Know Your Mods Ep16 : Tires - Michelin Pilot Sport 4S (PS4S)
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
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Never satisfied with simply providing the best..Michelin has upped their tire game to create what everyone in the industry is simply calling, THE best Ultra-High Performance Summer tire on the market today. Taking all the innovation and feedback from the original Michelin Pilot Super Sports (PSS), these all new Michelin Pilot Sport 4S Tires provide unparalleled levels of road holding grip and braking performance both in the dry and the wet, all with increasing tread life and reducing road noise. The best just got even better, The "Godfather" of performance tires has finally met its match... and its name, is Pilot Sport 4S.
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I went from the Pirelli run-flats to PSS. I was absolutely amazed in the difference. I will never go with anything else other than Michelin tires. Great to see the PS4S have improved so much.
Same😉
3 years later but you never in any situation ever never ever buy run flat tyres for performance vehicles. of course you notice a different. RF are not to be compared to the normal version of the same tyre
Hands down one of the best tires I have driven on for my 600hp sedan. Cannot believe the grip from a dig compared to cheaper alternatives on the market. The cornering, braking, wet, and quiet ride are worlds ahead of other tires on the same car.
Ik I’m late but what kind of car you got?
I'm also curious what car you have? I'm on a 295 mps4s and should be around 650rwhp
Just installed these on my 650i coming from pirellis. Literally a night in day difference in all categories. I have them paired with full carbon fiber staggered wheels. Handling, road noise, wet performance, comfort all went through the roof. With my KW V3 coilovers on my pirellis, I was happy, but now I'm just floored. It's a extremely luxurious experience. It's friggin pricy and is not for 40° and below weather but boy do the stars align when you're on these tires. Hats off to the engineers, it's truly the best tire on the market. If you want the ultimate in performance, comfort and have the coin, get them.
You have a 650i, full carbon fiber wheels, and KW V3's and youre complaining about ~$230 tires......ok
Glad to hear you are enjoying them!
Being someone who repairs and sells Smartphones I LMAO when he said "It's like having an iPhone 9" Still good info.
Ernie you can generally tell when this video was made :)
Just put a set on my 17 Focus ST. These tires are INCREDIBLY quiet on the freeway. Really amazing. Great tires, so much better than those stock goodyears.
I’ve seen several videos on this tire and you’re the first to report on the non-steel belts which I’m all for.
Yeah its some of the technology to keep the weight down, and yet keep the strength as well. (reduction in rotating mass ) Also the tire of the new T.50!
I just sold my 15 GT Mustang last week and it had PS4S tires on it. I bought a GT350 with the Super Sports on it. I cannot wait to take them off and get PS4S tires back. They are by far the best summer tire I have ever driven on.
First off Congrats Steve on the GT350 (funny when I did my 2nd review on the tires it was with the 350), You have a unique perspective seeing super sports to PS4S difference back to back. Something most people will not be able to notice! Awesome
@Steve Boyher I've been really trying to find somebody who has direct experience on both the PS4S and Super Sports...can you elaborate a bit on why you like the PS4S's more? Thanks.
@@51jjm I am not a pro by any means, but this is my take on the PS4S. We have had several Mustangs. I have tried numerous different tires . I tried to find a better tire than the michelin and cannot. I have had the super sports twice. They are great tires, but they do no have the grip the the PS4S gives and they do not last as long. The super sport will break loose at a much lower throttle than the PS4S does and in the corner, the super sport will start to lose grip at about 2/3 the speed of where the PS4S does. The PS4S has acceptable rain control for an ultra high performance summer tire. I recently put a set of Cup 2 Michelins on my 17 350. They are by far the best tire I have ever used, but they cannot be driven in the rain with any confidence and I would not recommend them below 50 degrees F. They never soften up enough to get grip. I am ordering a set of PS4S today for my 17 350. Unless I am tracking a car, the PS4S is the only one that I feel does the job. I just wish they made them in a 305 35 19 instead of a 305 30 19. I like a slightly taller side wall.
@@steveb8883 Thanks so very much Steve. I really appreciate you taking the time to explain your experience to me. I'm no pro either ;), but I just absolutely love driving on my Super Sports and...I'm not so great at "change." ha! I first had them on a Audi s4 cabriolet (the old fat 8 cylinder 4.0 that had I chipped/modified to over 400hp) and now have them on a much less powerful car (VW Golf Gti mk 6) that I love as much as that old S4 and that the Super Sports transformed the car after I took the crappy Potenza's that VW supplied on the car...anyway, you are one of the very few people I have come across with direct experience between the PS4S and the Super Sports. I should be getting new tires in a few months (the PS4S's) and I will report back. Thanks again for your comment. Cheers from John down in Greece.
@@51jjm You should love the PS4S experience. Keep us posted!
I have these tires on my 2018 Mustang GT they're absolutely amazing at first I was going to replace them with some Mickey Thompsons but by the time I got home I realize are the most comfortable tires I have ever had on my vehicle. So even though the Mickey Thompson's look more sporty and flashy when the time comes to get new tires I'm going for the michelins 100%
The super sports were the best tires I've ever used and lasted me 5 years. I'll be looking forward to the PSS4S when my current super sports give up the ghost.
Wow u must bearly drive. My pss lasted 12k miles and that was a lot for them on a m2c
I'm getting these put on my Nissan 370Z sport coupe tomorrow morning. After much research over about 20 other tire options, these tires came out on top in the performance categories that mattered the most to me: longitudinal and lateral dry grip, dry slalom times and tire weight. The superior wet performance was not a priority to me but is a nice added bonus. Michelin seems to have gotten the handling performance of a 200 UTQG tire with the longevity of a 300 series tire. I really like the use of the Kevlar belts instead of steel for the lighter weight, increased stiffness and better transient response to steering inputs and road irregularities. I'm a retired physicist who likes to dabble in mechanical engineering topics and so it was very interesting to study the construction and performance characteristics of this tire.
Jim, great choice it's been a few years since I got to review these tires and they really are the best in performance category from what I've seen from any manufacturer and engineering standpoint, they are leading the market for sure. Enjoy! Come back in here and give your impressions of it after you drive on them.
Do u guys know any difference between the XL ps4s tires vs the none XL
I went from Yokohama’s to PS4’s on my mugen m200 type r and it’s made the drive so much better
Got the Michelin AS3 plus and they are amazing !
KCI I am on set of some Michelin AS3+ as well right now, loving them as well! Different type of tire obviously then this PS4S performance tire, but honestly in terms of All season this and the Continental DWS06 are neck and neck in my eyes as the top 2 all season tires.
Not so good on a C7 ZO6, compared to the Pilot Super Sport.
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I have these on my STS-V, replaced PSS, and it was a noticeable difference!
These came on my G80 M3. They are fantastic tires.
I bought a used CTS VSport that a previous owner had put different front and rear, mid-price all seasons on. Great car but I could tell the tires were holding it back, the rear would step out huge under power and even the front tires were getting pushed around. Switched to these and a good car became amazing. It corners like a roller coaster, and intentional abuse of the throttle on corner exit just gives a little shimmy. They feel determined to stick, which is fun and also makes the car much safer.
Just picked these up as a spring/summer tire here in Colorado for my BMW X1 M-Sport 335i. I am so excited to get these tires rolling. Thanks for the review.
Awesome , enjoy them Jared and if you get a chance jump back on and provide the review! X1 is a handling beast of pure 50/50 weight distribution :) Enjoy - Ron @ ModBargains
Just fitted a set of these today. The sidewalls are amazing 👌👌👌
Just orderd these today
wezzns b are you enjoying them ?
And in snow... thank god he says no, I was cringing... great job!
Been subscribed since day one. I've applied plenty of times to work for your Team, always love the know your Mods and every video that's uploaded in general. Keep em' coming!
Thanks for a great review! Also, glad you don't use Disquis!
I just put a full set of these 225-40-18's on my FN2 Type R Civic. A big difference in stability and grip. It remains to be seen how they wear.
Shea Hughes how the wear holding up I hear it’s not that good in wear
@@ivan2jzbunny So far they look good. I drive 100k on the motorway five days a week. I don't drive it on weekends really, maybe just to the shop. I think they are noisy, I noticed the noise more when on roundabouts. I think if you want great grip and less noise you have to sacrifice wear.
Getting these today, I don't think I have ever been more excited to pay for tires.
Awesome!!!! Post back a review on here for all of us!
These are going on this coming Friday on my B8.5 Audi S4 that is APR Stage 2+ dual pulley pushing 450hp+. Just in time for the cooler weather rolling through Arizona for the next 6 months! Can’t wait to see how they compare to the PSS I have on there now.
Awesome! Congrats. Jump back on here and let us know your initial impressions and maybe evnentually a long term impressions :)
Huge thanks guys for sharing.Great, not gonna be able to sleep now. Even more excited. My son is waiting on rims for the BMW and he chose the 4 S's to be mounted this time.
Awesome! Exciting! Follow up with your review on here!
Cool vid! Just replaced my P Zeros with some PS4S’ on a S5. And they’re awesome! Super on dry, grippy when sticky, great on wet, and comfy in normal driving too. They do cost a bit more, but if they can go the distance as they say, then it’s well worth it instead of having to replace them more often.
Just put a set of these on my civic. Monster grip, even when cold and wet as a Chicago March tends to be these things just stick to the road. Can't wait to get them out on a warm dry day and really see where their limits are
Everything discussed in this review is correct - I have these tyres on my car and the improvements over the previous gen is clear - especially the wet weather handling..
I have these PS4S tires on my 2019 Mustang GT and they are everything claimed to be. An awesome tire!
Agreed John after more and more time with them I've really felt the importance of what they did, there really is an amazing level of tech that went into the tire.
Do anyone know what the difference between an XL Michelin sport 4s and a none XL
I've purchased 3 sets for my Mustangs and Shelby. Much better than Goodyear F-2 Supercar that came on the Shelby. Sport Cup 2 designs pretty much track only. PSS4S are best high performance street tire for everyday driving (in relatively warm weather). I like their comfort and performance ability, but it's more important for me to feel safe in normal everyday or higher performance driving conditions.
I have these tires on my JEEP SRT. These tires are the best !
I just got these for my fd rx7, I've never bought performance tyres before they're going on the car in a couple weeks. After seeing all this hype about the ps4s I feel like I'm gonna be driving a new car
jtspiky, really hoping you can jump back in here and give us your review. I think the car will become like a newer vehicle, the hype is real but I want to hear from you on it (also cause I had an FD as well). Congrats!
@@ronhay6511 hello fellow rotary fan! happy to do so. reason why it's going to be 2 or 3 weeks is the car and new wheels "ferrada fr3's" are getting ceramic coated. call me paranoid but im choosing to wait the 7 plus days to let it cure properly haha. but ill keep you guys posted.
@@jtspiky Haha all good, and congrats on the new wheels.
Thanks so much Ron for such an informative video. It’s very useful as I’m thinking about replacing the tyres of my spouse’s car. 🙏🙏🙏
Just upgraded from Super Sports to the S4 and it feels very different. I drive a manual steer, manual brake muscle car so every little thing I change usually has a noticeable difference. Turning is different I can feel the stronger sidewall. I had to change the brake bias between the front and back these bit harder (I have large two piece Wilwood rotors, calipers, master and proportioning valve). They're quiet and in certain turns where I could make the rear slide a little it takes a tad bit more throttle to do the same. Very good product! We'll see how they wear but in my experience what makes their compounds stand out is how well they perform AFTER 20-30k miles.
Good review, agree with you! Enjoy your new tires
Love this style of content please keep making it
Just picked up 285/ 30 R20s for 950 bucks a set! Got a fat deal! Cant wait til the forged wheels come in, I'm way too hype about these tires!
MikeKain95 where did u get that crazy deal
Elias Bako I work at Discount Tire, so we get an employee discount of 30%.
a grand for a set of four freakin tires😈🤔. four new Falkens costed me 300 but they are all season performance tires not super grippy summers
Just ordered them for my 2012 Mercedes E350 sports sedan. Hope they’re quieter and more comfortable than the sumitomos that are already on it!
The competition was closing the performance Gap . . . Can't wait to my set on my car . Stay Frosty All
Just order these tires and super excited about trying them out! Great video!
This still has a steel belt FYI, it just has the Aramid-Nylon on top
I love the content and delivery of these videos.
Man, you look like Bradley Cooper! Goodness.
Thanks for the review, I want to run these tires on my viper and ditch the shitty pirelli p zeros.
Can you do a video about the Firehawk Indy 500? I'd like to know more about the technology inside of them and why they are so popular despite being relatively inexpensive. Love the videos!
Id assume they would serve as an all season tire in southern california?
For all intents and purposes, yes.
You just wouldn't want to take them up to the mountains in the snow, as freezing temperatures would compromise the compound and traction. But in our dry-wet conditions in California, no A/S tire would grip as well. The only thing you 'sacrifice' would be over-all tread life, as an A/S tire would last 2-3x as long.
Im going to buying tires .. im looking at the Conti Sport6.. but now you have my attention!! Im going to do a buy.. ride ... and Review in the Podcast! Thank you for the cool info and great channel. You have new followers from the #topsnappodcast
Awesome enjoy, and thank you for following! Means a lot to me and all of us here at ModBargains. Looking forward to checking out your review.
@@ronhay6511 I will forward a link when its up . HavE A kick ass day Sir.
So when will they be available for C7 ZO6 stock size? 19” and 20”.
Hi Joel, I think I mentioned it in another comment - but the zo6 super sports - are on of those specially specifically engineered for the car, something very special that Michelin did, so even though its on the older technology, it blows away the ps4s so no need for a 4s release from them. Hope that helps, if you want assistance on getting the tires, please feel free to contact us at ModBargains 714.582.3330 or sales@modbargains.com we are happy to help.
They are truly great on a Golf R...
Oh fun. Orbital The Box is a great song.
I put these on my 2019 Nissan 370Z 6MT with sport package as replacements for the OEM Bridgestone Potenza S007. They are quieter, lighter and better wearing than the Bridgestones but the sidewalls are much less stiff. Theis has resulted in a less harsh ride but with more vagueness in the steering, a less precise handling tire. This tire might be better suited for a heavier GT performance car where comfort has a higher priority. My next set of tires will probably be the Michelin Cup 2s.
Great feedback Jim, interesting thought on it are you mostly using the tires on track level? the cup 2's are really a track type tire.
@@Modbargains-google-plus No, I use the car as a DD and occasionally stretch it's legs out on canyon and mountain roads here in the SF bay area. I like to practice precision handling, shifting and braking and so I am very closely attuned to the car's handling characteristics and can readily appreciate the effects of good tires on this car's handling abilities.
@@videomaniac108 How was the tread life? This is my number 1 choice right now, and tread life will be the final factor that pushes my decision to purchase them
@@salmon4o4 I'm getting really good, even tread wear across the tire. My projections are that I'll get about 30K miles till my tread depth goes to zero.
@@videomaniac108 Thank you, I'll be using these tires for similar purpose as you, so I appreciate it alot
Been running 4 S all round right the way through a UK winter and was very, very impressed with them, even in sub zero temps. Unless I was going to be subjected to regular, deep snow conditions, I wouldn't bother switching to winter rubber.
Thanks for your comment. I have just ordered a set for my Jaguar F-Pace. The Pirelli P Zero tyres did 30k miles I was a bit concerned as Michelin said Pilot Sport 4 S is a summer tyre so we recommend to use it above 7 degrees C. It can be used below 7 as well but not for long time periods. So if the temperature drops below 7 degrees for long periods in your area, we recommend to use winter tyres during this time. (I asked what is a long period). If its's 2-3 days below 7, summer tyres are OK, for longer periods winter tyres are better and safer option
I have these on my RWD G80 M3. Great tires.
For sure they are awesome (bought them myself)
@@Modbargains-google-plus nice! What did you put them on?
I put them on my Model S at first and last month on a 996 Turbo.
@@Modbargains-google-plus 996 Turbo is a fantastic car.
best tire ever i did reviews on my Shelby GT350 in the rain on my channel it's simply incredible good video Mod Bargains👍
Just ordered these can’t wait to put them on and try it out !
Give us your feedback :)
Ron Hay got them for my frs swapped out some cheap tires from dealership can tell difference right away.... more quiet . Grip is amazing car turns like a go kart
Got these on a 500+hp Australian falcon. The fronts 245/35/19 feel like they will rip your eyes out. The 275/30/19 rears, not so much. They have trouble handling the horsepower and traction control intervenes. Only new so hoping for more grip to come on the rear.
mercury bullet sounds very similar to what I have 😉
I have supercharged xr8, last one, with similar hp. I’m wondering if maybe 285 or 295 at the rear with these Michelin Pilot Sport 4s would help with that acceleration. Have the stock standard Dunlop’s now and I have zero traction under power.
Love the tire reviews!
yes they are a big deal i have them on my 2017 c7 vette and it rides amazing
Just fit them on my Challenger hellcat are amazing
Congrats!!!
Wish they made this in 15 inch. Had to settle for the pilot sport 3 for my 15 inch wheels
Thanks much 4 the wonderful info!! I plan on getting them 4 my 2018 Audi S3!! Look 4 ward 2 more great info!! C...cool
At what point in time and cost will the big tyre makers make a new series of 13 and 15 inch tyres? It’s better than money in the bank so it’s worth cutting edge tyre technology.
Hey everyone. It's been a few years now...I'm curious for those who have driven on both Pilot Super Sports and Pilot Sport 4S tires, if they still feel the 4S is an improvement over the Pilot Super Sports? I've read a few reviews now that say that the 4S is a great tire, but just doesn't have the road "communication/feel" that the Pilot Super Sport does when driving aggressively in the dry. Thanks for any replies.
I went from the Bridgestone Potenza S007, the OEM tire on my 370Z, to these and it is true that the sidewalls are less stiff. I had to go up on the inflation pressure about 10 psi to equalize wear across the tread. I can feel the lower stiffness as an increased sense of vagueness in the steering, with less firm control in sharp cornering. My next set will be the Michelin Cup 2s.
@@videomaniac108 Thanks for your reply Jim. Appreciate it. I'm coming-up on new tires and I think I'm going to go for the Pilot Sport 4S's...in part to satisfy my own curiosity as to how they compare to the Super Sports. Again, my anticipation is that the Super Sports will be better in the dry for performance, but in the rain the 4S will beat it. Hard to find straight comparisons between the the two Michelins. I've been driving on Michelin Super Sports for 15 years now and have no complaints. It is still an awesome tire. I'll report back once I get the 4S's on. Cheers!
Well I don’t track my car much. It may see a track “1/4” mile MAYBE 2-4 times a year. My car does see very high speeds 30-40% of the time so I think this will be my upgrade. Just waiting on my pilot sports to wear down so I can buy these 😂
Looking forward to these tires. Ordered a set for my wife’s 2013 Hyundai Sonata 2.0T. We had some Toyo Proxes 4 Plus (All Seasons) when we bought the car in July 2018. So I’d like to see what the difference will be. Her car comes with 225/45/18’s (Stock), and I got the Michelin’s in a 245/45/18. The tires should arrive on 5/30/2019. Cheers!
These are going on my Final Edition Evolution in 3000 miles.
Looking at the charts and tirerack reviews, Bridgestone has the worst stopping and wet performance
They Best tyre incredible
I used PSS before but my size 225/40/18 can only get the PS4 rather than PS4S, so I changed to P-Zero
I'm get those try them out on my bmw to see how they work and if there any improvement
Muzik Unit how did they turn out and what did you replace
I struggle to find the best possible 19-20 inch Summer tyres for my BMW 535i xDrive 2012. What I am absolutely sure is though, I do not want any RFT!
There are 3 tyres in which I am interested (All w/o RFT) : PSS (*), PS4s (w/o *), Conti SC6 (w/o *)
The only "Star-Tyre" without RFT is the Michelin Pilot Super sport.
Do you recommend buying older-generation tyres WITH * or newer Generation WITHOUT * ???
Thank you
Hello!!! Great video on amazing tires...I was wondering about the price on these tires. I understand their may be a premium and accept it but is there a specific difference regarding the ps4s tires you guys sell via the modbargains link and the tirerack version...For a model 3 tirerack sells them for 225 a tire while your site sells for 330 a tire. Am i missing something or are your tires like a manufacture version or diffrent version than the ones sold to the regular public..My tesla store mentioned there are the manufacture spec ps4s that sells for 325 which is more than what tirerack charges. They did mention that the treadlife is better when u buy from manufacture as the utqg is closer to 500 vs the other versions which are closer to utqg of 350
I'm about to change tires and I don't know what tire to choose from the Michelin A/S 3 or the Michelin PS4S. Price wise, the A/S 3 price is $713 installed with taxes and the PS4S is $847 installed with taxes. By the way, the roads where I live are crap so the tire life of the two previous set I've had is around 23K to 25K miles. Any suggestion of which of these two best suits?
T J Hunt has 4000 mi and 1 track day on his C8 with Michelin Pilot sport 4S tires and he says the front tire is de-laminating.
Hi Alan, meant to write back earlier, I don't know TJ but this is only happening on tire? I wonder if something faulty there. FIrst time hearing it, but if he needs help with getting this over to MIchelin for analysis let him know to hit me up at ModBargains, happy to help, cause I am sure their engineers would love to get their hands and see this.
When you get Michelin's racing level tires, or even their BFG Goodrich, you get full engineering support as well, at the races and analysis, either the driver or for setup. It's really some impressive stuff.
Good stuff bro
Sir I have Michelin pilot supersport 335/25/zr20 on my corvette . Now I found LOTLOT cheaper Michelin pilot supersport 335/30/ zr20 . Can I buy this one ? Why is 30 cheaper then 25 sir ? Can you help me ???
I have a 2014 BMW 535XDrive, Tire Size is 245/40/19. Right now, I have a RFT made by Bridge Stone came with the car when I bought it. I am thinking replacing with Standard Michelin All Season, you mentioned in this video that this particular tire is only for Summer Driving, can you recommend which Model is for All Season? Thank you.
Where's Mike?
Go Ron, it’s your birthday! 😜
I'll take the Continental ExtremeContact Sports and use the extra money for other crap.
Conti ExtemeContact Sports (The replacements for the DW) are excellent alternatives as well.
Right on par with the normal PSS's. I've also heard good things about the Firestone Firehawk Indy 500's. Even cheaper than the Conti's and PSS's, with similar performance. I think these PS4S's are great tires, but more expensive than other brands for DD's.
Is this a tire you would recommend for a 2021 bmw g30 daily driver?
What's the best summer Tire if you never drive your car in the rain? I never drive my car in the rain.
Twobarpsi toyo proxy r888r
I have a dedicated set of snow tires...would you say that the ps4s would work for the rest of the 3 other season in NY? .......I mean I wouldn't want to have 3 sets of tires
Ken M Absolutely! The 4S are fabulous performance tire, except for really cold days and of course, snow... I too have a set of snows for winter. Albeit, HP Michelin alpine sports... I put my winter tires on first week of October and take them off the last week of March… Best of both worlds and less wear obviously. Good luck! Enjoy the ride!
So is the dry tread to be to the outside? of the wheel?
Can anyone tell me honestly, that these tires are better than Pirelli Zero's?
Substantially - on f80 m3
I wish I could get this but my rear wheels are to big
How are theses compared to the Nitto NT555 G2?
Compared to pilot super sports, are the side walls stiffer or softer? Also, I'm running pss 235/40 18 front and 265/35 18 rear. The tread width on the front pss are 8.5" but on p4s it's 8". About the same width rear. How do you think this 0.5" difference will effect handling and grip? Thanks.
The P4S sidewalls are stiffer, in corners you definitly feel far more planted. Grip and handeling increase i'd say is almost a 20-30% based on my subjective review of it, this is considerable. During like a bank turn you really can feel that this tire won't flex out. Hope that helps.
make more sizes
aka for smaller tires
205/35/16
ARCH. M Who uses them anyway?
Bought for my GTR-- no traction. My run flats had more traction for launch. Running 30psi , 295s on the back. What's the break in? i've ran them for at least 300-400 miles.
Would you recomend these, the pilot super sport or the A/S 3 + for Southern Cali on a G35 at 397whp? I like going fast!
Between super sport or A/S3+ for S. California - If you can still find the Super sports being sold, I would go with the Super sports. Our conditions here don't warrant the need for the A/S 3+ level of all season
Longevety:
CONTINENTAL (- 43%) ?!
How is it possible?
Did you do the tests well ?!
I have these on my 370Z and they are wearing at the advertised rate and will go to 30K miles on my car.
2,41 meters are a whoel car length to you?
0:55 Tfw there is no iPhone 9... #subvertingexpectations
Lol at the time of filming I just made the assumption :) but I think the point was made.
Wait if its like an Iphone 9, does that mean its shit?
ROFL well when I did that analogy , I went with the evolutionary step of things how iphones or Samsung phones change and improve generally.
I wonder if this tyre woukd be good on a TVR Tuscan? The toughened sidewalls might have a negative effect on a car that only weighs 1 tonne and the tyres shoud only be at 26 psi, I wonder if the tyre would be good on a lightweight car running lower 26 psi tyre pressures? I have a feeling the tyre is designed for cars at 1.5 tonne and above and running higher 30psi pressures
Hi Dennis, I think these tires would still be good. The tougher sidewall will be better during cornering regardless of the lower weight, yes you can run a lower tire pressure, but what are you trying to achieve, is this for lap speed? There are always some changes that are different then one another, but the tire is first designed on race cars for compound purposes then brought down for every day usage, example like in the wet etc. If you are looking for pure race purposes look at the Michelin Sport Cup 2's. If we can help further let us know, can contact us here at ModBarains, sales@modbargains.com
@@ronhay6511 Thank you for your reply, I thought of the cup 2s but i know these need heat to work so i felt this tyre that also works at cooler temperatures would work better for me, I'm trying to find the best all weather grip but mainly on dry days but without having to warm the tyre up first, I'm just looking for a street tyre, my continentals at the moment dryving my tuscan car with no drivers aids at all can break free and spin on perfect dry roads in summer while going dead straight even though the car is set up on brand new nitrons and is dead straight, it's scary so I'm looking for the best mainly summer use grip tyre for safety, I don't want to die and I feel I can't put my foot down in my car safely, because it's a light car I know it should be run at 26 psi so i was wondering off the tyre walls were designed for 30psi on heavier cars, you can see my thoughts
I have a 2010 528i BMW it has run flats can I switch to these tires with my car? And if I do will they look almost similar since there sporty looking tires?
Yes and Yes
Ps4 vs ps4s??
Running these on the gtr the sidewalls are to soft they bounce effect at high speed (150+mph)
Well at those speeds I think you should be looking at the Cup tires, if you are driving like this consistently. But these are far stiffer then majority of all the summer performance tires out there. Still good feedback!
Sidewalls are softer with ps 4s compared to super sports imo. Gripwise are better but too soft sidewalll imo
Drove e92 150mph in Germany with some jumps and fool boot. Geat tyres and hold amazing in corners. I think if sidewall is too soft, you have to add a bit more air and should be fine. Maybe you had pilot sport 4 not 4s?
@@foxyboots definitely got 4s, there good just a little soft if you over inflate the tyres you get uneven wear, the best way to tell you have the right pressure is to go for a quick drive and check you tyre temperature if the middle is the same as the sides the you pressure is perfect, if the centre is colder than the the sides it's under inflated, if the centre is hotter than the sides it's over inflated. 33 psi is perfect for my gtr on 305/30/20 and 265/35/20.
Would you consider the PSS 4S technology an upgrade over the Sport Cup 2s?
In many ways I'd say yes. But take heed... its not a real Apples-to-Apples comparison. The Sport Cup 2 is a DOT approved track & competition tire. In theory when pushed to the limit in perfect dry weather, the Sport Cup 2 would provide better grip on a track. However the moment you hit a standing puddle you'd end up in the weeds.
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PS4Ss are a daily Ultra-High Performance Summer Tire. Excellent for both Dry & Wet with exceptional tread life given their performance rating. Not to mention something you could drive home on after a long days event with confidence.
In reference to my reply above. As far as raw dry/track traction, Pilot Sport Cup 2's will out hold and out lap a PS4S. But this is to be expected as Sport Cup 2s are a DOT track tire with significantly less tread life expectancy and not one intended for daily use with the expectation of reaching 30,000+ miles on a 4 wheel rotation set.
You absolutely right, the tires found on the 2018 Mustang GT Performance package are fantastic. And they happen to be Michelin Pilot Sport 4S Tires. media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2017/10/look-forward-to-next-summer-with-2018-ford-mustang-gt-and-new-hi.html
For maximum crowd killing in the wet at cars and coffee in your Mustang yes, cup 2's are better.
The LM Ford GT won Le Man's with these tires, so I say yes Ford did make the right choice....