What was Used BEFORE Bacta was Discovered? - Why One Planet was NEVER the Same After Bacta Adoption

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    0:00 Intro
    0:54 Kolto
    3:54 The Courts of Ahto City
    7:00 The Rise of Bacta
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  • @galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478
    @galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478 2 роки тому +318

    It's interesting how the creators of Bacta, a stronger healing liquid than Kolto, were much more open about how Bacta worked than the Selkath were with Kolto.

    • @geetslys
      @geetslys  2 роки тому +52

      Yes, that is very interesting 🤔

    • @supercellodude
      @supercellodude 2 роки тому +47

      Perhaps the religious aspects of the Progenitor created an insular belief system, like "We Selkath were chosen to use the kolto wisely" or some such. If the Star map is Rakata force-attuned tech, then perhaps kolto might be "Force-bearing matter" or a variant of midichlorians?

    • @galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478
      @galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478 2 роки тому +8

      @@supercellodude Are you saying that either religion or the dark side of the force could have played a role in the Selkath being so secretive?

    • @supercellodude
      @supercellodude 2 роки тому +13

      @@galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478 probably both. Consider how the Jedi reacted to the Old Sith Empire being a civilization of dark side wielders

    • @galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478
      @galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478 2 роки тому +6

      @@supercellodude That is true, the force does affect individuals in strange ways. Even those who have little to no force sensitivity are affected by it in strange ways.

  • @CloneScavengerVulpin8389
    @CloneScavengerVulpin8389 2 роки тому +47

    Count dooku: "And finally, Mantu, your people were once a peaceful race. How far they have fallen."

  • @alwaysplotting2096
    @alwaysplotting2096 2 роки тому +172

    The Selkath: We don't believe sharing our knowledge with others will benefit us in the long run.
    The Sith: That is why you fail.

    • @geetslys
      @geetslys  2 роки тому +21

      *Sith music starts playing*

    • @violetroseinthedark3071
      @violetroseinthedark3071 2 роки тому +5

      @@geetslys Wasn't it Darth Andeddu who said, "Knowledge is power and true Sith don't share power?"

  • @OhOh996
    @OhOh996 2 роки тому +41

    “GET SOME KOLTO, DELTA”
    Wonder how it would’ve changed the Republic Commando memes

  • @JustAnotherUser565
    @JustAnotherUser565 2 роки тому +198

    I think one of the major reasons that Manaan able to go back to some relevance during the Clone Wars was because Thyferra seceded and join the CIS leaving the Republic to explore other options for medical supplies like third party bacta vendors, the bota of Drongar and of course kolto.

  • @indianajones4321
    @indianajones4321 2 роки тому +70

    It’s all fun and games until Vader gets an addiction to bacta

  • @supercellodude
    @supercellodude 2 роки тому +59

    As art reflecting life, the Selkath of Manaan serve as a warning for pinning so much of an economy to one resource

  • @Mandl7739
    @Mandl7739 2 роки тому +97

    There's a theory it used to be more potent but it started becoming less so as the Star map healed itself cause that healing was what was causing the kolto

  • @MkJamm
    @MkJamm 2 роки тому +160

    For such a life saving fluid it was, no one would ever expect bacta to have a horrible effect like this... RIP to the Selkath species of Manaan. May they sleep peacefully with the fishes 🐟

  • @deathmint69
    @deathmint69 2 роки тому +16

    Zapp: I hate these filthy Neutrals, Kif. With enemies you know where they stand but with Neutrals, who knows? It sickens me.
    Lol

  • @warhawk4494
    @warhawk4494 2 роки тому +58

    The Bacta Wars was the first star wars I ever bought with my own allowance money when I was a little kid in 96. I had other other books before that but my parents always bought them for me. So I'd love a video on the planet that makes bacta.

    • @Wraithspartan
      @Wraithspartan 2 роки тому +2

      In this book, and possibly in the Krytos Trap (bk. 3), a Vratix states that originally, the bacta trade was widespread, not limited entirely to Thyferra.

  • @10GaugeManiac
    @10GaugeManiac 2 роки тому +6

    7:06 "For reasons unknown, the Kolto supply dwindled.." *Whistles innocently*

  • @Idkidkidk716
    @Idkidkidk716 2 роки тому +63

    Imagine we had bacta in real life.

    • @Karlos1234ify
      @Karlos1234ify 2 роки тому +15

      It be expensive

    • @stefthorman8548
      @stefthorman8548 2 роки тому +2

      @MelloWattz it's literally bacteria, they can scale it up easily.

    • @geetslys
      @geetslys  2 роки тому +16

      That would be awesome

    • @jacobdavis6056
      @jacobdavis6056 2 роки тому +1

      @@stefthorman8548 if only it would work like that

    • @vitaminanime
      @vitaminanime 2 роки тому +3

      A lot of medical professionals would be out of work

  • @ryaquaza3offical
    @ryaquaza3offical 2 роки тому +12

    Selkath: you took everything from us!
    Vratix: I don’t even know who you are

  • @tactknightgaming2066
    @tactknightgaming2066 2 роки тому +14

    “Dante, in his Inferno, put those who are neutral in the everlasting fight between right and wrong in the lowest place in hell.”
    "The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality." - Dante Alighieri

  • @reginaldshort8486
    @reginaldshort8486 2 роки тому +8

    If I was a businessman I would buy a large amount Kolto, a PCL 27, and hundreds of cloning tanks and mass produce the fluid. I might add spices to improve effectiveness and then sell it to backwater worlds at a price cheaper than bacta. Controlling production and distribution would allow me to make a ridiculous profit. I’m surprised Lando never thought of it.

  • @jrrizzy5579
    @jrrizzy5579 2 роки тому +1

    Selkath: “Hey guys want some healing juice? :D”
    Sith: *Bomber sounds intensify*

  • @lerneanlion
    @lerneanlion 2 роки тому +34

    All of this talk about joining the Republic and the Clones Wars made me wonder about what are the benefits of joining the Republic in the first place. Sure, the Selkath did this to themselves. But when it come to the other worlds, their reasons to leave during the Clones Wars are legitimate due to the oppression and mistreatments by the Republic. Plus, by the time of the Clones Wars, we only heard about the majority of the planets in the Mid and the Outer Rims wanted to leave the Republic again and again. So what are the benefits of joining the Republic anyway?

    • @attila535
      @attila535 2 роки тому

      Mostly for protection I think. If you were in trouble, then the Republic was theoreticly there to back you up.

    • @lerneanlion
      @lerneanlion 2 роки тому +8

      @@attila535 But physically, they never do. To make it worse, they lazily solved the problem by assigning that job to the megacorporations instead.

    • @Elmithian
      @Elmithian 2 роки тому

      @@lerneanlion The "Republic" is pretty Apathetic and Incompetent in most time periods let's be fair.
      It is no surprise how often and how easily systems and planets were willing to go neutral or change sides from it.

    • @FalconWindblader
      @FalconWindblader 2 роки тому +7

      It depends on the period you're talking about. In the early millennia of the republic's formation, where like half the known galaxy had yet to even be discovered by the republic, & most definitely when the Siths were still an army, the republic had been much more sincere & involved in their dealings. Joining the republic at that period really did get a better deal at protection, other than the obvious benefit of getting way larger access to the galaxy for trade & stuff. That was back then, of course. We all know what the republic had been like for the past several hundreds of years before Palpatine came into picture.

  • @EnigmaShadow03
    @EnigmaShadow03 2 роки тому +3

    I love to hear about the aspects of Star Wars lore not spoken about enough, like corporations and stuff

  • @proudtennessean6152
    @proudtennessean6152 2 роки тому +6

    Narrator: “bacta destroyed a civilization!”
    Me: “they have done that themselves!”

  • @murderousintent7838
    @murderousintent7838 2 роки тому +42

    Selkath: We have the best healing agent ever
    [Vratix teleports behind them]
    Vratix: No longer.
    [The Vratix overheal the Selkath with bacta]

  • @maxblake5564
    @maxblake5564 Рік тому +2

    So, basically, Manaan’s Kolto trade was the Star Wars equivalent of ancient China’s silk trade.

  • @yuzzem64
    @yuzzem64 2 роки тому +10

    Great video on one of my favorite designed species but I'm curious why use so much clone wars era imagery (specifically all the clones and droids) in an old republic era topic? Looking forward to a video on the Vratix!

  • @marshalllatta2073
    @marshalllatta2073 2 роки тому +9

    I wish bacta were real better than go to a hospital

  • @mauricebarlow4844
    @mauricebarlow4844 2 роки тому +6

    Yes please make a video about theBacta Makers thank you and may the force be with you .

  • @ChronoTriggerHappy
    @ChronoTriggerHappy 2 роки тому

    "for reasons uknown" Revan: *sings shaggy* "WASN'T ME"

  • @greatazuredragon
    @greatazuredragon 2 роки тому +3

    Great video.
    Thanks for the update.

  • @ZoeMalDoran
    @ZoeMalDoran Рік тому +1

    Curiously, some sources say that kolto is actually better than bacta at dealing with certain injuries and illnesses, but bacta supplanted it by being more readily available and better for more things

    • @fabiocosta3830
      @fabiocosta3830 Рік тому

      I heard one of the reasons kolto could still be marketed is the fact it was hypoalergic. There are races that require different types of bacta because of allergic reactions to the mix, whereas kolto could be administered to nearly everyone.
      Kolto had peaks. If was too harvested, the source would produce a weaker version, and would take time to recover. On the other hand, bacta could be synthetized in any laboratory with all the materials, and it would stay consistent as long as the formula was followed. Kolto started as the best, but bacta was more acessible, and soon took the throne and was improved enough to be better in general than kolto.

  • @freshrot420
    @freshrot420 2 роки тому +1

    I'm always a fan of healing and it is awesome to see some background on these!

  • @fabiocosta3830
    @fabiocosta3830 Рік тому +1

    Also let me add some things.
    Like iron replacing bronze on our world, bacta initially was a weaker, but more available product. Plus, since is a synthetic product, it could be easily refined and improved. There was attempts to replicate kolto in laboratory, but there was never any results.
    Kolto also started to lose effectiveness. Could still heal, but was weaker than a few decades before. It is assumed was the result of overharvesting, tgat led the world to produce aweaker substance to support the excess of demand. By that time, however, bacta was already a powerful healing agent, and most labs could safely replicate it.
    By the time of the clone wars, kolto was very effective once more. However, was expensive, since was a natural profuct from a single world. The army was relting on bacta for centuries, and it was easily accessible, so only magisters and naturalists were interested in it.
    By the Galactic Empire era, Manaan was invaded, enslaved, and converted on a resort for the rich. However, kolto was harvested heavily once more, and sold cheaply to the masses, until the reserves depleted. Without any reason to stay there, the Empire abandoned manaan, leaving the people in poverty. Would take decades for the kolto supplies to recover, but by then Manaan was forgotten and isolated.

  • @cyberman62
    @cyberman62 2 роки тому +1

    Glad you did a video on this Manaan is my favourite planet from KOTOR I just really like water planets, hence why I Love Kamino as well.
    Plus the soundtrack of Ahto City is amazing. And I love the Selkath as a species.
    So again well done!

  • @delarrianriley6240
    @delarrianriley6240 2 роки тому +8

    I would like to hear about Thyferra

  • @funkeedarin
    @funkeedarin 2 роки тому +11

    I considered Bacta to be like stem cells in our world. I still say we need to fund Stem Cell Research. Read about it enough and you'll realize no baby murder required. Can safely extract them from healthy adults as well.

  • @RareWubbox1
    @RareWubbox1 2 роки тому +4

    So the selkath were basically Switzerland except instead of mountains it’s endless ocean.

  • @congresswallah
    @congresswallah 2 роки тому

    Thankyou boss for that great info. It was 🔥

  • @SuperOnePieceMaster
    @SuperOnePieceMaster 2 роки тому +17

    Serves them right for making Manaan such a boring, yawn-inducing planet.

    • @michaelandreipalon359
      @michaelandreipalon359 2 роки тому +5

      I don't know, I think Taris fits that bill. Really hate condescending, stagnant, and uncaring city planets.
      Plus, the ocean of Manaan sure is pretty to look at, even in a 18+ year old game.

  • @mikkelnpetersen
    @mikkelnpetersen 2 роки тому +2

    Just think about it, if someone discovered some new form of "wonder medicin" that would utherly replace fx. penicillin, it would pretty much spell the downfall of producers of the "old" product.

  • @Doryzitter
    @Doryzitter Рік тому

    Always wondered what happened to the Selkath after the Jedi Civil War. I get now why Dooku said that the Selkath used to be a mighty race, and they had since fallen from their former glory and prestige

  • @internetpleb4854
    @internetpleb4854 2 роки тому +3

    So essentially Manaan is the inverted Saudi Arabia of starwars instead of vast deserts its oceans both placing heavy reliance on one singular liquid resource

  • @vanyac6448
    @vanyac6448 2 роки тому +2

    So basically, Manaan then was a bit like the Qatar, U.A.E., or Saudi Arabia in today's world.
    And what happened to Manaan is what would happen to these countries if (for instance) algae biofuel ever becomes as cheap and easy to make as regular petroleum.

  • @jnort95
    @jnort95 2 роки тому +1

    The selcath are amazing !

  • @conan2096
    @conan2096 2 роки тому

    i love the selkath section of kotor...that and the rakghouls are the closest the game gets to zombies. also i like their fishy gurgles.

  • @clonecoric4140
    @clonecoric4140 2 роки тому +2

    Glad the Selkath remained in canon via Clone Wars.

  • @inquisitorichijou883
    @inquisitorichijou883 2 роки тому

    If the video about Thyferra and the Vratix also includes the Bacta War, I'm all for it.

  • @kingjellybean9795
    @kingjellybean9795 2 роки тому +2

    Kolto baby, play enough kotor to know that

  • @rexdelta3367
    @rexdelta3367 2 роки тому

    Lol the Sith counter offer was hilarious

  • @bennettsteifman8632
    @bennettsteifman8632 2 роки тому

    Amazing video.

  • @michaelandreipalon359
    @michaelandreipalon359 2 роки тому +19

    A pity. They would have been more sympathetic had they sided with the Republic in the Clone Wars. Even more so had they either stayed neutral or sided with the Rebels during the Dark Times.
    Wonder what real life medicinal parallels are connected with this "out with the old, in with the new" situation? Also reminds me of when the short lived Pony Express got replaced by the telegram.
    Oh, yes, please do the history of bacta.

  • @Karlos1234ify
    @Karlos1234ify 2 роки тому

    “Stop limping around and get some bacta, soldier."

  • @robertlau8721
    @robertlau8721 2 роки тому

    We need a video on the Blackwing Virus from Red Harvest and Death Troopers!!!

  • @fazbrogaming7776
    @fazbrogaming7776 2 роки тому +10

    In Star Wars canon however, Kolto was replaced by Bacta during the High Republic Era.

    • @peskymacaw9033
      @peskymacaw9033 2 роки тому +3

      Ok

    • @picklechin3061
      @picklechin3061 2 роки тому +7

      No one gives a fuck about canon

    • @pedrokantor3997
      @pedrokantor3997 2 роки тому +5

      Well Disney Canon doesn't respect old lore since they can't be bothered with reading it, so I won't respect it.

    • @fazbrogaming7776
      @fazbrogaming7776 2 роки тому +1

      @@pedrokantor3997 actually they do, I feel like the High republic is hugely inspired by Kotor, so many similarities. That’s why I love it so much. ♥️

  • @jamesirving484
    @jamesirving484 2 роки тому +1

    the selkath are the neutrals in futurama. cant change my mind

  • @docbaker3333
    @docbaker3333 2 роки тому

    essentially Mannan was space Venezuela both were nations that built their economy exclusively on the export of one product and suffered the consequences.

  • @marielawrence468
    @marielawrence468 2 роки тому +2

    Bacta, never fails!😏👌

  • @qiuentonhoagland67
    @qiuentonhoagland67 2 роки тому +1

    Hi
    Liked your video

  • @bon7029
    @bon7029 2 роки тому +1

    Bacta didn't destroy their civilization, greed did.

  • @jessewarren2757
    @jessewarren2757 2 роки тому +1

    On to the next video 📹

  • @zachall101
    @zachall101 2 роки тому

    So basically they became the alien star wars version of bioshocks rapture city🤔 just without the Adam drug…

  • @starkillerab1582
    @starkillerab1582 8 місяців тому

    Yeah can u do a video about the Thyferrans pls 🥺🥺🥺

  • @Miss_Trillium
    @Miss_Trillium 2 роки тому

    Before the vid starts, it's kolto--I remember it from KOTOR

  • @Mate397
    @Mate397 2 роки тому

    Huh, didn't know there was something before bacta.

  • @yaang9258
    @yaang9258 2 роки тому

    legends Thyferra was amazing

  • @nute775
    @nute775 2 роки тому

    Do a video on Red the Droid jedi. 😆

  • @OzarkAnarchist26
    @OzarkAnarchist26 2 роки тому

    Can you do more something about abeloth?

  • @echobase1648
    @echobase1648 2 роки тому

    Are you kidding...we have Bacta on Earth, I use it all the time. It's called Bactine! LOL 😉

  • @zexalbrony4799
    @zexalbrony4799 2 роки тому +1

    I say let's do the Tythero next. :)

    • @michaelandreipalon359
      @michaelandreipalon359 2 роки тому

      Tythero?

    • @zexalbrony4799
      @zexalbrony4799 2 роки тому +1

      @@michaelandreipalon359 I just pronounced how it sounded when Geetsly said it at the end of the video.
      If there's one thing Star Wars has taught me, besides that no one outside of Mace Windu dies from falling a great height, it's that many things in the Star Wars Universe are tough to spell.

    • @michaelandreipalon359
      @michaelandreipalon359 2 роки тому +1

      Ah, you meant Thyferra. That planet also featured in the fourth X-Wing novel The Bacta War.

  • @landito5378
    @landito5378 2 роки тому +3

    Let’s go first maybe?

  • @goldeagle6431
    @goldeagle6431 2 роки тому

    The Senate has no need for bacta since he is all powerful.

  • @jawafreak230
    @jawafreak230 2 роки тому

    *Intense Kotor flashbacks*

  • @darthsquid2107
    @darthsquid2107 2 роки тому

    Before even watching I wanted to just take a guess and say kolto.

  • @the_retag
    @the_retag 2 роки тому +1

    And then theres kolcta...

  • @tracylyell9440
    @tracylyell9440 Рік тому

    Yes to pytherons (sorry don't know spelling)

  • @theindooroutdoorsman
    @theindooroutdoorsman 2 роки тому

    I thought Bacta was store brand Kolto.

  • @---jx3ql
    @---jx3ql 2 роки тому

    Wasnt koltho the better one? I think they offerd it to wedge to fight that bioweappn on coruscant, and the one that offerd it was a slave by the bacta companies or so🤔

  • @RedSox3149
    @RedSox3149 2 роки тому

    Would love to see a video about Thyferra next

  • @googesowders2758
    @googesowders2758 2 роки тому

    Was that the same as shark in Phantom Mace?

  • @slicerneons3300
    @slicerneons3300 2 роки тому

    Sorry Fish people, now you know how Drongar and its mutating Bota feel.

  • @vitaminanime
    @vitaminanime 2 роки тому

    Were there any species that were allergic to bacta or to whom bacta was highly poisonous?

  • @callmealex69
    @callmealex69 2 роки тому

    Lol "thr sith responded by bombing them"

  • @bamboozle23k
    @bamboozle23k 2 роки тому

    👍👌

  • @randycheow4268
    @randycheow4268 2 роки тому

    Sith and Republic soldiers looking at each other on Manaan: da fuk they doing over there?

  • @permhaaland
    @permhaaland Рік тому

    not so much geopolitics as thalassopolitics, or maybe kosmopolitics.

  • @nailboard6492
    @nailboard6492 2 роки тому

    Never base your economy around a single resource.

  • @obitwokenobi9808
    @obitwokenobi9808 Рік тому

    Bacta killed the kolto star

  • @MCraven120
    @MCraven120 2 роки тому

    I hate the entire selkath species. The Stivastin boss fight in SWTOR was hell.

  • @inquisitorgarza312
    @inquisitorgarza312 2 роки тому +2

    Competition was always going cause more harm for some than for others.

  • @honooryu5374
    @honooryu5374 2 роки тому

    But what is the actual difference between the two?

    • @Dragon_Lair
      @Dragon_Lair Рік тому +1

      Bacta is easier to produce, heals injuries faster and was generally cheaper.
      It did what kolto did but faster.

    • @honooryu5374
      @honooryu5374 Рік тому

      @@Dragon_Lair Yeah, I did some research and found interesting lore about it. Apparently it's way of production was also not kept as a secret, as the race who invented it wanted to help as many as possible. They are nice bug people.

    • @Dragon_Lair
      @Dragon_Lair Рік тому

      @@honooryu5374 Yup.
      The Bane novel also goes into it. When Darth Bane was a trooper he talks about how Kolto had become a last resort in the galaxy. Standard bacta treatment would get a soldier on the verge of death back up to strength in a day but Kolto treatment would take 5 days.
      When it comes down to it, both are miraculous but bacta is just better.
      Another key difference between them is that bacta is 100% manufactured and Kolto is 100% natural.

  • @terminatevader
    @terminatevader 2 роки тому

    iOS vs Android

  • @mandyoconnor6745
    @mandyoconnor6745 2 роки тому +1

    bruh i meant first

  • @mandyoconnor6745
    @mandyoconnor6745 2 роки тому

    second