been able to drive a tank well enough to move it. But mostly the Plot needed him to do it. ;)
the character Hawkeye was portrayed as a self rightous, self centered, selfish elitist whom took rebellious acts to support a "peace" favoring good guy self view. A user of women and dishonest in relationships. Had I been there I would have been his friend.
Remember the episode where BJ suggested Hawkeye was using humor as a defense mechanism? That's one of my favorite episodes because all kinds of funny things happened that day, and Hawkeye was about to burst at the seams before it was over! Alas, the series finale suggests BJ might have been correct.
They had the best consultants for how people handle impossible stress and their own inner conflict. The episode with chicken substituting for child was/is priceless in showing one example (of many) how a person can regret their own action so profoundly that they can't face it. Had it been real life, I can imagine the poor mother knew exactly what the stakes were. She had to choose quickly. Her grief/feelings of guilt would be profound, but she would be unlikely to disassociate herself from the action as Hawkeye did.
The fact he uses humor as a coping mechanism in a show that was a coping mechanism for many is crazy
He was part of my education before I needed coping mechanisms.
Alan Alda's performance is so good, but this episode is hard to watch for a lot of reasons
Pretty sure that's the point.
Amen
This episode was cringe inducing. I never liked when they weakened Hawkeye
1:46 This was the biggest sign, in my book. Like 5:00 is as red a flag as any, he snaps at the slightest word and just basically invents a thing to joke about and still represent his anger and pain, but if that's a red flag, this was scarlet. Hawkeye IS a surgeon, not just as a profession but in his delivery, in his words. The delivery of what he's saying is familiar enough, but his words are filled with perhaps the deepest venom we've ever seen. Simultaneously blunt and cutting. Devoid of any of the warmth and purpose they once held.
If you’ve ever read Never stuff your dog by Alan Alda it adds so much. He wrote like half of this episode and his mother was paranoid schizophrenic and he talks several times about how insistent she was that she’s smart. Every time I see him going where do they get the gall to lock up a brilliant surgeon I think about that
4:54 the more I think of it, BJ is talking about his child when he knows what Hawkeye is suppressing....
I haven't been able to watch the final episode since it first aired, I cried, it was so sad.
i agree. As the series matured so did the actors and the depth of the show. Humor covering over tragedy.
Just know they were having flashbacks to Burns' joyride when Hawkeye took that tank
Brilliant, irreplaceable Alan Alda 💖
I haven't seen that episode in ages. Thanks for the memory.
What everyone is forgetting is Hawkeye had been involved pretty much throughout the entire Korean War. The first MASH units were created in the Pusan Perimeter as a way to get badly wounded men the treatment needed to save them. Then they're shipped out to places like Tokyo or the American west coast for further treatment. The unit that the 4077 was based off of the real 8055 had the same success rate as the 4077th.
@Robert Reital plus remember saw a friend of his die on the table as he was working on him. He also was wounded protecting Margaret from shelling and other crap.
I know where this is going, and I can't go there. I'm out.
This is SO hard to watch.
Up through about the 4 minute, 20 second mark, this is fascinating. After that, too painful.
Kim II Sung started the Korean War in 1950. Documents released by Boris Yeltsin President of Russia ( formerly the Soviet Union) in 1994 showed this.
Not related to Hawk. But the tank he drives is different then when it arrives.
In the beginning when the injured driver arrives it is the M41 Walker Bulldog, yet by the point Hawkeye gets it its swaps to the M4 Sherman tank. I've always wondered why they swapped it?
Sorry not a m41 possible the M24 like a Patton or Pershing
I actually like the texted comment in this.
How does Hawkeye know how to pilot a tank? Am I wrong for asking that?
Best guess? He heard more than he wanted to from Frank Burns after Burns' own little tank joyride, then he used those memories to learn the control layout as he went.
You're not wrong for asking. Tanks are kinda famously hard to learn to drive.
On the other hand, there are a lot of similarities with bulldozers. And folks in farming communities often have a lot of experience with heavy equipment, even if they aren't farmers themselves.
And he doesn't appear to have driven it particularly well. I mean, it is obvious that edited out was him running over a tent/building. And there wasn't difficult terrain or anything.
I'm just saying that is doesn't strain credibility that a kid from Crab Apple Cove might have learned to drive a bulldozer, and thus been able to drive a tank well enough to move it.
But mostly the Plot needed him to do it. ;)
@@spyone4828 well said!
It’s way he finally lost it
It is not one of my favorite episodes in MASH.
the character Hawkeye was portrayed as a self rightous, self centered, selfish elitist whom took rebellious acts to support a "peace" favoring good guy self view. A user of women and dishonest in relationships. Had I been there I would have been his friend.
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Who's ill?
Hawkeye
Hawkeye was having a mental breakdown.
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