Windows95man Is No Joke
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- Опубліковано 26 бер 2024
- There comes a time in a man's life when he can no longer deny his nature, and I'm a man who is easily baited by silly songs. Do you have a complex and challenging piece of musical art? I'll get to it if I have time. Do you have a song where a man runs around bottomless until the stage manager forces him to put on a pair of jean cutoffs? I'm going to use vacation days to research it with the intensity of Jake Gyllenhaal hunting the Zodiac killer. You know that meme where Elmo goes face first into the pile of cocaine? That was me, with this song. That's who I am. And if I'm not alright, tell me why do I feel so beautiful tonight? - MB
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Wait, you didn't know Freestyler? I thought that was a general classic
Right?!
It is :D And actually the most viewed Finnish song of all time on YT, as far as I know (?), apart from Sandstorm maybe. (If only Darude's Eurovision entry had been anyway similar to that!!)
And it still slaps so damn hard!
Yeah, that was unexpected
Maybe only in Europe
As a professional IT technician, finally I feel well represented at Eurovision. An epic analysis for an epic song!
I wouldn't say that Finns are actually _happy_ to pay taxes. It is just seen as a duty, and Finns take duties seriously.
Exactly, that was very well put
That kind of depends. We have people who are indeed happy such as myself, and some game company millionaires who recognize the role of the society for their wealth. I'm happy to pay almost 15k in taxes because this welfare state still pays my kiddo's meds that are also almost 15k per annum. But I would be happy to pay if she didn't have juvenile rheumatoroid arthiritis. That's kind of the societal contract around here. I pay high-ish taxes, and I get to enjoy a publicly build frisbee golf parks, libraries, health care (and also that for my loved ones!) and fairly good public transit. To name just a few.
It's easy to be happy to pay your taxes when you can trust your government to spend them properly.
I haven’t seen people talk about it but I am quite convinced that him emerging from the big egg in the beginning is a Kalevala reference from the Finnish myth of how the world was created & the singer having flown sleeves and moving them in “birdlike” movements in the beginning is then corresponding to the great bird that brought the egg.
I think I heard that somewhere and it's wild :D So, in a way, if you combine all the artists that wore clothes with prominent sleeves with this entry, you get to a higher plane of meaning? (Kaarija, Go_A singer Kateryna, Baby Lasagna, Nina Kraljic, Dana International, Netta... everyone with bell sleeves...).
I'm so happy there are people who actually can appreciate this entry, instead of calling it just a joke, "trash" or whatever!! It seems (most of) Europe has entirely lost its sense of humour, at least what comes to Eurovision, and prefer dull, pretentious songs they call "quality" or "art"... 😔 Having some humour in an entry does NOT make it "just a joke", the same way as comedy film directors are not called "joke directors", just for an example.
I was surprised by the overrall reaction to this I've seen on the internet, I watched their performance and loved it, I couldn't believe how many people want this to not qualify.
Okay, but isn't the beauty of Eurovision that there's something for everyone? I don't like Finland this year, I don't get it (I'm Team Croatia). But you do the same thing you criticize in reverse, by calling songs dull and pretentious. It's okay for you to not like songs, but tearing them down so you feel better about an entry you like is exactly what you don't like in others.
@@ameliab9391 I know, right?! ;) But of course, in Eurovision it doesn't matter who hate an entry, only who love it, as you can't actually downvote an entry ;)
@@Tollkirschenkind I'm not "tearing down" anyone, only responding to loads of hateful commentary I've seen here on YT about this. I sure have every right to voice a differing opinion from those I refer to, or do you wish to say only they have the right to theirs..? (BTW, Croatia is fine, a great song, only it's somewhat copying last year's Finnish entry, much more than Windows95 man does, but oh well.)
@@florenna please read again what I wrote. You tear down other songs by calling them dull and pretentious. How is this any better than when people say Finland is just a joke? Please explain that to me. You have of course every right to call songs dull, but if you do this, everyone else also has the right to call the Finnish song dumb.
Again: if you love that song and don't want other people to criticize it, that's fine! But if you go and call other songs pretentious, you're doing the exact same thing.
Might be one of my favorite Overthinking episodes, had great time watching it! Thanks!!
I really loved this analysis! I do think it's interesting to point out that it's very easy to interpret the song's lyrics through a queer lens as well - "Call me what you may/See if I care, see me slay", "I am the king, I am the queen", and "Is there something wrong with the way I look?/Is there something wrong with who I am?/If I'm not alright, tell me why do I/Feel so beautiful tonight?" very much read like a message of queer liberation to me, and even if it's not intentional by the writers I think it's really fun!
It’s years like this that reminds me of my teen years when a friend visited Finland and she never wanted to come back. Finland, you’re just cool
The first thing I thought of when I saw this was Swedish comedian/singer Mats Söderlund aka Günther - Ding Dong Song (You touch my tralala) (2004). It was EXTREMELY popular as a proto-meme song. He was incredibly well known to people around the same age as Teemu and I, to the point that Günther was invited to play at Yale. I'm completely serious. Günther & The Sunshine Girls also entered Melodifestivalen in 2006. Tapping into millennial nostalgia for 2000s nostalgia of the 1990s was a really clever way to go for the character.
Yeah, I had the same thought.
As a Finn, I was quite disappointed when this unexpectedly won UMK against my favourite Sara. But it has been growing on me. I also think it has the best production value out of all the UMK songs. And this video made me like the entry even more
The same, in fact "disappointed" doesn't cover it, I was devastated... But quicky got over it, and just a few days after UMK I was completely behind this ;) I did love the production & staging of Paskana too, though, IMO it was the best staging in UMK this year (and everyone I know feels the same, though here on YT I've seen lot of pepole say the opposite, for some reason).
Guys! The level of research and the smart references you put in every single video are insane! I ❤ your work!
When your taxes are seen as an investment in the society, and you feel it pays dividends, then paying taxes are cool
And taxation in the US isn't even that low, considering what little they get in return.
9:17 this blew my tiny brain it really is a small world
Is it me, or is the Finnish IRS a bit of a troll? How epic is the collaboration of a guy that follows the 'no rules' rule, and a tax company? Paying taxes is basically a first rule of owning a business, or a property, or anything. In fact, you get yourself in a messy sauce with the state if you follow the 'no rules' rule when it comes to paying taxes. 😂 Whoever thought of this conundrum had a serious partiality to dark humor.
as a finn, i follow the Finnish Tax Administration in all of their socials, because they have the most entertaining social media presence i have seen from a public office. their summer employee recruiting campaign this year that was modeled after Temptation Island took off everywhere. total troll stuff, works like a charm.
@@kaiknlast
That is just hilarious! Share the knowledge Finnish people! We need some enlightenment worldwide!
Did they really not mention that the "Epic Tax Guy" is also based on the Eurovision meme, closing the full circle once again in this huge mess of red string on a board
@melody-of-music oooooooooooh I just got that!
Can I pay my taxes to Finland instead of the IRS?
I love how everyone always throws a blanket statement that Finland's tax rate is 43% when it is in fact not. The tax rates are progressive and if you earn A LOT then yeah your tax rate is 43% but for example mine is ~20% which INCLUDES health care, unemployment insurance and pension etc., and if you're not completely math illiterate then you realize that it's less than USA. If you guys pay 24% tax which doesn't even include your health insurance, then let me tell you, you're getting a bad deal.
Yeah I was surprised that Dan did a bit of a lazy American/Fox News take on the Finnish taxation system, which is actually extremely progressive.
TIL that the singer is Bandit's voice actor in Finland. As an aussie, thats an extra 12 points
As a parent I’m right there with you. He’s my dad role model. -MB
Actually, he's not Bandit's voice actor. However Henri voices many other Bluey characters, including Stripe, Rad and Pat.
Yes, he is.
This may well be the most overthought entry you've ever done. Epic video.
The 43% tax rate is actually not right. The Highest tax rate right now is indeed 44%, but you only pay that for the part of your income that is over 150 000 euros, which is not true for most people. The less you earn, the smaller your total tax rate is. I, for example earn about 45 000 euros a year and my tax rate 19% with all deductions included. And the median total income tax rate is indeed 19,97%. That highest tax bracket rate is often used as a propaganda tool by the Republicans in the US to make it look like we have to pay huge taxes, because it fits their narrative.
Also, the American tax rates do not include their insane cost of healthcare on top. Americans (well, except the ultra-rich maybe) are not getting a good deal at all
There's also plenty of confusion about what *marginal tax* means, or how tax brackets work. Like, if you are in the tax bracket with marginal tax of 44%, people think the tax you pay is 44%, while in actuality you'd only pay that 44% out of the income that you would earn *_beyond_* your income, which obviously isn't even possible.
You're actually paying more like 23%, and that's before any possible deductions.
EDIT: correction, I was looking at old info. The bracket of 44% starts now at €150 000 (which is a lot higher than it was), so if you just about get there, your actual tax is around 33%, not 23%.
I get the feeling that Eurovision amuses you guys much more than the Europeans.
And I find it very interesting to watch your videos.
Awaiting for your next overthinking.
0:42 your American is showing. The beauty of Eurovision is knowing that culture is meant to be shared, let's keep it that way.
white american male complaining about cultural appropriation lol
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I had no idea there was so much history behind the artist wow
14:55 That is absolutely *not* our tax rate. That's just the highest bracket.
I was thinking it was the total tax rate, with VAT, special goods taxes, property tax etc all put together at first, but sadly that's way over 50 %, almost 60.
@@zzpazii was thinking that as well.
@@zzpazi That sort of "total tax rate" only applies to people who spend 100% of their money on specific products and services with the specific tax rates. Depending on how you fenagle them, you could claim pretty much any percentage accurate and give a truthful example that supports it.
A median Finn pays about 22% taxes, and if they spend 100% of what is left every month to products with 24% VAT (the standard, non-reduced rate for products - no investing and the like that have reduced/taxfree rates), they pay just barely over 40% of their income to taxes. Property taxes and such, if they have any, would bring it up a bit more, depending on the value of the property.
Thank you for the hard work of overthinking this :) This was really interesting.
Hey I'm from Spain and we loved Eleni Foureira. Now we sing "Fuego, fuego" any time a conversation revolves around heat or fire😂
Also I'm a 90's kid and I clearly remember Freestyler. It was the bomb in my country, too. Probably in every European country. Iconic song from those times.
Windows95man's look inspired by Pamela Anderson in Raw Justice? Why not? She used to be quite popular in Finland, and has some family roots in Finland, as well.
Austin Powers? Yes, but I'm also thinking of a scene in The Naked Gun before that. A 1990's Finnish comedy series Kummeli also had a similar sketch.
Ehh, what?! Nothing to do with Pamela Anderson 🤣
@@elvinam888 It was in answer to 3:00 - 3:30 of this video. I think W95m is open-minded enough (Why not? No Rules!) to take influences even from female action stars, if it comes to that. And the snipet of Pamela Anderson we saw kind of reminded W95m coming out of the egg, though reversed.
How could you leave out from this video Microsoft official twitter's response to Windows95 man's new pixelated design 😆
Microsoft couldn't pass on this opportunity to advertise Win95 one last time! 😂
I have missed that. What did they say? Where?
@@patrickuotinen Microsoft saw their pixelated T-Shirt and replied saying we've fixed it for you (or something along the lines) and put an image where only the Win95 logo was sharp and the rest of the image is blurry. 😊
Edit: Was an insta post and reply, found the traces in the "red" coloured "it" on the eurovision channel, the title of the post "Windows fixed it"
@@Eva-mp7xg OK, thanks!
YES the planet of the bass factor is HUGE this year im glad someone finally mentioned it!!! i think it actually presents the strongest in the intro to europapa.
I understand why taxes aren't popular in the us, cause most of the money goes to the millitary and even though your goverment spends the most in the world on healcare you have to pay $10000's for lifesaving surgery and go bankrupt, because you would have died if you didn't get the surgery.
In the US it is also very easy to see things that paying the taxes aren't fixing. Potholes, homelessness, medical debt due to no fault of the patient, etc. That erodes the public's trust on whether paying the taxes is worth it.
I could be wrong, but I believe American's would be more happy to pay taxes if paying them took care of the problems people see in the US. After all, true anarchists - who believe there should be no government, law, taxes, etc - are quite rare.
@@TheRawrnstuff They would, example from Finland where I live. From what I know we are pretty happy to pay taxes, and my highschool social science teacher showed us the math on how paying the Finnish taxes is actually a pretty good deal, also if you make under 10000€ a year here you don't even pay taxes.
What a brilliant video, thank you, you did so much research that there was hardly any time left to overthink 😍
I don't actually think this is a new "type" for Finland, like Windows95man being the Käärijä 2.0 or something. Sara Siipola's Paskana was the front runner in Finland for this year. But her live performance left a lot of people wanting and it actually seemed a bit too much like Loreen. In comparison, Windows95man surprised with an entertaining life performance and Henri had pretty good vocals. So people voted for Windowa95man. But I don't think we saw this coming really or consciously decided to send a performance similar to Käärijä.
WOW! This was Epic. Super detailed and told interestingly and funnily. Must have been a huge research project. I learned a lot. Such a gem. The only thing that made me feel bad is that we are no longer an epic tax country. We are paying less taxes now, which obviously makes me sad!
Thank you for sharing this amazing origin story ❤
As always your video has surprised me with some great info.
I 'kin love this series
Hi Matthew, I just love your videos. They are the best content about Eurovision, the most creative, funny and smart! Hope you will someday do a video about Portugal ... I'll be very glad to help you if you have any questions about my country. Best regards from Porto 🇵🇹
About Finnish festivals - I would say that Jysäri and Flow cater to VERY different audiences. So in Flow 2015 context, 90's dance music was very much not cool 😄 Regardless of there being a separate festival for it.
Yup, and at least in my perspective Flow is very well known festival but Jysäri isn't. At least I hadn't even heard about it before.
It's not a joke because it's an absolute banger of a song. It's pure 90s eurodance and I'm down for it.
Windows95man also got a lot of exposure in Finland from performing in the Helsinki new year's show shown on the main TV channel multiple times. That's where I first heard of him. John Cena also posted a picture of him on Instagram years ago.
A little misunderstanding there. Maybe some Finns already commented but he was not either forbidden or forced to wear the jorts. He was actually born from the egg (thus "naked") and after a while he got his jorts and he's good to go! Kind of grew up. So all this is from an old Finnish saga Kalevala, where this guy is born from a bluebill's egg. Henri would be the bluebill obviously. With his feathers.
Thank you, seriously. I read the news, I watch youtube, I am depressed and sure we all are doomed, and here you are - smart, deep, funny, in some parallel universe where we all can be ok 🥹
Found a picture of myself at the champagne bar at Flow Festival 2015 but there were so many DJs doing short sets I don't remember Windows95man in particular!
Okay, I've been interested in Finland since Lordi won Eurovision. You may have convinced me I need to move there.
Thanks for this. The song really hits that 90s nostalgia. Too many pop culture references. Henri himself has a very boy band-y voice.
"Cultural appropriation" is something we've been doing for millenia in Europe... the Greeks keep telling everyone that ancient Romans stole their culture, modified it and then spread to the rest of Europe... which is more or less accurate. Then again after the Renaissance all Europeans studied ancient Latin and Greek and the built their monuments in a "Neoclassic" style. Nobody has ever batted an eyelid: why should we start feeling ashamed about it now? Plus all Mediterranean peoples have been sharing the same little sea for so long... we all feel like cousins. Sorry if this sounds weird to Americans... but it is pretty normal to a lot of us.
"Cultural appropriation" is a very woke concept in itself, anyway.
It's one of these well- intended ideas that don't really grasp how living next to each other works.
Ironically, it’s the same Greeks that keep accusing the North Macedonians of cultural appropriation for using the symbols of Alexander the Great… 😂
Props for extensive digging 🎉
If I wasn’t convinced before, this video really proved you guys to be absolute overthinkers!
Thanks for a great introduce to Windows 95 Man. Even as a Finn I learnt new stuff.
What a great video! Subscribing 👍
Love to see this appreciation for Teemu! All my votes are going to Finland again this year! Also, I've been mentioning Planet of the Bass a *ton* when explaining No Rules' appeal, and it is so validating to see someone else be on the same page!
And he played as dj on a after party to some eurovison in sweden
Really enjoyed this to get to the roots of windows95 man❤️🇫🇮
Mama, kudos for saying that. For spilling.
Hell yeah.
Amazing video!
We are the winners was absolute the best Eurovision entry ever, I love it
You want a Finnish horror movie? Rare Exports is a horror movie that started as a short film, where the idea was that Santa Clauses are actually a brutal flesh eating monsters that just happen to look like sympathetic old men, so experienced Finnish hunters capture them and sell them for Christmas purposes. (The Finnish canon says Santa Claus actually lives in Korvatunturi, not North Pole.)
The finish Gunter!
I'd like to point out that even if Finland is quite a small country when it comes to population, festivals like Jysäri and Flow definitely cater to completely different audiences with different expectations when it comes to music. That doesn't stop folks from having fun though. Flow can feel a bit pretentious when you look at the artist roster, but people are people. I'd say you'd find the same reaction to 90's dance classics anywhere, where people have had a relation to that music in their youth.
If he had chosen the OS/2 Warp promo t-shirt instead, he could die a legend.
Would love to see a video on "Euro-pa-pa" by Joost Klein! I read somewhere that it's meant to be a song about European unity but he also has his own story in there; I would love more expansion on this! All the best from Iowa
I have to say, you go way (too) hard and deep
"daisy dukes so high their pockets are a-peeking"...
The Deadly Prey poster is work of art... AI art before AI existed!
It's about the time!
finland having a tax rate of 43% is not true. Tax rate is progressive, the more you earn the more you pay in taxes. Mine for example is 20-25% depending on the year.
Same, I earn little more than the average and my tax rate is 23%. I also am very grateful as a special needs child’s mother that all her care, hospital visits, therapy, special school and medication have cost us less that 500€ during all these years.
I guess We also pay lot of taxes in stuff, food and alcohol. So i was thinking maybe that is also included in this 🤷♀️
Kokonaisveroaste on eri asia kuin tulovero.
Tottakai, mutta en huomannut että hän olisi puhunut erityisesti pelkästään tuloverosta. 🤷♀️
@@norax3212 "Tax rate" = veroaste
"Income tax rate" = tuloveroaste
Btw, Teemu, as a dj, have been playing also Esc hits on his sets.
Love love love the video (and Windows95man) but please don't use AI art. ):
Windows Vista Man also ran in the competition, but the whole show was a giant flop
Can we please have a Silvia night analysis? The money I would pay
I could have never listened ANYTHING Eurovision had to offer... but somehow this video was... ok... (take it as a win, and don´t Overthink It)
How could a guy's passionate art and love for music be a joke..? He couldn't wear some clearly definable undies, because they aren't part of his outfit. So in his origin story stage show he's not really nude, but rather shown without his shorts. You didn't find action packed denim in Chuck Norris' and Jean-Claude Van Damme's films..? From Finnish films 'Pahat pojat' comes to mind: "PAHAT POJAT Official trailer Solar Films". Speaking of stage looks, how about this guy's look?: "2. Maanantai - Mixet tahdo olla mun kaa". What's said in the song is: "Why don't you want to be with me, even though i love your Levi's jeans?". Käärijä's 'Cha Cha Cha' is basically a revisit to Fredi's 'Pump Pump': "Finland - Eurovision 1976 - Fredi & The Friends - Pump-Pump". And of course there's Finnish horror movies. Many many horror movies. A few at least: "SKELETON CREW - Movie Trailer".
Hey First off entertaining video
Second
The ring light scene seems to me more like a reference to the Daylight music video by the No Angels
Would also be a nice lil nod to some older Eurovision contestants
Every time you say "ukkeli" I keep hearing "ukulele" and it's confusing my brain XD
I really need some Windows95Man soda.
To pay 43% tax here you need to be earning over 115k€ per year. 60k is 33%, 40k is 26%, 30k is 20% and 20k is 12%. The wonder of progressive taxation.
The brackets have changed this year. €150 000 is the start of 44% bracket, with the actual tax at that point being about 32%. Getting to 43% actual income tax is nearly impossible.
Everyone making more than €37 000 got a tax break, the more the bigger.
finland knows it when they see talent
Finnish taxation isn't that heavy. That's like the high bracket for very high earners.
Ratchet and Clank mentioned 🎉
idk I'm more of a windowsXP gal myself
My sister still had an XP until like 3 years ago, until it finally gave up. XP was the best.
@@efi3825 when he was explaining how win95 is from the past, all I could think about was "omg I'm so old I even remember winXP"
No joke, the tech bros of my family did in fact complain about the overlooking of Linux in the branding choice😂
By your definition, Silvia Night wasn't a pure joke entry. She created the character as a commentary on the media of the day.
I did not expect Kyle Gordon to show up lol
You know what's funny? In 2034 the early 2000's are going to be the cool new old thing. It's a historical repeating pattern
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11:26 Turns out that tweet's wrong... that's Windows 95 *beer*.
Oh wow! Source?
Can we get an update now Windows95man has... given the world a little more? #Windows95manWardrobeMalfunction
Let's see where the MLP reference appears next year😂
'Start me up' was interesting choice for advertising Windows 95 as they sing *You make a grown man cry.' I don't remember 95 being so bad.
Like most old technology, 95 was amazing at the time and unbelievably primitive by today’s standards.
if it was up to me it would be "mä oon paskana"
There exists some more Finnish horror movies, like The Moonlight Sonata and The Hatching.
It wouldn't be "Greek" women singing Latin songs. It would be "Cypriot" women for Cyprus. They are 2 separate countries, you know. But of the 3 women you mention, they are originally
from Albania, Georgia and Greece respectively.
Lead singer you cant miss him
Pamela Anderson is Finnish. The original name of her family is Hyytiäinen.
(googles it) Okay she's 1/8 Finnish, and he left for Canada in 1908. I don't think you guys can claim her.
@@overthinkingit no, she claims Finland herself.
That's just the American madness. There's no point for her to call herself Finnish, and no Finn would think she is Finnish by any meaningful way. At most she has Finnish roots.
Is this the famous talking head of AI?
For anyone confused about the finnish "love" for taxes:
I have a very average finnish salary and my tax rate is 20%.
43% is if you have a pretty high salary and at that point you can afford to pay more. Kids lower your tax rate btw, and so do any mortgages you have.
For that we get a free education system that is some of the best in the world, super affordable daycare (the most anyone ever pays is around 350€/month), affordable GOOD health care, a social safety net, and even roads that sometimes aren't completely ruined.
Having a healthy and educated population is good for everyone because it makes a safer society. Simplified: I pay for the neighbor's kid's healthcare and schooling to keep my neighborhood safe for my family because the neighbor doesn't have to cRiMe AbOuT just to survive.
Seems like a good trade. 🤷♂️
It is important to note, that Windows 95 Man had two quite notable predecessors, Markku from Finland, a character created by web comedy group Ruttoryhmä and Stig Dogg, nowadays just Stig(his real name is Pasi Siitonen), who is a really popular artist. Both characters share the moustache, the glasses and the awkward aura with Windows 95 Man. All three are distinctly separate characters, but I'd say that Teemu Keisteri definitely was influenced by Stig and Markku from Finland when creating the Windows 95 Man alter ego.
Idk where you got the 43% tax rate from but that's really misleading. Taxation is progressive here, the tax rate increases the more you earn. I work as a junior software dev and earn a lower middle class type salary and I pay about 19% in income tax plus 8.4% in social security taxes so about 27.4% in total. I'm very happy to pay that much and even more if it means I don't have to worry about going bankrupt because of a surgery or ending up homeless if I lose my job. It also pays for all the public infrastructure and many other things.
On top of that, like many here do, I overestimate my income for tax withholding so I pay a bit more than I should, this way I guarantee I never get a bill for back taxes if I do earn more than I estimated (e.g. if I get a bonus or work a lot of overtime), and I get a nice tax refund every August for the sum I overpaid for last year plus a tiny bit of interest.
I don't care for the song at all but this deep dive was highly entertaining
Love all the europeans triggered by him saying cultural appropriation. Yall do it too but dont like getting called out because you think you just can. And you can..... until youre appropriating cultures that have less power or are cultures that your continent has destroyed with colonialism.
In terms of windows95man, i came in hating the song, and now i hate it but understand why at least some like it so thanks!
as a finn, i was fine with this as our entry, but i wasn't a fan of it. i'm of the opinion that the netherlands really would've deserved it this year