BACH: Cantata BWV 78 "Jesu, der du meine Seele"
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
- Ursula Buckel (soprano)
Hertha Töpper (alto)
John van Kesteren (tenor)
Kieth Engen (bass)
Karl Richter (conductor)
Solistengemeinschaft der Bach-Woche Ansbach
Münchener Bach-Chor
Münchener Bach-Orchester
1961/07 Stereo
Münster zu Heilbronn, ARCHIV
the best interpretation of the Jesu Der du mine sell, the duet is glorious Buckel and Topper are fenomenal , Karl Richter the best.
It is a sad tragedy that Richter died at age 54. How much more beauty he could have brought to the world.
This old recording of Bach's Cantata 78 still sounds more natural and enjoyable than all modern performances.
The opening is especially beautiful! I feel unable to grasp that same beauty with, f.e. Harnoncourt.
what beauty, only a balanced soul could have written such music
Jesus er i vor sjæl, derfor er vi i troen. Smukt sunget her.
Ausgezeichnet! Am besten!
Jezu, który jesteś moją duszą...
6:10 ho jesuuu ho maister...
Did Richter also play the organ in this recording, or is he just conducting?
Almost surely he didn't. The leaflet credits three different artists for the continuo organ part during the cantatas for Sundays after Trinity.
@@Werckstarck I see...thanks!
Une joaillerie ! Une miniature de Botticelli !
I have fond memories of owning and listening to the LP of this but on re-hearing, it just doesn't do it for me - The Bach Foundation do a superb job of it. And, of course, unlike many here, I much prefer the 'period' approach. Each to their own, I guess. I have a lasting memory of John Van Kesteren's voice as a result of this, who, I believe, would be in much demand today.
Hört sich sehr nach Studioaufnahme an (man hat den Eindruck, man steht unmittelbar vor allen Instrumenten gleichzeitig). Dadurch erklingen die einzelnen Stimmen aber unvergleichlich klar, Polyphonie und Kontrapunktik sind perfekt hörbar. Richter ist ein Dramatiker, was aber durchaus zu den schwergewichtigen Inhalten der Kantate(n) paßt. Es gibt verschiedene Weisen, sie gut und schön zu interpretieren...
The beauty and the meditative deepness of Richter's interpretation of Bach music were no more reached by his successors.Besides, the pest of philology ruined ancient music, which became ugly and unlistenable.
Karl Richter, le mieux, sans doubt!
Though I love Richter, his too-slow tempi, due to the usual, often regrettable, Romantic influence, is severely at odds with the actual meaning of the text, especially the "Wir eilen"=we hurry of the soprano/alto duet (> a minute longer!). No one could seriously be said to hurrying going that slowly! Compare Rilling's more accurate tempo. Since for Bach the text governed, if it doesn't, the interpretation must yield for it truly to be Bach. Too many "experts" and "scholars" (e.g. the laughable BWV 1096 Pachelbel work I knew was spurious before the BWV numbered it!) have made the irony of an "exalted" mess of Bach in this regard.
The only laughable thing is this comment. "A minute longer" of what? Did Bach set the specified lengths for the pieces? "More accurate" tempo with respect to what? To the meaning of the text? It looks like you have been influenced by romantic tradition of measuring how a piece conveys movement just by the tempo - the number of beats. The concept of strict tempo as you mean did not even exist at Bach's time. The "hurrying" in that duet is given by the whippy figurations and by the jumping continuo line, together with a staccato articulation. Bringing this piece at a crazy pace would plainly destroy the perfection of the liason between embellished counterpoint and forward-drawing continuo. And hence the hurrying becomes apparent - but only at the physical level of poor taste.
I agree. I find the rendition of this cantata by Richter just incomparable. There is also a beautiful interpretation of " Wir eilen..." by the great Maurice André of course for trumpet ua-cam.com/video/AInpkUNiR-4/v-deo.html and it lasts the same time as Richter. Besides I consider Richter the greatest Bach's conductor ever.
@@contarex1 ciao! Yes: no other conductor has a so beautiful sounding orchestra, so great soloists, such a great choir whose lines are clearly audible and much more distinct even than smaller ones. And his tempi could seem a little slow, sometimes, but he doesn't rush to finish a piece like it is a f1 race...
Ciao Mirko! Thank you for your answer. I agree, some people think that velocity is beauty ( see Gardiner) or that phrasing is Romanticism, so we have today abominable Bach's interpretations, while the grandeur and spirituality of his music are lost. The Duet in this cantata is enchanting and the opening chorus a superb example of rich counterpoint. Bach was a musical structuralist and Richter often spoke about the necessity to play bringing out the "structure" of a piece.
I'd be disappointed if Richter took "we hurry" so literally that he hurried the tempo! But quick versions can be good too. Favorite is an excerpt from "Bach - A Passionate Life" which is very quick.