I tried them both, we went with the 2022 GC L and have no regrets. It feels so premium and is so comfortable to drive city or highway. The infotainment system is absolutely top notch and looks better integrated into the dash instead of the tablet style slapped on top. Apple car play works flawlessly and is wireless in the GC. All 3 rows are comfortable and spacious, I’m over 6’1” and I can fit comfortably in the 3rd row which isn’t the case for a lot of 3 rows we test drove before making our purchase. V6 is powerful, transmission is smooth and it always seems to be in the right gear. It won’t blow your socks off with speed but off the the line it is quite peppy for the size and was quicker than I’d expected. I’d buy this vehicle again tomorrow in a heartbeat.
@@Barcafan987 I’m 6’2” 250lbs. This is the first Jeep I’ve owned so I can’t speak to previous models but I find these seats quite comfortable and supportive.
My wife and I went with the Jeep GCL Limited. Our Luxury Tech II package included ventilated seats, upgraded cameras, wireless charging, rear sunshades etc. a little over 55k out the door. We also tried the Wagoneer out for a few days it was nice but did not fit in the garage, & in Texas heat that’s a non-negotiable. Coming from an Audi SQ5 and Porsche Macan this meets our desires/must haves out of a 3-row vehicle, particularly for a growing family. I just couldn’t see us driving a Kia for a few years after the hype dies down. This was also her push gift, I still have the Porsche Macan S. We’re confident we made the right decision and my wife who always wanted this truck loves it. FamCam is the new wave for toddlers/newborn ❤️🔥😮💨
I got my 2020 AWD Telluride brand-new with 5 miles on it. Now has over 27,000 miles on it. I drove from one end of this Empire to the other. *No Problems*Smart Mode is your best friend. God Bless
The GC Summit Reserve is such a nice vehicle. For long trips the driver assist that steers and controls the speed for you is really amazing. Closest thing to a Tesla type experience I've seen. Massage seats, night vision camera that alerts you to something like a deer, 21" wheels, 19 McIntosh speakers and just an insanely nice interior front to back. It's worth the money. And as all Jeeps, it will HOLD IT'S VALUE.
@@Capo_jc21 Uh...yea let me know where to get a BMW x7 for 70k. My Grand Cherokee was 65k. A base BMW x7 is more like 75k and one comparable to the features of the Grand Cherokee would be 100K+
We just bought the 2022 Kia Telluride SX Prestige Nightfall, Pearl White with Black interior. It's a spiritual experience to drive/ride in this vehicle. 😉 We traded our Optima in for this beauty & what a great decision we made!
I currently drive an Optima that is about to hit 6 years old and I have had zero problems with it. I'll be trading it in for the Wolf Gray SX Nightfall in the next 6 months or so.
@@gary_neilson1896 I have booked my Telluride SX 3.5 months ago....no luck so far...My dealer saying may be in next 1-2 months....no idea whether they sold it for a higher price to someone and making me wait like that.....really frustrating...
My Son and Daughter In Law got the Jeep yesterday, so being a Mom working in automotive, I had to naturally check out your vidio. 👍 good comparison vidio. I'm happy they can keep an eye on both my Grandson and Granddog in the Jeep. They love it in black.
As a former owner of three Hyundai products (same as Kia) I’d like to address the warranty difference. Quality issues and failures plagued both my Sonata and Santa Fe. When going to the dealership to address issues, the dealer did not actually have the authority to do repairs. They had to get authorization from a higher authority. This process sometimes took days. Sometimes our dealership had to argue on our behalf when the answer came back “no”. We had a phantom electrical problem which only showed up when it rained. This problem never got fixed. The drivers seat leather is paper thin and split within 3 years. Hyundai only fixed it after we threatened a lawsuit. We ended up selling the Sante Fe back to them and buying a Honda. We had several issues - way way more problems than our Honda CRV and we always seemed to be arguing with Hyundai. Be aware, the long warranty is not without its baggage. You will feel like you have to beg to get warranty repairs or argue against the “normal wear and tear” excuse. I also had a Genesis which IS a high quality car, but that too let me down. It was a great car until I bought it into the dealership for a recall and they reprogrammed the motor which took much of the power out of the motor. It was no longer the powerful luxury car i purchased. Hyundai said nothing about it and when I questioned them, they just said it was a reliability update. No more Korean made vehicles for me. I ended up leaving the Genesis right there. I’m tired of fighting that fight.
It kind of reminds me of that line on Tommy Boy. “Because they know all they solda ya was a guaranteed piece of sh*t. That's all it is. Hey, if you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed, I will. I got spare time. But for right now, for your sake, for your daughter's sake, ya might wanna think about buying a quality item from me.” 🤣
Korean cars are still in the process of improving quality. I would not buy a Telluride, markups up to 10k. I went to Jeep Grand Cherokee L and so happy. Super quality ride and so far 20k miles trouble free. It has everything for long travels, but wish the tank were at least 30 gallons. Mine got 550 miles per tank, 23 mpg at 75 miles. Only thing I would change, the 4wd works great.
I have owned a grand Cherokee and a ceyenne. After driving the Kia I am going with Grand Cherokee L. Kia is a great build no question. Just loved the GC Trailhawk and love the new 3rd row option.
Thank you so much for this video because I have worked my butt off for several years and I have finally saved enough money to own a new vehicle and literally these are the two that I was trying to choose from and Lord behold this channel had a video of them both thank you so much I am very grateful that I have seen this video and I have made my decision and I truly believe the wife is going to be excited as well. Thank you again for this video and have a blessed day everyone
As someone thats owned and driven lots of FCA vehicles, please don't buy the jeep. You'll be sorry when that warranty runs out. My 3.6 pentasutar needed new cylinder head at 70k miles, new transmission at 60k, new water pump, radiator, AWD system rebuilt at 65k, at 85k I'm on the 3rd leaking oil cooler and needs replaced again... I swear it's been in the shop more than I've driven it, DONT DO IT!
@@nickloss I've heard lots of complaints about this company! Unfortunately these UA-camrs never tell you about the long term quality of vehicles--just what they are like when new!
I bought my 2011 GC with 63k. Now it has 104k. No issues in my time of owning it. It has the Pentastar V6. I would choose the Jeep just because the Pentastar is a fantastic engine and the 8 speed is a very solid transmission, but it also does the most and rides the best with the Quadra lift air suspension. I just wish they made the V8 available on all trims.
I had the 2020 Telluride SX and had 0 problems with it. Black on black with the peanut butter interior. I even put a super dark tint. It turned a lot of heads. But I quickly fell out of love with it and ultimately traded it in for the new GMC 1500 Sierra X31... I would definitely recommend the Telluride for families with small children... There's an unbelievable amount of space as well, especially if you lay all of the rear seats down. And there are tons of safety features as well!
Great video and I was debating between the exact two suvs! I love the telluride but I went with the Jeep as the telluride wait was over 4 months and it has this horribly annoying and uncomfortable dead pedal next to the brake. I’m 6’4 so comfort is really important to me. The Jeep fit me like a glove. I was even able to get $3500 off with an employee discount. I got the limited 4wd with the tech package so I got a lot of creature comforts including ventilated seats, rear view camera in the rear view mirror, etc. I can’t wait to get my gc L next week!
Glad to see you are getting your new GC next week. I ordered a 2021 old body style GC in May and it has been scheduled but not built yet. I went with the old one because I was able to get the 5.7 at a 50k price point. The new L is only offering the 5.7 on higher trim levels. I also heard that the new L is 50lbs lighter than the old GC. Sometimes in design, increase in weight results in increase performance/durability. So where did engineering make the weight vs strength trades, I would love to know.
@@keytothegate68 I agree, specifically the front (headlights and daytime running lights) and the rear of the vehicle were much more attractive, unique. I do find the interior of the new Jeep appealing. Needless to say, I will not be upgrading my 2014 model yet.
Only in the higher trims does it compare to the telluride with comparable features. Heads up display, heated and cooling middle seats, etc. Plus the kia has a 10 year warranty 👍
@@victorquintana5870 The 10yr warranty is powertrain only. Jeep is for people with more money who lease so warranty isn't an issue - Kia owners will buy and keep. The Jeep is orders of magnitude more capable offroad and is more luxurious. They really aren't comparable and Jeep will hold its value far longer.
@@smudge1619 yeah I agree about off road capabilities but Telluride offers features you can't get on the jeep and it's only about $50k fully loaded where the Jeep will be about $65k so as far as holding the value I disagree. If you have a jeep you already paid too much so what's a used Cherokee going for versus a Telluride? Even with a lease you're paying more.
Great comparison. I own both the Kia and the Jeep and I enjoy them equally . The jeep may have a higher sticker price but because they have better financing options the payment per month is actually cheaper. That should be a consideration.
@@donmoran3404 bruh. U got me wrong. I am saying that telluride is that worth paying mark up. I asked kyle if he is from 90a As kyle said that kia is garbage
@@elrodillo07 I agree with you 100% Some people are just angry that other people are entitled to their own opinions. 😂 It’s unfortunate that my wife and I had gotten a damn 2018 Kia Soul right before the Telluride launched.
@@jcam3327 You clearly have no idea on what you are talking of. Check JD Power reliability ratings - Kia is at the top, above Toyota. Jeep is down the list! All new Kias built on their new platforms are 100 times more reliable than the Jeeps.
@@gosman949 2500 under msrp, just under 65k. Also got a 100k bumper to bumper with that. There are PLENTY of GC inventory so that's a big advantage too.
Don't forget the GC is "the most awarded SUV ever", from Jeep, and remains as the best selling SUV in its class in US, the most unloyal and betrayer market in the world for its local brands. Greetings from Costa Rica.
You should compare the top of the line models for each of these. I just got a grand Cherokee L Summit Reserve with the 5.7L hemi and it is amazing!! I’d be interested to see how it compares to the top of the line Telluride.
I like both a lot, but I ordered a GC L Limited last week. Kia is asking $3-$5k above MSRP near me, that combined with a couple other variables pushed me to the Jeep. 👍
Good for you. Anyone that pays ridiculous markup on the Kia needs their head examined. I have a 2021 Telluride S that Jeep is going to give me $7 k more than I paid for it in 2021. Because I did a factory order on the JGC Limited, they are giving me 1000k under MSRP as well as the $1500 Jeep rebate. Win Win. The fact I don't have the same warranty is a downer but you cant have everything. I asked about upgrading to a 22 Telluride or a 23 but they want 10k market adjustment. Kiss my ass.😅😆😚
I ordered me a Jeep Grand Cherokee L. I do like the Kia Telluride but I’m gone have to go with Jeep I always been a Jeep guy. Can’t wait till my Jeep come in
Just picked up my Telluride EX premier pkg. yesterday. I paid $7000 OVER the $44890 MSRP. Was not happy at all. BUT, the car specs I wanted was almost like looking for the Loch Ness monster. At my 3rd dealership (that I almost didn't go to), I found the EX in the color I wanted . I wanted an SX in white and no one had any and wouldn't trade another dealer nor order me a new one from the factory. They had one SX in Wolf Gray and nothing else. After I bought the car, the dealer said he only had 5 Kia's left on the lot. He was effectively going to be selling used cars (any brand) by November. I hope they all suffer for taking advantage and charging exorbitant prices . I have NEVER (until now) paid MSRP. The dealer probably made $15000 in profit including my trade in. The car absolutely is a great car, especially if you can get one under MSRP.
I believe one is based on a minivan architecture and the other with the higher tow rating is Trail-Rated. A test where each is used for towing and SUV duties will illustrate why a Jeep is the better workhorse.
Certainly true if heavy towing demands and a off-road mission are priorities. But neither of those features is a priority for the vast majority of consumers in this category.
95% of the people who buy GCs or Tellurides do not drive over rocks 365 days a year. People who tow everyday will get a RAM 1500 or a F150 instead. Sure, the Jeep is more capable but most people buy these cars just for regular driving with occasional fun over the weekend.
That’s precisely why the real world test needs to be done. Show the capabilities of each in what they’re designed for. I personally don’t think these two are competitors. The fact that Kia thinks they are makes the test mandatory
You guys measured 56.7 db on the Grand Cherokee and 53.3 db on Telluride going 55 mph. I would take the a Telluride for the money. Plus more room behind third row.
@@eugenepiurkowski6026 I can hear GC has more humming during measurement. But I have doubts about accuracy, GC was going over bumpy road which is impossible to measure , you have to use the same road condition. when I was comparing sportage to tiguan i was surprised that the meter showed 1 db more for tiguan, it happened to be noisy AC adding 3db. KIA is famous for road noise, though consumer reprots also says telluride is very quiet.
@@balabolrustam507 The devil is in the details. It's obvious the reviewers took 2 separate decibel measurements from both vehicles on totally different roads. This is also why I only trust well known automobile publications/web portals for accurate measured vehicle test results/data.
@@eugenepiurkowski6026 It was very obviously a bias review. You can't compare the top trim of one vehicle to the low level trim of another and call it equal. They also took different routes while measuring noise levels. A Summit Reserve GC is on a different planet then the Kia. Not even worth comparing.
I would choose the Jeep. It would also have been nice if you would’ve covered the suspension and other mechanical differences between the two vehicles.
Maybe if you can find a dealer that will let you place an order with a refundable deposit otherwise pretty much every single one arriving on lots is 2nd row captain
I own a Telluride and I love it. Looks and feels amazing, although the Jeep does look nice they've never been appealing to me. I love the digital dash, its just sad they didnt implement the 360 or turn signal cameras into it. The warranty also would be enough for me to look away from the Jeep. If they stand behind their product just give the 10 year warranty, so Kia wins for me.
@@Harry-m9b Well I do. If a car hold up there's no reason to just trade it because a new one comes out every year. I'll definitely keep mines 10 years, if you like making payments forever then go ahead.
@@dre_withthek1655 there's no better satisfaction than having new cars every 4 or 3 years.the smell is something else! im sorry but a 10 year old car is just old with old tech and smell bad.
@@Harry-m9b Different priorities. I've got a 2006 JGC, 2013 Subaru Forester, and a 2009 F150. For me, saving $700/mth is much better than driving a new car. You want to waste your money go right ahead, but understand that not everyone values the same things you do.
I would have really preferred to see a comparison between the top trim levels with Jeep just losing some points due to the higher price. This was useful to see what you get at the same price point, but it’s not quite an apples to apples comparison.
Specially considering what they're both going for in real life. I couldn't find a SX trim offered anywhere near sticker from the local dealership. Most had 10k+ markups on them and they still get sold super quick
I love my 2021 Kia Telluride EX Premium. I didn’t get the Nightfall because of the $20,000 dealership markup but they did throw in a free chrome delete and protection coating. They also had the nightfall grill installed by their preferred vendor for no additional cost. I enjoy the look of my powder coated 20 in. wheels over the ones standard on the Nightfall. My buddy just got his GC L and he loves it, too. You can’t go wrong with either, however I had issues with my previous Mopar products in the past. It is really up to you! Great review!
The speakers in this Jeep limited sound really amazing even thought they aren’t the McIntosh speakers 🤩 and the bass, mids and treble are fully customizable but it’s sounds really good with the standard settings.
They didn’t really come to a decision about the audio. I have a late-model truck with Bose sound but, due to a heavy bass sound, it seems Bose has cheapened their name.
jeep made a huge improvement over the last model. exterior looks great. but this type of interior design gets old really really fast with so much chrome and touch monitor. i love the simplicity of telluride's interior and sure will age nicely without looking old over time.
@@ph00ny1 which one ? Cause I sat in a base model one and it wasn’t. Don’t get me wrong, I think it’s a fantastic car but if you’re looking to spend right under $50K for an SUV, I’d get the 2023 L Laredo. It has the lane keep assist and adaptive cruise control as standard and a better interior IN MY OPINION.
Got myself a Telluride and I love it. Comfortable ride, really good gas mileage on the highway (terrible in the city though 😔). Plenty of room in the third row. Trunk still has good space even with the third row up.
Good review. Personally I like the styling of the Jeep. The whole design just seems to flow together inside and out. Also, I like having the extra tow capability. For about $2k more on the Limited you can get many cool features like ventilated seats, surround view camera, integrated off-road cameras, a digital rear view mirror and a decent heavy duty tow package. Plus the infotainment system is one of the best compared to all brands. The Telluride is nice but I'll take the GCL!
i currently have a 2021 Telluride EX AWD and it is the best vehicle that I have owned to date. Previously had a 2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee and gave it to my daughter with 220,630 miles on it still runs great and looks good and for what I needed at the time it was a really great vehicle. I looked at Jeep again when shopping but nothing came close to the value and quality for the money then the Telluride. Sticker to sticker, the Telluride was $7,000 more than I had paid for the 2012 Jeep when it was new. The quality and build of the Jeep is great but you are gong to pay more. So it comes to your budget and overall preference. To each their own. Happy Driving whatever you choose! :-)
As always, you guys give stellar information and you’re my favorites on UA-cam! I think I’d chose the top of the line Telluride. I’m going to the website to check out the different models & packages available.
No mention of the mechanical systems of the two vehicles. Jeep's Pentair engine tested and true. Hyundai engines have had severe problems, as with the transmissions that can't seem to figure out what gear to select on an incline. If you're looking to go off road at all, it's the Jeep all the way.
Just got Kia T two weeks ago. Got the EX with the white interior, and glacier pearl paint. This car is amazing. No hate on the Jeep. Just really love the Kia. Got for $5k off sticker.
@@kyunghoki4678 not sure where you are. I would recommend joining the Kia Telluride Owners group on Facebook and doing a search there. I know Turner Kia in Harrisburg PA sells at MSRP to PA residents. There are others in various states that do, as well. I don’t remember who they are off the top of my head, but it is brought up fairly regularly in the group.
I went to 2 KIA dealerships this weekend in an effort to test drive a Telluride (both in NH). Based on both dealers' lack of knowledge, poor understanding of their own product, and rudeness, I'll be putting my $55K elsewhere.
Sorry to hear that. Had very similar experience shopping for a Stinger. Putting the dealership aside, I can guarantee you you won't be disappointed with the car. In this segment, you find most of the competition does things interior wise that just doesn't make sense. The Koreans really 'think' about things when designing. If you can't stand KIA, at least check out the Palisade. Maybe the Hyundai network is better there for NH.
I’ve experienced the same. I feel that whether you’re purchasing a KIA, Toyota or Honda, etc, many of these dealerships need to go through Mercedes-Benz customer service training. Just because the customer is not purchasing a $100k vehicle, their still spending their hard earned money and they deserve to be treated right.
Two things I wish you would compare / rate (for all vehicle reviews btw not just this one). First the ACC and LKA features and how well they work. And do they have lane centering and stop and go? Second, is there any ambient lighting? Would like to see the cabins in the dark. These are hot buttons these days and seldom get reviewed.
My wife has a current lease on a VW Atlas which she likes, but looking at these 2 as next options when the lease ends in a few months. I refuse to pay over MSRP and if they are still hard to get the Kia will 100% be out on that reason alone. I am leaning towards the Jeep because I know Jeeps usually lease well and that payment is a big factor of course.
I was recently in the market for a SUV and some dealers were charging up to 10k over MSRP for the Telluride. Lowest market adjustment I found was about 3k over MSRP but like you I refused to pay anything over sticker. Needless to say I went with Honda and paid slightly below MSRP.
GCL's upper trims live in a different league which Telluride can't complete, for instance air suspension, other worldly 4x4 ability, night vision and supreme audio system . To choose between lower trim of GCL and Telluride, Telluride has some advantages. GCL's V6 engine is on Wards's 10-best engine list, and has a long traceable reliability record.
@@jlozano2014 The summit starts at 60k and is significantly nicer then any trim of the Telluride. The interior is more luxurious, seats are significantly more comfortable, has much better tech, more safety features, better 4WD, higher towing capacity, and better noise insulation. They are really trying to compete with Genesis, Acura, Volvo, and Lincoln
@@jjchockey lmao, a kia fully loaded with napa leather still cost less than a jeep. Not to mention all the safety crap is standard, with air suspension for loading! People act like they tow things, 90% of people dont tow anything 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Chrysler seems to have more personality. It might be the right choice for a lease (as I don't trust Chrysler reliability). But for a purchase, and its warranty, must go with the Kia.
@@telluridelover2417 its a new engine not tested yet, once the fire starts, the doors lock, even the fire men cannot break you out (if they get there in time)....nah that's a myth i haven't had those issues. Do your research you will literally see people on fire
@@telluridelover2417 i didn't say you google 1 year, I'm not sure what data you pulled here or what its related to, the most awarded SUV ever is the jeep grand Cherokee, what did you search to come up with your list direct me to it
Even as a traditional fan and past owner of a GC, gotta say that the Telluride wins this. With the exception of the dealer-markup (which I think Kia should get under control asap), the Telluride seems to be unbeatable at this price point. That being said, I'm waiting for a 3row crossover EV in the near future. If Kia can make a good Telluride EV they may have my money rn.
Wish getting the Kia exterior with the Jeep infotainment system was possible then I’d be sold. But I like how the Telluride stands out especially with the nightfall package. Being that my current Sorento has been good to be since 2012 I’d probably stay with Kia
We chose a 2021 SX prestige nightfall (wolf grey) over the jeep gc l. Much quieter ride, more personality(curb appeal), features for the money(53k otd with dealer added accessories and warranties) , warranty, interior space and ride height(perfect for loading and unloading) and exclusivity.
C'mon, bud, it`s not a Jeep! It's just a "new kid on the block". Kia? It's a joke of a name. You are comparing a foreign brand vehicle with a funny name to the "most awarded SUV ever". It's not perfect, but it's the most popular brand in the US. That should be enough for real north americans. Aren't you? And if you're not a new kid on the block to the US, maybe a US hater mexican immigrant, are you a US citizen destroying your own industry, your own country? Can't believe it. Greetings from Costa Rica.
@@bhbae1 It's funniest you don`t know where Costa Rica is. If you don't know Costa Rica, you don't know nothing about cars. You must be a muslim... because most of americans love visiting Costa Rica.Greetings from Costa Rica.
@@leerafford7460 So you think Kia Telluride is an american brand? Are you an american citizen or an immigrant from Latin America in the US? People like you are destroying the US. US is on its way to be a "banana republic" but you americans don't realize about that. I can`t understand it. Greetings from Costa Rica.
I test drove one of those new Cherokees recently. I don't know why, but the seats in that thing could not properly absorb my flatulence. That would be just too big of problem on road trips for my family.
The Telluride wins hands down. Some of the extra features (360 cameras, HUD, etc) the better warranty, plus the fact that Jeeps have a history of poor reliability makes this a no brainer IMHO. Ordering our Telluride next week! Also, I think it should be pointed out that the +3db difference in noise level in the Jeep interior = twice as loud. (In measuring sound levels, to make something twice as loud, it is actually a 3db increase)
Kia's aren't build to last...motors and trannys. Look at what percentage of Kia's that ever make it to 200k miles...almost zero. In my area its easy to calculate based off classifieds cars for sale on KSL.com. You can pull all used Kias with 1k to 200k miles for sale 1,024, and then all Kias with over 200k miles...only 4 . That amounts to about one third of one percent...almost nothing makes it to 200k. Toyota is about 7% and Jeep is 4%. Kia and Hyndai have the shortest life span based on real data not hyped marketing ads.
This comparison treats the vehicles like they’re minivans. The “suv” features like off-road capability are not even discussed. I’d like to know how these two compare if one was actually to use them as SUVs (ie light off-roading if going camping, or performance in the snow if going skiing, etc).
RIGHT, there is a video where someone took their Telluride off road into the snow with the 20/21 inch all season tires and once the tires started continually spinning the KIA shut down probably due to drivetrain temp. as a lockout to prohibit damage which is a good idea in a way. There is no use tackling heavy snow and ice with 20 inch all season tires, most reviewers admit the 20's are for looks but 18 is MUCH better for trail/offroad. NOT a good idea to constantly spin with the wrong tires but i doubt the Telluride would come close to the GC. I had a 1996 Grand Cherokee 5.2 for 12 years and always used AT tires but manufacturers realize most wont be taken offroad so they equip with all season, 2021 GC comes with 265/18 tires, i have been looking at a few Laredo models for about 35K with rebates.
Jeep is going to crush the Telluride off-road, probably not really much of a comparison really. Both should be fine for family hauling on roads in inclement weather.
There's an x factor to the JGC L that swings it in my favor. And carefully optioned with the Luxury Tech Group II, they're even closer on features and price. Good to have 2 such awesome choices! Great job as always, fellas!
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Great comparo Brothers! Nobody can deny the Telluride's value. It literally mixes luxury and mainstream with a surgical precision. Yes, the wood is "plood" and there is a "aluma-look" trim, BUT it is how they put it all together. Factoring in the standard driver assistance suite, heads up display, and other luxuries for "$50k"(more like $60k in my neck of the woods right now), it is an outstanding value. Yes, on paper, the GC is inferior. It is missing a few of the luxuries and other items this SX has, but Jeep has to do something that Kia does not: Also incorporate a real 4WD system into the vehicle. That cost has to come from somewhere, and Jeep takes it from some of the interior features. With the current pricing of the Telluride, this SX should've been measured against the Summit(not Reserve), which offers all of the features and more that this Kia has, in addition to air suspension, opt V8, etc. These two all come down to what it is important: the Kia is certainly worth a look, but at 20-30% over MSRP right now, absolutely not, whereas the GC can be purchases at MSRP or less and not be upside down severely.
I wouldn’t argue about the 4WD in the Jeep. My point would be that most buyers looking at this segment as a whole aren’t interested in a “real” 4WD system. They’re not going off-roading. They want a solid, dependable, quiet, comfortable, efficient SUV for their family that does well in snow and other inclement weather.
@@TheBjjones actually, it does matter. My point is that most all-wheel drive systems, even if not as good as the Jeep’s are just fine in almost all inclement weather conditions. I live in PA. Been driving a Honda CRV for years and have NEVER had an issue in any of the snow we get. Plus, as I’ve stated before, Jeep has a horrible record when it comes to reliability. The numbers don’t lie.
@@TheBjjonesand, at the end of the day, the numbers still don’t lie. Consumer Reports’ overall score for the Grand Cherokee 63; Telluride 96. I’ll spend my hard earned money where I see fit, and you can spend yours where you see fit. Good day.
Good comparison but the scoring system is very biased, like some ppl will give points to the keep for side air vents and not to mention SUV features like towing and off-roading is important as well
I love my Telluride SX Nightfall. Super comfortable, handles well and is much quicker than expected. If you get one, I hope you enjoy yours as much as I have mine.
Kia at this point almost has to offer a 10 year warranty, I have an aunt that bought 3 Kia SUV's and after owning all 3 for less than 10 years and well under 100,000 miles. The Kia dealership told her that after 7 or 8 years of ownership that neither were worth even $3,000, all were in good condition and she didn't drive a lot. Jeeps hold their value so much better that Kia can not even come close to.
Jeep over KIA everyday! 🙌🏼👌🏼 that kia doesn’t even compare to a jeep…especially for its suspension + the air suspension! Going through water. mud. Snow mode. Sand mode. Sport. Jeeps were military vehicles in ww1 & 2 & maybe even 3 but Ww1 for sure! & depending on the dealer you buy from, they’re always good to people. Some are just asshats! Others are amazing.
To me Jeep has a lot more road presence, brand loyalty and off road capabilities that simply put cannot be ignored... this is a proper SUV. It’s design has been around for ages and is a nod to how well it will age over time. Kia on the other hand has a design which will be overhauled as soon as new iteration hits. Cadillac has used vertical lights for ages but now has moved away. Interior design is where GCL leaves Telluride in the dust. Tablet screen design is about 12 years old and most premium automakers (Porsche Audi etc.) are moving away from it. I think Jeep nailed it. If I’m spending $50K on a vehicle I’d like a fresh design for next 10 years for sure. Telluride ride is super quiet so you gotta give it to them their
Road presence? Kia hands down. You pay 50k for this jeep and it looks no different than the average 25k jeeps. For this money I’d pick the Kia just on a reliability and warranty stand point.
@@S.0.G you could not have seen the grand Cherokee L in person. My neighbor has a grand Cherokee and my wife’s GCL towers over it…raise the air suspension up a few clicks and that thing is menacing. Being in Colorado we chose Jeep over Kia to deal with these winters…I love the look of the tellurides tho
@Joseph Payton and there's a reason for it.... All cars are like that...just bought a 2022 Honda Civic and paid MSRP...no discount.. If your getting a discount now, it just means the cars not as desirable..
With the current markups on the Telluride, they are selling for almost the same prices as the Summit. At the price point the Summit is the better buy. More features, towing capability, and off-road capability. The Telluride does have the advantage of longer warranty though.
Not sure which lots you are looking at or at all but you’re not going to find a 4x4 GC L Summit configured for less than $65K. A few months ago I heavily favored the Grand Cherokee L until I drove one. The engine lunges like crazy on the L with the 3.6. By the way Chrysler is the one playing the markup addendum game at a lot of the dealers not Kia. This publisher is a little out of touch with the Grand Cherokee L. A fully loaded limited trim will run you close to $56K just on sticker with the Luxury Tech Group that gives you ventilated front seats and some other stuff. I would never do business with a dealer that charges markup on a KIA vehicle for crying out loud. I just ordered my 22’ Telluride SX Prestige AWD with nappa leather for right around $48,5K. There are plenty of Kia dealers around without markup. Given the $7K price difference between loaded Telluride and low trim Limited GC L I’ll take the Telluride any day. You have to go up over $60K Overland to get all the off road features that aren’t even available on Limited trim at all.
@@gosman949 That's been the theory for two years now. Hasn't happened yet. People are trading theirs in and getting what they paid or more. The waiting lists are still 3+ months long just to place an order at many dealerships. Kia's production is probably maxed out at 110,000 units per year so I don't see the supply/demand ratio changing anytime soon.
@@lukejones5870 Where would that be? Because here in NYC they are adding 10k to the MSRP. So the one you paid will cost 58k. Overland is costing that....
@@dadmachines Talked to the dealer and he said because of Covid production is slow. They order 100 but get 25. While Jeep they have a lot of inventory and hence at this moment they are not marking up over msrp like Kia is doing. I'm not paying 10k over the MSRP.
@@eugenepiurkowski6026 I had issues with a Chrysler vehicle in the past, but Consumer Reports continuously ranks Jeep among the lowest brands for reliability
The Jeep is beautiful on the outside. Sadly it has less features for a higher price than the Telluride. One minor item I have noticed lacking in some three row crossovers is ceiling air conditioning vents in the rear. Since cold air naturally sinks downward, the ceiling location creates a more comfortable experience for rear passengers. The Telluride has them and the Jeep doesn't. As much as I love the looks of the Jeep, the Telluride is a better value in my opinion. Thanks for the great comparison review. You guys give the best reviews!!!
Because the Jeep has the in the c pillars which is much better then in the ceiling. The Jeep also has more features then the Telluride like air suspension, night vision, and massage seats with significantly more adjustability. The Jeep may be more expensive but it should be because it is a nicer vehicle in pretty much every regard. It competes better with the Aviator, GV80, XC90, and Q7 vs the Telluride, Pilot, Highlander.
Good details and comparison , but there are some things left out. For instance the Telluride is no way comparable to the Jeep in off road, or towing capacity. American Cars dont always match feature for feature at similar trim levels, but they are getting better. The Jeep aims for towing and true off road market, not just elevated all wheel. I looked at the telluride but it can only tow 5000 lbs, meaning I can't tow my own trailer. My Jeep (third one I've owned) can tow 7200 lbs, and hit off road areas the Telluride couldnt touch. Not trying to poopoo the Kia but for many jeep owners they buy them for more than electronics and features. I have a 2017 GC Overland w/every option possible, and got it for same pricing as the current telluride so got a good deal. Thx for the info.. :)
I can say that the power train in the Jeep has been around for a very long time. It has proven to be very reliable. To me, the rear wheel drive architecture lends to a better and more reliable SUV. I know that Durangos are capable of 27 mpg on the highway at interstate speeds and not hypermiling. I'd go for the GC personally but the Telluride seems like a solid choice
Warranty of Kia what drove me to get the Telli..we had excellent warranty experience with our old kia forte coup..never had those good warranty on our ford..
recently test drove the telluride, palisade, and GC L. The Telluride felt somehow "cheaper" inside than the other 2. Not by a lot but worth noting. I think the palisade interior felt the most premium and comfortable. The GC leather felt more premium in the seats but, overall, the interior felt like it landed in between the other 2. In the current market, we ended up going with the jeep GC L Limited (the one in this video). The current mark-ups on the the kia and hyundai, due to their popularity, put the prices far about the GC. That being said, I don't think you can really go wrong with any of the 3
Hello gentlemen Drew and Mason. That's good that in addition to doing vehicle review videos you guys do vehicle comparison videos as well. Not a lot of them, but only a select few of You Tube vehicle reviewers do a vehicle comparison video. When I saw the title of this video w/o starting to watch it yet, I had a general idea that the Kia Telluride would receive more points over the Jeep Grand Cherokee L based on what you guys said in a prior video about favorite SUV. Sure enough after watching the video the Telluride received more points. This comparison video between the Jeep Grand Cherokee L and Kia Telluride was based on price points. However, myself and others think the comparison should've been based on trim level tier ranking. If it was done like that maybe the Jeep Grand Cherokee L would've gotten more points for the win or it would've been a tie between the two vehicles. The SX trim in this video for the Kia Telluride is the fourth tier trim which is also the high tier trim. As for the Jeep Grand Cherokee L the trim level used in this video for the comparison was the Limited trim which is the third tier trim. That's the third tier trim out of the six tier trims available. Since the SX trim for the Telluride is the top of the line trim which is also the fourth tier trim, that trim level should've been used to compare the fourth tier Overland trim for the Jeep Grand Cherokee L. If not that, then the third tier EX trim for the Telluride in comparison to the third tier Limited trim for the Jeep Grand Cherokee L. So, the comparison should've been trim level tier ranking order to trim level tier ranking order. As for the Jeep Grand Cherokee L in the Limited trim it's good to note some advantages for it over the Telluride in the SX trim. The Jeep has active grille shutters, has a sensor to alert the driver if the hood is open while driving, more USB ports (6 USB ports, 6 USB-C ports), has a larger fuel tank at 23 gallons while the Kia Telluride has 18.8 gallons and greater towing capacity at 6,200 pounds with the V6 engine while the Telluride has towing capacity at 5,000 pounds with its V6 engine. Due to the fact that both of these vehicles are SUVs, the one thing they must do w/o hesitation is off roading. The Jeep Grand Cherokee L would do a better job maneuvering through the off roading courses with more ground clearance and a more advanced four wheel drive system. I know you guys are in preparation on making a comparison video between the new generation Toyota Highlander and new generation Nissan Pathfinder. Between those two vehicles I think the advantage goes to the Pathfinder. More third row seating space and more space behind the third row. Also, it would do a better job off roading. Should be an interesting matchup between those two vehicles when the time comes for the comparison video.
Different manufacturers assign different features at different levels. A loaded limited is fairly on point with a loaded SX prestige so why would you expand the goal post per se and use different trims where price is way out of whack and are no longer looking at apples to apples.
@@lukejones5870 I already know manufacturers assign different features to other trim levels. We all know that. Everybody knows that. That wasn't the purpose for my message post. The goal post wasn't expanded. All I said was to keep the trim levels in line with each other. Simple as that. So, in comparison if a third tier trim level from one vehicle is used that means a third tier trim level from another vehicle should be used when competing with each other. In reference to overall fairness that would be the way for comparison. Why choose a lower trim with one vehicle and choose a higher trim with another vehicle? Why do that? In general the Jeep Grand Cherokee L has six trim levels and the Kia Telluride has four trim levels. The SX trim for the Telluride is the "top of the line" trim while for the Jeep Grand Cherokee L the Limited trim is not the top of the line. Not the top of the line due to being the third tier in order. In the trim level lineup for the Jeep the trim level that's fourth in line is the Overland trim. Just like how the SX trim is fourth in line which is also the top of the line trim for the Telluride, the Overland trim which is also fourth in line for the Jeep Grand Cherokee L should've been used for comparison. Should've been used because for the Overland trim level that still wouldn't be their highest trim level or "top of the line" trim because there are two other trims after that. As I mentioned in my initial post the Limited trim for the Jeep Grand Cherokee L has the advantage over the SX trim for the Kia Telluride because it has active grille shutters, a larger fuel tank, a tighter turning radius, front facing camera, interior camera, would do a way better job maneuvering off roading courses and other stuff I said which should've gotten mentioned in the video.
I believe most people would be shopping for a certain price pointl as opposed to a trim level. I would think that most would buy a lower priced vehicle, especially 5k -10k cheaper, if both were comparably equipped.
@@markmoody3683 They'll be shopping at a certain price point in some cases and also shopping for features/comfort as well in other cases. Years back to a few years ago some to most people had price points as a top priority concern. However, these days the levels of concern about price points went down a little bit because a variety of payment options are available and a laundry list of incentives are there to take advantage of.
Yeah but the Jeep is a Jeep. It’s supposed to be known for that. Instead it’s now got independent front and rear suspension. It’s unreliable, dainty, and the utter representation of society as a whole. The Kia is a Kia. A brand not know for its off roading, but this telluride can come pretty damn close to keeping up with it. If you want a 4x4 SUV that’s good on road go with a 4runner. It’s the only one left in it’s class. Or get wrangler or a bronco. But my point is that it’s a sad day when a Kia beats a Jeep at its own game
You’re unlikely to find the V8 on anything except for the Summit on much of any lot. Even then the V8 will be rare to find on the lot with a Summit. Best bet for a V8 on the lot is on a summit reserve but I haven’t heard of many dealers carrying a Summit Reserve on the lot. To get the V8 on an Overland you are probably looking at a special order subject to a sizable non refundable deposit with addendum markup. I don’t think the V8 is available on limited and lower trims so you will be doing very well to get 4x4 V8 GCL for less than $65K. For 65K+ I’d be looking at Audi Q7 3.0 Premium Plus or Mercedes GLE 450….. you decide
@@lukejones5870 to get a V8 for overlanding you’ll have to get a 4th Gen 4runner or a Landcruiser or a 1st Gen tundra. Oops, those are the good vehicles sorry
I’ll put out that I live in an extremely hilly area with steep grades and heavy snowfall and the Telluride holds its own quite well. I’ve owned many Jeeps and Audis and I don’t feel less secure driving the Telluride in snowy weather.
I purchased my 2021 Palisade Limited FWD in June and even though I purchased it for only $450 below MSRP, looking at the Jeep Grand Cherokee L makes it look like a BARGAIN. The Palisade/Telluride in comparable models to the Jeep Grand Cherokee L give you far more for much less. Unless you TRULY need an off-road beast, the Palisade or Telluride will be your hands down winner on features for the money, ever time. I’m definitely enjoying my decision.
@@minisurfbanana …..Not at all. I changed the rims to a 8.5” wide rim with the same tire size and it’s made the ride even better, when it wasn’t bad to start. Mine came with Hankook tires, which I don’t like and I switched to the Michelin CrossClimate2’s, which are fantastic tires.
I think the Jeep is a bit overpriced since it is the second from base trim. If the price was more similar to the Telluride’s base, I would really be impressed. I agree that the Telluride is better, but I think that the Palisade is the best in the segment.
Yes, they took off many features from the Palisade including the 12.3 inch instrument cluster that you get even in a 18K Hyundai Elantra. It's only there in the top-trim Sorento. But the Telluride handles better while the Palisade has softer springs tuned for comfort.
I went to the dealer here in NYC, and they was marking up the Telluride for 10k. Meaning the SX is about 60k, same with Palisade calligraphy about 60k. For that price is better to get yourself a Grand Cherokee L Overland which is about the same price Telluride and Palisade are selling right now in NYC. This video does the Limited because is in price competition with the Telluride, but with the mark up of 10k here in NYC it is competing with Overland. And at that price I will buy the Overland.
I ran into the same issue. Was checking out the palisade and the Telluride top trim packages and they had a $10,000 MSRP mark up on them. I ended up with a grand Cherokee L Overland and couldn’t be more happy.
@@luey53 Be truthful what you really paid. If you get the Pro Tech and Luxury Tech packages and the off road badge on the Overland you’re looking at $65K and it’s hardly an overland without getting those packages. $68K if you want to get the overland spec’ed with V8. Kia’s Genesis GV80 is of better value and luxury at that price point.
I'll take the Kia Telluride! The new Jeep GCL interior is nice with some luxury components. However, the styling is not youthful to me compare to the Telluride. Telluride these days is getting a lot of attention by turning heads with their Range Rover-like design. If I'm not mistaken, I gotta pay $70k to get rear ventilated seats on the Jeep GCL. While the Kia Telluride offers it for nearly $20k less. And Kia has the best powertain warranty in the market. And let this be clear, Kia is now a brand that deserve recognition. They are Korean cars that is designed and built by Germans who had worked with Audi/VW, BMW, Porsche, just to name a few. So save me with the who-ha comments about their reliability for those who are stuck in a 90s time warp.
How do you choose the top end kia and the mid grade jeep . Keep it 💯and go premium for both brands and perform the test. Might wamna throw some off road testing in there as well.
Given that the scores are very close.I have to go with Kia given the very generous warranty as well as 360 camera, headsup display,turn signal cameras,power folding mirrors and lower price tag.The Cherokee held its own however it couldn’t take the barrage of punches that the telluride threw at it ,so the Kia gets the technical knockout.
@@setdwoo That's what you get for the same price. If you want to price match a $80k car, you have the Genesis GV80 if you want to compare features. The top trim of the Cherokee L is in the BMW X7 territory, not to mention Jeep's unreliability and lower warranty. I had FCA (now Sellantis) cars in the past and they always had some problem or the other.
@@soumikcom not sure what reliability issues you had but the v6 and v8 versions are well proven. I have had 2 JGC now. The first has an unlimited mile unlimited year bumper to bumper warranty from FCA. 275k miles and still running strong. My second has an unlimited mile 8 year b2b warranty. I feel like it is disingenuous to compare vastly different trim levels. The GV80 is a very good comparison. The kia not so much.
Love the Telluride , family members owned a pair GC limiteds and they were always in the shop for water pumps, transfer cases this that or something. This review was great and maybe the past Jeep issues have been addressed . Hyundai/Kia appears to have had the same prior Jeep issues and corrected them along with a very impressive warranty. The Jeep is always impressive and hopefully the Italians let what made an American icon remain a icon. I would still purchase the Kia , for the past few years nothing has toppled it as the best 3rd row SUV not even Jeep so far.
You say they have the same driver seat controls, however you did not point out the Telluride does have one more important one which is the extended leg support adjust. You even see the button when you are comparing them.
In my opinion the Kia is a mini van that can power the rear wheels in a slippery situation. I've driven both vehicles, and for me the clear choice was the GC L. I pull a boat and need the higher tow rating, I will do some minor off road driving at times, and I still want a luxury vehicle to take my customers out in. The Kia really rolled/leaned a lot in turns, and I found the interior to be nice, but just not as nice as the GC. I've reserved the GC L Overland with the technology package, and it should be here in a couple of weeks.
Check out the Overland model of the Jeep Grand Cherokee. More expensive? Yes! But 10x better interior and features than the Grand Cherokee Limited OR the Kia Telluride. Massage seats? Yep! Digital mirror? Yep! Heads up display? Yep! Plus you get that 360 degree camera view that was missing in the Limited when doing this review. Hope that helps!
I tried them both, we went with the 2022 GC L and have no regrets. It feels so premium and is so comfortable to drive city or highway. The infotainment system is absolutely top notch and looks better integrated into the dash instead of the tablet style slapped on top. Apple car play works flawlessly and is wireless in the GC. All 3 rows are comfortable and spacious, I’m over 6’1” and I can fit comfortably in the 3rd row which isn’t the case for a lot of 3 rows we test drove before making our purchase. V6 is powerful, transmission is smooth and it always seems to be in the right gear. It won’t blow your socks off with speed but off the the line it is quite peppy for the size and was quicker than I’d expected. I’d buy this vehicle again tomorrow in a heartbeat.
Got a 23' altitude. Has all options I desire and get compliments constantly. Love my GCL.
How comfortable the seat? I have GC 2015 the seats are so stiff
@~Na87 I'm a bigger dude and they are fine to me.
@@Barcafan987 I’m 6’2” 250lbs. This is the first Jeep I’ve owned so I can’t speak to previous models but I find these seats quite comfortable and supportive.
My wife and I went with the Jeep GCL Limited. Our Luxury Tech II package included ventilated seats, upgraded cameras, wireless charging, rear sunshades etc. a little over 55k out the door. We also tried the Wagoneer out for a few days it was nice but did not fit in the garage, & in Texas heat that’s a non-negotiable.
Coming from an Audi SQ5 and Porsche Macan this meets our desires/must haves out of a 3-row vehicle, particularly for a growing family. I just couldn’t see us driving a Kia for a few years after the hype dies down. This was also her push gift, I still have the Porsche Macan S. We’re confident we made the right decision and my wife who always wanted this truck loves it. FamCam is the new wave for toddlers/newborn ❤️🔥😮💨
I bought/ordered a 2022 Telluride. We found a dealership without a markup fee. Can't wait to get it!
Same here, Waiting on a ETA
18k on mine, it's been great
I got my 2020 AWD Telluride brand-new with 5 miles on it. Now has over 27,000 miles on it. I drove from one end of this Empire to the other. *No Problems*Smart Mode is your best friend. God Bless
What’s a markup fee? I went to a local dealer and he said it was going to be an extra 10k on top of original price without justifying why
What dealership did you order from if I may ask? Thanks
The GC Summit Reserve is such a nice vehicle. For long trips the driver assist that steers and controls the speed for you is really amazing. Closest thing to a Tesla type experience I've seen. Massage seats, night vision camera that alerts you to something like a deer, 21" wheels, 19 McIntosh speakers and just an insanely nice interior front to back. It's worth the money. And as all Jeeps, it will HOLD IT'S VALUE.
They’re going for 70k though . I would get something better for 70k . BMW x7 maybe
@@Capo_jc21 Uh...yea let me know where to get a BMW x7 for 70k. My Grand Cherokee was 65k. A base BMW x7 is more like 75k and one comparable to the features of the Grand Cherokee would be 100K+
You got a summit reserve for 65k ?
The Telluride has the same driver assist that steers and controls the speed.
@@unlock_your_dream_home Korean, wouldn’t trust.
If Kia is being compared to Jeep Grand C, Then Kia T has come a very long way. Absolutely the winner in my books is KIA T.
We just bought the 2022 Kia Telluride SX Prestige Nightfall, Pearl White with Black interior.
It's a spiritual experience to drive/ride in this vehicle. 😉 We traded our Optima in for this beauty & what a great decision we made!
I currently drive an Optima that is about to hit 6 years old and I have had zero problems with it. I'll be trading it in for the Wolf Gray SX Nightfall in the next 6 months or so.
How long was the waiting time in your area.?
Congrats! Ive seen a few and they are all really nice! The Palisade is also popular and looks great out on the road too.
Have fun!
@@earun100 Imagine being on a waiting list and paying over MSRP for a KIA... HAHAHAHA
@@gary_neilson1896 I have booked my Telluride SX 3.5 months ago....no luck so far...My dealer saying may be in next 1-2 months....no idea whether they sold it for a higher price to someone and making me wait like that.....really frustrating...
My Son and Daughter In Law got the Jeep yesterday, so being a Mom working in automotive, I had to naturally check out your vidio. 👍 good comparison vidio. I'm happy they can keep an eye on both my Grandson and Granddog in the Jeep. They love it in black.
Thanks! Congrats to them
As a former owner of three Hyundai products (same as Kia) I’d like to address the warranty difference. Quality issues and failures plagued both my Sonata and Santa Fe. When going to the dealership to address issues, the dealer did not actually have the authority to do repairs. They had to get authorization from a higher authority. This process sometimes took days. Sometimes our dealership had to argue on our behalf when the answer came back “no”. We had a phantom electrical problem which only showed up when it rained. This problem never got fixed. The drivers seat leather is paper thin and split within 3 years. Hyundai only fixed it after we threatened a lawsuit. We ended up selling the Sante Fe back to them and buying a Honda. We had several issues - way way more problems than our Honda CRV and we always seemed to be arguing with Hyundai. Be aware, the long warranty is not without its baggage. You will feel like you have to beg to get warranty repairs or argue against the “normal wear and tear” excuse. I also had a Genesis which IS a high quality car, but that too let me down. It was a great car until I bought it into the dealership for a recall and they reprogrammed the motor which took much of the power out of the motor. It was no longer the powerful luxury car i purchased. Hyundai said nothing about it and when I questioned them, they just said it was a reliability update. No more Korean made vehicles for me. I ended up leaving the Genesis right there. I’m tired of fighting that fight.
It kind of reminds me of that line on Tommy Boy.
“Because they know all they solda ya was a guaranteed piece of sh*t. That's all it is. Hey, if you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed, I will. I got spare time. But for right now, for your sake, for your daughter's sake, ya might wanna think about buying a quality item from me.” 🤣
Korean cars are still in the process of improving quality. I would not buy a Telluride, markups up to 10k.
I went to Jeep Grand Cherokee L and so happy. Super quality ride and so far 20k miles trouble free.
It has everything for long travels, but wish the tank were at least 30 gallons. Mine got 550 miles per tank, 23 mpg at 75 miles.
Only thing I would change, the 4wd works great.
I have owned a grand Cherokee and a ceyenne. After driving the Kia I am going with Grand Cherokee L. Kia is a great build no question. Just loved the GC Trailhawk and love the new 3rd row option.
Thank you so much for this video because I have worked my butt off for several years and I have finally saved enough money to own a new vehicle and literally these are the two that I was trying to choose from and Lord behold this channel had a video of them both thank you so much I am very grateful that I have seen this video and I have made my decision and I truly believe the wife is going to be excited as well. Thank you again for this video and have a blessed day everyone
and Charles what was your decision? If you have been saving for years, it probably isn't prudent to buy these over expensive SUVs!
Awesome, glad we could help you! 😁
As someone thats owned and driven lots of FCA vehicles, please don't buy the jeep. You'll be sorry when that warranty runs out. My 3.6 pentasutar needed new cylinder head at 70k miles, new transmission at 60k, new water pump, radiator, AWD system rebuilt at 65k, at 85k I'm on the 3rd leaking oil cooler and needs replaced again...
I swear it's been in the shop more than I've driven it, DONT DO IT!
@@nickloss I've heard lots of complaints about this company! Unfortunately these UA-camrs never tell you about the long term quality of vehicles--just what they are like when new!
Tanks for the scientific content in these comparisons. There is not other channel that does it that way. Good job!
Glad you enjoy the comparisons! 👍👍
@@CarConfections Directly from Brazil whatching you, envying the cars you have there in US.
I bought my 2011 GC with 63k. Now it has 104k. No issues in my time of owning it. It has the Pentastar V6. I would choose the Jeep just because the Pentastar is a fantastic engine and the 8 speed is a very solid transmission, but it also does the most and rides the best with the Quadra lift air suspension. I just wish they made the V8 available on all trims.
I had the 2020 Telluride SX and had 0 problems with it. Black on black with the peanut butter interior. I even put a super dark tint. It turned a lot of heads. But I quickly fell out of love with it and ultimately traded it in for the new GMC 1500 Sierra X31... I would definitely recommend the Telluride for families with small children... There's an unbelievable amount of space as well, especially if you lay all of the rear seats down. And there are tons of safety features as well!
Quickly fell out of love with it? Why
Great video and I was debating between the exact two suvs! I love the telluride but I went with the Jeep as the telluride wait was over 4 months and it has this horribly annoying and uncomfortable dead pedal next to the brake. I’m 6’4 so comfort is really important to me. The Jeep fit me like a glove. I was even able to get $3500 off with an employee discount. I got the limited 4wd with the tech package so I got a lot of creature comforts including ventilated seats, rear view camera in the rear view mirror, etc. I can’t wait to get my gc L next week!
Thanks and congrats on your new Jeep!
Glad to see you are getting your new GC next week. I ordered a 2021 old body style GC in May and it has been scheduled but not built yet. I went with the old one because I was able to get the 5.7 at a 50k price point. The new L is only offering the 5.7 on higher trim levels. I also heard that the new L is 50lbs lighter than the old GC. Sometimes in design, increase in weight results in increase performance/durability. So where did engineering make the weight vs strength trades, I would love to know.
how did you get that much off
@@boostedfern88 I got $6000.00 mine, employee pricing, with no rebates
@@keytothegate68 I agree, specifically the front (headlights and daytime running lights) and the rear of the vehicle were much more attractive, unique.
I do find the interior of the new Jeep appealing.
Needless to say, I will not be upgrading my 2014 model yet.
The Grand Cherokee L is in another league.
Only in the higher trims does it compare to the telluride with comparable features. Heads up display, heated and cooling middle seats, etc. Plus the kia has a 10 year warranty 👍
Another league for mechanical failures and repairs.
Yes, it’s part of the extremely unreliable Jeep League.
@@victorquintana5870 The 10yr warranty is powertrain only. Jeep is for people with more money who lease so warranty isn't an issue - Kia owners will buy and keep. The Jeep is orders of magnitude more capable offroad and is more luxurious. They really aren't comparable and Jeep will hold its value far longer.
@@smudge1619 yeah I agree about off road capabilities but Telluride offers features you can't get on the jeep and it's only about $50k fully loaded where the Jeep will be about $65k so as far as holding the value I disagree. If you have a jeep you already paid too much so what's a used Cherokee going for versus a Telluride? Even with a lease you're paying more.
Great comparison. I own both the Kia and the Jeep and I enjoy them equally . The jeep may have a higher sticker price but because they have better financing options the payment per month is actually cheaper. That should be a consideration.
You should be financing through your local credit union anyway so that doesn't matter
@@GuacPapi why? I bought a ford in 2020 and used ford to finance at 0apr a credit union isn’t matching that
@@fciz2023 Ford gave me the option of $6k off or 0% financing. It made sense for me to take the 6k off then just refinance at the credit union
My GCL is coming this month. Super excited, and I ordered the Summit Reserve with the HEMI V8. Great video!
I have an overland gcl and it amazing. The digital rear view mirror and massaging seats is worth it!!
Messaging seats?
Any problems with it ?? Heard people having issues
Our Telluride is on the way Aug 20th. Can't wait... It's beautiful
you should have bought the Jeep Kia is garbage
@@kylegallant3423 Opposite way around buddy. C’mon
@@kylegallant3423 lol,, ppl are paying 5k to 10k markup for Telluride,,, are you from 90's?
@@kyunghoki4678 you get what you pay for, why do you think its cheap while giving you everything!?
@@donmoran3404 bruh. U got me wrong. I am saying that telluride is that worth paying mark up. I asked kyle if he is from 90a As kyle said that kia is garbage
We went with the 2022 Telluride after considering Grand Cherokee. Very sexy car and the warranty makes sense ! 🏆🏆 good demo guys!!!
The telluride is a beauty, they need the double exhaust in the left side as well
Wrong. It’s ugly as hell. Good luck with reliability, too
@@jcam3327 to me is a beauty, and most of people in USA
@@elrodillo07 I agree with you 100%
Some people are just angry that other people are entitled to their own opinions. 😂
It’s unfortunate that my wife and I had gotten a damn 2018 Kia Soul right before the Telluride launched.
I have one of my own and its amazing. The warranty alone is enough for me to look the other direction on the Jeep.
@@jcam3327 You clearly have no idea on what you are talking of. Check JD Power reliability ratings - Kia is at the top, above Toyota. Jeep is down the list! All new Kias built on their new platforms are 100 times more reliable than the Jeeps.
650 miles already on our new 2021 GCL Summit Reserve, love it... The tech, the drive, the luxury, the size, everything is perfect for our family.
Totally agree, just got my Summit Reserve and it's pure luxury, tech, and style. Very very happy.
@@zsgarner and did you guys pay invoice or sticker? Hopefully not over sticker?
@@gosman949 2500 under msrp, just under 65k. Also got a 100k bumper to bumper with that. There are PLENTY of GC inventory so that's a big advantage too.
@@zsgarner very good! I hope more people buy the GC and take some of the relief from the Telluride. Then the Telluride prices will drop.
Don't forget the GC is "the most awarded SUV ever", from Jeep, and remains as the best selling SUV in its class in US, the most unloyal and betrayer market in the world for its local brands. Greetings from Costa Rica.
You should compare the top of the line models for each of these. I just got a grand Cherokee L Summit Reserve with the 5.7L hemi and it is amazing!! I’d be interested to see how it compares to the top of the line Telluride.
We have had the Telluride for 2 years now and don't regret it for one second ! Drives like the day we got it!
I like both a lot, but I ordered a GC L Limited last week. Kia is asking $3-$5k above MSRP near me, that combined with a couple other variables pushed me to the Jeep. 👍
Good for you. Anyone that pays ridiculous markup on the Kia needs their head examined. I have a 2021 Telluride S that Jeep is going to give me $7 k more than I paid for it in 2021. Because I did a factory order on the JGC Limited, they are giving me 1000k under MSRP as well as the $1500 Jeep rebate. Win Win. The fact I don't have the same warranty is a downer but you cant have everything. I asked about upgrading to a 22 Telluride or a 23 but they want 10k market adjustment. Kiss my ass.😅😆😚
I ordered me a Jeep Grand Cherokee L. I do like the Kia Telluride but I’m gone have to go with Jeep I always been a Jeep guy. Can’t wait till my Jeep come in
Just picked up my Telluride EX premier pkg. yesterday. I paid $7000 OVER the $44890 MSRP. Was not happy at all. BUT, the car specs I wanted was almost like looking for the Loch Ness monster. At my 3rd dealership (that I almost didn't go to), I found the EX in the color I wanted . I wanted an SX in white and no one had any and wouldn't trade another dealer nor order me a new one from the factory. They had one SX in Wolf Gray and nothing else. After I bought the car, the dealer said he only had 5 Kia's left on the lot. He was effectively going to be selling used cars (any brand) by November. I hope they all suffer for taking advantage and charging exorbitant prices . I have NEVER (until now) paid MSRP. The dealer probably made $15000 in profit including my trade in. The car absolutely is a great car, especially if you can get one under MSRP.
I believe one is based on a minivan architecture and the other with the higher tow rating is Trail-Rated. A test where each is used for towing and SUV duties will illustrate why a Jeep is the better workhorse.
Certainly true if heavy towing demands and a off-road mission are priorities. But neither of those features is a priority for the vast majority of consumers in this category.
Warranty warranty warranty wins for me
95% of the people who buy GCs or Tellurides do not drive over rocks 365 days a year. People who tow everyday will get a RAM 1500 or a F150 instead. Sure, the Jeep is more capable but most people buy these cars just for regular driving with occasional fun over the weekend.
That’s precisely why the real world test needs to be done. Show the capabilities of each in what they’re designed for. I personally don’t think these two are competitors. The fact that Kia thinks they are makes the test mandatory
I personally like the design of the jeep more inside and out
Same
Same here
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You guys measured 56.7 db on the Grand Cherokee and 53.3 db on Telluride going 55 mph. I would take the a Telluride for the money. Plus more room behind third row.
And remember sound is a logrithmic scale, so a 3.4 db difference is a lot.
@@TheBjjones it’s on at all times. The only way to turn it off is to take the fuse off.
@@eugenepiurkowski6026 I can hear GC has more humming during measurement. But I have doubts about accuracy, GC was going over bumpy road which is impossible to measure , you have to use the same road condition. when I was comparing sportage to tiguan i was surprised that the meter showed 1 db more for tiguan, it happened to be noisy AC adding 3db. KIA is famous for road noise, though consumer reprots also says telluride is very quiet.
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The devil is in the details. It's obvious the reviewers took 2 separate decibel measurements from both vehicles on totally different roads. This is also why I only trust well known automobile publications/web portals for accurate measured vehicle test results/data.
@@eugenepiurkowski6026 It was very obviously a bias review. You can't compare the top trim of one vehicle to the low level trim of another and call it equal. They also took different routes while measuring noise levels. A Summit Reserve GC is on a different planet then the Kia. Not even worth comparing.
I would choose the Jeep. It would also have been nice if you would’ve covered the suspension and other mechanical differences between the two vehicles.
Good point.
These guys were more interested in cupholders, fabric, and usb ports
They obviously getting paid by kia. No one with one brain cell would say a Telluride is better than jeep
Jeep is a premium brand. Don't compare it to Kia Motors, a small Chinese Korean brand.
One BIG advantage of the GC vs the competition is that you can get fully loaded models with 2nd row bench seat
Maybe if you can find a dealer that will let you place an order with a refundable deposit otherwise pretty much every single one arriving on lots is 2nd row captain
Although not common, you can find used loaded Tellurides with a 2nd row bench. The option is available to the Canadian market
Yeah but why? It’s just gonna break down in like a year or so
Yea bt you then go for the bigger Kia carnival
The towing capacity, greater off-road capabilities, with equal gas mileage means GJCL for the win!
And there is going to be a hybrid along with the hemi option. Plus Kia are not known to be as well made
I own a Telluride and I love it. Looks and feels amazing, although the Jeep does look nice they've never been appealing to me. I love the digital dash, its just sad they didnt implement the 360 or turn signal cameras into it. The warranty also would be enough for me to look away from the Jeep. If they stand behind their product just give the 10 year warranty, so Kia wins for me.
who stay with the same car for 10 years tho? I don't know a single person that do that
@@Harry-m9b Well I do. If a car hold up there's no reason to just trade it because a new one comes out every year. I'll definitely keep mines 10 years, if you like making payments forever then go ahead.
@@dre_withthek1655 there's no better satisfaction than having new cars every 4 or 3 years.the smell is something else! im sorry but a 10 year old car is just old with old tech and smell bad.
@@Harry-m9b Different priorities. I've got a 2006 JGC, 2013 Subaru Forester, and a 2009 F150. For me, saving $700/mth is much better than driving a new car. You want to waste your money go right ahead, but understand that not everyone values the same things you do.
@@Harry-m9b we are not all rich like you.
I would have really preferred to see a comparison between the top trim levels with Jeep just losing some points due to the higher price. This was useful to see what you get at the same price point, but it’s not quite an apples to apples comparison.
Specially considering what they're both going for in real life. I couldn't find a SX trim offered anywhere near sticker from the local dealership. Most had 10k+ markups on them and they still get sold super quick
I love my 2021 Kia Telluride EX Premium. I didn’t get the Nightfall because of the $20,000 dealership markup but they did throw in a free chrome delete and protection coating. They also had the nightfall grill installed by their preferred vendor for no additional cost. I enjoy the look of my powder coated 20 in. wheels over the ones standard on the Nightfall. My buddy just got his GC L and he loves it, too. You can’t go wrong with either, however I had issues with my previous Mopar products in the past. It is really up to you! Great review!
The speakers in this Jeep limited sound really amazing even thought they aren’t the McIntosh speakers 🤩 and the bass, mids and treble are fully customizable but it’s sounds really good with the standard settings.
Alpine system in Jeep Grand Cherokee limited edition is nice too🎶🎧
They didn’t really come to a decision about the audio. I have a late-model truck with Bose sound but, due to a heavy bass sound, it seems Bose has cheapened their name.
@@nvaratpoolswasdi5263 those im are the ones our hero has and wow they were a big upgrade from those 4 speakers we had in our 2017 Honda CRV
jeep made a huge improvement over the last model. exterior looks great. but this type of interior design gets old really really fast with so much chrome and touch monitor. i love the simplicity of telluride's interior and sure will age nicely without looking old over time.
umm the telluride is anything but simplistic in interior design
So much chrome? It's mostly piano black trim (which i hate) and wood trim across
Source: I drive a new 2 row version of the new GC
Okay but the telluride is still using that age old speedometer. I think the interior of the L is vastly superior.
@@miketheless8167 New Tellride is all digital all the way across
@@ph00ny1 which one ? Cause I sat in a base model one and it wasn’t. Don’t get me wrong, I think it’s a fantastic car but if you’re looking to spend right under $50K for an SUV, I’d get the 2023 L Laredo. It has the lane keep assist and adaptive cruise control as standard and a better interior IN MY OPINION.
Got myself a Telluride and I love it. Comfortable ride, really good gas mileage on the highway (terrible in the city though 😔). Plenty of room in the third row. Trunk still has good space even with the third row up.
Good review. Personally I like the styling of the Jeep. The whole design just seems to flow together inside and out. Also, I like having the extra tow capability. For about $2k more on the Limited you can get many cool features like ventilated seats, surround view camera, integrated off-road cameras, a digital rear view mirror and a decent heavy duty tow package. Plus the infotainment system is one of the best compared to all brands. The Telluride is nice but I'll take the GCL!
Keyword..$2k more.
Agreed the telluride styling to me just isn’t cohesive enough it’s ugly but a great value
@@jraheemjefcoat429 keywords "4 to 5k mark-up." Ends up costing around the same
That's exactly what I did. Checked all the options, and I love it. Also got the black package.
From someone who had a Grand Cherokee I would say it’s the best truck! 🙌🏾❤️
i currently have a 2021 Telluride EX AWD and it is the best vehicle that I have owned to date. Previously had a 2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee and gave it to my daughter with 220,630 miles on it still runs great and looks good and for what I needed at the time it was a really great vehicle. I looked at Jeep again when shopping but nothing came close to the value and quality for the money then the Telluride. Sticker to sticker, the Telluride was $7,000 more than I had paid for the 2012 Jeep when it was new. The quality and build of the Jeep is great but you are gong to pay more. So it comes to your budget and overall preference. To each their own. Happy Driving whatever you choose! :-)
As always, you guys give stellar information and you’re my favorites on UA-cam! I think I’d chose the top of the line Telluride. I’m going to the website to check out the different models & packages available.
Thanks! 😁
I've been spoiled with the digital display ☺️ so the Jeep would win my vote just because of that ..🤣
No mention of the mechanical systems of the two vehicles. Jeep's Pentair engine tested and true. Hyundai engines have had severe problems, as with the transmissions that can't seem to figure out what gear to select on an incline. If you're looking to go off road at all, it's the Jeep all the way.
Just got Kia T two weeks ago. Got the EX with the white interior, and glacier pearl paint. This car is amazing. No hate on the Jeep. Just really love the Kia. Got for $5k off sticker.
Brand new t for 5k off MSRP?!!! Is that deal still avaliable?
Without having to pay a dealer mark-up, I'd take the Kia. Otherwise, a higher trimmed Jeep will do.
So you mean you would pay dealer mark up for GC?
Telluride is more valuable compared to gc.
Plenty of dealers selling the Kia @ MSRP.
@@kevincondran8032 where can I buy Telluride at MSRP? my town has markup from 5k to 10k
@@kyunghoki4678 not sure where you are. I would recommend joining the Kia Telluride Owners group on Facebook and doing a search there. I know Turner Kia in Harrisburg PA sells at MSRP to PA residents. There are others in various states that do, as well. I don’t remember who they are off the top of my head, but it is brought up fairly regularly in the group.
I went to 2 KIA dealerships this weekend in an effort to test drive a Telluride (both in NH). Based on both dealers' lack of knowledge, poor understanding of their own product, and rudeness, I'll be putting my $55K elsewhere.
Sorry to hear that. Had very similar experience shopping for a Stinger. Putting the dealership aside, I can guarantee you you won't be disappointed with the car. In this segment, you find most of the competition does things interior wise that just doesn't make sense. The Koreans really 'think' about things when designing. If you can't stand KIA, at least check out the Palisade. Maybe the Hyundai network is better there for NH.
I bought a Telluride a year ago. I am very satisfied now. I hope you buy a good car.
I’ve experienced the same. I feel that whether you’re purchasing a KIA, Toyota or Honda, etc, many of these dealerships need to go through Mercedes-Benz customer service training. Just because the customer is not purchasing a $100k vehicle, their still spending their hard earned money and they deserve to be treated right.
The Irwin dealer in Laconia has a used Telluride with 888 miles for 50k flat they told me the old owner died
@@philseung8 I hope I do too! Happy motoring!
Two things I wish you would compare / rate (for all vehicle reviews btw not just this one). First the ACC and LKA features and how well they work. And do they have lane centering and stop and go? Second, is there any ambient lighting? Would like to see the cabins in the dark. These are hot buttons these days and seldom get reviewed.
My wife has a current lease on a VW Atlas which she likes, but looking at these 2 as next options when the lease ends in a few months. I refuse to pay over MSRP and if they are still hard to get the Kia will 100% be out on that reason alone. I am leaning towards the Jeep because I know Jeeps usually lease well and that payment is a big factor of course.
I was recently in the market for a SUV and some dealers were charging up to 10k over MSRP for the Telluride. Lowest market adjustment I found was about 3k over MSRP but like you I refused to pay anything over sticker. Needless to say I went with Honda and paid slightly below MSRP.
Personally I would choose the grand Cherokee but I still love telluride
The Grand Cherokee is "the most awarded SUV ever", it's a Jeep, a living legend, that's simple. Greetings from Costa Rica.
GCL's upper trims live in a different league which Telluride can't complete, for instance air suspension, other worldly 4x4 ability, night vision and supreme audio system . To choose between lower trim of GCL and Telluride, Telluride has some advantages.
GCL's V6 engine is on Wards's 10-best engine list, and has a long traceable reliability record.
No one is talking about the more expensive models, and at 75k you might as well get an actual luxury suv
@@jlozano2014 The summit starts at 60k and is significantly nicer then any trim of the Telluride. The interior is more luxurious, seats are significantly more comfortable, has much better tech, more safety features, better 4WD, higher towing capacity, and better noise insulation. They are really trying to compete with Genesis, Acura, Volvo, and Lincoln
@@jjchockey lmao, a kia fully loaded with napa leather still cost less than a jeep. Not to mention all the safety crap is standard, with air suspension for loading!
People act like they tow things, 90% of people dont tow anything 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Chrysler seems to have more personality. It might be the right choice for a lease (as I don't trust Chrysler reliability). But for a purchase, and its warranty, must go with the Kia.
I would never buy a Chrysler/jeep without a extended warranty. I’ve had too many issues with my jeep in the past. It’s only a lease vehicle only.
I have 270,000 on the jeep i just traded in on my GCL summit reserve and are offering unlimied mile bumper to bumper warranty for 8 years.....
i didn’t even have to watch the full video to know that the King Telluride wins again!
"King" lol, wait until you catch on fire
@@telluridelover2417 its a new engine not tested yet, once the fire starts, the doors lock, even the fire men cannot break you out (if they get there in time)....nah that's a myth i haven't had those issues. Do your research you will literally see people on fire
@@telluridelover2417 go and google the most awarded SUV ever, tell me the answer.
@@telluridelover2417 i didn't say you google 1 year, I'm not sure what data you pulled here or what its related to, the most awarded SUV ever is the jeep grand Cherokee, what did you search to come up with your list direct me to it
We just bought a Telluride and should have by the end of the month. Seems like a great car for the money. Great review. 👏
Even as a traditional fan and past owner of a GC, gotta say that the Telluride wins this. With the exception of the dealer-markup (which I think Kia should get under control asap), the Telluride seems to be unbeatable at this price point. That being said, I'm waiting for a 3row crossover EV in the near future. If Kia can make a good Telluride EV they may have my money rn.
Take a look at the Palisades... Better than the telluride in my opinion plus doesn't have that mark up...
I’m so excited for my Telluride!!! 🤩
Wish getting the Kia exterior with the Jeep infotainment system was possible then I’d be sold. But I like how the Telluride stands out especially with the nightfall package. Being that my current Sorento has been good to be since 2012 I’d probably stay with Kia
The GC is nice interior wise. But it looks like every other SUV from the rear. The Telluride stands out like a boss.
The Telluride looks awful in the back with those weird-looking tail lights.
Ok, maybe, but why does the front of the Kia look like basket weaving 101?
A boss? Maybe a boss at a local McDonalds.
We chose a 2021 SX prestige nightfall (wolf grey) over the jeep gc l. Much quieter ride, more personality(curb appeal), features for the money(53k otd with dealer added accessories and warranties) , warranty, interior space and ride height(perfect for loading and unloading) and exclusivity.
C'mon, bud, it`s not a Jeep! It's just a "new kid on the block". Kia? It's a joke of a name. You are comparing a foreign brand vehicle with a funny name to the "most awarded SUV ever". It's not perfect, but it's the most popular brand in the US. That should be enough for real north americans. Aren't you? And if you're not a new kid on the block to the US, maybe a US hater mexican immigrant, are you a US citizen destroying your own industry, your own country? Can't believe it. Greetings from Costa Rica.
@@waltermeono5253 Costa Rica?Where is it? Funny to hear what you said.
@@waltermeono5253 Kia Telluride is assembled in Georgia, USA. Doesn't that help? ;-)
@@bhbae1 It's funniest you don`t know where Costa Rica is. If you don't know Costa Rica, you don't know nothing about cars. You must be a muslim... because most of americans love visiting Costa Rica.Greetings from Costa Rica.
@@leerafford7460 So you think Kia Telluride is an american brand? Are you an american citizen or an immigrant from Latin America in the US? People like you are destroying the US. US is on its way to be a "banana republic" but you americans don't realize about that. I can`t understand it. Greetings from Costa Rica.
Best comparison video I've ever seen
Thanks, we appreciate it!
I test drove one of those new Cherokees recently. I don't know why, but the seats in that thing could not properly absorb my flatulence. That would be just too big of problem on road trips for my family.
Wow
Real world testing
From that point forward telluride can be known as "the fartmobile".
The Telluride wins hands down. Some of the extra features (360 cameras, HUD, etc) the better warranty, plus the fact that Jeeps have a history of poor reliability makes this a no brainer IMHO. Ordering our Telluride next week! Also, I think it should be pointed out that the +3db difference in noise level in the Jeep interior = twice as loud. (In measuring sound levels, to make something twice as loud, it is actually a 3db increase)
Kia's aren't build to last...motors and trannys. Look at what percentage of Kia's that ever make it to 200k miles...almost zero. In my area its easy to calculate based off classifieds cars for sale on KSL.com. You can pull all used Kias with 1k to 200k miles for sale 1,024, and then all Kias with over 200k miles...only 4 . That amounts to about one third of one percent...almost nothing makes it to 200k. Toyota is about 7% and Jeep is 4%. Kia and Hyndai have the shortest life span based on real data not hyped marketing ads.
and are you paying over invoice for your Telluride?
@@gosman949 no. Below MSRP.
This comparison treats the vehicles like they’re minivans. The “suv” features like off-road capability are not even discussed. I’d like to know how these two compare if one was actually to use them as SUVs (ie light off-roading if going camping, or performance in the snow if going skiing, etc).
RIGHT, there is a video where someone took their Telluride off road into the snow with the 20/21 inch all season tires and once the tires started continually spinning the KIA shut down probably due to drivetrain temp. as a lockout to prohibit damage which is a good idea in a way. There is no use tackling heavy snow and ice with 20 inch all season tires, most reviewers admit the 20's are for looks but 18 is MUCH better for trail/offroad. NOT a good idea to constantly spin with the wrong tires but i doubt the Telluride would come close to the GC. I had a 1996 Grand Cherokee 5.2 for 12 years and always used AT tires but manufacturers realize most wont be taken offroad so they equip with all season, 2021 GC comes with 265/18 tires, i have been looking at a few Laredo models for about 35K with rebates.
Jeep is going to crush the Telluride off-road, probably not really much of a comparison really. Both should be fine for family hauling on roads in inclement weather.
There's an x factor to the JGC L that swings it in my favor. And carefully optioned with the Luxury Tech Group II, they're even closer on features and price. Good to have 2 such awesome choices! Great job as always, fellas!
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Great comparo Brothers! Nobody can deny the Telluride's value. It literally mixes luxury and mainstream with a surgical precision. Yes, the wood is "plood" and there is a "aluma-look" trim, BUT it is how they put it all together. Factoring in the standard driver assistance suite, heads up display, and other luxuries for "$50k"(more like $60k in my neck of the woods right now), it is an outstanding value. Yes, on paper, the GC is inferior. It is missing a few of the luxuries and other items this SX has, but Jeep has to do something that Kia does not: Also incorporate a real 4WD system into the vehicle. That cost has to come from somewhere, and Jeep takes it from some of the interior features. With the current pricing of the Telluride, this SX should've been measured against the Summit(not Reserve), which offers all of the features and more that this Kia has, in addition to air suspension, opt V8, etc. These two all come down to what it is important: the Kia is certainly worth a look, but at 20-30% over MSRP right now, absolutely not, whereas the GC can be purchases at MSRP or less and not be upside down severely.
And the GC is a Jeep. The Telluride is not. That’s enough for me. Greetings from Costa Rica
I wouldn’t argue about the 4WD in the Jeep. My point would be that most buyers looking at this segment as a whole aren’t interested in a “real” 4WD system. They’re not going off-roading. They want a solid, dependable, quiet, comfortable, efficient SUV for their family that does well in snow and other inclement weather.
And thats exactly why I turned right away from Kia…over selling on MSRP? For a Kia? AND none on the lot for me to test drive or see?🙄
@@TheBjjones actually, it does matter. My point is that most all-wheel drive systems, even if not as good as the Jeep’s are just fine in almost all inclement weather conditions. I live in PA. Been driving a Honda CRV for years and have NEVER had an issue in any of the snow we get. Plus, as I’ve stated before, Jeep has a horrible record when it comes to reliability. The numbers don’t lie.
@@TheBjjonesand, at the end of the day, the numbers still don’t lie. Consumer Reports’ overall score for the Grand Cherokee 63; Telluride 96. I’ll spend my hard earned money where I see fit, and you can spend yours where you see fit. Good day.
Good comparison but the scoring system is very biased, like some ppl will give points to the keep for side air vents and not to mention SUV features like towing and off-roading is important as well
Great review and I think I see a Telluride in my future!
Thanks!
I love my Telluride SX Nightfall. Super comfortable, handles well and is much quicker than expected. If you get one, I hope you enjoy yours as much as I have mine.
Kia at this point almost has to offer a 10 year warranty, I have an aunt that bought 3 Kia SUV's and after owning all 3 for less than 10 years and well under 100,000 miles. The Kia dealership told her that after 7 or 8 years of ownership that neither were worth even $3,000, all were in good condition and she didn't drive a lot. Jeeps hold their value so much better that Kia can not even come close to.
Jeep over KIA everyday! 🙌🏼👌🏼 that kia doesn’t even compare to a jeep…especially for its suspension + the air suspension! Going through water. mud. Snow mode. Sand mode. Sport.
Jeeps were military vehicles in ww1 & 2 & maybe even 3 but Ww1 for sure! & depending on the dealer you buy from, they’re always good to people. Some are just asshats! Others are amazing.
To me Jeep has a lot more road presence, brand loyalty and off road capabilities that simply put cannot be ignored... this is a proper SUV. It’s design has been around for ages and is a nod to how well it will age over time. Kia on the other hand has a design which will be overhauled as soon as new iteration hits. Cadillac has used vertical lights for ages but now has moved away. Interior design is where GCL leaves Telluride in the dust. Tablet screen design is about 12 years old and most premium automakers (Porsche Audi etc.) are moving away from it. I think Jeep nailed it. If I’m spending $50K on a vehicle I’d like a fresh design for next 10 years for sure. Telluride ride is super quiet so you gotta give it to them their
Road presence? Kia hands down. You pay 50k for this jeep and it looks no different than the average 25k jeeps. For this money I’d pick the Kia just on a reliability and warranty stand point.
@@S.0.G you could not have seen the grand Cherokee L in person. My neighbor has a grand Cherokee and my wife’s GCL towers over it…raise the air suspension up a few clicks and that thing is menacing. Being in Colorado we chose Jeep over Kia to deal with these winters…I love the look of the tellurides tho
For the price point and best bang for your buck, Telluride!
@Joseph Payton yep, they're going for MSRP or above USED!
@Joseph Payton and there's a reason for it.... All cars are like that...just bought a 2022 Honda Civic and paid MSRP...no discount.. If your getting a discount now, it just means the cars not as desirable..
@Joseph Payton yep. All of the SXs come in pre-sold. Insanity!
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With the current markups on the Telluride, they are selling for almost the same prices as the Summit. At the price point the Summit is the better buy. More features, towing capability, and off-road capability. The Telluride does have the advantage of longer warranty though.
Not sure which lots you are looking at or at all but you’re not going to find a 4x4 GC L Summit configured for less than $65K. A few months ago I heavily favored the Grand Cherokee L until I drove one. The engine lunges like crazy on the L with the 3.6. By the way Chrysler is the one playing the markup addendum game at a lot of the dealers not Kia. This publisher is a little out of touch with the Grand Cherokee L. A fully loaded limited trim will run you close to $56K just on sticker with the Luxury Tech Group that gives you ventilated front seats and some other stuff. I would never do business with a dealer that charges markup on a KIA vehicle for crying out loud. I just ordered my 22’ Telluride SX Prestige AWD with nappa leather for right around $48,5K. There are plenty of Kia dealers around without markup. Given the $7K price difference between loaded Telluride and low trim Limited GC L I’ll take the Telluride any day. You have to go up over $60K Overland to get all the off road features that aren’t even available on Limited trim at all.
@@dadmachines you are still not prudent buying at sticker. It will be dropping soon as more competition enters the market.
@@gosman949 That's been the theory for two years now. Hasn't happened yet. People are trading theirs in and getting what they paid or more. The waiting lists are still 3+ months long just to place an order at many dealerships. Kia's production is probably maxed out at 110,000 units per year so I don't see the supply/demand ratio changing anytime soon.
@@lukejones5870 Where would that be? Because here in NYC they are adding 10k to the MSRP. So the one you paid will cost 58k. Overland is costing that....
@@dadmachines Talked to the dealer and he said because of Covid production is slow. They order 100 but get 25. While Jeep they have a lot of inventory and hence at this moment they are not marking up over msrp like Kia is doing. I'm not paying 10k over the MSRP.
Awesome video, I’d personally purchase the Telluride, mainly because of FCAs notoriously bad reliability!😸
@@eugenepiurkowski6026 I had issues with a Chrysler vehicle in the past, but Consumer Reports continuously ranks Jeep among the lowest brands for reliability
Less money, more features, more space, better looking, reliability and warranty, yeah, Telluride 🏆🏅🥇🏆🏅 hands down.
Better looking? I think that would go to the Jeep for me
I agree with the less money and warranty but you smoking on the rest of that.
Better looking where the telluride is the ugliest suv on the market right now
@@gbaby4rb64 Telluride has more space as shown in this video. Plus, Jeep's track record on reliability is a laughing stock
@@gbaby4rb64 Jeep's reliability is in the toilet. Hopefully having Stellantis buy them out will fire all the engineers
I’m buying a grand Cherokee this week cause if the looks but Kia with that warranty is what keeps it ahead for a family car you want reliability
The Jeep is beautiful on the outside. Sadly it has less features for a higher price than the Telluride. One minor item I have noticed lacking in some three row crossovers is ceiling air conditioning vents in the rear. Since cold air naturally sinks downward, the ceiling location creates a more comfortable experience for rear passengers. The Telluride has them and the Jeep doesn't. As much as I love the looks of the Jeep, the Telluride is a better value in my opinion. Thanks for the great comparison review. You guys give the best reviews!!!
Glad you enjoyed the video! Thanks 😊
Does the Jeep not have air vents? I know the Kia does
@@coolyjavon591 Don't see any ceiling vents in the Jeep on this video
Because the Jeep has the in the c pillars which is much better then in the ceiling. The Jeep also has more features then the Telluride like air suspension, night vision, and massage seats with significantly more adjustability. The Jeep may be more expensive but it should be because it is a nicer vehicle in pretty much every regard. It competes better with the Aviator, GV80, XC90, and Q7 vs the Telluride, Pilot, Highlander.
Good details and comparison , but there are some things left out. For instance the Telluride is no way comparable to the Jeep in off road, or towing capacity. American Cars dont always match feature for feature at similar trim levels, but they are getting better. The Jeep aims for towing and true off road market, not just elevated all wheel. I looked at the telluride but it can only tow 5000 lbs, meaning I can't tow my own trailer. My Jeep (third one I've owned) can tow 7200 lbs, and hit off road areas the Telluride couldnt touch. Not trying to poopoo the Kia but for many jeep owners they buy them for more than electronics and features. I have a 2017 GC Overland w/every option possible, and got it for same pricing as the current telluride so got a good deal. Thx for the info.. :)
Both are excellent vehicles. But there is only one Jeep.
And only one tanks in value after leaving the lot.
@@zimman56 yes, my current 2018 Jeep is worth more than double now, and my 2022 has just arrived!😉
Kia Telluride needs wider rims. Maybe 8.5 as opposed to the narrow 7.5
why
@@MacSaab93 Looks better
@@jimmyr1683 but they will be noisy!
@@gosman949 and cost even more to replace
I can say that the power train in the Jeep has been around for a very long time. It has proven to be very reliable. To me, the rear wheel drive architecture lends to a better and more reliable SUV. I know that Durangos are capable of 27 mpg on the highway at interstate speeds and not hypermiling. I'd go for the GC personally but the Telluride seems like a solid choice
Warranty of Kia what drove me to get the Telli..we had excellent warranty experience with our old kia forte coup..never had those good warranty on our ford..
recently test drove the telluride, palisade, and GC L. The Telluride felt somehow "cheaper" inside than the other 2. Not by a lot but worth noting. I think the palisade interior felt the most premium and comfortable. The GC leather felt more premium in the seats but, overall, the interior felt like it landed in between the other 2.
In the current market, we ended up going with the jeep GC L Limited (the one in this video). The current mark-ups on the the kia and hyundai, due to their popularity, put the prices far about the GC. That being said, I don't think you can really go wrong with any of the 3
Hello gentlemen Drew and Mason. That's good that in addition to doing vehicle review videos you guys do vehicle comparison videos as well. Not a lot of them, but only a select few of You Tube vehicle reviewers do a vehicle comparison video. When I saw the title of this video w/o starting to watch it yet, I had a general idea that the Kia Telluride would receive more points over the Jeep Grand Cherokee L based on what you guys said in a prior video about favorite SUV. Sure enough after watching the video the Telluride received more points. This comparison video between the Jeep Grand Cherokee L and Kia Telluride was based on price points. However, myself and others think the comparison should've been based on trim level tier ranking. If it was done like that maybe the Jeep Grand Cherokee L would've gotten more points for the win or it would've been a tie between the two vehicles. The SX trim in this video for the Kia Telluride is the fourth tier trim which is also the high tier trim. As for the Jeep Grand Cherokee L the trim level used in this video for the comparison was the Limited trim which is the third tier trim. That's the third tier trim out of the six tier trims available. Since the SX trim for the Telluride is the top of the line trim which is also the fourth tier trim, that trim level should've been used to compare the fourth tier Overland trim for the Jeep Grand Cherokee L. If not that, then the third tier EX trim for the Telluride in comparison to the third tier Limited trim for the Jeep Grand Cherokee L. So, the comparison should've been trim level tier ranking order to trim level tier ranking order. As for the Jeep Grand Cherokee L in the Limited trim it's good to note some advantages for it over the Telluride in the SX trim. The Jeep has active grille shutters, has a sensor to alert the driver if the hood is open while driving, more USB ports (6 USB ports, 6 USB-C ports), has a larger fuel tank at 23 gallons while the Kia Telluride has 18.8 gallons and greater towing capacity at 6,200 pounds with the V6 engine while the Telluride has towing capacity at 5,000 pounds with its V6 engine. Due to the fact that both of these vehicles are SUVs, the one thing they must do w/o hesitation is off roading. The Jeep Grand Cherokee L would do a better job maneuvering through the off roading courses with more ground clearance and a more advanced four wheel drive system. I know you guys are in preparation on making a comparison video between the new generation Toyota Highlander and new generation Nissan Pathfinder. Between those two vehicles I think the advantage goes to the Pathfinder. More third row seating space and more space behind the third row. Also, it would do a better job off roading. Should be an interesting matchup between those two vehicles when the time comes for the comparison video.
Different manufacturers assign different features at different levels. A loaded limited is fairly on point with a loaded SX prestige so why would you expand the goal post per se and use different trims where price is way out of whack and are no longer looking at apples to apples.
@@lukejones5870 I already know manufacturers assign different features to other trim levels. We all know that. Everybody knows that. That wasn't the purpose for my message post. The goal post wasn't expanded. All I said was to keep the trim levels in line with each other. Simple as that. So, in comparison if a third tier trim level from one vehicle is used that means a third tier trim level from another vehicle should be used when competing with each other. In reference to overall fairness that would be the way for comparison. Why choose a lower trim with one vehicle and choose a higher trim with another vehicle? Why do that? In general the Jeep Grand Cherokee L has six trim levels and the Kia Telluride has four trim levels. The SX trim for the Telluride is the "top of the line" trim while for the Jeep Grand Cherokee L the Limited trim is not the top of the line. Not the top of the line due to being the third tier in order. In the trim level lineup for the Jeep the trim level that's fourth in line is the Overland trim. Just like how the SX trim is fourth in line which is also the top of the line trim for the Telluride, the Overland trim which is also fourth in line for the Jeep Grand Cherokee L should've been used for comparison. Should've been used because for the Overland trim level that still wouldn't be their highest trim level or "top of the line" trim because there are two other trims after that. As I mentioned in my initial post the Limited trim for the Jeep Grand Cherokee L has the advantage over the SX trim for the Kia Telluride because it has active grille shutters, a larger fuel tank, a tighter turning radius, front facing camera, interior camera, would do a way better job maneuvering off roading courses and other stuff I said which should've gotten mentioned in the video.
I believe most people would be shopping for a certain price pointl as opposed to a trim level. I would think that most would buy a lower priced vehicle, especially 5k -10k cheaper, if both were comparably equipped.
@@markmoody3683 They'll be shopping at a certain price point in some cases and also shopping for features/comfort as well in other cases. Years back to a few years ago some to most people had price points as a top priority concern. However, these days the levels of concern about price points went down a little bit because a variety of payment options are available and a laundry list of incentives are there to take advantage of.
The Jeep's 4-wheel drive system is superior, which is very important for those living in states with lots of snow. Also, the GC can be had with a V-8.
Yeah but the Jeep is a Jeep. It’s supposed to be known for that. Instead it’s now got independent front and rear suspension. It’s unreliable, dainty, and the utter representation of society as a whole. The Kia is a Kia. A brand not know for its off roading, but this telluride can come pretty damn close to keeping up with it. If you want a 4x4 SUV that’s good on road go with a 4runner. It’s the only one left in it’s class. Or get wrangler or a bronco. But my point is that it’s a sad day when a Kia beats a Jeep at its own game
You’re unlikely to find the V8 on anything except for the Summit on much of any lot. Even then the V8 will be rare to find on the lot with a Summit. Best bet for a V8 on the lot is on a summit reserve but I haven’t heard of many dealers carrying a Summit Reserve on the lot.
To get the V8 on an Overland you are probably looking at a special order subject to a sizable non refundable deposit with addendum markup. I don’t think the V8 is available on limited and lower trims so you will be doing very well to get 4x4 V8 GCL for less than $65K. For 65K+ I’d be looking at Audi Q7 3.0 Premium Plus or Mercedes GLE 450….. you decide
@@lukejones5870 to get a V8 for overlanding you’ll have to get a 4th Gen 4runner or a Landcruiser or a 1st Gen tundra. Oops, those are the good vehicles sorry
I’ll put out that I live in an extremely hilly area with steep grades and heavy snowfall and the Telluride holds its own quite well. I’ve owned many Jeeps and Audis and I don’t feel less secure driving the Telluride in snowy weather.
I purchased my 2021 Palisade Limited FWD in June and even though I purchased it for only $450 below MSRP, looking at the Jeep Grand Cherokee L makes it look like a BARGAIN. The Palisade/Telluride in comparable models to the Jeep Grand Cherokee L give you far more for much less. Unless you TRULY need an off-road beast, the Palisade or Telluride will be your hands down winner on features for the money, ever time. I’m definitely enjoying my decision.
Is the Telluride a rough ride?
Is it a rough ride?
@@minisurfbanana …..Not at all. I changed the rims to a 8.5” wide rim with the same tire size and it’s made the ride even better, when it wasn’t bad to start. Mine came with Hankook tires, which I don’t like and I switched to the Michelin CrossClimate2’s, which are fantastic tires.
That Kia is 🔥!!✌🏽
The GC looks better imo. I'm waiting for the 2 row... I dont need 3 rows... but now im debating on whether to get the GC or an MB GLB.
Both are pretty good choices but a fully loaded GLB will be more expensive than a fully loaded GC L
I think the Jeep is a bit overpriced since it is the second from base trim. If the price was more similar to the Telluride’s base, I would really be impressed. I agree that the Telluride is better, but I think that the Palisade is the best in the segment.
Yes, they took off many features from the Palisade including the 12.3 inch instrument cluster that you get even in a 18K Hyundai Elantra. It's only there in the top-trim Sorento. But the Telluride handles better while the Palisade has softer springs tuned for comfort.
I went to the dealer here in NYC, and they was marking up the Telluride for 10k. Meaning the SX is about 60k, same with Palisade calligraphy about 60k. For that price is better to get yourself a Grand Cherokee L Overland which is about the same price Telluride and Palisade are selling right now in NYC. This video does the Limited because is in price competition with the Telluride, but with the mark up of 10k here in NYC it is competing with Overland. And at that price I will buy the Overland.
I ran into the same issue. Was checking out the palisade and the Telluride top trim packages and they had a $10,000 MSRP mark up on them. I ended up with a grand Cherokee L Overland and couldn’t be more happy.
@@luey53 Be truthful what you really paid. If you get the Pro Tech and Luxury Tech packages and the off road badge on the Overland you’re looking at $65K and it’s hardly an overland without getting those packages. $68K if you want to get the overland spec’ed with V8. Kia’s Genesis GV80 is of better value and luxury at that price point.
I'll take the Kia Telluride! The new Jeep GCL interior is nice with some luxury components. However, the styling is not youthful to me compare to the Telluride. Telluride these days is getting a lot of attention by turning heads with their Range Rover-like design. If I'm not mistaken, I gotta pay $70k to get rear ventilated seats on the Jeep GCL. While the Kia Telluride offers it for nearly $20k less. And Kia has the best powertain warranty in the market. And let this be clear, Kia is now a brand that deserve recognition. They are Korean cars that is designed and built by Germans who had worked with Audi/VW, BMW, Porsche, just to name a few. So save me with the who-ha comments about their reliability for those who are stuck in a 90s time warp.
61k but your point is still valid
How do you choose the top end kia and the mid grade jeep . Keep it 💯and go premium for both brands and perform the test. Might wamna throw some off road testing in there as well.
Given that the scores are very close.I have to go with Kia given the very generous warranty as well as 360 camera, headsup display,turn signal cameras,power folding mirrors and lower price tag.The Cherokee held its own however it couldn’t take the barrage of punches that the telluride threw at it ,so the Kia gets the technical knockout.
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The jeep literally has every option you just listed. He compared a base model to the top trim kia....
@@setdwoo That's what you get for the same price. If you want to price match a $80k car, you have the Genesis GV80 if you want to compare features. The top trim of the Cherokee L is in the BMW X7 territory, not to mention Jeep's unreliability and lower warranty. I had FCA (now Sellantis) cars in the past and they always had some problem or the other.
@@soumikcom not sure what reliability issues you had but the v6 and v8 versions are well proven. I have had 2 JGC now. The first has an unlimited mile unlimited year bumper to bumper warranty from FCA. 275k miles and still running strong. My second has an unlimited mile 8 year b2b warranty. I feel like it is disingenuous to compare vastly different trim levels. The GV80 is a very good comparison. The kia not so much.
Imagine how good the Jeep Grand Cherokee is gonna look with a 2 inch lift and bigger tires
Would you please compare the Grand Cherokee L with the Ford Explorer? I bet people will cross shop these alot.
Consumer reports : Telluride 97. Highest vehicle rated across all segments. Exploder a whopping 42!
Love the Telluride , family members owned a pair GC limiteds and they were always in the shop for water pumps, transfer cases this that or something. This review was great and maybe the past Jeep issues have been addressed . Hyundai/Kia appears to have had the same prior Jeep issues and corrected them along with a very impressive warranty. The Jeep is always impressive and hopefully the Italians let what made an American icon remain a icon. I would still purchase the Kia , for the past few years nothing has toppled it as the best 3rd row SUV not even Jeep so far.
i have owned 6 jeep GCs and never had any issues. maybe your family beats then up and doesnt maintain them????
jeeps are very reliable, my family's GC is over 6 years old and its still running with no issues besides the ignition which needed replacing
I love pick the Grand Jeep Cherokee! It’s very nice! I really love it
You say they have the same driver seat controls, however you did not point out the Telluride does have one more important one which is the extended leg support adjust. You even see the button when you are comparing them.
In my opinion the Kia is a mini van that can power the rear wheels in a slippery situation. I've driven both vehicles, and for me the clear choice was the GC L. I pull a boat and need the higher tow rating, I will do some minor off road driving at times, and I still want a luxury vehicle to take my customers out in. The Kia really rolled/leaned a lot in turns, and I found the interior to be nice, but just not as nice as the GC. I've reserved the GC L Overland with the technology package, and it should be here in a couple of weeks.
Check out the Overland model of the Jeep Grand Cherokee. More expensive? Yes! But 10x better interior and features than the Grand Cherokee Limited OR the Kia Telluride. Massage seats? Yep! Digital mirror? Yep! Heads up display? Yep! Plus you get that 360 degree camera view that was missing in the Limited when doing this review. Hope that helps!