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$12k Fodera Vs $100 Amazon Bass (can you tell the difference?)
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2022
- Is it OK to take your chances on a suspiciously affordable bass guitar? Or is it really in your best interest to spring for the top shelf? In today's video I'm challenging you to hear the difference between a $100 bass I bought from Amazon and a $12,000 Fodera! Tell us how you did in the comments! (the answer may surprise you).
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As always, see you in the shed…
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As a big gear nerd and audiophile, it broke my heart to have guessed this wrong. I'm ashamed of myself lol
the only real dif is the first he plays hard tom ake it buzz the sexxond .. he tries REALLY hard to make it sound like its the best bass of the world ... im surprised he was able to make em sound so close yet they were so dead ... im test no 2 with clear tone wont be the same game at all. + and or both rec first try O_O I bet He practiced it!!!!
#2 was cheaper bass not due to tonal differences but just the effort Scott was putting into it.
Scary similar
Well, the bass tone is all about pickups and type of strings, and amp, and so on (tone wood being a myth). What changes with more expensive bases is build quality and playability! And if they have decent enough pickups, it's not like there would be a 120 times difference in tone quality ($12k vs $100).
Would be interested in seeing a video about setting the cheap bass up to a good standard and then seeing how it sounds then.
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I guessed it right, but only because the Amazon bass seemed to have some intonation issues. Tone-wise, I didn't hear much of a difference. The Amazon bass even sounded 'treblier', but I guess that's due to having new strings.
With a proper set up, this cheap bass seems totally workable with.
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Agreed, it was very tough to tell until I started hearing intonation issues with #2.
I bought that Amazon bass for an extended business trip, planning to give it away when I went home. After doing the setup and putting on some Ernie Ball strings, it sounded great and was fun to play.
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1 fodera. 2 amazon. Just the noise floor alone gave the Amazon bass away. The smoothness of the foderas tone is NOICE. But 12k!? This would be much harder (for me) between a £600 well setup bass and the £12k fody.
This
I disagree, I thought the opposite, they both were noisy anyways.
I was wroooonnggggg
I agree with you. Hopefully I'm right
De suite et pourtant je suis sur un mobile, la douceur, la fluidité, la profondeur sont évidentes a l'écoute, Fedora en 1,
Maintenant, 12k, c'est abuser, sur que l'on peut trouver aussi bien a bien moins cher.
Perso j'ai une JBass de 77, et je ne suis pas prêt de m'en séparer.
The reality here and in many other areas is that modern processes have raised the quality of even the cheap knockoffs significantly higher that of the past. This is great news for the learners and dabblers who can actually get closer to a real taste of the thing, and maybe be more likely to stick with it... I was in this group and a really fun knock off was my gateway to bass.
SBL was a big help too! Thanks Scott!
This is just incredible. They sound almost exactly the same despite the fact that for the price of one of them you could get a car.
I could tell by the look on your face. #1 was the look of pure joy and #2 was the look of hard work.
You could tell by Scott's face alone which was which. You could see how much joy he was getting from playing bass #1 😄
A few people have said that! 🤣🤣
This is my current pet peeve. Turning the tone knob all the way down is really in vogue right now but it really kills the unique qualities (or lack thereof) of any bass. At that point, it doesn't matter what bass you're playing, as long as it's in tune and is comfortable to play. However, I like to hear some tone from a bass, so I might be a bit snobbish toward the cheapest basses.
You have a good point. In the right hands with the right settings, you can basically equalize the playing field. The real expense of higher end basses is in material and craftsmanship - a guitar made on a CNC will probably be 95% good most of the time, but it lacks the care of detail that makes it a pleasure for the player right out of the box
I was thinking the same thing, that he tried to match the fodera to the sound of the cheap bass, to make it harder for us lol. I like my tone knob all the way up usually too.
A P-bass pickup with the tone at 10 is going to sound nothing like a dual coil 5-string pickup with the tone at 10, no matter which one is more or less expensive. That would have made it a dead giveaway. In his J-bass vs Fodera video he had the tones up because they were both single-coil pickups. P-bass vs P-bass would have been better comparison but not as big of a price gap per se.
@@EpictheEpicest You're right. They would sound nothing alike if the tone were not severely rolled off. This is like comparing the vocals of Sid Vicious and Maria Callas with socks stuffed in their mouths. It's pointless.
Well, my assumption was correct, Fodera #1 and Amazon #2, there was a lot more noise to the Amazon bass. That Fodera had me for a few moments though, that bass has a lovely P style tone. That, and Scott's bass face always seems to give away when he's playing something really nice, vs a lower quality bass.
Agree
Agreeee
Would have been nice to have the Amazon one set up properly first! I would guess the Fodera had a great setup job already done.
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I seriously doubt that a setup would have helped that banana of a neck.
a setup would cost almost as much as the bass-shaped object. giving away all those basses, he's gotta watch the bottom line.
The problem is that these cheap basses can't be tuned well, they have crooked necks, and crooked frets.
@@dhtsoaedsdhtnadi9575 What rubbish, a set up costs nothing as I bet the Allen key came for free. It will have taken just a few minuets to set up the cheap bass, a child can do it.
I have an amazon bass. New electronics, a setup, and a hofner HI 500/1 pickup in the neck makes it THUMP. All in all, I only dropped 160$ on the whole thing.
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Bass #1 had me as the PB at first because I did not expect the Fodera to sound like that. After bass #2 I was convince from the overtones of the other strings, the noise from sliding on the fretboard that was the P bass. Also, you seem to have much more pleasure playing the first bass. Overall, I think the sound the fish bass takes the cake. 😁
I bought a $250 Chinese Ric 4003 off Ali-somethingorother about 10 years ago. It has two extra frets, the goofiest sounding pickups, a bridge that's basically non-adjustable due to poor machining, and piss-poor electronics. I have to smack it once in a while because the pickup selector switch is so corroded, even after countless squirts of contact cleaner.
You know what other musicians say to me after a show with it? "THAT RICKENBACKER SOUNDS AMAZING! YOU CAN ALWAYS TELL A REAL RICK THE WAY IT STANDS OUT!! I LOVE THAT TOAAAN"
It sounds like you'd expect. I gig with it a lot out of pure spite.
I was correct!!!!!!!! Because for the fist one u played on the b string so that gave it away and the fidera sounded like smooth and the other one I could hear the struggle with the instrument. Thanks Scott 😊
Ha! I was right. The second one sounded like you were working extra hard to hit all the notes, the first one was more relaxed and at ease.
They both sounded good to me, so much for $12k for a bass that sounds almost like the cheapest Bass.
1 was the Fodera. 2 the Amazon. You could hear the action and intonation struggle on 2 lol.
Especially towards the end. But darn, they sound really close.
Yes, you could hear him fighting the action. You could also hear that the intonation was out, every time he left a note ringing out over a low E.
You can hear a bit of string noise from the b string on the fodera, but the cheap one really was impressive
I was guessing Bass #2 was the cheap one, due to the faces Scott was making while playing it. Couldn't tell a great deal of difference by the sound alone, though.
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I guessed right, but I agree that tone-wise they were pretty close. I guess when you spend $12K you're getting something that is nicer to play, not necessarily nicer sounding.
My ears aren’t good enough to tell the difference. I bought a no name $99 bass 30 years ago from sears. I started and stopped playing a couple times but lately I’ve been trying to learn how to play it again. It’s junk but it works for me to learn. The “E” string vibrates too much and one of the plastic tuning knobs cracked and broke off a while ago. I tell myself that I will some day buy a better base when I’m happy with my improvement in playing. I appreciate the videos because it helps me learn more about how to play better! 👍
I guessed it by the face you had when you played: with the first one it was fun and enjoyment and with the second one haven't stopped looking at it... XD
The first bass you play is the Fodera, I hear a more defined sound with more harmonics, the second is the one purchased from Amazon, it has a poorly defined sound with few harmonics!Hi Scott...
1 fodera. Scott's facial expressions and body language while playing each were clear giveaways
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you should’ve only let us hear the direct sound, that way, we couldn’t hear string noise/your breathing, etc. (so that we can imagine what it would sound like in a recording.) BTW, I got it right.
BTW, you make great content 🎉 !!!
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Did you folks ever get around to getting the Amazon bass setup ? I had a 1960 Tiesco guitar which was my first guitar & I could never get it to play right , constant buzz & many other problems . I traded it in 1975 to a bud for a set of flatwounds for my CopyCat Jazz bass . I thought I got the better end of the deal . My but tore the Tiesco down to bare neck & body & slowly got it back together & he giged with that guitar for years . I haven't seen him in years but last time I saw him he said he has many much nicer guitars but still plays the Tiesco .You may find you have a diamond in the rough .
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Fodera is#1, Amazon is#2. Difference on Scott's face says everything!
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I guessed right but it was such a slight difference - can't honestly say it wasn't just a guess.
I guessed correctly. To be honest the second had more clarity and tone-wise was the clear winner ..🤷🏽
Harder to tell over cell phone speakers, but still Fodera was 1. Very easy to figure it out with decent speakers.
Immediately I thought 2 was the cheap one because it sounded a bit brittle even on my phone. Last doubts were gone at the slide at the end, to stepping, because of the hi action.
Bass 1 was the expensive one I think, sounded a bit louder but at least through the YT compression and through my speakers sounded the same surprisingly
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I was right but have to admit that just based on the clips that Scott played there was not a huge difference in just the sound. Of course there are many other factors to consider in purchasing an instrument. Companies like Squier, Sterling, and Harley Benton are putting out some excellent basses in sound, playability, features, looks, etc... for under $400 now.
I could tell too cause the low E was out of tune on the 2nd one 😂
guessed correctly :)
mainly because of the intonation & effort it took to play bass # 2...
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I got it right. I pretty much always get these type of videos right. That being said, I totally get the point. There is not that much of a sound difference.
I really thought the Fodera was the 1st bass. Scott played it very fluidly compared to the 2nd bass, which seemed like Scott was putting more effort into it because of the high setup.
Isn't he saying the Fodera is the 1st??? 4:38
I got it right! But only because I watched your face and actions. I noticed with the 1st that you put more feeling into it like you were use to it. But with the second one you were just playing not a lot of feeling. That first one was your baby. As a guitar player, I get sad, dropping mine off for a string change😅. We can become comfortable and attracted to our instruments.
1 sounds easier for you and has like a noble growl. Whatever that means but it seem a just description. 2 sounds like your having trouble and it sounds faded. But this was amazing video!
1. Fodera 2.Amazon
The Fodera sounds smoother and you looked like you were having more fun.
OH MAN! I cannot BELIEVE that I got that wrong!!! My ears are definitely going in my old age! Probably due to listening to hours of 120 mph winds from Hurricane Ian!! Great "side-by-side" test, Scott!
Scott knows how to make basses sound good, thats the problem! 🤣 Stay safe out there & thanks for checking the video! 👊🏻
i just appreciate the bass when you're playing the basses
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1. Amazon 2. Fodera… I want one of those 😅
Yeah i got it right but it was close-you’re a good player thats why.
Without looking at anybody else's ccomments: Fedora bass 1, Amazone bass 2. My guess is based on the intonation, especially the last chord. Seems like the neck hasn't been properly adjusted and I doubt the Fedora would have that problem.
Edit: wow, I can't spell, can I? To be fair, I was typing without looking at the screen lest I see what someone else wrote. So I said the Fodera was bass 1 and I was correct. WOOT!
Bass #2 is the amazon, just on seeing Scott face while playing. 😊 It's all in the hands (and soundwise the pickup, that you can change) Buy a Fodera is buy an absolute piece of craftmanship and a great instrument. It can be more inspiring to play but can't make you play better. But if you buy a cheap instrument, you have to know how to make it playable with good setup (fret work, bridge, nut and truss rod adjustement). For the rest it's all in your head for what's written on the headstock. I saw a few years ago Bireli Lagrene playing alone on a 200 bucks yamaha pacifica, jaw dropped, godly tone.
Guessed correctly. #2 had new string noise as Scott was sliding around the neck, plus a mid-range bump.
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i could tell because the cheaper bass had a distinct hum. That was the only distinguishing thing I found
Got it right, listened with the eyes closed. The Fodera give away was the balanced tone note to note. The Amazon P was much more uneven. The setup could help with playability and intonation, but can't get you that smooth tone overall.
Wish when folks did these comparisons, they would spend 30 min or so setting the instruments up before playing them. Would likely make a world of difference.
Fodera=#1, Amazon bass=#2.
Very subtle noise on the cheap bass, perhaps a slight bit of fret buzz.
Not gonna lie, I thought it was swapped, only because I like a brighter bass sound. Really in a blind test with tone being in the same ballpark, the only thing that matter is how it feels to the player. In that respect, the player would probably perform differently depending on how comfortable the bass feels to play. Otherwise it's hard to make a guess based solely on the sound of the strings and pickups
2 notes in...I know Bass A was the Fodera. A testament to your skill, musicianship, & technique...Bass B did not sound terrible. At all.
In '75, I bought a '64 P bass for $200. A total log. Hadda fight it. Really had to learn to play it to get a decent tone. In the long run, I believe that that extra effort/work paid off.
Yes, I can tell the difference😄 1: Fodera, 2: Amazon.
You should fix up the Amazon bass with some new pick ups, a new pick guard and do a good set up on it. That would be kinda fun.
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This was rather easy for me. Bass #2 is undeniably a P-bass with tone at 0. Bass #1 does not sound like a P-bass. That said it's not a bad P-bass tone for $100 and not 120x worse than the Fodera.
I guessed right, but when I heard the 1st one I thought it was the PB until I heard the tone of the second bass
My guess? bass 1: Fodera. bass 2: Oypla or whatever. Sound wasn't bad, but the intonation was off, and I'm guesing the intonation on a 12k fodera wouldn't be that far off. :)
I didn't comment, but I did guess Fodera for bass 1. It really came down to the low E response for me. Bass 1's E response was greater as well as more uniform. And I've found that a main sign of a bass being of lesser quality is that very thing: E and (for 5 strings) B response. However, I definitely agree with Scott that the sound is in the hands. For the most part, they sounded very similar. I'd say with a good setup, and a slightly better pickup install, the cheap bass would be within 95% of the Fodera sound-wise for most playing requirements. That's NOT to say that the Fodera isn't worth the money or that it's not as good as its price tag suggests. I'm sure the Fodera is superior in every way. It's just unfortunate that with it being a bass, its strong points aren't as in-your-face as a typically up-front instrument like guitar.
Bass #2 kinda gives it away by the intonation issues. That said, I still prefer its tone quality to that of the Fodera. The P pickup just can't be beat.
I was right only becose of the low string action at 2:53 min mark in the video, and the deeper sound of bass one compare to bass two. But like you said, it depends on who plays it.
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A nice bass has helped me more or less giving me more motivation to play i know I want to play more having a beast made in USA fender than I did with my schecter bass that and the sound that comes outta the fender makes me want to play more god the sound is insanely good
I know everyone is complaining about the noise on the Amazon one but I would say the flipside of it is that the Fodera hides some stuff I would prefere to be accessible. Put it another way, I feel I would need to boost the treble on the Fodera and not the other one.
Different tones for different tunes dude! 🤘🏻👊🏻🔥
The Fodera has 2 humbuckers, while the cheap P-Bass only has this split coil pickup. So Scott had to adjust the sound of the Fodera in order to avoid that one can recognize it by the sound of the (a) bridge pick.
#1 Amazon #2 Fodera Scott played #2 bass, last tone is noisy. That noise is string resonance, I think. Fodera is 5 stings. Maybe No mute. And sound of #2 bass is clear and just like a EQ sound. That’s why #2 is Fodera.
I love the demonstration, but since I am blin 5:46 d, I don’t know which base one! Maybe next time when you do comparisons, you should at least say what the bases that you’re comparing, and which one is the winner!
1st Fodera 2nd Amazon. Granted it wasn’t super apparent but with headphones, the tone was revealing.
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I guessed expensive first at first impression, then I wasn’t sure at the 2nd bass…but I noticed a buzz on the second one before I noticed buzz on the first one, so that’s what I used to guess. The cheap one is very surprising though because u made it sound so good…allbeit im using my cell phone speakers
Bass #1 The Foodeyra
Runner up, The Amazon
Scott submitting both like there's no tomorrow!
Proving it IS in the fingers.
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I would be very interested in a video where the relative importance of strings, pickups and body were explored. Assuming that all the basses were set up as well as they could be.
Just from my experience I would say that the strings make a much bigger difference than the pick ups and the body would be the least important.
Wow, OK, so I'm pretty sure this Amazon bass is the one a friend gave me several years ago when she was moving, that I decided to start playing last year. It has been very difficult to play -- the action is so high and it's made my hands and forearms hurt. And of course, that has been extremely discouraging, since I really do enjoy playing. So I am going to go get a set up to see if that helps. But, also, probably time to buy a bit nicer of a bass for serious study.
Decent midrange basses can sometimes be found on places like Craigslist and OfferUp for 100-200. Sometimes for less.
Hey Elizabeth, for a bass of that price its worth having a go yourself. There are loads of videos around on how to set up basses and its not that difficult. Getting a tech to do would cost me more than the bass is worth here in the UK!
I got it right... Though I didn't think it was much of a challenge, tbh!!
So... I feel like I should try the competition!
It's scary that this Amazon bass is only $100! Compare to this Fodera... Sheeesh! I will never give 12k for that difference in tone! Maybe playability and wood/hardware, etc. but still even half of it would be probably too much. All in all incredible .
I'm going with, Fodera #1 and Amazon #2. The 1st bass was very clean sounding, the second not so much.
My guess is 1) Fodera, 2) Amazon. I would say that learning to set up a bass (or guitar) is part of owning one, although I might be a little biased as I assembled my first bass (a Hayman 40/40) from parts and set it up myself.
You got it! 🤘🏻
Honestly that was pretty easy to tell.
Bass 1 was the fodera - bass 2 is the Amazon bass. The extra noise and earth hum I could hear gives it away!
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Should've set the Amazon bass up first (action and intonation) then compared it with your Moulon P (D.I. signal) with the tone control up. Might have been more revealing
The Fodera was Bass 2 - the Oypla had a pretty apparent split-coil sound to it, and it definitely sounded like its action was higher!
Head to 04:39 to see if you were right!
My first bass was the first in my long list of homemade instruments. It was a multilaminated teardrop body (remember this is in the 60's when Vox and the Beatles were popular) and had a Framus neck because I had no idea how to make a neck (I was 16). I sold that after I went to college at 17 and bought a Gibson EB-0 which I later converted into an EB-3.
This again shows how important a setup is... I would rather have a well setup 'cheap' bass than a poorly setup 'expensive' bass.
Fidora#1 Mystery Bass #2 However, changing the set up on #2 could make a difference. To me the sound of a bass is 1rst, 2nd is feel or personal playability. That is why for me a Gibson bass is better than a Fender bass - just a personal preferance.
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Not gonna lie...I got it wrong 😱 the tones sounded pretty similar listening in my car but it sounded like there was a bit of clacking from strings hitting the fretboard with bass #1 which I (wrongly) attributed to the higher action of the Amazon bass
I got it correct but I was surprised of how difficult it was with the dry tones. The difference wasn't super clear to me and I felt very nervous of getting it wrong. I think it goes to show that a good player can sound good on a bad bass. Also I think listening to these live from an amp in a room would make the difference way more noticeable.
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I knew immediately that bottom end of the first bass wasn't a P. Listening to the first few notes of the second confirmed it.
Is it just me, or does it sound like you're not DI'd straight to the recording device, or have post eq? Having this completely clean from 50HZ to 15kHZ would really give us a better understanding of the tone!
The Fodera sounds like my Schecter Stiletto Custom 5. Makes me realize how good of a choice I made with it!
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I got it right. But lets keep in mind you can take a $100 bass and tweek stuff to make it more comfortable to play. You could just take it to another level and rip the cheepy apart and redo it to make it your own. Its a very rewarding project if your into that stuff. SBL has some great vids on how to do this stuff. I bought a Ibanez $170 bass GSR100EX just to have a practice bass I can fling around. Its light and looks good. Out of the box it wasn't too bad but after some tweeks to the neck, action and intonation, it plays great and sounds like a vintage bass. I started using it at gigs and I get a lot of compliments on it. It's not my only bass but I love it as much as the pricey ones I own. Cheers all!
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For a while I was gigging with a low-end Ibanez Talman bass. People would compliment it and I'd be like "yeeaaahhhh, sure..."
1=Fodera. I only say that because you seemed to be struggling a bit more to play the second bass. It looked like you were physically having to put more effort into it. Now, you are a clever guy so you might be doing that on purpose! You made both basses sound good.
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I got it right, but the mix made it harder than it needed to be-tone down and bass up obscured the natural sounds of the instruments somewhat.
At first I thought the first bass is the cheap one 'cause the rattling sounds made the impression that you struggle to play it. I've got a really cheap bass from Aliexpress so that looked similar. But then I listend to the second bass and changed my mind. The second one's tone has too much highs and it is too noisy, so I don't believe that someone would pay much for it :)
So my guess is: 1) Fodera 2) Amazon
I think the first bass was the cheap one while the second was the Fodera. Turns out I was wrong. I don't know much about basses obviously lol
I picked the Fodera as bass #1 solely on the tone. It was much more pleasing and smoother that bass #2. I suspected that I would be able to discern a difference in intonation, but you did marvelous job masking differences there.
BTW, I don't need another bass, but I wouldn't say no the Fodera.
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Couldn't afford a Fodera Imperial in 2019, decided I'd just build my own.
Best decision of my life.
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Ï d say thé 1 is thé Fodera and 2 the cheap...but Scott you ré à King to make it soins great thouh
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I guessed correctly. Fedora was clean and clear; Amazon had ugly distortion and screechy highs, and was noticably not intonated properly.
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My first a fernder pbass mex 1992 and the last a JCR Custom. Actually , are the only two basses that i have
Nailed it. Number one: Fedora. Number two; Amazon. Cheap pickups sound muddy. Listening on my 15 inch Fender Bassman 100 made it easy to tell the difference.
Don't think he was playing a hat 🤣😉
@@cityslickerbass Not enough coffee in me.
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Its Fodera.... a fedora is a hat
I got it right because of the way you played the second one, kind of a not so convenient job.
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