Few facts: -he wrote 8 songs for german band MONO INC last year, they got first prize for the album, - dancers in the video and on the stage are dancing Istrian local dance, -even Rim tim tagi dim riff is very similar to istrian melos, -rural life from the video was visible until 60ies-70ies (even now we have hidden rural parts in the country living like this) -there is approx 4mil Croatians emigrated from Croatia from 19th-21th century through the world (due to economic, wars or political reasons), now in the country there is 4m -total 8m worldwide
German here: you just tore open an old wound! trust me we tried EVERYTHING to get Electric Callboy to that Eurovision Stage. There was a HUGE Petition to the Radio Station which did the National Final but they just ignored EVERYONE. This country will be a lost cause in Eurovision as long as the NDR is in charge of it.
And now EC is bigger than ESC...so sorry they did not get a chance, in Croatia we have the same problem, only horrible songs are in DORA, last year made a change and Marko is making history!
@@Milvusmilvus-jo8vq honestly the jurys are always the problem!!! trust me the german public would have voted very differently but I'm very happy that the stupidity of some radio execs did not hinder Marco coming to the esc, he definitly a favourite of mine and I would LOVE for him to win. I think the problem with the whole EC situation was also that not only did the people in charge not use their brain for one second, but after they saw that literally EVERYONE wanted EC to participate in the national selection they were too proud to admit that they were wrong. all of europe was robbed! and it wasn't fair to the rest of the candidates either I think, because no matter who one nobody would be happy with it.
I think the NDR is choosing Songs for People around 60. Last years Qualification was great, and i think Lord of the Lost had been a great choice. This year and the years before it was sad, so sad to see the show and know "we will be last place again"
@@gracelast5487and then you consider that twice in a row now the televote winner is a song with clear inspiration from EC, as admitted by the singers and composers themselves (and with Rammstein as an even bigger inspiration)... one can sadly only imagine what the real deal would have been like at ESC, because I doubt Germany will win anytime soon. (remind me in eleven months to see me utterly fail this prediction, maybe, lmao)
This song came out the day I got kicked out of my rural family house. This has become an anthem to me the moment it released. Moving from my village of 200 people to a city of 100000 and all the changes that comes with it made me love Rim Tim Tagi Dim even more.
@@VioletBeyondTheStars I'm sorry your family are a*holes. And I hope even though the environment is different, you will be happier than ever wherever you are now. Big cities can be scary, but there's something to be said about the number of different and interesting people living there ♥️
Only two cities in whole country where you wont experience gossiping ppl being trans. Too many alt right anti-woke sentiments of third strongest political party that just got into new government will keep things the same ( ultimately such things are misdirection to benefit from corruption).
I left my parents farm 10 years ago, but always ended up going back over the years to work on major projects and I stayed there during covid. So I still have a fair amount of stuff there. I'm going back this summer to deal with it and bring anything I'm keeping to my home. And I really don't have a plan to go back after that. I need to have my own life away from my parents. The hardest part was selling my horses since when I left 10 years ago I moved to a city of 1.2 million. To me the song describes the broad shared culture of farm life no matter where you are in the world. I'm in Canada, we milked a cow by hand, raised sheep and horses. Leaving that life is bitter sweet, I miss it and at the same time I don't because I want something different, I want my own life. This is another song I keep coming back to because it now part of a chapter in my life I'm closing.
Whenever I see a cat in a eurovision video I always have to write "Meow cat, Please Meow back" Even if it is someone other than Baby Lasagne who owns the cat
He didn’t have trouble finding a cow, he had trouble finding a cow that they could milk for the video. The thing is, as all of us who grew up in rural areas know, cows don’t give milk all year round. 😉
I remember hearing this song for the first time somewhere around february. It was in a finnish radioshow that revolves around contemporary music. I was certain that it's some obscure industrial metal act from eastern finland. Needless to say I was hooked from the beginning and really surprised when I learned that it was actually participating in Dora.
Croatia is about to prove everyone wrong. This for me is the most winning sounding song this year. All the boxes are checked for me - lyrics, rap, guitars, banging drums, great chorus that is chantable, a dance breakdown with moves that everyone can dance to, memorable folk staging and pyros! Baby Lasagna's humble personality and underdog vibes are just another reason who should win. Regarding the Rim Tim Tagi Dim 'fictional' dance it isn't all fictional. I've heard from Croatians that the dance itself in Dora isn't actually made up, like there are dances that are quite similar. Also, the folk outfits are similar to stuff from long ago. They all take inspiration from real life things and are made to represent the broader idea.
Yes, what you see them dancing in the music video is a traditional dance from Istria (part of Croatia that Baby Lasagna is from). On the stage they were dancing more modern dance, with some small elements of traditional mixed into it.
@@Ardnasper The dance is fictional, many Croatian dances have very similar moves, say Drmeš or Linđo...the dance was merely inspired by all those dances, it's not Istrian per se...but it surely feels like it could be authentic while it's really not, Mr. Rather is quite right, everything is idealized (not a fail of course)
@@maricallo6143 I am Croatian. :) Rim Tim Tagi Dim is made up dance in a song in a sense there is no dance or anything else called Rim Tim Tagi Dim in Croatia. But the dance moves used in the background of the music video and to a smaller extent in the Dora performance are elements of an Istrian folk dance.
Explination about chickens that kidnapped let 3: Main leader of Dora for a long time was this old lady who was basically gatekeeping Dora. She never allowed bands like Let 3 perform because they are not good enough in her opinion. Vulgar and primitive. Before she retired she said she is like mother chicken and her employees are like her baby chickens doing things for her. And as soon she retired here comes Let 3 and win. She was angry and she said this is embarassment for this country and they will do horribly on Eurovision. Baba roga literally means old woman with horns. Someone you use to scare toddlers with. Dont touch that knife or baba roga is gonna get you! So lyrics to song are: Baba roga on heavens door dont let me in. She said im evil but i just didnt wash my feet. Heaven is Eurovision, i guess and she is standing there not letting them compete. And this little chickens on stage are her employees keeping them tied up so they dont do something vulgar on live tv. The lady with hammer is Severina that was once on eurovision too. She is having public custody battle for several years now. Her baba roga is jugdes that wont let her see her son and she is there with giant hammer to fight for her kid. After their performance she was giving away big eggs to men around her. And men got so confused, returning eggs back to her saying she shoud have them back.( Because chicken shoud keep her eggs like she sould have her son back)
I read this explanation in a comment on the Eurovision Histories channel. It's interesting but I couldn't find a real source on her calling the singers little chickens. Also I'm not sure I buy Let 3 did this whole song just to spite an old woman. I mean, is there evidence Let 3 really WANTED to compete at Eurovision in the past but this woman wouldn't let them? -MB
Exactly :) Thanks for the analysis. I liked the song from the first moment, that lyrics video - exactly because of the lyrics. Didn't even see the guy yet. This is not just "a joke entry". Hope he wins.
If every jury member that will vote in the Eurovision final saw at least part of this video to better understand the song, I'm sure Baby Lasagna would win the competition comfortably! Thanks for the video. Meow from Croatia! 😻🇭🇷
Even as a German I could relate to the song's themes. While Germany's problem is not as big as Croatia's some regions like Sachsen-Anhalt in what used to be east-germany also have huge problems with young people leaving rural areas and moving to the bigger cities. Mostly because of lack of work opportunities.
Oh it's not just Croatia's problem, for us it's just so noticable because some 500K people moved around Europe when we entered EU. You're gonna notice that, that's a huge part of the country. I'm sure many Sicilians can relate, their people go to the north of Italy or around Europe as well.
@@ararune3734 yes, yes. That's what I'm talking about. While for Croatia it's a much more severe problem, I'm sure most countries can relate to some extent. Which is a really good thing in this contest, in my opinion
@@ararune3734 oh yes I read about that, about Italian abandoned villages and the state offers houses for 1 euro just to return to those villages. Now in Croatia, approx. 25,000 euros are offered as an incentive for young people to return, but there is no response
@@goranjuhaz One time money offers don't mean much. The money's gonna dry up really quickly, and then you're back to the same old problems. Create jobs and infrastructure. As far as these 1€ homes in Italy, I think it sounds nice in theory, but in reality it's gonna get all bought up by old timers from abroad, they might make these houses livable, but it's not going to make a renaissance of the city, ultimately there still won't be jobs. Sure, on the short term some construction workers and manual laborers get jobs, but that's not sustainable. I think these are a bit of a scam for people who like to romanticize these foreign, distant lands and starting a new life. Best case scenario, retirement homes for foreigners looking to move.
@@ararune3734 i 100% agree. The Croatian government has to completely reconstruct the country's economics. yes tourism is great, but not sustainable cuz its gonna become too expensive soon, people will go somewhere else, and profits will go down. Croatia (specifically Istra) is in a great spot to invest A LOT more in becoming a port region for deeper into europe. thats a great way to build the infrastructure that actually stands throughout time, like rotterdam in holland. Also, the climate makes croatia perfect for IT industry and remote workers. At the same time, we have to work at investing into Croatia as citizens or business owners. I have a web design company based in NY and I'm planning on moving back to Croatia soon to bring in extra capital. I'm also planning on building a startup for programming in Croatia to build up the IT industry. While HDZ, SDP, itd figure out how to govern without being extremely corrupt, some of the responsibility is on US to make sure we don't leave the country or find ways to bring people back.
What a great video! Thank you so much. There are so many powerful songs in this year's esc, but rim tim tagi dim is the only song that I get winner vibes from. Rttd is just perfect, both musically and lyrically. So entertaining yet very emotional and relatable at the same time. Marko and Croatia deserve to win so much, and I would like to see so badly that Marko's cinderella story ends happily.
Thanks for the little slap against the german selection process in 2022! I´m from Germany and was very angry at the time, when Electric Callboy didn´t get the chance to participate for the National Final. The broadcaster NDR made a lot of mistakes in the past 10 years, but the reason for not choosing Electric Callboy because the song is "not radio-friendly" was just dumb. Since then "Radio-Friendly" is a word, which triggers a lot of german ESC-Fans like myself.
esp. since just because a song is 'radio friendly' does not necessarily make it suited for Eurovision. Because you need to stand out to win Eurovision, and most songs the 'experts' find radio friendly.tend to be pretty average
Rim tim tagi dim means nothing, but it is interesting how in Istrian/Primorje music tradition there is a so called Tarankanje, which is singing to imitate music instruments. Just like Baby Lasagna did! For example, Putokazi used it in their song Tararajčica.
Many songwriters come up with a melody and even the arrangement in their head and perform it with their mouth, simulating guitars and drums before they reproduce it with real instruments. But, yeah, your explanation is kinda romanticized.
Good, but my explanation is not romanticized. Tarankanje is on UNESCO list of intangible cultural heritage (two-part singing and playing in the Istrian scale).
oh thats interesting! :o i knew these kind of instrument imitation lines by some german folklore songs, specifically for drums or flutes! I dont know when these songs date (i know them from "campfire singing" mostly), so its a cool thought for me that maybe these were influenced by travels and exchange and found influence in my cultural heritage too! thats also why i never understood rim tim tagi dim to be a dance, but the mere onomatopoetics of the drum rhythm the folk dance is based of that the people dance to.
You really dig deep into this topic, remarkable research and effort, thank you sir... just to address to that verse "I sold my cow"... back in a days when our ancestors decided to leave their country in a pursue for a better life, the only way to pay for the boat ticket was to sell the cow, which was considered to be the most valued thing rural people possessed back then. .. so in that official video, you can see him in a clothes very similar to that time, also the look of that suitcase and him waiting on that peer for a boat. So, few centuries passed and we are again forced to leave our country, trying to get a better job and a better life for us and our families. History repeats indeed. Greetings from my beautiful Croatia :-)
This song is a total bop and I can imagine it going all the way! It’s hard for me to choose who I think should win Number 1 this year but this is in my top 3. I played it for an American friend who has never heard of Eurovision and she couldn’t stop talking about it 😂
It is not fairytale version it is historical. He combines past emigrations with this nowdays . At the beginning of 20 st. it was massive emigration of people from Croatia, mostly from coast region to Amerika, Australia,New Zealand and 1950 to Germany and north Europe. Official video shows historical Istrian people, housses, food, folk costumes and dance. Rig tig tagi dim is not a name of the istrian dance it is a kind of Markos onomatopoeia tradiotional istrian dance rythm. Thank you for your review 🙂
This is all true! But my point is that centering it on the fictional "Rim Tim Tagi Dim" gives it a touch of a fairy tale feeling. It's like he's saying, "This isn't exactly how it is/was but this is how it feels/felt."
True. That was very much evident in the lyrics video - I mean the parallel with the 1st emigration wave, as illustrations really gave of that hundreds years old vibe. And in the music video it’s kept in the outro when he is leaving with that old suitcase, dressed as folks back at the beginning of 20th century, waiting at the docks, which is exactly how they were leaving towards the “New World”
Ne znam zasto mu se zahvaljujes, zar nisi shvatila poentu cijelog videa, a to je poniziti pjesmu baby Lasagne, dokazati da je djelimicni plagijat, od Karije, da to nije Markova prica o iseljavanju, sto je glupost, jer 500.000 Hrvata je napustilo zemlju zadnjih 10 godina, kao da on nije mogao napraviti pjesmu na tu temu. Ovaj lik stalno trazi da je nesto lazno kod BL, pa je na kraju kao "dokazao" da i taj ples nije tradicionalni, usporedjuje sa Sirtakijem itd. Njegova namjera je jako losa prema nasem predstavniku, ocito velika ljubomora sto je pjesma omiljena i zarazna. Ne znam odakle je lik, ali se bas stavio da sto vise ponizi nasu pjesmu.
@@overthinkingit You are very evil and you made this video with only one purpose, to let down croatian song and autor. Do you know that over 500.000 young people lieved Croatia and gone to the other countries last 10 years?Croatia is 4 milions inhabitans, 1/8 gone.
Well, Istria region of Croatia where Marko (Baby Lasagna) is from is known for using made-up non-words phrases in folklore songs for centuries. Most famous one that every kid learns in schools in Croatia goes "traj na ni na ni ne na, traj na ni na ne na". That means absolutely nothing in Croatian nor in Istrian dialect. Also, the melody typically plays half step up and half step down from one basic tone. Here is modern adaptation of traditional Istrian song "Ča je more" ("What is the sea") for example: ua-cam.com/video/W0Wz0NFjVcE/v-deo.html Marko uses both of those typical Istrian folklore elements in his song Rim tim tagi dim, consciously or not.
This is one of the best analysis videos I've ever watched, so informative, so relaxing and easy to follow. I don't live in the same part of Croatia as Marko does, the part I'm in is called Slavonija, It mostly consists of villages, a few big cities and so on. But, so many young people have left Slavonija due to not finding jobes, living being quite expensive, a lot of people here live out of agriculture, yet the agriculture is suffering, Villages are getting abandoned and the number of the old people heavily outweights the numbers of the young people. He wrote a song that reflects our actual situation, while connecting with other people who are aware of this problem and invited the whole Eurovision to his concert.
I wouldn't agree he didn't get much interest "In 2022, Purišić played a significant role in co-writing several tracks for Mono Inc.'s 12th studio album, Ravenblack. contributing to the album's success as it reached the number one spot in Germany, marking the band's highest-peaking album to date. Notably, many of the songs penned by Purišić were selected as singles, including "Princess of the Night", "Empire", "Heartbeat of the Dead", "Lieb mich", and "At the End of the Rainbow""
Fair enough. I feel like I did have a source where he said he started writing songs for himself only after he didn't get enough interest in selling songs to others, but I don't have it handy.
@@overthinkingit I watched a documentary only yesterday in which he said he had gotten into a habit of complaining to his girlfriend about always doing music for others never for himself... so she gave him a sympathetic ear for a while until one day she told him: so stop. One does get the impression she uses words more sparsly.. but often hit the mark with him 😂 I enjoyed your video very much. Came across it randomly so I was surprised by how thorough and analytical you were. I could imagine you delivering this lecture at my uni class 👍
Overthinking It has to be one of the best and most entertaining ESC analyses on UA-cam. Their non-European, outside-looking-in viewpoint is truly remarkable! I could listen to Matt for hours, having possibly developed a man-crush on him 🥰 Douze points!
I put off listening to this song for a while, but when I did, it really resonated with me. My grandfather came to the US from Croatia before the existence of Yugoslavia. A relative in Croatia told me that the family sold a cow to pay his way across the Atlantic. In my 20s, I spent a year in the Balkans (actually based in Serbia) and visited Croatia many times and became very interested in the folk music and dance, though I wasn't ever talented enough to participate fully. Go Marko!
I think his inspiration also largely comes from Rammstein, just like Karija, they're both fan of them (Karija even has a Rammstein tattoo). You can clearly see that in different aspects of the song. First, in the music, that's the same style as Rammstein, except for the dance break part. It gives me the vibes of the first two Rammstein albums in particular. Second, the way he moves at the end of the performance, it very much reminds me of Till Lindemann's way of moving to some songs. Third, the music video has a similar atmosphere as Dicke Titten (rural, traditional clothes...). Lastly, the ending part of the Rim Tim Tagi Dim official video is very similar to how Rammstein end their videos, with a piano, melancholic part that ends the music video with additional scenes. The first time I heard Rim Tim Tagi Dim I immediately thought it was sounding like Rammstein.
Well there is nothing pervert in Baby Lasagna's video, comparing to Rammstein which dedicated largest part of the video to..titten. Theme is completely different. Last part of Baby's video is at the sea and even not performed on the stage (song stops at 03:00). I enjoj much more in Lasagna's video than in Rammstein's kinky scenes which are only adult friendly
This is such a cool analytic video about one of my all-time ESC favourites. Also, I want to thank you for clearly going out of your way to pronounce names and words correctly. I’m a German, I won’t get into the Electric Callboy thing, but I can say you got the “ch” sound in Berthold BreCHt perfectly well.
Käärijä changed the game last year. Watching this year's Eurovision, I couldn't help but notice that most of the artists were definitely inspired by last year's people's winner of Eurovision.
2:20 Babajega is in Russia. Babaroga is in the Balkans. Baba in Slavic menas 'grandmother' or 'old women'. Rog means 'horn'. So babaroga is 'old woman with horns'
Great video! Thanks for doing the deep dive analysis of this fantastic song! Baby Lasagna was my #1 choice to win! Unfortunately he came in 2nd place, but at least he got most of the people's votes. 😸
Kod nas bi rekli: "bolje svašta raditi nego kopati". A ja bih rekao da tko nezna ništa stvoriti počne se baviti analizama i kritikama oni koji to znaju.
Was almost in despair when the video was almost over and you hadn't mentioned the cat.... "Meow cat please meow back" is the best line in an Eurovision song ever! Not sure how I stumbled upon this video, but you have a new (a meow) subscriber!! 😻
Rim tim tagi dim is the equivalent of Ninanajna from Elena Risteska's song representing Macedonia in 2006. It's the vocalization of the music. It's hardly something that Baby Lasagna invented. Also, huge Baby Lasagna fan and I hope he wins!
Serbian here, excellent analysis, I just subscribed! Dr Martinez's contribution was the moment I clicked on the subscribe button! You guys are both smart and funny, what a treat for my brain 🧠🫀💪🌴✨
Excelent deep-dive. Rich music interconnections, sidenote to Germany, well researched sources about Rim Tim Tagi Dim and creative process. (Also, croatian news articles screenshots... ) As a Croat, I also learned a lot. BTW, last year Let 3 song Mama ŠĆ could be about Russia-Ukraine war, by some theories. I mean, ŠČ or cyrilic щ is a letter in ukranian cyrilic alphabet that is pronounced like that only in ukranian. I mentiones war, psychopaths etc. AND congratulations on your Š, Č. you PRONOUNCE very well!! (like, favorite) Keep it up! 😎
Time traveller: Moves a chair.
Present day: Croatia wins Eurovision with a song that was originally a Dora alternate.
I looked for the story of what happened to Zsa Zsa to make her drop out and couldn't find anything. Time traveler seems like a good guess.
@@overthinkingit My guess is authors back down or maybe she had some dissagrement about performance with them.
The Future? Ukraine wins, and Croatia comes second, so has to host ESC?
@@overthinkingit Zsa Zsa got pregnant. :) That was the reason.
@@onym548 Oh coooool! Where did you hear that?
Few facts:
-he wrote 8 songs for german band MONO INC last year, they got first prize for the album,
- dancers in the video and on the stage are dancing Istrian local dance,
-even Rim tim tagi dim riff is very similar to istrian melos,
-rural life from the video was visible until 60ies-70ies (even now we have hidden rural parts in the country living like this)
-there is approx 4mil Croatians emigrated from Croatia from 19th-21th century through the world (due to economic, wars or political reasons), now in the country there is 4m -total 8m worldwide
He also published 2 songs under the name 'Bastion' (Tebe trazim; Dajem ti sad), which proves his vocals are equally good in ballads 🙂🙌
Also he was guitarist and back vocal for Manntra for years!
Is that because Mono Inc's bassist is croatian?
@@barnabasmike4318 probably.. the basist (Val Perun) is actually Marko's brother, so that's why he wrote for the band
Much less than 4 mil in country today. Sadly.
German here: you just tore open an old wound! trust me we tried EVERYTHING to get Electric Callboy to that Eurovision Stage. There was a HUGE Petition to the Radio Station which did the National Final but they just ignored EVERYONE. This country will be a lost cause in Eurovision as long as the NDR is in charge of it.
And now EC is bigger than ESC...so sorry they did not get a chance, in Croatia we have the same problem, only horrible songs are in DORA, last year made a change and Marko is making history!
@@Milvusmilvus-jo8vq honestly the jurys are always the problem!!! trust me the german public would have voted very differently but I'm very happy that the stupidity of some radio execs did not hinder Marco coming to the esc, he definitly a favourite of mine and I would LOVE for him to win.
I think the problem with the whole EC situation was also that not only did the people in charge not use their brain for one second, but after they saw that literally EVERYONE wanted EC to participate in the national selection they were too proud to admit that they were wrong. all of europe was robbed! and it wasn't fair to the rest of the candidates either I think, because no matter who one nobody would be happy with it.
I think the NDR is choosing Songs for People around 60. Last years Qualification was great, and i think Lord of the Lost had been a great choice. This year and the years before it was sad, so sad to see the show and know "we will be last place again"
@@gracelast5487and then you consider that twice in a row now the televote winner is a song with clear inspiration from EC, as admitted by the singers and composers themselves (and with Rammstein as an even bigger inspiration)... one can sadly only imagine what the real deal would have been like at ESC, because I doubt Germany will win anytime soon.
(remind me in eleven months to see me utterly fail this prediction, maybe, lmao)
This song came out the day I got kicked out of my rural family house. This has become an anthem to me the moment it released. Moving from my village of 200 people to a city of 100000 and all the changes that comes with it made me love Rim Tim Tagi Dim even more.
Why were you kicked out?
@@kristinastimac1389 im trans
@@VioletBeyondTheStars I'm sorry your family are a*holes. And I hope even though the environment is different, you will be happier than ever wherever you are now. Big cities can be scary, but there's something to be said about the number of different and interesting people living there ♥️
Only two cities in whole country where you wont experience gossiping ppl being trans.
Too many alt right anti-woke sentiments of third strongest political party that just got into new government will keep things the same ( ultimately such things are misdirection to benefit from corruption).
I left my parents farm 10 years ago, but always ended up going back over the years to work on major projects and I stayed there during covid. So I still have a fair amount of stuff there. I'm going back this summer to deal with it and bring anything I'm keeping to my home. And I really don't have a plan to go back after that. I need to have my own life away from my parents. The hardest part was selling my horses since when I left 10 years ago I moved to a city of 1.2 million. To me the song describes the broad shared culture of farm life no matter where you are in the world. I'm in Canada, we milked a cow by hand, raised sheep and horses. Leaving that life is bitter sweet, I miss it and at the same time I don't because I want something different, I want my own life. This is another song I keep coming back to because it now part of a chapter in my life I'm closing.
A true Cinderella story for Eurovision. Go, go Marko 🇭🇷🎉
Meow from Greece! 12 Meows for Croatia!!!
❤🇬🇷🇭🇷❤🇬🇷🇭🇷❤
Meow too!
Actualy Croatian band Riva win at Eurosong 89. But Croatia was in Yugoslavia back then.
and wouldn't you know it: the channel made a video about that about 2 weeks ago ;)
We Had a Petition with over 130000 Signs for Electric Callboy
Whenever I see a cat in a eurovision video I always have to write "Meow cat, Please Meow back" Even if it is someone other than Baby Lasagne who owns the cat
Meow cat, Please Meow back
He didn’t have trouble finding a cow, he had trouble finding a cow that they could milk for the video. The thing is, as all of us who grew up in rural areas know, cows don’t give milk all year round. 😉
They DON’T??
No, only supermarkets do 😁
I'm 24 and I'm knowing this for the first time. Wow- Ig you learn something new everyday
@@overthinkingit Nope. They are not machines
Hahah..cow has to give birth to a baby cow to give a milk, each year
I remember hearing this song for the first time somewhere around february. It was in a finnish radioshow that revolves around contemporary music. I was certain that it's some obscure industrial metal act from eastern finland. Needless to say I was hooked from the beginning and really surprised when I learned that it was actually participating in Dora.
Croatia is about to prove everyone wrong. This for me is the most winning sounding song this year. All the boxes are checked for me - lyrics, rap, guitars, banging drums, great chorus that is chantable, a dance breakdown with moves that everyone can dance to, memorable folk staging and pyros! Baby Lasagna's humble personality and underdog vibes are just another reason who should win. Regarding the Rim Tim Tagi Dim 'fictional' dance it isn't all fictional. I've heard from Croatians that the dance itself in Dora isn't actually made up, like there are dances that are quite similar. Also, the folk outfits are similar to stuff from long ago. They all take inspiration from real life things and are made to represent the broader idea.
Yes, what you see them dancing in the music video is a traditional dance from Istria (part of Croatia that Baby Lasagna is from). On the stage they were dancing more modern dance, with some small elements of traditional mixed into it.
@@Ardnasper The dance is fictional, many Croatian dances have very similar moves, say Drmeš or Linđo...the dance was merely inspired by all those dances, it's not Istrian per se...but it surely feels like it could be authentic while it's really not, Mr. Rather is quite right, everything is idealized (not a fail of course)
@@maricallo6143 I am Croatian. :) Rim Tim Tagi Dim is made up dance in a song in a sense there is no dance or anything else called Rim Tim Tagi Dim in Croatia. But the dance moves used in the background of the music video and to a smaller extent in the Dora performance are elements of an Istrian folk dance.
I got, i got it, you like Croatia. I think you stated this enough. Take it slower 😊
Explination about chickens that kidnapped let 3:
Main leader of Dora for a long time was this old lady who was basically gatekeeping Dora. She never allowed bands like Let 3 perform because they are not good enough in her opinion. Vulgar and primitive. Before she retired she said she is like mother chicken and her employees are like her baby chickens doing things for her. And as soon she retired here comes Let 3 and win. She was angry and she said this is embarassment for this country and they will do horribly on Eurovision. Baba roga literally means old woman with horns. Someone you use to scare toddlers with. Dont touch that knife or baba roga is gonna get you!
So lyrics to song are: Baba roga on heavens door dont let me in. She said im evil but i just didnt wash my feet. Heaven is Eurovision, i guess and she is standing there not letting them compete. And this little chickens on stage are her employees keeping them tied up so they dont do something vulgar on live tv.
The lady with hammer is Severina that was once on eurovision too. She is having public custody battle for several years now. Her baba roga is jugdes that wont let her see her son and she is there with giant hammer to fight for her kid. After their performance she was giving away big eggs to men around her. And men got so confused, returning eggs back to her saying she shoud have them back.( Because chicken shoud keep her eggs like she sould have her son back)
I read this explanation in a comment on the Eurovision Histories channel. It's interesting but I couldn't find a real source on her calling the singers little chickens. Also I'm not sure I buy Let 3 did this whole song just to spite an old woman. I mean, is there evidence Let 3 really WANTED to compete at Eurovision in the past but this woman wouldn't let them? -MB
Baba Roga (or Yaga) lives in a house with chicken legs. Hence, chiken.
Ooooooh.
That's Baba Yaga, Baba Roga is her sister
@@sjelos It's the same character.
Baby Lasagna bring a cat lover puts him in good company - Olly Alexander and Damino David are both cat lovers too.
You explained the whole story perfectly 🎉❤ thank you for that from Croatia
German here ! No, we're not okay. Unforgetten, unforgiven
Are you ready for our annual meeting at the bottom of the scoreboard? Love from UK!
@@littleblackpistol we're counting on it ;)))
@@littleblackpistol😂😂😂😂
Exactly :) Thanks for the analysis. I liked the song from the first moment, that lyrics video - exactly because of the lyrics. Didn't even see the guy yet. This is not just "a joke entry". Hope he wins.
If every jury member that will vote in the Eurovision final saw at least part of this video to better understand the song, I'm sure Baby Lasagna would win the competition comfortably! Thanks for the video. Meow from Croatia! 😻🇭🇷
Meow.
Even as a German I could relate to the song's themes. While Germany's problem is not as big as Croatia's some regions like Sachsen-Anhalt in what used to be east-germany also have huge problems with young people leaving rural areas and moving to the bigger cities. Mostly because of lack of work opportunities.
Oh it's not just Croatia's problem, for us it's just so noticable because some 500K people moved around Europe when we entered EU. You're gonna notice that, that's a huge part of the country. I'm sure many Sicilians can relate, their people go to the north of Italy or around Europe as well.
@@ararune3734 yes, yes. That's what I'm talking about. While for Croatia it's a much more severe problem, I'm sure most countries can relate to some extent. Which is a really good thing in this contest, in my opinion
@@ararune3734 oh yes I read about that, about Italian abandoned villages and the state offers houses for 1 euro just to return to those villages. Now in Croatia, approx. 25,000 euros are offered as an incentive for young people to return, but there is no response
@@goranjuhaz One time money offers don't mean much. The money's gonna dry up really quickly, and then you're back to the same old problems. Create jobs and infrastructure.
As far as these 1€ homes in Italy, I think it sounds nice in theory, but in reality it's gonna get all bought up by old timers from abroad, they might make these houses livable, but it's not going to make a renaissance of the city, ultimately there still won't be jobs. Sure, on the short term some construction workers and manual laborers get jobs, but that's not sustainable.
I think these are a bit of a scam for people who like to romanticize these foreign, distant lands and starting a new life. Best case scenario, retirement homes for foreigners looking to move.
@@ararune3734 i 100% agree. The Croatian government has to completely reconstruct the country's economics. yes tourism is great, but not sustainable cuz its gonna become too expensive soon, people will go somewhere else, and profits will go down. Croatia (specifically Istra) is in a great spot to invest A LOT more in becoming a port region for deeper into europe. thats a great way to build the infrastructure that actually stands throughout time, like rotterdam in holland. Also, the climate makes croatia perfect for IT industry and remote workers. At the same time, we have to work at investing into Croatia as citizens or business owners. I have a web design company based in NY and I'm planning on moving back to Croatia soon to bring in extra capital. I'm also planning on building a startup for programming in Croatia to build up the IT industry. While HDZ, SDP, itd figure out how to govern without being extremely corrupt, some of the responsibility is on US to make sure we don't leave the country or find ways to bring people back.
Meow from denmark ❤️🇭🇷❤️
Mjau till Danmark, hälsningar från Kroatien
@@ararune3734I think that’s Swedish :)
@@theduuuude3967 Yes I know, but I don't speak Danish sorry. I figured they'll understand me anyway
Mange hilsner tilbage 😊
Lasagna is my clear favourite! 4,50 to win is GREAT VALUE!
Thank you for your good comment. Greetings from Croatia! Meow✌️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🇭🇷🇭🇷🇭🇷🇭🇷🇭🇷❤️❤️❤️❤️😻😻😻😻✌️✌️
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What a great video! Thank you so much. There are so many powerful songs in this year's esc, but rim tim tagi dim is the only song that I get winner vibes from. Rttd is just perfect, both musically and lyrically. So entertaining yet very emotional and relatable at the same time. Marko and Croatia deserve to win so much, and I would like to see so badly that Marko's cinderella story ends happily.
I am blown away from the wealth of information that Kristina Martinez brought to this video. Excellent choice! Loved it!🤣
Thanks for the little slap against the german selection process in 2022! I´m from Germany and was very angry at the time, when Electric Callboy didn´t get the chance to participate for the National Final. The broadcaster NDR made a lot of mistakes in the past 10 years, but the reason for not choosing Electric Callboy because the song is "not radio-friendly" was just dumb. Since then "Radio-Friendly" is a word, which triggers a lot of german ESC-Fans like myself.
esp. since just because a song is 'radio friendly' does not necessarily make it suited for Eurovision. Because you need to stand out to win Eurovision, and most songs the 'experts' find radio friendly.tend to be pretty average
thank you for the wonderful explanation of the song rim tim tagi dim
lik blebece takve gluposti da mi se cini da niste uoce poslusali sta prica nego samo procitali naslov.
Rim tim tagi dim means nothing, but it is interesting how in Istrian/Primorje music tradition there is a so called Tarankanje, which is singing to imitate music instruments. Just like Baby Lasagna did!
For example, Putokazi used it in their song Tararajčica.
Many songwriters come up with a melody and even the arrangement in their head and perform it with their mouth, simulating guitars and drums before they reproduce it with real instruments. But, yeah, your explanation is kinda romanticized.
Good, but my explanation is not romanticized. Tarankanje is on UNESCO list of intangible cultural heritage (two-part singing and playing in the Istrian scale).
oh thats interesting! :o i knew these kind of instrument imitation lines by some german folklore songs, specifically for drums or flutes! I dont know when these songs date (i know them from "campfire singing" mostly), so its a cool thought for me that maybe these were influenced by travels and exchange and found influence in my cultural heritage too!
thats also why i never understood rim tim tagi dim to be a dance, but the mere onomatopoetics of the drum rhythm the folk dance is based of that the people dance to.
You really dig deep into this topic, remarkable research and effort, thank you sir... just to address to that verse "I sold my cow"... back in a days when our ancestors decided to leave their country in a pursue for a better life, the only way to pay for the boat ticket was to sell the cow, which was considered to be the most valued thing rural people possessed back then. .. so in that official video, you can see him in a clothes very similar to that time, also the look of that suitcase and him waiting on that peer for a boat. So, few centuries passed and we are again forced to leave our country, trying to get a better job and a better life for us and our families. History repeats indeed. Greetings from my beautiful Croatia :-)
This song is a total bop and I can imagine it going all the way! It’s hard for me to choose who I think should win Number 1 this year but this is in my top 3. I played it for an American friend who has never heard of Eurovision and she couldn’t stop talking about it 😂
It is not fairytale version it is historical. He combines past emigrations with this nowdays . At the beginning of 20 st. it was massive emigration of people from Croatia, mostly from coast region to Amerika, Australia,New Zealand and 1950 to Germany and north Europe. Official video shows historical Istrian people, housses, food, folk costumes and dance. Rig tig tagi dim is not a name of the istrian dance it is a kind of Markos onomatopoeia tradiotional istrian dance rythm. Thank you for your review 🙂
This is all true! But my point is that centering it on the fictional "Rim Tim Tagi Dim" gives it a touch of a fairy tale feeling. It's like he's saying, "This isn't exactly how it is/was but this is how it feels/felt."
True. That was very much evident in the lyrics video - I mean the parallel with the 1st emigration wave, as illustrations really gave of that hundreds years old vibe. And in the music video it’s kept in the outro when he is leaving with that old suitcase, dressed as folks back at the beginning of 20th century, waiting at the docks, which is exactly how they were leaving towards the “New World”
@@overthinkingit Yes of course, everyone has his own interpretation and that's nice...
Ne znam zasto mu se zahvaljujes, zar nisi shvatila poentu cijelog videa, a to je poniziti pjesmu baby Lasagne, dokazati da je djelimicni plagijat, od Karije, da to nije Markova prica o iseljavanju, sto je glupost, jer 500.000 Hrvata je napustilo zemlju zadnjih 10 godina, kao da on nije mogao napraviti pjesmu na tu temu. Ovaj lik stalno trazi da je nesto lazno kod BL, pa je na kraju kao "dokazao" da i taj ples nije tradicionalni, usporedjuje sa Sirtakijem itd. Njegova namjera je jako losa prema nasem predstavniku, ocito velika ljubomora sto je pjesma omiljena i zarazna. Ne znam odakle je lik, ali se bas stavio da sto vise ponizi nasu pjesmu.
@@overthinkingit You are very evil and you made this video with only one purpose, to let down croatian song and autor. Do you know that over 500.000 young people lieved Croatia and gone to the other countries last 10 years?Croatia is 4 milions inhabitans, 1/8 gone.
Portugal was not a powerhouse as well, SALVADOR surprised the world!! BABY LASAGNA FOR THE WINNNNNNNNN!!
Odd comparison 😂
I’m not okay 😭 - a German 🇩🇪 Eurovision fan
The title would have been perfect for Sini Sabotage if she would have represented Finland
Only after reading this and reading the title again I made the connection that lasagna has layers too 😲
Well, Istria region of Croatia where Marko (Baby Lasagna) is from is known for using made-up non-words phrases in folklore songs for centuries. Most famous one that every kid learns in schools in Croatia goes "traj na ni na ni ne na, traj na ni na ne na". That means absolutely nothing in Croatian nor in Istrian dialect. Also, the melody typically plays half step up and half step down from one basic tone. Here is modern adaptation of traditional Istrian song "Ča je more" ("What is the sea") for example: ua-cam.com/video/W0Wz0NFjVcE/v-deo.html
Marko uses both of those typical Istrian folklore elements in his song Rim tim tagi dim, consciously or not.
Thanks for the cultural lesson and the song link! Very interesting! 😊
Please win
Yeah 🇭🇷
OK, I will.
he's trying, but haters look for every little flaw, everyone wants perfection, and nobody in the world has that
I’m dutch so I hope joost Klein wins but this is also a banger
Theres no going back (from being Baby Lasagna'd)
meow
Thank you for this in-depth analysis
It would be Baby Lasagne in the UK.
And again learned something new - about the fictional (greece) dance.
But the cats :) .. you kinda listen to the song only for this one line :) 🐱
This is one of the best analysis videos I've ever watched, so informative, so relaxing and easy to follow.
I don't live in the same part of Croatia as Marko does, the part I'm in is called Slavonija, It mostly consists of villages, a few big cities and so on. But, so many young people have left Slavonija due to not finding jobes, living being quite expensive, a lot of people here live out of agriculture, yet the agriculture is suffering, Villages are getting abandoned and the number of the old people heavily outweights the numbers of the young people. He wrote a song that reflects our actual situation, while connecting with other people who are aware of this problem and invited the whole Eurovision to his concert.
If Baby Lasagna and Electric Callboy went on tour I would CRY and drop any amount of money on that tour!
Baby Lasagne is trending in foods.
The cat wasn't going to meow back to Matt... It was annoyed.
That cat looked even more desperate to get away than Larry the Cat in the Rishi "Home Alone" video.
I wouldn't agree he didn't get much interest "In 2022, Purišić played a significant role in co-writing several tracks for Mono Inc.'s 12th studio album, Ravenblack. contributing to the album's success as it reached the number one spot in Germany, marking the band's highest-peaking album to date. Notably, many of the songs penned by Purišić were selected as singles, including "Princess of the Night", "Empire", "Heartbeat of the Dead", "Lieb mich", and "At the End of the Rainbow""
Fair enough. I feel like I did have a source where he said he started writing songs for himself only after he didn't get enough interest in selling songs to others, but I don't have it handy.
@@overthinkingit I watched a documentary only yesterday in which he said he had gotten into a habit of complaining to his girlfriend about always doing music for others never for himself... so she gave him a sympathetic ear for a while until one day she told him: so stop. One does get the impression she uses words more sparsly.. but often hit the mark with him 😂
I enjoyed your video very much. Came across it randomly so I was surprised by how thorough and analytical you were. I could imagine you delivering this lecture at my uni class 👍
Your videos are just such a pleasure to watch! I hope your channel blows up sooner rather than later, thank you guys!!!
Overthinking It has to be one of the best and most entertaining ESC analyses on UA-cam. Their non-European, outside-looking-in viewpoint is truly remarkable!
I could listen to Matt for hours, having possibly developed a man-crush on him 🥰 Douze points!
I put off listening to this song for a while, but when I did, it really resonated with me. My grandfather came to the US from Croatia before the existence of Yugoslavia. A relative in Croatia told me that the family sold a cow to pay his way across the Atlantic. In my 20s, I spent a year in the Balkans (actually based in Serbia) and visited Croatia many times and became very interested in the folk music and dance, though I wasn't ever talented enough to participate fully.
Go Marko!
Not a cat owner per se, since "my" cat just moved to my place from my neighbours but yea, please meow back europe.
Strange that "Electric Cowboys" are mentioned so extensively and not a word about his most prominent influence: Rammstein.
Wait did I not? I swear I wrote something about that - maybe it got lost in editing. Anyway great catch.
I loved the insightful specialist's contributions.
Thank you for the very good analysis. Best wishes ✌️
Käärijä was very much the front runner for UMK since Cha Cha Cha since I think yle started choosing the songs. Trust me I'm a Finn.
I was waiting for this video!
Yugoslavia was a paradise compared to most of Europe - great housing , free education etc
Another great video. Thank you so much
I think his inspiration also largely comes from Rammstein, just like Karija, they're both fan of them (Karija even has a Rammstein tattoo). You can clearly see that in different aspects of the song. First, in the music, that's the same style as Rammstein, except for the dance break part. It gives me the vibes of the first two Rammstein albums in particular. Second, the way he moves at the end of the performance, it very much reminds me of Till Lindemann's way of moving to some songs. Third, the music video has a similar atmosphere as Dicke Titten (rural, traditional clothes...). Lastly, the ending part of the Rim Tim Tagi Dim official video is very similar to how Rammstein end their videos, with a piano, melancholic part that ends the music video with additional scenes. The first time I heard Rim Tim Tagi Dim I immediately thought it was sounding like Rammstein.
Well there is nothing pervert in Baby Lasagna's video, comparing to Rammstein which dedicated largest part of the video to..titten. Theme is completely different. Last part of Baby's video is at the sea and even not performed on the stage (song stops at 03:00). I enjoj much more in Lasagna's video than in Rammstein's kinky scenes which are only adult friendly
This is such a cool analytic video about one of my all-time ESC favourites.
Also, I want to thank you for clearly going out of your way to pronounce names and words correctly. I’m a German, I won’t get into the Electric Callboy thing, but I can say you got the “ch” sound in Berthold BreCHt perfectly well.
Käärijä changed the game last year. Watching this year's Eurovision, I couldn't help but notice that most of the artists were definitely inspired by last year's people's winner of Eurovision.
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Babajega is in Russia.
Babaroga is in the Balkans.
Baba in Slavic menas 'grandmother' or 'old women'.
Rog means 'horn'.
So babaroga is 'old woman with horns'
I hope Petra makes a comentary on how his song almost fills all the Love Love Peace Peace boxes hahahaha
Your analysis is excellent!!! Great job!
G-Dawg is not okay 😢 thanks for acknowledging our pain ❤
Another great analysis, thanks !
Great analysis! I waited so long for the cat and was beginning to worry you forgot about it haha😸
Great video! Thanks for doing the deep dive analysis of this fantastic song! Baby Lasagna was my #1 choice to win! Unfortunately he came in 2nd place, but at least he got most of the people's votes. 😸
Well, this is what I call homework well done. All the best.
For completeness sake, it's worth mentioning that Marko also has another sub-alias "Jeremija" with a very Christian song "Ne daj mi oče"
Wow, you did a hell of a homework. I'm impressed! Great job!
Great video!:D Like always
Incredible how much research is put into this, amazing
Kod nas bi rekli: "bolje svašta raditi nego kopati". A ja bih rekao da tko nezna ništa stvoriti počne se baviti analizama i kritikama oni koji to znaju.
Was almost in despair when the video was almost over and you hadn't mentioned the cat....
"Meow cat please meow back" is the best line in an Eurovision song ever!
Not sure how I stumbled upon this video, but you have a new (a meow) subscriber!! 😻
Misread as Baby Lasagne has lawyers 😔
Rim tim tagi dim is the equivalent of Ninanajna from Elena Risteska's song representing Macedonia in 2006. It's the vocalization of the music. It's hardly something that Baby Lasagna invented. Also, huge Baby Lasagna fan and I hope he wins!
Unbelievable what depth and research you go into for your videos! Meow for your channel!
It’s ABBA’s I Wonder (Departure) with a beat, a cat, a cow and a made up dance. Loving it!!
Ty for the vid❤
Thank you, sir, for working on your pronunciation of our weird Slavic names and toponyms. Your sacrifice is duly noted.
Go Marko ❤
Comparing rim tim tagi dim to ja ja ding dong is a stroke of genius.
Woah, incredible video, you dig deep man. Wonderful, thank you from Croatia. :-)
I definitely feel like after Finland last year we're due for something like this or Estonia to win.
Damn, all the Cornish people are feeling this one
German here. No we don’t want to talk about Electric Callboy. We don’t want to talk about it coz we’re still upset about it. It was a huge thing.
Croatia must win this year! This is an incredible song! It has everything.
12 meows/points for Croatia from me
LOVE YOUR DEPTH OF ANALYSIS!
Serbian here, excellent analysis, I just subscribed!
Dr Martinez's contribution was the moment I clicked on the subscribe button! You guys are both smart and funny, what a treat for my brain 🧠🫀💪🌴✨
Excelent deep-dive. Rich music interconnections, sidenote to Germany, well researched sources about Rim Tim Tagi Dim and creative process. (Also, croatian news articles screenshots... ) As a Croat, I also learned a lot.
BTW, last year Let 3 song Mama ŠĆ could be about Russia-Ukraine war, by some theories. I mean, ŠČ or cyrilic щ is a letter in ukranian cyrilic alphabet that is pronounced like that only in ukranian. I mentiones war, psychopaths etc.
AND congratulations on your Š, Č. you PRONOUNCE very well!!
(like, favorite) Keep it up! 😎
That's the first video I watched here. And I'm totally going to stay! 😂
Welcome!
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I love your videos, just wanted to let you know that!! They're my favorite to arrive in my inbox ❤
Ouch... that Electric Callboy part hits hard... I said I AM FINE!! 🤧😢
He actually stated that his all time favourite song is "Metallica - Enter Sandman". Aint that an inspiration? 🤔
Australia did the same thing with the Nutbush as the Greeks did with Zorba. Rim Tim Tagi Dim!!!
Marko Star goooooo❤❤❤❤❤
Thank you ❤️
That's why he calls himself lasagna, because he has layers.