Hmmm why do I smell fish fr... God dammit frank they wernt talking about yo wife they were talking about the other peace you Damm cephalopod no you don't get another chance get into the deep fryer
I can actually see how both sides thought and would make the decisions they did. One species grew in relative peace while the other had to fight just to stay where they were. It's not surprising the Mon Calamari and Quaran would view things differently especially when it comes to change. For the Mon Calamari it brought great positive while for the Quaran it brought hardship and death. No wonder the Mon Calamari were so welcoming to newcomers while the Quaran were always suspicious.
Yeah kinda like in real life. So many times you hear of groups of people who absolutely hate each other group together to get rid of a common foe and try and make their land better. Cough cough Afghanistan and Russia 😂 but for real tho it’s kinda nice
@@TheCommissarIsDead If only a similar situation would've happened between the ottoman empire and the Armenians, then the Armenian genocide would have probably never happened. However, I wouldn't have been born in that case.
In canon, we know that chancellor Lina soh hoped to push through a quarren-Mon Calamari treaty, yet it seems she failed if their conflict was lasting into the clone wars
Considering the Siths long plan was well underway (if anything it was closer to fruition than its starting point) I'd bet a dollar or two that they had more than a little to do with ensuring those plans didn't come to be. After all pretty much everything she wanted to do revolved around peaceful integration of the outer rim and contact with those beyond as well as solidifying republic holdings. Which would have been in direct opposition and set back the Siths plan centuries if not outright murdered it.
@Lord of D Of course. But as Sidious plan was started by Plagueis who was well and alive at that time and was actively putting pieces into place it seems a likely bet. But yeah, I guess we don't know officially until then, but I wouldn't be surprised.
Biological speaking both species will have been competing for the resources of their homeworld, their are no doubts that both species went to countless of conflicts because of this, and that not taking into account of ideological and cultural differences.
Yeah but you’d HOPE that sapient species could evolve together and develop a cooperative society. That being said, humans just working with each other doesn’t always seem to work
@@rickyrobby8133 unless you have some kind of leverage there is no way you can just ask everyone to get along. There will always be something to fight about.
@@rickyrobby8133 Honestly, sapient species evolving and working together to form a mutually beneficial society is near impossible dream. We're just 1 species on Earth and we already have half a foot into mutually assured destruction LMAO
"I got us some pizza but I wasn't sure if you'd like some calamari pizza since it has a 50 percent chance of being squid and a 50 percent chance of containing your species"
I remember a part from the noverl Isard's Revenge where Wedge and his squad infiltrated the Ciutric Hegemony to take out Delak Krennel. One member was a Quarren and as a cover story, he told Krennel that he joined the imperial loyalists because it allowed him to kill Mon Calamari; invoking the old interspecies rivalry to make the cover more believable.
Just like certain organizations joining certain agencies because it enables them to enact revenge fantasies on certain populations. From a certain point of view.
I actually just rewatched this arc last night. As fascinating as it was, I wish that we got to see more of Riff Tamson’s people in the show. Was not expecting Riff to bite into Padmé’s helmet when I first watched it.
I love the fact how we just end where it's all good and leave out the part where there ends up being an entire mon cala genocide on Dac 100 years later
It is interesting in The Mandalorian the offworlder Mon Cal and Quarren can exist relatively in peace. Even if the Mon Cal seem more industrious and Quarren still coming off to "gangster" mentality.
Yeah and from this video, they seem coded as Native Americans, with the younglings taken and raised to be civilised, which doesn't look very good either. It's always more interesting to view things from both sides, such as in the Clone Wars episodes where they visit the separatist senate or how they show that there is also corruption in the Republic and the Jedi Order.
@@mauritsponnette I saw them more as evoluée in French Africa or assimilado in the Portuguese Empire, but either way it could be a plus for representing historical forced assimilation.
@@jamiewalsh3349 actually that's a horrible commander. Basically anyone higher ranking than an army captain has no business being anywhere near the front lines.
I mean... slug throwers are still around in the Star Wars universe on the black market. You could probably rechamber it to fire flechettes to use underwater.
@@Gamerguy826 The premise of Star Wars is that it happened a long, long time ago in a galaxy far away. I can't use that kind of logic in my mind, slugthrowers being present or no
Yeah. But in all honesty (to me at least) Han Solo very clearly uses a C-96 broomhandle pistol, and most Storm troopers (from the O.G. trilogy at least) very clearly use 9mm carbines, and German M.G.s. But I tell myself they're blasters cause it's Star Wars. Maybe, it just looks like a B.A.R., and actually it's some kind of Star wars alien blaster or something. Dunno, but apparently lots of the firearm type weapons in the Star wars galaxy look a lot like guns we already have here on Earth. Wonder why that might be?
"The Empire retaliated by destroying three Mon Calamari cities from orbit, but this only intensified the resistance, which blossomed into open rebellion." Just goes to show that the Tarkin doctrine worked early on, but it eventually started to backfire, because Tarkin was a tactical moron. He did have vision, but he lacked the strategic genius of someone like Thrawn. His doctrine is what ended up killing the Empire, as it only failed to give actual results. The Tarkin doctrine was getting more Imperial troops killed than killing the enemy.
These dudes are so peaceful! Thousands of years of hating each other and being totally different but never devolving into genocide! We genocided each other a bunch of times in the last 100 years alone and only for minute differences
@@გიორგიმოსაშვილი-ო3დ yeah they really should. They used chemical weapons and all kinda stuff just to wipe them out. Reminds me I should read the legacy comics again
One of the most underrated artist in the shell the story was pretty good but the world and like the way they handled things under water was pretty sick
Two roughly equivalent sentient species on one planet. I expect nothing less than eventual speciecide or at least the flight of the defeated if that option is at all available. Logical and nearly inevitable. Consider the Zhell and Taung at the dawn of Galactic history.
The Hutts vs. the Evocii I don't know if they're canon and if there is anything to talk about, but I always found them interesting when playing SWTOR. Great video as always!
When I was young my father first put on Star Wars 4,5,6 after he re bought them at half price books. I remember him putting the dvd in the dvd/vhs player and a whole new world opened up. Long story short I remember always telling my dad how admiral ackbar or however you spell it was always ugly and freaked me out a little bit. Now I’m like those are the boys 😂
Imagine being elected as a representative for several planets, only to become corrupt, support slavery, seceding not only yourself but your entire sector from the galactic government in fear of getting punished for it.
You forgot to mention the important event where Jedi Master An’ya Kuro was shot and nearly killed by a skittish quarren. Never under estimate the power of a skittish quarren
Meanwhile on a video sharing website in a galaxy far, far away: “Why the Black people and the White people absolutely hated each other” Please do not ban me
You forgot to mention the relationship during the Legacy Era. Darth Krayt ordered a mass extermination of Mon Calamari with some Quaren aiding. Not to mention the Final Protocol.
Wow absolutely fascinating, had no idea this was a thing in the star wars universe lol. I knew that humans especially imperials hated on aliens that couldn't pass as human like, but I didn't know that there was this type of conflict.
The Quarren would eventually lead to the destruction of Dac when they sided with Darth Krayt. Even the Aliance didn't have sympathy for them at this point as they were complacent if not encouraging in the genocide that had preceded.
Is this from canon? I ask because there are Quarren on Nar Shada in the time of Revan and the Exile, and that was more than 1000 years before the collapse of the Republic.
These guys are interesting. I've heard of rivalries lasting a long time, but they had a very long rivalry. Also, say what you will about the Galactic Empire, but at least they, albeit unintentionally, managed to end the rivalry between these two species. XD
*Everyone else having deep discussions about politics and society *me at 4:13 “Is the a BAR?!?!” Also on that note, does anyone happen to know which blaster that is?
Didn’t the Quarren support Krayt’s One Sith Empire during the Legacy era? When Darth Wyrrlock ordered the genocide of all life on Dac, I thought Darth Azard, who was leading the occupation of Dac, said that the Quarren were allies to the One Sith.
What I don’t understand is why the republic chose to intervene with this conflict, but not the one on like alderon or however it’s spelt. It’s like they picked and choose which conflicts they thought was a good idea to get involved.
Will this unity lasted? Only time can tell. Also, a new sector that can emerged as a new power after the fall of the First Order is added into the list.
Mon Calamari: Subnautica early game
Quarren: Subnautica late game
Haha 😆 I just started playing subnautica too, never played it before, now I'm really interested
The Mon Cala: “….We come in peace, chill out…”
The Quarren: “what the hell did you just say about my wife?!?”
"Oh I get it his wife is named-"
**gets shot in the face**
@@Geolaminar HAHAHA!!!
Hmmm why do I smell fish fr... God dammit frank they wernt talking about yo wife they were talking about the other peace you Damm cephalopod no you don't get another chance get into the deep fryer
"Never thought il die side by side with a Quarren"
-"How about side by side with a friend?"
"Aye, i could do that"
That's basically the last episode of the Mon Calamari arc in the Clone Wars
Legolas and Gimli support your comment lol.
I can actually see how both sides thought and would make the decisions they did. One species grew in relative peace while the other had to fight just to stay where they were. It's not surprising the Mon Calamari and Quaran would view things differently especially when it comes to change. For the Mon Calamari it brought great positive while for the Quaran it brought hardship and death. No wonder the Mon Calamari were so welcoming to newcomers while the Quaran were always suspicious.
Yep, that is a pretty accurate judgement of how it went for the two races.
I never understood why Ackbar's species was said to look like squid. I've always thought they looked like goldfish instead.
I can kind of see the squid resemblance, but they remind me more of lobsters or crayfish.
It seems like a mix of everything lol
The Quarren definitely look more like squids than the Mon Cala. The Mon Cala definitely look like fish of sorts.
Yeah they look more fishlike than anything
I thought they were crab like since they always seemed to have chitinous skin
I find it kind of sweet how it took imperial occupation for the Mon Calamari and the Quarren to finally find a strong union between each other.
Yeah kinda like in real life. So many times you hear of groups of people who absolutely hate each other group together to get rid of a common foe and try and make their land better. Cough cough Afghanistan and Russia 😂 but for real tho it’s kinda nice
@@TheCommissarIsDead If only a similar situation would've happened between the ottoman empire and the Armenians, then the Armenian genocide would have probably never happened. However, I wouldn't have been born in that case.
Just goes to show how great the Galactic Empire was, uniting everyone like that. They also lowered Alderaan's unemployment rate
In canon, we know that chancellor Lina soh hoped to push through a quarren-Mon Calamari treaty, yet it seems she failed if their conflict was lasting into the clone wars
seems about right Captain
He also hoped for some bitches
@Lord of D old republic
Considering the Siths long plan was well underway (if anything it was closer to fruition than its starting point) I'd bet a dollar or two that they had more than a little to do with ensuring those plans didn't come to be. After all pretty much everything she wanted to do revolved around peaceful integration of the outer rim and contact with those beyond as well as solidifying republic holdings. Which would have been in direct opposition and set back the Siths plan centuries if not outright murdered it.
@Lord of D Of course. But as Sidious plan was started by Plagueis who was well and alive at that time and was actively putting pieces into place it seems a likely bet. But yeah, I guess we don't know officially until then, but I wouldn't be surprised.
Biological speaking both species will have been competing for the resources of their homeworld, their are no doubts that both species went to countless of conflicts because of this, and that not taking into account of ideological and cultural differences.
Yeah but you’d HOPE that sapient species could evolve together and develop a cooperative society. That being said, humans just working with each other doesn’t always seem to work
They should've competed for some bitches instead
Agreed, there were so many differences between the two, so it was almost inevitable that these conflicts would occur
@@rickyrobby8133 unless you have some kind of leverage there is no way you can just ask everyone to get along. There will always be something to fight about.
@@rickyrobby8133 Honestly, sapient species evolving and working together to form a mutually beneficial society is near impossible dream. We're just 1 species on Earth and we already have half a foot into mutually assured destruction LMAO
I love the Mon Calamari but if I ever met one, I would probably accidentally say "Nice to eat you, I mean meet you."
Lol
And they'd say "wouldn't It be nicer to get some bitches"
"I got us some pizza but I wasn't sure if you'd like some calamari pizza since it has a 50 percent chance of being squid and a 50 percent chance of containing your species"
Hahahaha. I would probably say the same thing 😂
"Accidentally"
This is one of my favorite arc of the clone wars so freaking cool such advanced technology
You know what else is freaking cool? Getting bitches
It was definitely an underrated arc, to say the least!
Facts
@@helghannationalist9798 then go get some
I’d be curious to see this as a series of you’re interested. Another episode could be Trandosans and Wookiees.
I remember a part from the noverl Isard's Revenge where Wedge and his squad infiltrated the Ciutric Hegemony to take out Delak Krennel.
One member was a Quarren and as a cover story, he told Krennel that he joined the imperial loyalists because it allowed him to kill Mon Calamari; invoking the old interspecies rivalry to make the cover more believable.
Aye, just finished the book again Yesterday night on my nightshift xD
Just like certain organizations joining certain agencies because it enables them to enact revenge fantasies on certain populations. From a certain point of view.
I actually just rewatched this arc last night. As fascinating as it was, I wish that we got to see more of Riff Tamson’s people in the show. Was not expecting Riff to bite into Padmé’s helmet when I first watched it.
I love the fact how we just end where it's all good and leave out the part where there ends up being an entire mon cala genocide on Dac 100 years later
Somewhat sad that it took an outside threat for the Mon Cala and the Quarren to form a true alliance.
Sad that it would take that for humanity to get along
@@OrigamiMaster06 "peace is a lie there is only passion..."
Its not sad. Thats just how real life is. The USA and the USSR also went immediately back to hating eachother after WW2.
@@OrigamiMaster06 thete will always be something to fight about. You can only gain peace through subjugation.
It is interesting in The Mandalorian the offworlder Mon Cal and Quarren can exist relatively in peace. Even if the Mon Cal seem more industrious and Quarren still coming off to "gangster" mentality.
It seems pretty common to portray the Quarran as the bad guys in media. Pity, since I prefer their designs more.
Yeah and from this video, they seem coded as Native Americans, with the younglings taken and raised to be civilised, which doesn't look very good either.
It's always more interesting to view things from both sides, such as in the Clone Wars episodes where they visit the separatist senate or how they show that there is also corruption in the Republic and the Jedi Order.
@@mauritsponnette I saw them more as evoluée in French Africa or assimilado in the Portuguese Empire, but either way it could be a plus for representing historical forced assimilation.
I remember that shark guy commander being an absolute Savage
And actually fighting on the front lines rather than giving out orders from the rear. That's what you call a great commander.
@@jamiewalsh3349 b-b-but evil seperatist muh!
@@jamiewalsh3349 actually that's a horrible commander. Basically anyone higher ranking than an army captain has no business being anywhere near the front lines.
4:23 Has me geekin' that's clearly a Mon Cal holding a .30-.06 BAR from WWII
I was looking for this comment
@@eyesofstatic9641 I wish I had the gif of the "MY EYES" dude from the Spongebob movie
I mean... slug throwers are still around in the Star Wars universe on the black market. You could probably rechamber it to fire flechettes to use underwater.
@@Gamerguy826 The premise of Star Wars is that it happened a long, long time ago in a galaxy far away. I can't use that kind of logic in my mind, slugthrowers being present or no
Yeah. But in all honesty (to me at least) Han Solo very clearly uses a C-96 broomhandle pistol, and most Storm troopers (from the O.G. trilogy at least) very clearly use 9mm carbines, and German M.G.s. But I tell myself they're blasters cause it's Star Wars. Maybe, it just looks like a B.A.R., and actually it's some kind of Star wars alien blaster or something. Dunno, but apparently lots of the firearm type weapons in the Star wars galaxy look a lot like guns we already have here on Earth. Wonder why that might be?
13:11 that's like literally an intact BAR lmfao
Not even like the Lewis without the mag, this one is as intact as possible
Ah, the Empire... bringing people together! What swell chaps they were!
Well at least they came together to fight the space facists.
Never thought I needed a 3 episode arc of some squids aided by a shark fighting fish, humans, and amphibians
It’s amazing that they are even able to live on the same planet given with how much they fight each other.
That's literally the rivarly of France with England and then when they united to defeat germany.
There was going to be another mon cala arc which featured tikkes, nossor ri, and the third one, dont remember their name.
"The Empire retaliated by destroying three Mon Calamari cities from orbit, but this only intensified the resistance, which blossomed into open rebellion."
Just goes to show that the Tarkin doctrine worked early on, but it eventually started to backfire, because Tarkin was a tactical moron. He did have vision, but he lacked the strategic genius of someone like Thrawn. His doctrine is what ended up killing the Empire, as it only failed to give actual results. The Tarkin doctrine was getting more Imperial troops killed than killing the enemy.
4:12 aww baby calamari
I see why my beloved Quarren did what they did.
These dudes are so peaceful! Thousands of years of hating each other and being totally different but never devolving into genocide!
We genocided each other a bunch of times in the last 100 years alone and only for minute differences
You literally took the wrong plants as an example. The mom cala genocide was one of the most brutal in history during Darth Krayt's era
@@kiyanhakim384 really? I had no idea, they should make a video on that
@@გიორგიმოსაშვილი-ო3დ yeah they really should. They used chemical weapons and all kinda stuff just to wipe them out.
Reminds me I should read the legacy comics again
@@kiyanhakim384 sheesh that's messed up! Also chemical weapons in the water sounds even worse
One of the most underrated artist in the shell the story was pretty good but the world and like the way they handled things under water was pretty sick
Now that's a question I've always wondered about!
It's funny, i'm watching this arc in the cw
The mon-kala arc was my favourite clone wars arc
Two roughly equivalent sentient species on one planet. I expect nothing less than eventual speciecide or at least the flight of the defeated if that option is at all available. Logical and nearly inevitable. Consider the Zhell and Taung at the dawn of Galactic history.
2:45 If only the Bilars were cute like the Moappa. Those are some cute jellyfish.
Today I learned that the Mon Calamari had residential schools 😳🥺😨
Space Atlantis
Spacelantis, even
The Hutts vs. the Evocii
I don't know if they're canon and if there is anything to talk about, but I always found them interesting when playing SWTOR.
Great video as always!
Honestly watching this and I’m craving for mon calamari pizza
Mon calamari are people too, apparently
@@adamburditt3941 And? They can’t be delicious? 😏
@The Salty Constitutionalist ehh, fuck it. Just deep fry em whole
What's more amazing to me is on a planet with that much water and very little land there's enough resources to build cities and space ships
Prime example of missunderstanding from both sides can screw up national relationships.
The mon calamarians made it worse by kidnapping their kids.
@@kanekikingstorm2113 The Quarren didn’t really helped by attacking them on sight. Both side have their share of wrong in the whole story.
Peace is often difficult to obtain but worth it.
When I was young my father first put on Star Wars 4,5,6 after he re bought them at half price books. I remember him putting the dvd in the dvd/vhs player and a whole new world opened up. Long story short I remember always telling my dad how admiral ackbar or however you spell it was always ugly and freaked me out a little bit. Now I’m like those are the boys 😂
these two species should settle things with pod racing, it is a *race war,* after all.
(ba dum tss!)
Hey, I didn’t know that the Mon Cala military was issued M1918 BARs (at 4:14)
Imagine being elected as a representative for several planets, only to become corrupt, support slavery, seceding not only yourself but your entire sector from the galactic government in fear of getting punished for it.
4:15 I guess the BAR is effective even in the Star Wars universe
Volunteers that explains a lot about the molavolence leaking it’s ion pulse on itself
4:16 BAR moment
You forgot to mention the important event where Jedi Master An’ya Kuro was shot and nearly killed by a skittish quarren.
Never under estimate the power of a skittish quarren
Meanwhile on a video sharing website in a galaxy far, far away:
“Why the Black people and the White people absolutely hated each other”
Please do not ban me
Tattooine, Dantooine, Mintooine....seems like all these planets are being named with the same language roots...
You forgot to mention the relationship during the Legacy Era. Darth Krayt ordered a mass extermination of Mon Calamari with some Quaren aiding. Not to mention the Final Protocol.
Thought it was gonna be a sebulba and anakin racing video. Not disappointed.
For any of my history nerds out there it’s basically Athens versus Sparta but the Spartan military Was not that great
Wow absolutely fascinating, had no idea this was a thing in the star wars universe lol.
I knew that humans especially imperials hated on aliens that couldn't pass as human like, but I didn't know that there was this type of conflict.
Every single time I hear Mon Calamari it makes me hungry
Are you telling me that ackbars species kept falling in to saying "It's A Trap"
I either forgot or didn't know they designated a planet as "New Alderaan", imagine being asked what happened to the old one XD
Hey geetsly’s, did the jedi ever execute people and if yes. How did they do it (humanely)?
Maybe they should've executed on getting some bitches
@@helghannationalist9798 oh shit it looks like anakin is a master at something after all
@@dejanvandemerbel2724 ;)
Yes they did, and they just slaughter or assassinate anyone who disagrees with them.
I don’t think the jedi ever did execute them but if they were too powerful to imprison then they’d strip the person of their force powers.
Would you rather have to Negotiate peace between the mon calamari and quaran or between the wookies and trandoshans
Always thought that the original contention between the Quarren and Calamari weren't solved in the Clone Wars.
11:32 is that maria hill??? Multiverse of madness confirmed
Also if its her no wonder there defence didn't hold up
Why couldn't the republic stop the huts
Corrupt senators
Kept bribing them with free Pizza.
Wow, this story ended well.
I love this show i watched it many times over
I wanna know about that shark race.
In 1983, the quarren figurine was named "squid head"
What about the Trandoshans and the Wookies?
They did better than we did. We did not coexist with our neighbours, and now there is exactly one species of human on this planet.
The Quarren would eventually lead to the destruction of Dac when they sided with Darth Krayt. Even the Aliance didn't have sympathy for them at this point as they were complacent if not encouraging in the genocide that had preceded.
4:15 Mon Calamari got the B.A.R
So basically the Mon Calamari created their own residential school system..
that talking shark had a lot to do with that
There can be only one Squid Highlander.
Well, I had been asking for a video on the Battle of Mon Cala during the Clone Wars. This is close enough. Like. :)
Sounds like the space version of water romans
The feud is just as bad as the Kaleesh-Bitthævrian conflict
Good to see the story has a happy ending!
The Mon Calamari pulled Canadian move kidnapping and educating native
Oh, if only these guys were friendlier towards each other.
Fish Wars!
i thought this was gonna talk about how fast their cars are
The moral is share your resources and treat all your planets species equally.
4:14 for does that don't know, after WW1 the USA sold surplus BAR to Mon Cala
Is this from canon? I ask because there are Quarren on Nar Shada in the time of Revan and the Exile, and that was more than 1000 years before the collapse of the Republic.
I always thought they both looked like monsters
These guys are interesting. I've heard of rivalries lasting a long time, but they had a very long rivalry.
Also, say what you will about the Galactic Empire, but at least they, albeit unintentionally, managed to end the rivalry between these two species. XD
*Everyone else having deep discussions about politics and society
*me at 4:13
“Is the a BAR?!?!”
Also on that note, does anyone happen to know which blaster that is?
Great video!!
Didn’t the Quarren support Krayt’s One Sith Empire during the Legacy era? When Darth Wyrrlock ordered the genocide of all life on Dac, I thought Darth Azard, who was leading the occupation of Dac, said that the Quarren were allies to the One Sith.
Very cool! Loved this video.
What I don’t understand is why the republic chose to intervene with this conflict, but not the one on like alderon or however it’s spelt. It’s like they picked and choose which conflicts they thought was a good idea to get involved.
As Generation Tech once said, never trust a Quarren, ever.
You should do a video of riff tamson and his species I’m really interested in them
4:15 why is a mon calamari holding a browning automatic rifle
Shame about what happens to the peoples of Dac after that. In the Expanded Universe of course. The one that matters.
The Senate was the middle man between these two peoples.
Will this unity lasted? Only time can tell. Also, a new sector that can emerged as a new power after the fall of the First Order is added into the list.