Equal pay - Women's liberation
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- Опубліковано 23 січ 2009
- Equal pay for women is an issue regarding pay inequality between men and women. It is often introduced into domestic politics in many first world countries as an economic problem that needs governmental intervention via regulation.
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I can't say this enough. Carroll O' Connor was one of the most brilliant and gifted actors to ever grace the small screen. Same with Jean Stapleton. Best sitcom ever!!
Such a funny show!!
Carroll o'connor wasn't the first choice to play archie. Mickey Rooney turned it done. I think he would have been just as good. He would have made a great archie
It’s absolutely amazing how good this show was.
@@billgrant2116 no he wouldn't
@@billgrant2116 wrong
It's still incredible to think that Archie owns a house, his wife stays at home, his daughter and son-in-law live with him, and he can carry ALL of this for only $5.50 per hour.
That's about $23 today
Plus had to drive cab on weekends
Remember, he lives in Queens where the property taxes are much less. If he lived in Forest Hills, that's another story, but this is Astoria. Trump would call it a "shithole."
doesn't Archie have veterans benefits along with his $23 an hour ?
In New York City, no less
in 1974 the New York minimum wage was $2.00 an hr....$5.50 an hour was great money
Gary Morton and then carter became prez.
In 1986, minimum wage in California was $3.35 per hour. A manager at McDonald's made $4.25 per hour.
CPI inflation calculator says $5.50in 1974 is equal to $28.11 today.
If there was no minimum wage, we could finally pay these politicians what they're worth.
@@DrumWild I remember those wages , I was in Oregon working at a McDonalds in high school in 1986. Damn I miss those days.
"From the rib, cheaper cut "
😂
Oh man...
I know I'm a woman but crap, that was funny. If it wasn't for my father I wouldn't have know anything about Archie Bunker. Priceless as an older version of Married With Children
Pure gold.
That "you're getting WHAT?" is delivered so well.
Lol Michael's reaction to a woman managing the Mets
Spencer Hill Yes because its all fine for equality in all places, but when its sports men shudder at the fact lol.
grtyuj men and womens sports need to be separate
+Spencer Hill As a Mets fan, I would prefer a woman who ACTUALLY knows what she's doing then what's been going on the past 6-7 years.
DaComebakKid Yeah but what woman could play or coach in the majors? Besides you guys got to the World Series this year
The show often showed Meat Head as sexist, and he'd even side with Archie on those kinds of issues.
THIS IS absolutely brilliant.. The acting,comedy,Social reflection,writing, just so much better, than everything today.
the real conservative argument as to why she's only getting $5.50 is she is entering the job on an entry level... the last guy was getting $6.00, but we don't know how long he worked that job and how much experience he has over her.
It wasn't about experience back in those days over a woman, because back in Archie Bunker days women weren't considered equal to men,
But in the 70s and 80s things began to change when women started asking for equal rights and equal pay and Archie Bunker didn't like that, his point of view was based on the Bible not based on man-made Society.
No, the "real" conservative argument is to say women belong in a domestic role while men should be expected to provide. This way people can actually support families on a single income, our society will be more inclined to marry and have children, and the needs of the children are always met.
@@javiancrawford1143 they weren't considered equal because they weren't equal. They still aren't. If they did the same work, they'd make the same money. They can't physically do the same work as a man, so they are not equal.
@@ttmike42
I 100-percent agree with you
But unfortunately I am surrounded by a bunch of women that believe that they are equal to the men
They believe they can do better than a man I work as a janitorial at a school but it's more maturity women who are teachers and principals
@Matt Beeman That's what base pay is, genius. Pay above and beyond that is due to experience. How is it that difficult to understand?
This is actually brilliant! I can’t believe how well this holds up in 2023. Thats absolutely mind-blowing, the writers of this show had a very sharp eye for commentary I’m sad I’m only just now discovering it!
It ran for 8 years and then had a sequel. Archie Bunkers place. It was the greatest sitcom of all time.
See even Mike was like "A chick managing a baseball team?"
I agree with his last statement. Why work hard to get ahead if there's no financial reward?
BTW, when All in the Family premiered in January of 1971, the dollar was still on the gold standard. Seven months later it wasn't.
We can think our former President, Richard E. Nixon.
1:38 "What's the point of a man working hard all his life, trying to get someplace, if all he's gonna do, is wind up equal?"
As always, Archie is correct. People are supposed to be equal at the starting line, not the finish line.
Steven Fallon: I couldn't agree more. Pay should be based on performance, experience and ability to physically do the work.
@@josephasner171:
What about those with disabilities?
Men got to make more as they pay the bills....women just want fancy dresses , boob jobs and make up.
You don't get anywhere except the grave anyways. So we all are equal in death.
@@Coryraisa people with disabilities need to know their limitations and apply for a job they can do. If someone can’t stand for a long period of time, don’t apply for a job that requires it.
“From a rib, cheaper cut”… HAHAHAHA
Was there a better show?
I think not..
Rst28 in McDonald's laughed out loud on that one
Cheaper cut is almost as funny as '3A and 3B'. LOL.
@GretschDog I had the poster..
This and married with children!
@@KTMGUNNER Oh, I don't know. A lot of these sitcoms from the 70s are classics of the utmost quality: Sanford and Son; The Jeffersons; Good Times; the list goes on and on...
I love Mike's expression about the Mets
That is when his liberal theory meets reality. And theory will lose every time.
I know,Loved his face too.. He was totally stumped!!!
Mike, look at it like this. The Dodgers broke the color barrier, the Mets can break the inequality disparity. Mike, why are you still looking at me that way?
Let's go Mets
I love Archie Bunker!
ME TOO! ♥️
How I wish I could have a beer with Archie at Kelsey's, talking about life.
Lol me too!
@@johnbarone8948 omg same! I want to go to California and have a beer with him at his grave! 😀
Of course she got paid less, she is a new hire and the guy who had the job before had been around.
Mad Shangi eventually they will have to pay for the workload, then the women will have to come up with another reason they are paid less, and I am one, in manufacturing jobs this probably happens because of production, but jobs like real estate, women and men are equal in everything
You are a product of the PC culture
she wasn't a new hire. she'd already been working for that company. y'all should watch the whole series
She actually was a new hire. Archie recommends her for a book keeping job, but the boss discovers she has mechanical aptitude.
tie oneon no logic there
He said equality is unfair because someone works to better themselves and then they end up the same as everyone else which is... exactly right. That's entirely unfair. Equality of outcome is unfair to those who do more work.
LawlessNate That particular point is correct. But, that’s not this is about.
@@deborahhoffman7394 Actually, it is. Archie has been in his position for a significant amount of time before Irene got her position. She should not have been getting paid the same.
@Box Addict he's exactly right, I worked for one and all it did was make the pieces of shit almost impossible to fire. The current job I work at which is for Toyota we don't have a union and the vast majority of us don't want one. The ones that do, the lazy ones that complain non stop when we have the best careers in the state and our workers are far better off than the ones getting represented by the UAW(Ford, GM, Chrysler). We got paid every day we didn't work during quarantine and we have went back to work while they are still off and they had to lay off so many and we did not. So I've experienced it and you're full of shit.
@Alias Fakename I'm in Kentucky now, but I had experience with them in Michigan, Ohio, and Indiana before here. It was all the same. Glad I am where I am now.
You mean, unfair to those who do better work....
This show was WAY ahead of its time. Me and my family watched it in the early 70's. What goes around comes around.
I say, Irene was new to the forklift job. She's starting at ground level as the guy who had the job had time working that job and the seniority expertise. What Irene was talking about is not equality as equality got her the job to start with. What she's talking about is EQUITY. ....now where have I heard that word....? Archie is correct is his last statement.
Damn, when $5.50 an hour was considered good pay.
A house was 20k.
Probably be about $20 today. This episode was in early mid 70s
In 1970, I joined the Columbus, Ohio, PD for 3.87 an hour. Pay meant little as I just wanted to be a policeman. I did so for over 40 years.
My first job in 1990 was at minimum wage, $3.10 per hour.
$5.50 was middle class back in 1972.
If they truly paid women less, every corporation in the world would decrease their payroll costs by 20% and only hire women.
Thats a dumb argument, because nobody would ever do that
Not at all. Regardless of what you may have heard, women cannot do all the jobs that a man can do.
So if they can't do the same work, seems like they shouldn't be paid the same money.
No they just hire immigrants, because they can pay them even less. A Men's Rights Activist, Karen Straughan, said that 97% of jobs in construction, industry and maintenance are still done by men, because most women don't want to do that kind of work. She also said if all the men in the world stopped working for 3 days straight, it would take 3 years to clean up the mess.
Bad Drivers of Moose Jaw Right, that advocating stem fields was ineffective because so few had the genuine interest.
Archie was the best. He played an honest bigot. That was the number 2 sitcom in the history of television. Carroll O'connor also had a doctorate in english. He was a brilliant actor. He was also great in Kelly's Heroes with Clint Eastwood. R.I.P. Archie.
$6 per hour in 1972 dollars = $32.48 per hour in 2012 dollars. I'd like to meet a forklift operator making anywhere near that kind of money today!
I worked as an EMT in the mid 80s and didn't make over $7.00
I'm glad that Mike was a chauvinist. It showed that there was a human side to him, in spite of his self-righteousness.
What a riot,,great show
A "cheaper cut". LOL. Too effing funny.
Once "All in the Family" hit the screen, TV would never be the same (mercifully)!
Was Always Classic how Archie would reference the bible when making his points.
Yeah cause the bible suck.
I love when he questioned what the bible has to do with Jews, lol.
@Matt Beeman
What happen to the bible resist not evil. And rejoice when all manner of evil is spoken against you, and turn the other cheek. With that being said your mama suck!
Just Timm The Kings English...
archie was so real!
My first job in '92-93' , I made $3.50 an hour under the table. I was 13-14 years old. I'll never forget how excited I was when I finally made it to $5 an hour(utt).
I think Police K9 dogs, should be paid the same amount as regular officers...especially female K9's!
Those bitches.
Jesus Christ, Archie, You are so damn right
He always was, time has proven that.
archie bunker and al bundy ...two of the greats..
This reminds me of a scene from the movie Gettysburg. A Union officer says, "No two things on Earth are equal. Not a leaf nor a tree. Equality? What I'm fighting for is the right to prove I'm a better man than many of them!"
???? 5.50? todays that $29.46??? for a forklift worker damm thats high wage
I agree, my grandfather raised a family in the 1950's on a grocery baggers wages. Even bought a new home. Dollars aren't what they used to be.
How much of the population would give their arm to have a $29.46 an hour job today.
Archie is on point, a rib is a cheaper cut.
Archie, a 1970's #MGTOW
@@Cjnw Can't be married with a daughter and her bum boyfriend and still go your own way.
It might be something he would CONSIDER, but a dedicated husband and father he was. He was also a homeowner on the equivalent of $13 an hour in today's money.
That shit at the end is some of the truest words I've heard.
Loved it back in the early 70s, what great writing... This show was so far ahead of its time
Incredibly, the writer, Normal Lear, is STILL ALIVE!!! Turned 100 5 days ago!
Those can officially be called "the good old days" of t.v. used to watch archie, the Jefferson's, and good times.
Sanford and Son, as well.
Keywords: "He use to run the forklift." This isn't about equal pay. It's about cutbacks. If there was a newly employed guy, hired at the same time, doing the same job and she got paid less, then she would have an argument. But, the company got rid of some guy and replaced him with a cheaper alternative.
I am so glad that I lived during this time I won't ever forget it
You had to wait a whole week to see the show
Yo. I’m 14 and I’m watching thinking, man how times have changed. This is legendary
My first job paid $2.00 per hour. I was throwing hay bails 10-12 hours per day. Sundays off if it was raining. I was in heaven.
He ain’t lying
Like it or not, allowing women in the work force has essentially helped lead to the breakup of the traditional family unit...
Yep, sad but true
John Doel; That is exactly what Phyllis Schlafly tried to warn us about.
John Doe: that is what Phyllis Schlafly tried to warn us about,
Kids in their 20's cannot even imagine the World of the 1940's and 50's. Sexism and even racism were pretty much accepted premises in a lot of areas. I'm an amateur Sociologist that loves to study people and trends and how they relate to the Military and Economics. To me it's a great Hobby and makes me feel better about a lot of what I see, or have seen, in society. Makes me feel better because I understand it and we mostly fear what we don't know. Peace.
He has a point.
Men work hard for their woman and family because they expect to be appreciated for all the hard effort.
Take that away and introduce a woman who won't cook and clean yet still expect you to pay for the dates, be romantic, buy random flowers, open doors, pull chairs, etc and then you wonder why men don't want anything serious anymore and women can't keep any good men.
I know his character was meant to satirise people who act like that but somehow in 2019 Archie Bunker is still relevant and still as right
Men have sign up for the draft, defend the household, stay aboard the sinking ship, and perform all the life threatening jobs..... unequal pay is the price of admission.
Great point and even greater UA-cam name!
Archie's very last statement about being equal was 100% spot on
@jpssteveshanahan It's unfair when a lazy freeloading dead weight load like yourself who thinks you should be and have equal outcome compared to the hard working successful person who is contributing to humanity.
@jpssteveshanahan9572no. Equity is unfair.
@jpssteveshanahan9572 Equity forces everyone to finish the same. Slow down the faster people. Undermine the more successful people, etc...
@jpssteveshanahan9572 yep. All goes back to Marxism
When women joined the workforce it essentially doubled the available labor which halved the pay by supply and demand. Now both mom and dad have to work to support a family at the same standard of living that used to be achieved with one income.
Archie bumker was absolutely correct on this issue.
the truth has been spoken
Definitive of the genre. Best of its era.
the greatest sitcom of all time.
Crazy Archie isn't so crazy now.
That's kinda scary, really.
It funny reading these comments, All In The Family is still obviously over the heads of many....
very true!
@@hankaustin7091 < very stupid
Incredible. His reasoning is so true of that era.
Wow, what a prophecy
Meathead didn't like the idea of a woman managing the Mets lol
One of the funniest shows ever, but truth be told, Archie was a liberal in real life.
I finally agree with Michael on something
L Coters Marge Shott basically managed the Reds.
Thats because a woman cannot EVER manage a baseball team
@@Jleed989 Joan Payson owned the Mets.
Archie Bunker , the best!
I come back to this sitcom, year after year, whenever I need a sanity check (and there have been many as of late). Hands down the most intelligent sitcom to ever come out of Hollywood. Props to the guys, that had the balls to run with this to the studio. And the actors to have the courage to put themselves out there like that.
Thank You Norman Lear. Thank you Carrol, Jean, Sally and Rob for taking that chance and making history.
Thank you.
You tell em', Archie. I'm somewhere between Archie and Michael :-)))
Now they have women running fortune 500 companies, yet feminist are still screaming inequality.
Yep and complaining "where have the good men gone?". Simple they just don't want a women thats hit the wall and spending all her time away from home.
Not complaining but I work with women that get paid at the same rate as I, and can't get nearly as much done as me. I have to help them and lift heavy objects for them. They talk a lot and never put much effort in to their work. I should make much more than them. Although I've had women coworkers in the past that actually do work hard (sweating profusely, and sore but still on point) and am glad to see them making what I make.
I don't know what you do for a living, but I hope you can climb the ladder. If you have a degree in your pocket it will help equal out. Best of luck to you man!
+HaroldM814 thanks. I actually have three jobs, but the aforementioned I've had for many years. I'm discouraged about moving up in supervision or management. There seems to be entirely too much ass kissing and incompetence in that department.
Daniel A Guajardo Speaking from experience.... FUCK IT. You have 1 life. If moving up is a pay bump do it dude.
+HaroldM814 I know, but I have a pool service I'd like to expand as soon as I collect enough equipment. So I'm keeping options open. But the insurance provided by the shitty job is wonderful, full coverage on everything with no dollar limit. Moving up would require me to pay for insurance out of my raise. You are right though.
Yeah, the real injustice is that women get paid as much as men for an unequal amount of work. Seems like employers also give women more time off then they are comfortable giving to most young men.
Archie You were great
This show was so good. 🔥
Isn't it amazing.......40 years after this is made....the liberals still use the same talking points.....its amazing.
True dat.
Because we are right. And sexism still exists.
And the Big lib cities are still in shambles ....
@Deborah Hoffman
Yeah, it does exist. Why are men STILL expected to pay for dinner and entertainment on dates? Why is it still "women and children first" and not just "children first"? Why are there "ladies' nights" where they get into venues for free and not men? Why are car insurance companies allowed to charge men higher rates than women? Why does the spa I go to get away with hiring ONLY women as an explicit policy? (Btw, I'm FINE with them only hiring women.) Why do women get away with telling men to "man up"? What do they mean with that "sexist" messaging? I can seriously go on and on. Women are fine with "sexism" when it benefits THEM.
Liberals like yourself were and are complete hypocrites. "Equality" is just something you can bludgeon men over the head with to get what you want in the moment and then forget about a half a second later when something about the "old fashioned" values will benefit you over a man.
Icecreamforcrowtoo First of all, you know nothing about me. I don’t behave as you claim these other women do. I have always taken care of myself and not “used” men. But, a sexist man wanted a divorce from me because I was not dependent and submissive enough for him. Go figure. Yes. sexism does exist and it is still mostly men who are misogynists.
That even made the Meathead think..............
Amazing! Exactly the clip I wanted on the 1st search.
Well he ain't wrong.
The feminist 77 cents on the dollar bullshit was going on even THEN??
Loved this show growing up🤗...fast forward to today, my husband and I are still laughing but boy, try sharing this with our kids and they are NOT amused. They can't find any humor in his ignorance at all. Today's kids, I swear, theyre so busy being Politically Correct and Accepting of everything and every lifestyle choice but quickly judge those who don't think like they do, regardless of what decade it is.
I'll bet the man who ran the forklift before had been working there for years and earned raises along the way.
5.50 an hour and was able to have a nice home and sustain a family. Amazing.
Yeah in 1973 dollars
Weekend cabdriver
"What's the point of a man working hard all his life trying to get someplace if all he's gonna do is wind up equal?"
This is 100% correct. A man who works hard can't expect a promotion or a raise, because the hardest workers are usually men and the trend would get the employer sued for discrimination.
But, but, but, Archie's employer is a union shop. In union jobs you get rewarded for doing just enough to not get fired. There is no reward for being more productive.
Because equality is Communism.
@@jasonpalacios2705 Bingo!!
@@jasonpalacios2705 And communism is passed of as equality.
True, good, people believe in equality for all. All sexes, all races, all genders and all people.
Archie rocks i can't stop laughing great comedy
Right now on RIP, Great Actors of All time, 🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️👑🕊️
A cheaper cut & Mike's response to a woman managing the Mets. 🤣🤭😂🙃
Archie for persident ....
LOL ONE OF THE BEST SITCOMS EVER!
THE VERY BEST ⭐️
Don't watch these clips while drinking coffee in the morning! :-D "cheaper cut"... and then Michael's reaction to the Mets.. haha.. my nose is burning
Great stuff! Love it!!
Came here after the Mets hired Jessica Mendoza. 😂😂😂
Yeah women want equal pay but they don't mind getting free drinks at clubs on "Ladies Nights". Damn hypocrites.
Yeah - - - how many meals have women bought YOU? Not many, I expect. Me either. Women want SELECTIVE equality.
I can remember when minimum wage was $1.65 per hour. Had more money then than now.
Wiser words were never say
When tv was great,archie had it right.
Funny bit. But there is no real equality because we are all different. Should all shortstops get paid the same? Or cooks? Or doctors? Or writers? Or mechanics, carpenters and plumbers? When I've been at Johns Hopkins during my son's open-heart surgeries, I saw some nurses who did 90 % of what a doctor did while some nurses I wouldn't trust drawing my blood.
Sure don't want my doctor trying to draw my blood.
What’s the point of working hard if you’re going to wind up equal.
That’s the best thing I’ve heard!
Archie's view of Religion are the funniest quotes and Meathead's pause is priceless! 😮😅. 🤓😎✌🏻
I would get along so well with Archie.
Seriously? Do you believe in paying people less because of their race or gender like he does? I think pay should be based off of skill not factors such as race and gender that have little to do with the job.
+Alfred Abraham I regret to say that you're not the whiner of the day, but you are the runner-up. I do, however commend your social-justice efforts. Feel the Bern!
What we've done and what I've done is make Archie not the head of a lynchmob but a human being who is also a bigot," O'Connor, a political liberal, told an interviewer in 1973. While the show clearly opposed Archie's views, it showed him trying to cope with a world that was changing around him.Jul 6, 2001
Archie Bunker was meant as crude satire........ turned out to be right about almost everything in the modern world.
That's because you're like him. A horrible man nobody likes lol.
I bet you spend your time in those groups where they say they don't want women, but instead of leaving women alone to be free and happy, they spend their time trying to make women feel bad
@It's my way or the Highway 1968 I don't understand why people are so fucking stupid. This was meant to be a show on ass backwards America and making a commentary on the stupidity of racism.
Yet the lot of you idiots think that this show was some kind of pro-segregation / white nationalist show.
Did you imbecils even finish watching the show to the last episodes? He mellows out a lot and becomes more conscious about other ethinc groups. Not that you idiocentric people can even comprehend that.
didn't see that comin' don't ya?
@It's my way or the Highway 1968 I live in New York, go to college, and study psychology here. We have a house in a street that is mostly white but very diverse.
We all get along splendidly and they even helped me chop up a large tree branch that fell in my backyard during a storm.
The obvious difference between you and I is our education level and environment. If you learn anything from our very short interaction it should be this.
Being a bigot is an imbecils way of jealousy, if you can't adjust to your changing environment it's simply because you are too primitive to be in an evolving society. So don't blame other people or races for your short comings.
@It's my way or the Highway 1968 Does not owning a gun make you feel less of a man?
There is a book called "The Feminine Mystique" it speaks of how woman in the 60s feel they have to behave a certain way, look a certain way or act a certain way.
It's a book on feminism but ultimately can be applied to all genders. It concluded on you should not behave how a people want you too. You will never be free unless you are yourself. You can and should be what you want to be.
I guess what I'm trying to say is you don't have to be this way because it's expected of you. I sense you are frustrated and think a gun will solve your problems.
Don't conform to your milieu. I suggest you seek help rather than validation.
Best wishes to you friend.
U.S Women Soccer Team Should See This😤
don brassco Ugh! Right? Lol
LOL!!!!!!!!!! you are exactly right don! 1 million thumbs up!
Amen Archie! Good tv....
“Triggered liberals incoming”
@todd long: Thank God. So long, Trumptards! Don't go away mad, just go away...
@@gb032645 im hoping every day that the civil war starts so we can be done with all this liberal lunacy
@@gb032645 This Trumptard will continue to be a thorn in your collective liberal side.
Imagine Trump as Archie and Hillary as the Meathead and you'll get a glimpse of the upcoming election.
Watch the presidential debate in two weeks you will see something similar.
Archie won the election.
Use a male example as meathead. There are plenty of male Democrats.
Imagine a show like this on TV today. They took Dukes of Hazzard off because of a confederate flag on the roof of the car. These shows were hilarious.
Reruns of Archie are still on.
@@tommytruth7595 Yes they are watch them every evening back to back episodes.. Love Archie!!!
And the Confederate flag license plate was on the front of the police cars as well, even Sheriff Little's. Go figure.
Irene needs to compare starting salaries, not her beginning salary versus her predecessor's final salary.
Or as Archie would say, the women's "lubrication" movement