I have the same blind and boat and the same complaints. I think I'm going to install snaps for the top to get rid of the Velcro because it does fall quite often. I don't have a dog sometimes I go out so I thought about doing snaps vertically on the back near the motor to make an easier way in and out as well. Great blind besides those few complaints, but I still highly recommend it.
At 5:40 you say you’d like the blind to stretch to the front more. On my Beavertail blind I can tighten the stretch cord on either side and tie it off tighter.
@@BadAtHunting I’ve only had it for 6 months. I did get the 1700 for my 648. I do use additional bungee cords to hold the blind to the boat in front and back
I have the same boat and was looking at a beavertail 1600 glad I found this video. Didn't know you can take the three hatches and open it all up. I do have a question or two, if we have it setup of being fully open can you use the bow and back elevated section for a hunter? Also I am concerned about the metal cross bar just in front of the outboard I can see it is covering the door over the fuel tank? Also how is it with the tiller handle will it be all the way down or do you need to run it up?
yes, the front and back decks can be used with a hunter, and the metal brace bar does cover the access door to the gas tank. the titler handle on mine worked fine, just as it normally would.
God I'm glad I found this vid. Ordered. But! question for you from a newb: where do you get that grass? Is that literally just from a hay bail? Thanks Jebediah!
To hide the motor and bow of the boat, it looks like you could just add a lot more grass to it and it would cover it up more/better. Not a perfect solution, but an economical way to fix the issue.
@@BadAtHunting Thanks for the response. I found it in the comments after I posted the question, it definitely helps. I would have been walking around in circles in a Michaels or something worse looking for this stuff! :-)
Yeah, check that website out - their stuff is a bit cheaper, and I actually like it better than some other brands. Unfortunately I can’t add more grass in the back because if it do the blind won’t fold back up and fit inside the travel cover. I have 16lbs of grass on it, and that’s about as much as I can fit.
One more question for you when grassing our blind you start from the bottom loops on the blind and work your way up. When attaching grass to the loops of the blind, do you use tie zips or grab a handful of grass fold it in half and loop the grass through the blind loop?
Do the ducks actually get tricked by this if it’s just floating in the middle of the water? I’ve thought about getting one but I always wonder if it would actually trick them
Yeah, it works better if it’s tucked up alongside some other brush/trees. There was a couple times I just parked it in the middle of the river and I still got ducks.
@BadAtHunting if you try it let me know. I was going to make my own. But I lost my boat last summer in an accident. So I would like to see someone try it
lack of a dog door is a big negative....I have the 1700 on my 1654 Grizzly Tracker....the blind is a shade too big and the motor gets in the way of the scissor frame. can't tilt the motor up. I've been turning thoughts through my head on how to get a dog door in there without taking to a canvas shop....they are not going to like all the grass all over the blind to do their work. I may just cut a semi-circle and call it a day.
Yeah, I totally understand. I’ve tried to figure out what I’m going to do about a dog door too. I can’t believe they don’t have one sewn in from the factory. If you come up with a good option, let me know - I’d be curious to hear how you solved the problem.
IM looking at getting one of these blinds for my tracker grizzly 1754 sc. How do you yourself get in and out of the blind? lift the bar and crawl under?
Yeah the entire blind folds onto one side, so you just flip it up, and get out from it. The trouble I did have was for my dog. On every retrieve we’d have to flip the blind over to let him out/back in. Beavertail does sell a ‘dog door’- but we never had one put in.
Hey man cool vid. I just got a beavertail. I’ve got a question. So when you bolt the support elbows to the hinge piece do you tighten them all the way down? Or just enough to hold them in place? Thanks
If I’m understanding your question right, you tighten them but not so much that it’s locked down. If it’s helpful, check out beavertail’s assembly video here on UA-cam - they go pretty in depth.
They make dog doors that you can sew into the side, but I haven’t done that. Most of the time he just sits ‘exposed’ on the bow. The ducks don’t seem to mind.
To hide your outboard. Get a cheap outboard cover. Then hot glue the grass to the cover. Complete outboard concealment. Easy to put on and take off. Been doing it that way for years.
Jason did you ever get a blind? I also have a 1652 VT which is 75in beam length. I measured out where the 1700 would fit on my boat and where it would sit on the front of my boat and it would be about 48in wide which is too narrow for that size blind. I know it says 72' max beam for the 1600 series so curious if you were able to make it work.
@@jasony724 Thanks. Please let me know how the 1700 fits as the website says it 2ft longer than the 1600. I posed on beavertail fan page on FB about the 1600 on a 75" wide boat and got back responses that it will not fit with the standard cross bars that sit on the gunnels it maxes as 72". 1700 might be the only option through...
Thanks man, I was wondering how my lab would get in and out
No problem man. :)
I have the same blind and boat and the same complaints. I think I'm going to install snaps for the top to get rid of the Velcro because it does fall quite often. I don't have a dog sometimes I go out so I thought about doing snaps vertically on the back near the motor to make an easier way in and out as well. Great blind besides those few complaints, but I still highly recommend it.
Yeah, I totally agree. It’s a great blind, but there are a few things that could make it better.
Do you guys think magnets sowed would work?
Yes, please send info on the where and king of grass you covered the blind with, thanks.
Hey, I got it from a website- jstern co. They offer different colors, I went with the classic pack. Hope that helps.
Best video I have found on this blind so far. Have you looked into the flip top for this?
Thanks man, I appreciate that. I looked at the flip top, but decided I wanted the visibility over the added concealment.
At 5:40 you say you’d like the blind to stretch to the front more. On my Beavertail blind I can tighten the stretch cord on either side and tie it off tighter.
@@BadAtHunting I’ve only had it for 6 months. I did get the 1700 for my 648. I do use additional bungee cords to hold the blind to the boat in front and back
Great video! I’ll be checking out more of your stuff. How does the blind affect driving? Does the blind get in the way of steering?
I have the same boat and was looking at a beavertail 1600 glad I found this video. Didn't know you can take the three hatches and open it all up. I do have a question or two, if we have it setup of being fully open can you use the bow and back elevated section for a hunter? Also I am concerned about the metal cross bar just in front of the outboard I can see it is covering the door over the fuel tank? Also how is it with the tiller handle will it be all the way down or do you need to run it up?
yes, the front and back decks can be used with a hunter, and the metal brace bar does cover the access door to the gas tank.
the titler handle on mine worked fine, just as it normally would.
Do you run into any problems with the blind frame interfering with your tiller handle?
Not how it’s set up now, but if I remember correctly - at the beginning I had to mess with it a bit.
God I'm glad I found this vid. Ordered.
But! question for you from a newb: where do you get that grass? Is that literally just from a hay bail? Thanks Jebediah!
@benca101 glad it was helpful.
I got the blind grass from JStern Co.
Spin the blind around. Front cover will actually cover the motor really well
Thanks, I’ll have to give that a try.
To hide the motor and bow of the boat, it looks like you could just add a lot more grass to it and it would cover it up more/better. Not a perfect solution, but an economical way to fix the issue.
The craft store was jstern.com - hopefully that helps.
@@BadAtHunting Thanks for the response. I found it in the comments after I posted the question, it definitely helps. I would have been walking around in circles in a Michaels or something worse looking for this stuff! :-)
Yeah, check that website out - their stuff is a bit cheaper, and I actually like it better than some other brands.
Unfortunately I can’t add more grass in the back because if it do the blind won’t fold back up and fit inside the travel cover. I have 16lbs of grass on it, and that’s about as much as I can fit.
Great vid man
Thanks. I appreciate the feedback.
So I have a grizzly tracker 1654 so you’re saying I need to get a 1800 model
If I had to do it again, yeah I’d go with a 1800.
The 1600 does fit fine, with the only exception being the motor isn’t fully covered.
I have a 1400 and it’s small on a 14’ … upsize like you said
I totally agree.
One more question for you when grassing our blind you start from the bottom loops on the blind and work your way up. When attaching grass to the loops of the blind, do you use tie zips or grab a handful of grass fold it in half and loop the grass through the blind loop?
Do the ducks actually get tricked by this if it’s just floating in the middle of the water? I’ve thought about getting one but I always wonder if it would actually trick them
Yeah, it works better if it’s tucked up alongside some other brush/trees. There was a couple times I just parked it in the middle of the river and I still got ducks.
What about really strong magnets. Like strip magnets
that's a good idea. I'll have to check it out.
@BadAtHunting if you try it let me know. I was going to make my own. But I lost my boat last summer in an accident. So I would like to see someone try it
Can you send a link to the grass that you purchased? And how many feet you used? Thanks!
I think is was JStern and Co - and i believe the amount was 15 pounds.
lack of a dog door is a big negative....I have the 1700 on my 1654 Grizzly Tracker....the blind is a shade too big and the motor gets in the way of the scissor frame. can't tilt the motor up.
I've been turning thoughts through my head on how to get a dog door in there without taking to a canvas shop....they are not going to like all the grass all over the blind to do their work. I may just cut a semi-circle and call it a day.
Yeah, I totally understand. I’ve tried to figure out what I’m going to do about a dog door too. I can’t believe they don’t have one sewn in from the factory. If you come up with a good option, let me know - I’d be curious to hear how you solved the problem.
IM looking at getting one of these blinds for my tracker grizzly 1754 sc. How do you yourself get in and out of the blind? lift the bar and crawl under?
Yeah the entire blind folds onto one side, so you just flip it up, and get out from it.
The trouble I did have was for my dog. On every retrieve we’d have to flip the blind over to let him out/back in. Beavertail does sell a ‘dog door’- but we never had one put in.
How did you attach the grass to your duck blind.
Is has stubble straps on the side, just get some grass and loop it through.
Hey man cool vid. I just got a beavertail. I’ve got a question. So when you bolt the support elbows to the hinge piece do you tighten them all the way down? Or just enough to hold them in place? Thanks
If I’m understanding your question right, you tighten them but not so much that it’s locked down. If it’s helpful, check out beavertail’s assembly video here on UA-cam - they go pretty in depth.
How would this fit on a gatortail haul 1754
Where do you run your dog from?
They make dog doors that you can sew into the side, but I haven’t done that. Most of the time he just sits ‘exposed’ on the bow. The ducks don’t seem to mind.
Actually, he sits exactly where you see him in the thumbnail.
Try magnets instead of buttons/velcro. Just a thought.
Yeah, that’s a good idea.
How many pounds of grass did it take ?
I think I have 16 pounds on it. That’s about all it could take and still fit in the travel cover.
Can you adjust the height on the blind somehow?
Unfortunately not. The width is adjustable, but not the height.
Use a tight dog grooming brush to get the grass out of the velcro. It takes 2 minutes for all velcro patches and I only have to do it once a year.
Thanks. I’ll look into that.
Does the crossbeam and bracket get in the way of the tiller handle?
@@BadAtHunting Thanks for the reply! I was worried that it would get in the way even when it was down.
Instead of the velcro or buttons, you might try snaps. You can install them yourself.
That’s a great idea. Thanks for the heads up.
I would almost think magnet connections would be perfect or this application
Where did you buy the grass?
I ordered it online, from j. Stern co. - they seemed like the best deal, and the grass has lasted the last 3 seasons.
How many pound of raffia grass should i get to cover the 1400 beaver tail ?
I think my held 16lbs and was still able to close within the cover,
Is that Raffia Grass?
Yeah, it’s a pack from J Stern Co. It’s been on there for three years and still going strong.
Is this the avery killerweed boat blind kit?
The majority of it is from a crafting supply website Jstern.com (The Classic pack 11lbs) - then I added a little from tanglefree (5lbs).
Awesome thanks!!
No problem man. Good luck this season.
Can you adjust the width or is it just set
You can adjust it. My boat is about 60 inches on top and there is still some room for it to extend/collapse.
Where did you get that grass? I been looking but can’t find a name
What coloring grass did you go with? Wetlands? Boat looks good!
To hide your outboard. Get a cheap outboard cover. Then hot glue the grass to the cover. Complete outboard concealment. Easy to put on and take off. Been doing it that way for years.
That’s a really good idea. Thanks for the tip.
If grass comes undone. Just reglue back.. Hope this helps. Good luck the rest of your duck season.
what kind of grass is it
It’s from jstern.com - part of their ‘hunting grass’ pack. For $90 you can get 22lbs of it, which is enough to cover the whole blind.
@@BadAtHunting 22lbs is $165 plus $15 shipping
11lbs is $90 plus shipping
Thanks for the update- I bought mine two years ago, so it looks like the prices have changed.
How wide is your boat? I have a lowe 1652
Mine in 48” wide on the bottom. About 62” from gunnel to gunnel on top. The Beavertail blind is pretty adjustable and should easily fit on your Lowe.
Jason did you ever get a blind? I also have a 1652 VT which is 75in beam length. I measured out where the 1700 would fit on my boat and where it would sit on the front of my boat and it would be about 48in wide which is too narrow for that size blind. I know it says 72' max beam for the 1600 series so curious if you were able to make it work.
@@lucasbogard1625 I’m opting for a 1700 series, want to cover the front and make a spot for my dog.
That’s a good call, I wish I would have went one size larger.
@@jasony724 Thanks. Please let me know how the 1700 fits as the website says it 2ft longer than the 1600. I posed on beavertail fan page on FB about the 1600 on a 75" wide boat and got back responses that it will not fit with the standard cross bars that sit on the gunnels it maxes as 72". 1700 might be the only option through...
Realistically are you getting 3, 200lbs dudes in that boat?
I’ve only done it a couple times, but it really isn’t meant for three guys.
I’d say two guys, a dog, and some gear is all I’d want to put in it.
Put max 5 camo vynil wrap on your motor…problem solved…
I actually hadn't thought of that. I'll look into it. thanks for the tip.
@@BadAtHunting a little trick is a camo duffel bag.
use toggles instead of buttons
That’s a good idea.