The BIG Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic Retrospective

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    Timestamps:
    Intro - 0:00
    Preface - 6:07
    Character Creation - 8:04
    Endar Spire - 17:03
    Taris - 27:49
    Dantooine - 1:02:57
    Yavin DLC - 1:32:36
    Tatooine - 1:35:04
    Kashyyyk - 1:58:59
    Manaan - 2:17:36
    Leviathan - 2:46:55
    Korriban - 2:56:45
    Lehon - 3:09:52
    Star forge - 3:18:50
    Conclusion - 3:34:24
    Patreon - 3:39:10
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  • @SuperRADLemon
    @SuperRADLemon  Рік тому +246

    Thanks for watching as always. If you want to see more, be sure to check my channel and subscribe!!
    Correction:
    My voice dupes at 2:49:10-2:49:25

    • @bigunknown
      @bigunknown Рік тому +9

      Don’t know if you realized this but there’s a moment 2:49:10 - 2:49:25 ish your voice duplicates itself

    • @scp2539
      @scp2539 Рік тому +3

      this was an interesting video, thank you for taking the time to make it ^,^

    • @travisadams6279
      @travisadams6279 Рік тому +2

      There are multiple ways to stop Malak from absorbing power from the jedi bodies. Besides force breach, you can use lightsaber throw or force lightning, you can even use force drain like he does and empower yourself flipping the tables entirely.

    • @Parker--
      @Parker-- Рік тому +1

      Lol the game was never one of the most graphically stunning games on the xbox much less the PC. You already had games like Halo CE, Final Fantasy X and X-2, Soul Calibur 2, Rogue Squadron 2, Virtua Fighter, and Doom on PC. The character models weren’t great, the animations were bad, the framerate sucked, the level design and textures were repetitive hallways, and there were not vistas or detailed characters.
      I love the game. It was an ugly game even back in the day, but adequate because it just needed to tell the story.

    • @barrybend7189
      @barrybend7189 Рік тому

      Oh one thing I noticed always hoard mines in Kotor 2. One free XP from disabling them and 2 Atton can use them twice to get out of two very tricky fights with ease.

  • @starflight
    @starflight Рік тому +3516

    Oh thank god, another multi-hour long story analysis on a game from the early 2000’s by someone I never regularly watch. I shall consume this media voraciously and eagerly await more.

    • @Lobsterwithinternet
      @Lobsterwithinternet Рік тому +271

      Me: “A fine addition to my collection!” 💿🤏🦞

    • @ElamW
      @ElamW Рік тому +70

      This is literally me

    • @tyler8995
      @tyler8995 Рік тому +47

      I'm in this comment and I'm ok with that

    • @lilprezzy7271
      @lilprezzy7271 Рік тому +19

      I'm glad I'm not alone man xD

    • @sneakingcon
      @sneakingcon Рік тому +33

      Yeah I can't count how many retrospectives I listen too and I always learn something new!

  • @thomaswillard6267
    @thomaswillard6267 Рік тому +989

    I'm a simple man
    I see a Kotor retrospective, I spend several hours watching the Kotor retrospective

    • @l33_generic37
      @l33_generic37 Рік тому +13

      Same bro. Same.

    • @TheG1NGER
      @TheG1NGER Рік тому +5

      This.

    • @justfitz08
      @justfitz08 Рік тому +8

      And they're mostly all the same. But its kotor.. So if I get to hear the same thing said in different ways, I'm good with that, so long as kotor is the backdrop.

    • @nifftbatuff676
      @nifftbatuff676 10 місяців тому

      I am a simp man too.

    • @YEETUSDAFEETUS
      @YEETUSDAFEETUS 9 місяців тому +1

      it's not much but it's honest work

  • @Milos111Zivkov
    @Milos111Zivkov Рік тому +148

    "Don't call me that. I'm not Revan anymore. I'm SuperRad Lemon now."
    Love that.

    • @garlottos
      @garlottos 8 місяців тому +10

      Very funny moment if you named your character Revan

    • @KaygeeFromNanotrasen
      @KaygeeFromNanotrasen 3 місяці тому +2

      @@garlottos ikr lol

    • @redvikingbiker
      @redvikingbiker 3 місяці тому +7

      I almost always name him Naver Thrad. I always head cannon it as when the Jedi wiped his memory whoever gave him a new name paniced

    • @Milos111Zivkov
      @Milos111Zivkov 3 місяці тому +2

      Hahahhaha, second playtrough I did I named him Raven for the similar reason, not cause I was edgy. @@redvikingbiker

    • @KaygeeFromNanotrasen
      @KaygeeFromNanotrasen 2 місяці тому +1

      @@redvikingbiker ah yes, the reverse alias

  • @billyreynoldsjr2229
    @billyreynoldsjr2229 Рік тому +259

    HK-47 is the best companion in both games. His dialogue is almost always golden.

    • @Miss_Trillium
      @Miss_Trillium Рік тому +11

      And any time it's not golden, it sure is at least silver

    • @fatakcz5962
      @fatakcz5962 Рік тому +1

      Shut up meatbag

    • @WolfHreda
      @WolfHreda Рік тому +1

      STATEMENT: This is true, meatbag.

    • @Vladislav888
      @Vladislav888 Рік тому +7

      He is Revan by proxy in a second one

    • @bradcarver8127
      @bradcarver8127 Рік тому +15

      I love Canderous. My friend and I called him out drug dealer because of all the Stims he gives you

  • @sekroz896
    @sekroz896 Рік тому +646

    Its a shame that we haven't had games like these for almost 2 decades. You would think a starwars role-playing game would have been released twice in that time considering how fondly the 2 kotor games are remembered within the community.

    • @devinhargrave4723
      @devinhargrave4723 Рік тому +62

      Its just a matter of greed on EA's part. They have exclusivity, once upon a time Lucas used to say "any story can be a star wars story" and that reflected in things like the clone wars and the plethora of games we used to receive. Now there's only ONE entity that can sign off on the games and its clear that they don't have the background to give us a ground breaking RPG. To their credit though Jedi: Fallen Order is a really good game but its more action than roleplaying game.

    • @LordNexusTheFir
      @LordNexusTheFir Рік тому +5

      Yea.
      Hopefully things change in the coming year/s cause with modern graphics, physics for clothing, animations, the ability to have mods on consoles a Kotor 1 & 2 like series & Kotor 3 & potentially 4 with Kotor 1 & 2 remakes could bring in hundreds of millions for the remakes & to billions for all new content for the series alone. Not counting new adventures.

    • @ianleifheit7105
      @ianleifheit7105 Рік тому +19

      @@devinhargrave4723 it also doesn’t help that EA is very much against single player games.

    • @smrii2487
      @smrii2487 Рік тому +32

      I blame Bioware. They were trying to capitalize on WoW hype and make a quick buck and put out SWTOR instead of a proper KOTOt 3

    • @TheStonewall117
      @TheStonewall117 Рік тому +34

      Honestly, we live in a day and age were I’d actually be scared if they made a sequel to KOTOR.
      I’m also scared for the remake of the original KOTOR.

  • @brentloy131
    @brentloy131 Рік тому +354

    As a kid on a trip in NYC I picked up two Xbox games while out and about with family. My choices weren’t random, but they were entirely based off the cover art and pictures. I was very ignorant to great games and hadn’t found my preference in games up until that day. The two games I bought that day were Elder Scrolls Morrowing and KOTR. Little did I know I had grabbed up two of the greatest games of all time.

  • @ChizFreak
    @ChizFreak Рік тому +85

    I got an eye condition rendering almost blind for a few days and I've searching for good long videos to listen to while I recover and rest. This video is just what I needed (I already listened to your MH videos). Thank you.

  • @Acecard-jl2py
    @Acecard-jl2py Рік тому +57

    Ah! As for the Sentinel class, it gains immunities to certain powers. One thing I dislike is fear. When you level up the sentinel they gain immunities to the highest form of fear. It’s not much, but I prefer that.

  • @XavierGrim
    @XavierGrim Рік тому +121

    On the topic of Jolee Bindo and the Gray Jedi, while I like the concept of them as individuals who follow the Light without adherence to the politics of the Council or fear of indulging in their emotions, they've never really existed beyond the lip service of the fans. Hell, even in this game and the sequel there is no mechanical benefit to trying to walk the line between Light and Dark. As far as the game is concerned, there's only value in adhering to either good or evil, everything else is muddying the waters.

    • @78910idontknow
      @78910idontknow Рік тому +30

      I'm just happy to see comments that get the definition right rather than the definition of Grey jedi as "using both the light and dark side" because the PC wants to spam force lightning.

    • @lancetoston3941
      @lancetoston3941 Рік тому +3

      @@78910idontknow but light side users can use a similar technique force judgment. Then one could always be a night sister(they are neither dark nor light)

    • @Reverse_Hood
      @Reverse_Hood Рік тому +13

      Because Gray is more edgy cowards who want all the power and do nothing with them

    • @FalenDragmire
      @FalenDragmire Рік тому +16

      @@lancetoston3941 The Nightsisters are most definitely dark side users.

    • @Sone01TheFirst
      @Sone01TheFirst Рік тому

      probably because running of a system of "Save one innocent, murder a different innocent to stay gray' is pretty fucking retarded and is utterly mind boggling how everyone seems to keep failing to realize that's what they keep advocating for when they go "But Gray is better! You get all of the cool Jedi benefits while being rewarded for being a selfish little shit"

  • @pp-rw9do
    @pp-rw9do Рік тому +181

    The fact the remake to this game got cancelled recently makes this retrospective hit so much harder

  • @Underrated_History1863
    @Underrated_History1863 Рік тому +51

    I love going through both KOTOR 1 and 2 role playing as a Jedi who has given up their blade and uses blasters. Early game play is pretty rough but by mid game you are melting through everything and it ironically makes the malak fight rather easy so long as you’ve picked up a force power that slows or stops him. You can just lead him around blasting away in it. It makes me wish there was a game or story that pursues this path. I know the sabers are cool but a Jedi that’s put their skills into blasters would be pretty cool.
    Great vid btw same with Vegas. Top notch

    • @bradcarver8127
      @bradcarver8127 Рік тому +7

      I feel like a jedi would be an amazing sharpshooter

    • @malbasedvalentine3210
      @malbasedvalentine3210 Рік тому +8

      Lol, the Kyle Katarn method.

    • @sawyeratkinson
      @sawyeratkinson Рік тому +3

      Wish they'd make an rpg that wasn't solely focused on the jedi or you at least had the option to deny your involvement in the force instead of getting trained. The Hans, landos, dash renders, wedges, even recently with andor...jedi aren't the only great thing about star wars. On top of rpgs, I wouldn't mind seeing another rogue squadron type game...used to love that game on n64 back in the day

    • @MrPsyren99
      @MrPsyren99 11 місяців тому

      My favorite build tbh, especially as a dark side user who just blasts anyone and everyone he wants

    • @fusrosandvich3738
      @fusrosandvich3738 9 місяців тому

      @@bradcarver8127 Well, there is the Sith that favored blasters, though I forget his name at this exact moment. His blaster's flavor text is "This has killed more Jedi than any lightsaber." You can't even use it if you aren't dark-side aligned. So yeah, a jedi or sith switching to a blaster works out pretty effectively.

  • @supersaiyandrgnslayr
    @supersaiyandrgnslayr Рік тому +113

    I'm a bit upset you didn't really go in-depth on how amazing Korriban can be as a light-side character. You can actually redeem many of the students you meet in the Academy, either by showing them how the sith failed them or by persuading them back to the light. The runaway students you can save and allow to escape; Mekei, the one in the tomb you fight alongside with, can turn away from the dark side even without guarantee he will be a Jedi. And the backstory of Yuthura Ban, showing how she joined the Darkside to save the slaves....but the drive for power made her forget why she turned in the first place and never did anything she set out to do, showing how the darkside really is a corruption and how the Jedi failed to give her peace of mind for it either. It is almost as nuanced as Manaan.

    • @SuperRADLemon
      @SuperRADLemon  Рік тому +30

      Yeah I didn't fit everything in or fully realize that multiple characters had this mechanic. Seems almost like foreshadowing for how KOTOR2 let's you handle your party

    • @supersaiyandrgnslayr
      @supersaiyandrgnslayr Рік тому +13

      @@SuperRADLemon True, I actually love the fact that you can directly influence characters to go certain paths. Kotor2 Nar Shaddaa man is full of NPC whose fates can be directly tied to what you do. Even still, I love how the Sith Academy actually tries to justify itself as not being evil, that it's about freedom....only for the lessons you learn going into the temples to show some of them that in practice, you won't get that from the Sith.

    • @markl5998
      @markl5998 Рік тому +5

      When you put it that way about Yuthera... That's deep. It's simple but not obvious. Don't forget your goals. Don't forget why you are doing what you do

    • @mikeblaze7424
      @mikeblaze7424 Рік тому

      And Carths son

  • @monoclesquid9667
    @monoclesquid9667 Рік тому +35

    Jedi Sentinel only really shines in KOTOR 2, where skills become much more important due to the crafting system

  • @himbourbanist
    @himbourbanist Рік тому +23

    omfg this is so long, I can't wait. Idk how I keep finding wildly long reviews for games I played 20 years ago that I consistently enjoy. These long videos are perfect for a night off from work. My cat and I are huge fans.

  • @eriklund8592
    @eriklund8592 Рік тому +16

    As someone else mentioned, "thank god, another multi hour long analysis". And it is a video-essay for one of my favourite games ever! Never watched you before, but this was awsome.

  • @ingolf82
    @ingolf82 Рік тому +11

    you can cheese the Calo Nord fight, you can run past him and ignore him completely, if you do this 2 or 3 times, he just... dies. this is because Darth Bandon has to appear, so if you just ignore him he just dies without cause. Bioware didn't make it so you can't flee the battle and they didn't count on people doing that. However, he isn't a problem to kill so ignoring him makes you miss out on loot.
    Jolee Bindo is also the origin of the phrase "pulling a Bindo" (secret marriage).
    Manaan has a trap of sorts. a point of no return, if you screw up, you have to restart the whole game. in my first playthrough back to this game for many years, I forgot to take the side mission involving finding some Selkath youths. If you do not take this mission before going into the sith base, you will be executed by the Selkath when you exit the base and if you don't have a save game before you entered, you have to restart the whole game. I made this mistake, don't do what I did.
    what I find most fun about Korriban is when you encounter some Sith acolytes for the first time (Lashoe and the others) and they ask you to tell a joke and you have Canderous with you, you tell a joke about some Mandalorians, he has some comments about that.

    • @ladykathris8721
      @ladykathris8721 7 місяців тому +1

      10 months late to this, but there is a very obscure way to get out of being executed on Manaan without the Selkath youth side quest. You have to mention being lured inside by the Sith, and then say you were invited under the pretense of establishing diplomatic relations with them. I found this out a few years ago, definitely would have helped to know it when I was playing this game at like 5 years old. 😂 About as annoying as getting out of being exiled from the planet after you kill the giant fish.

    • @skycastrum5803
      @skycastrum5803 5 місяців тому

      @@ladykathris8721I just finished my first play-through. Framing the sith was the first thing I tried. Helped it was a dark side play through. I figured my character was still pro-Republic, so it just kinda fit.

  • @Playboi_Alucardi
    @Playboi_Alucardi Рік тому +29

    I feel the need to add my voice to the choir singing praise for your long-form content. As someone who started Monster Hunter with MHW, I loved learning the history of the games from your videos. Now Fallout:NV, DD, and KOTOR, your videos are a magical retrospective down memory lane and I thank you for it. You've put a lot of time and effort into these videos and it really shows. Thank you.

  • @lupvirga
    @lupvirga Рік тому +9

    i think the twist is fun because, regardless what you thought your backstory was, you are actually something else. and it doesn't mean you weren't LIKE that character at one point of your life, but, you became something else.

  • @douglasgw1992
    @douglasgw1992 Рік тому +19

    fun story i played KOTOR 2 before KOTOR 1 it made the reval in KOTOR more of a mind blown moment because i was waiting to see Revan

    • @silentsmokeNIN
      @silentsmokeNIN Рік тому +4

      Damn. I'm kind of jealous of that reveal haha

  • @aceykerr8752
    @aceykerr8752 Рік тому +12

    I'm not trying trying bribe you, but I'd pay for more content like this.
    Multi hour long breakdowns of classic games. This is brilliant.

  • @greyshadow9498
    @greyshadow9498 Рік тому +16

    What you didn't want to go into the woman's runaway sexbot on Dantooine?
    Fun Fact: Nearly 20 years ago, I walked AROUND Calo Nord on Tatooine and he's been standing there waiting for me ever since. 🤣

  • @smkeybare
    @smkeybare Рік тому +7

    2:10:15 I'm so glad you observed this! This is why I think RPG's with morality alignment systems should only trigger or apply to what you DO, not what you say.

  • @alexwatts1064
    @alexwatts1064 Рік тому +10

    Jade Empire's arena was really good, too. And it had some extra plot stuff thrown in.

  • @d3ishere753
    @d3ishere753 Рік тому +22

    Man you keep making what you enjoy. It really shows in how in depth you talk about these games. I hope Dragon Age Origins is on the list. If not I fully understand, but I feel like there is so much worth looking into.

    • @613space8
      @613space8 Рік тому +4

      Was actually hoping to see an Origins video as well, I've played that game to death and based on his other retros I'd love to hear his opinions on the different themes and politics that take place in that game

  • @TrendyTrenty
    @TrendyTrenty Рік тому +13

    Dude I am so pumped for the Kotor 2 one. Immediate sub

  • @Kasaaz
    @Kasaaz Рік тому +6

    1:45:00 - I actually do know why they have random encounters in this area. I'm trying to find the exact source, but it has to do with a technical limitation and the size of the area. From what I remember, they couldn't pre-populate it all because it was too much for the game to keep track of or something like that. Without any real occlusion, I think? Man, getting old sucks, but I remember someone talking about specifically this. This was the solution to not make it feel totally empty because of the limitations of the tech.

  • @JosephRHyman
    @JosephRHyman 11 місяців тому +11

    Protip: You can skip the puzzle/fight with the replicating droids before Malak. Just bash the elevator door and follow him.

  • @Miss_Trillium
    @Miss_Trillium Рік тому +9

    20 min in: not just historical for kotor, but gaming as a whole. Its up there in all time 'twists', like Samus being revealed to be a woman

  • @DSzaks
    @DSzaks Рік тому +6

    Just FYI for anyone unaware you can also use force drain (I'm told force stasis works as well but can't confirm that) to kill Jedi husks in the final Malak fight. Additionally after Malak drains the first one all the rest will be marked as hostile and can then be killed with almost any type of attack.

    • @rafenord2
      @rafenord2 11 місяців тому

      Hey husk! You undead piece of shit! You’re my enemy now! Got that? Lightsaber away!

    • @skycastrum5803
      @skycastrum5803 5 місяців тому

      Force storm works too. Even get BOGO when they were close enough together. Force drain line probably best though to help you top off. Funny turning the tables on Malak.

  • @SGR_Renegade
    @SGR_Renegade 8 місяців тому +4

    I've recently started to discover retrospectives, and they are some of my favorite types of media. I will spend days consuming these. I am still early into this one, but love it already. Thanks for making these! I will be watching almost all of them. 💁🏼‍♂️😅

  • @FlyMontag
    @FlyMontag Рік тому +4

    I love listening to these! I find it relieving to hear someone talk about videogames who isn't trying to be such an edgelord all the time. You seem like a decent person and the sparse social commentary is always welcome (to me) and I appreciate that it doesnt feel preachy etc etc etc

  • @ryankelly8428
    @ryankelly8428 Рік тому +4

    The arena quest in the first Fable game is also very fun! One of my favorite things each time I play through, I love testing out how different builds work and play in the arena.

  • @Anynom
    @Anynom Рік тому +6

    Man, I love this game, still utter genius and gets better every time you play.

  • @mdube391
    @mdube391 Рік тому +3

    thank you for the indepth content... this is one of the most underrated pair of rpg , I still find new info and gems every time I try a new playthrough

  • @adamjdavis201
    @adamjdavis201 Рік тому +5

    I love watching long form video essays on things I know I like to get other people's perspectives on it, what they like and don't like, and maybe get some insights into other things I might be interested in tangentially.
    Also gives me something to focus on for long stretches of time that I can't quite replicate with other things lately, love these videos. This one especially because Kotor may be the first game I fell in love with on a console other than my Gameboy and Pokemon. I got to borrow a cousin's Xbox and Kotor and I wish I could know how much time I spent on it and 2.

  • @pizzaman1891
    @pizzaman1891 Рік тому +8

    Love seeing retrospectives over my favorite game of all time.

  • @clayp6415
    @clayp6415 11 місяців тому +8

    Kreia had some of the best dialogue ive seen in a video game. Her entire story arc throughout kotor 2 is amazingly well done.

  • @christopherwichman7968
    @christopherwichman7968 Рік тому +3

    Hey man when I was 10 I didn't know what the hell Arboreal meant lol.

  • @FriendofFantasy
    @FriendofFantasy Рік тому +3

    I finally listened to the whole video besides playing it two times at night and then falling asleep during Taris.

  • @tomasburian6550
    @tomasburian6550 Рік тому +6

    Never thought that even in this year someone would look back at this game. It's nice that even though I finished it several times, I've learned some new facts here.
    Btw, I'd love for you to analyze the Xenosaga trilogy because that one is DEEP with its lore and inspiration by Nietzsche's works and is overall a series of good games.

  • @Flumpadorus
    @Flumpadorus 11 місяців тому +4

    Something that doesn’t get mentioned often is that there is an option to have visas use a blade weapon on herself in order to weaken nihilis when fighting on his ship. As long as during the fight visas is equipped with a blade weapon, there will be an option in a cutscene for her to sacrifice herself to weaken nihilis.

    • @SuperRADLemon
      @SuperRADLemon  11 місяців тому

      Interesting, I didn't know this!

  • @williammell845
    @williammell845 Рік тому +4

    Weirdly enough I have always loved Taris and love to see how fast I can 100% every quest and dialogue option, and then get to Dantooine. Once on Dantooine though I end up liking only a few of the quests before happily moving on and enjoying every other planet.
    I think it feels like on Taris I have the freedom to do anything I want as I slowly gain the power and resources to leave. One I'm on Dantooine I am stuck and restricted to whatever I am being told to do by the Jedi Council, with no agency. And then once I am off Dantooine and on to any other planet I am again in the driver's seat making my own decisions and doing whatever my character thinks is best.

    • @springheeljak145
      @springheeljak145 4 місяці тому

      I really liked Taris too. And I enjoyed trying to get my face warped by the dark side before I even left, but it required doing every single quest and taking the most evil option for all of them.

  • @Mockingdragon
    @Mockingdragon 10 місяців тому +1

    I have so many memories of KOTOR. This was the first game my brother ever played for me, because I wanted to do the RP parts but couldn't handle the combat (still can't, just not my jam lol).
    I remember so strongly the quest on Kashyyk, where you have to decide whether to allow the people to believe their hero died nobly or tell them the unsightly truth. I was SO SURPRISED when I got dark side points for preserving their hope and following the hero's wishes. It changed so much about my perspective of Star Wars and opened me up to question things, which only helped me engage with the fandom.

  • @basm4
    @basm4 11 місяців тому +3

    A multi hour retrospective about a beloved video game by someone I've never heard of... I'm all in!!! A new subscriber

  • @Heyimjosh
    @Heyimjosh Рік тому +3

    My work day went by a lot better thanks to you. We will watch your career with great interest. Cheers

  • @Xxbte96xX
    @Xxbte96xX Рік тому +4

    It's funny you mentioned the Oblivion ost when you spoke about the Manaan music because the composer for Oblivion also did the music for Kotor. And honestly you can kinda tell when you listen to them to back to back, very much his style.

  • @TwitchyTango
    @TwitchyTango 11 місяців тому +2

    Now that I have finished the video I just want to say a job well done. Watching this had me start another playthrough. Keep up the brilliant work super rad

  • @Miss_Trillium
    @Miss_Trillium Рік тому +3

    I sure look forward to watching this video, as I love any long form critique of my favorite game series of all time

  • @gyozanomics
    @gyozanomics Рік тому +3

    oh no fucking way you did another retrospective
    I don't know how you do it
    you're probably one of the foremost authorities on MH in the western world
    and you're pumping out these longform reviews
    you and grimbeard are just like the two most criminally underrated dudes on the platform

  • @david-kc5hr
    @david-kc5hr Рік тому +5

    The Malak fight drove me absolutely insane when I replayed kotor a year ago after not playing it for years. I tried playing a full dark side counselor, but he hits so hard and resists most force powers. I eventually gave up and made a light side jedi guardian where I used no force powers other than force heal, but I still failed because both characters didn't have the only force power that actually affected Malak whirlwind.

    • @jamesbrannon5099
      @jamesbrannon5099 Рік тому +1

      I remember my go to for fighting every time was just to kite him around the arena, throwing my lightsaber at him when he's a safe enough distance away.

    • @CrazyxEnigma
      @CrazyxEnigma 7 місяців тому

      As a Consular you're going to want Force Breach to take down his pesky resistance power, resistance isn't a bad power to take either if you have room. Plague is the best debuff in the game, the save is also so high it can't be resisted naturally.

    • @basedgamer6624
      @basedgamer6624 28 днів тому

      Jedi Guardian + Str focus + Master Speed + Force immunity + Energy Resistance = Op

  • @garyella1301
    @garyella1301 Рік тому +5

    I've been playing this game again but this time with a few mods installed, not gone crazy just a few things here and there and it's great how there is still a community for this game and how well it seems to hold up as a standard for games, despite some things being dated. Something about this game it has an infectious replayability to it. I'll be sure to watch this video over the course of the week as it seems even you have a lot to digest in it.

  • @xardiesn.o.o.b4971
    @xardiesn.o.o.b4971 Рік тому +9

    Look forward to the kotor 2 video, and yes taris is a pain, but I've been replaying two and yeah I feel like the mining station and the citidel/telos is a lot more of a slog because I like the flavor of taris with its multiple levels and types of people on it.

  • @coltoneddy3169
    @coltoneddy3169 Рік тому +4

    I literally just beat this game for the first time a couple days ago (on Switch). I loved every bit of it, I find myself playing old games rather than new even owning a Series X. I just started Kotor 2 wish me luck.

    • @markl5998
      @markl5998 Рік тому

      That's probably because alot of older games are better written,

  • @ogelpeace4610
    @ogelpeace4610 Рік тому +3

    This was a great video. As a major Star Wars fan who never played this, it was wonderful to see

  • @unchrassimatic
    @unchrassimatic 2 дні тому +1

    Between this and the Fallout videos, I am now fully obsessed with your channel. Here’s hoping we get massive analyses of Force Unleashed, Outer Worlds, and every other fallout game that isn’t 76 :)

  • @averagejoe5145
    @averagejoe5145 Рік тому +3

    There's another game that with a morality system that (from its in-game description) is comparable to Mass Effect's Paragon & Renegade system. That game is Jade Empire. Its morality system was SUPPOSED to have shades of gray in both like it does in Mass Effect, but Bioware didn't have such a good grasp on writing gray morality tales until the Dragon Age series & the Mass Effect Trilogy came along!

  • @jacobtuttle4311
    @jacobtuttle4311 Рік тому +5

    I can confirm that the enemies that are sent after you in the star forge do eventually end, even on the highest difficulty.

    • @SuperRADLemon
      @SuperRADLemon  Рік тому

      That's honestly good to know ty

    • @andrewbowen2837
      @andrewbowen2837 Рік тому

      After how long? Because I was there for at least 30 minutes before I decided to try looking around

  • @barstokians365
    @barstokians365 Рік тому +4

    Thank you for this retrospective! Truly a walk down memory lane. I can't wait for the one you do on TSL! I agree with you on liking that one more.
    It's refreshing to listen to someone who shares my ideas on both the Light Side and the Jedi. Always frustrates me. I know Lucas backed out on the concept that it's the Force, and then the Force's dark side which is a corruption. It still makes more sense to me, especially since the flaws of the Jedi are the flaws of mortals, not of the Force itself.
    Your opinion on Gray Jedi reminded me. I don't know if you've ever heard the Gray Jedi Code but it sounds to me like the most hilariously arrogant thing I've ever heard.

  • @GageReed
    @GageReed Рік тому +1

    I love this game and really like your review style. Starting the video now. Appreciate the hard work, sir.

  • @twelvesevven4678
    @twelvesevven4678 Рік тому +13

    You always know how to make me happy. I got tomorrow off of work and I wasn't too sure what I was gonna do with myself.
    If this is anywhere near the quality of your MH retrospectives, I'm looking forward to tomorrow way more than I was.
    I love finding channels that have similar interests as mine. Thanks, in advance, for being so consistently great with your content.

  • @luisyanez6261
    @luisyanez6261 Рік тому +5

    I love how the dogmatic debate about how the force works from a theological stanpoint is not a debate within the star wars universe but is whitin the fandom.
    With things like grey jedi and the like

  • @aurabullet4128
    @aurabullet4128 Рік тому +4

    I do love alignment systems in games. Even in a cartoonish level being able to impact a story and its outcome really is exciting to me and makes me want to play again. I feel more games could get away with it even if it is just a simple karma system.

  • @CBruceNL
    @CBruceNL 3 місяці тому +1

    Very liked and subscribed - what a huge volume of analysis! Thanks boss.

  • @evaunit0014
    @evaunit0014 Рік тому

    I remember playing this game when I was 8 or 9, some of my earliest really strong memories. I'm shocked about just how much of this I vividly remember while watching. Stuff like discovering I could exploit the stowaway child for dark side points and repeating that over and over until I got it maxed out is something that still crosses my memories to this day. And getting force lighting was the coolest thing ever as a child.

  • @alecdl98
    @alecdl98 Рік тому +3

    I'm not even halfway through this video yet, but I appreciate the immense effort put into this project. Long-form content like this is personally my favorite and it's made even better by the fact that I already love other retrospectives of the KOTOR series of similar length. This video will make a fine addition to my collection👍.....
    Alright just finished the video, great quality and a very in depth and fair analysis of KOTOR. Looking forward to KOTOR 2 as I enjoy that one far more than the first installment👌

  • @TheDarkmore
    @TheDarkmore Рік тому +3

    Best star wars RPG experience for sure.

  • @Yiit-fl9fj
    @Yiit-fl9fj 12 днів тому +1

    50:30 While you and many of the people watching may already know this, for those who dont, if you equip Carth with the Sith uniform and dismiss him from your party before agreeing to trade them to Gadon for the security papers, you'll be able to keep the uniform. It doesnt have any purpose here beyond aesthetics but thats still a good enough reason for me!

  • @ericbess4477
    @ericbess4477 2 місяці тому +1

    My favorite thing about Kotor on xbox was the ability to create a super jedi. It takes a while, depending on how far you want to advance your character, but it's worth it if you want to feel truly powerful. Max skills, feats, powers, and attributes as high as you want to make them. I think the furthest I ever maxed them was 80

  • @robertparker6280
    @robertparker6280 Рік тому +3

    The droid fight in the Star Forge if you have the "Destroy Droid" force power, and if you have upped your force powers. You can EASILY desimate the droids. Bruh the "Destroy Droid" force power, you can kill (I think) 3 at once.

  • @scroom1202
    @scroom1202 Рік тому +3

    Love is not the path to the dark side.
    The inability to let go is.
    You can love, and be loved, but when the time comes for what you love to die you must let it go.

  • @laurbelle
    @laurbelle Рік тому +2

    Will be sure to try this, thank you so incredibly much💕💕💕

  • @ASLTheatre
    @ASLTheatre Рік тому +5

    I had heard of KotOR but I first got to know the story in the novelization of the sequel book, Revan. At that time I was recovering from a brain injury that left me feeling much the same as Revan.
    I recently beat KotOR 1 on my Xbox Series S. The controls need to be updated but I loved the story.

    • @HickoryDickory86
      @HickoryDickory86 Рік тому

      You definitely should play KotOR 2 next. Play as a Light Side female and name her Meetra Surik.
      Yep, Meetra from the _Revan_ novel is the canonized player character of KotOR 2. The novel didn't really spoil anything for you, either.

    • @ASLTheatre
      @ASLTheatre Рік тому

      @@HickoryDickory86 I will get KotOR 2 as soon as I get enough GamePass reward points to get a gift card of $10. That will pay for it. (I’ve had my eye on that game for a long time.)
      I remember Meetra Surik from the novelization. In the novelization she goes on a quest to find Revan. Thanks for the heads up about who to play as. (I probably would of made my character male named Revan.)
      In my play through I was a male named Leroy Jenkins. Mostly because I knew I would screw something up.

    • @HickoryDickory86
      @HickoryDickory86 Рік тому +1

      @@ASLTheatre 😂 Not a problem. You can play as whoever you want, really, but I figured at least that first run you could get the canon story and then mix it up on different playthroughs.
      KotOR 2 offers a few different companions based on your sex as well as your Force alignment.

    • @SteelSpurs
      @SteelSpurs Рік тому

      @@ASLTheatre I thoroughly recommend looking into the PC version. The Xbox version is the base version and doesn’t include the Restored Content mod.

    • @ASLTheatre
      @ASLTheatre Рік тому

      @@SteelSpurs If I ever get into PC gaming I will be sure to check it out.

  • @danmounfield7431
    @danmounfield7431 Рік тому +3

    I can't explain why but these essay like reviews are definitely a vibe!

  • @harriskorbin9470
    @harriskorbin9470 Рік тому +2

    You had the most calm tone when saying like sub and comment I had too

  • @Mumpinator
    @Mumpinator Рік тому +2

    Hello there!
    I just love your super long videos. You‘re a true MVP of youtube Superrad!
    Thanks so much for Kotor and this trip down memory lane!

  • @jimboramba
    @jimboramba 11 місяців тому +3

    My favorite way to play kotor is to bump the difficulty up to hard, solo, using only blasters. The best build is a scoundrel, as they have the sneak attack feat, also they boast the largest amount of skill points to spare which adds more depth and planning to the combat encounters like planting mines. Oh man it's fun.

    • @markl5998
      @markl5998 8 місяців тому

      Wow I've never tried that it sounds wild

    • @CrazyxEnigma
      @CrazyxEnigma 7 місяців тому +1

      I slept on scoundrel for *years* Mission becomes a destroyer at high levels and as a dumb kid I scoffed at the Prima Games guide saying Mission was strong after all stealth was slow and boring... Little did I know.

  • @JJJBunney001
    @JJJBunney001 Рік тому +3

    Alek and Revan were both knights even they fell to the darkside, they both chose it. Even as sith, the only reason Malek was the apprentice was because Revan was stronger. He even tried to take the mantle of the master and that's how he got the mettle jaw

  • @chinny4954
    @chinny4954 Рік тому +2

    Ayyy I just started playing this again yesterday. Excited to watch this.

  • @nicholasgignac7065
    @nicholasgignac7065 Рік тому

    You’re upload prompted me to play the game for the first time before watching it.
    Followed that up with KOTOR 2. Completed two play through of it and I’m now back playing through the first.
    Absolutely fell in love with these games.

  • @stannisthemannis8694
    @stannisthemannis8694 11 місяців тому +3

    every time i watch something about starwars i always come out hearing that lucasarts is the best company in the world. they give so much creative freedom and always look after the people they work with

  • @MadnessHEROReverend
    @MadnessHEROReverend 11 місяців тому +5

    I always disagreed about the whole darkside points for killing Bendak. He is himself a murderer, and his bounty is a government contract. Bendak is more than willing to kill anyone who will step into the dueling ring with him. I find it akin to finding and getting rid of the Mandalorian crusaders on Dantooine.

    • @rakino4418
      @rakino4418 5 місяців тому +1

      I think the idea is you're participating in and profiting from bloodsport in the form of a deathmatch

    • @MadnessHEROReverend
      @MadnessHEROReverend 4 місяці тому

      @rakino4418 True, there should be an option to decline the Bounty Rewards

  • @ThisisKyle
    @ThisisKyle Рік тому +2

    When I beat Malik the first time I did it by running around the arena using throw lightsaber every time my force regenerated enough to use it.

  • @sagenod440
    @sagenod440 11 місяців тому +2

    Long time KOTOR fan here, recently started playing modded (on my second playthrough now). I love it and after my current KOTOR playthrough I’ll move on to modded TSL. On the matter of Taris, what keeps it fresh for me is difficult mode at level 2

    • @rakino4418
      @rakino4418 5 місяців тому

      Do you try to keep all possible jedi at low levels? Such as Carth?

  • @douglasgw1992
    @douglasgw1992 Рік тому +2

    if kotor 2 wouldve come out during the 360 era all that beautiful DLC

  • @scottvermillion5691
    @scottvermillion5691 Рік тому +3

    I've played 100s of games if not over a thousand and Kotor is easily in my top 10 it's an amazing game.

  • @RiriSion
    @RiriSion 5 місяців тому +1

    I love the way you think about the "good side" ending. This is precisely why I feel like the dark side ending is the most suited to our character ... If you think about it, even if you spend the whole game doing good and earning light points, the revelation of you being lied to by everyone you considered like the good guys should make you snap, and fall to the dark side again. Just after that you end up on THE sith planet, when you can discover everything there is to the dark side, go and fight Bastila who just conviniently for you joined the dark side, and then you get to kill your old apprentice, get revenge on the jedis, get the girl in the end and feel very good about it all. I actually really enjoyed that ending. The light side one is very much like you described it, leaving a bitter taste.
    I fully understand why this is the cannon ending, but it's not the one that felt the most "realistic" to me.

  • @krill6969
    @krill6969 4 місяці тому +1

    I know very little about Star Wars or much about theses type of games. But I still watch, great video.

  • @keatonchurchill4034
    @keatonchurchill4034 Рік тому +8

    Does Jolee knowing you were Revan from the beginning, recontextualize his choice to come with you? I feel like that wildly changes his motivations of joining you either lightside or dark side path

    • @DBArtsCreators
      @DBArtsCreators 5 місяців тому

      He does explain his motivations in his "farmer & the viper" story. He believes he is leading you away from the wrong path (perhaps his responsibility because he didn't try the first time you passed through Kashyyyk). He just wonders if you'll end up biting like the viper does when you eventually learn the truth, and if he can stop you before you take such a bite.

  • @Onethonone
    @Onethonone 8 місяців тому +3

    What you said about liking Star Wars before, but this making you a real fan resonates with me. KOTOR (1) is one of my top 3 games of all time, and will always have a special place in my heart. 2 is good as well, but 1 edges it out barely. Revan is too good.

  • @billyleho7839
    @billyleho7839 Рік тому +1

    Man Superrad you have no idea how long I've been waiting for someone to do a thorough retrospective of KOTOR. Thank you!!

    • @SuperRADLemon
      @SuperRADLemon  Рік тому

      Glad I could help!

    • @Miss_Trillium
      @Miss_Trillium Рік тому

      The salt factory did as well, but man do I love finding passionate smaller channels

  • @Madadader
    @Madadader Рік тому +2

    Imagine if at the very end after you save Bastilla the Jedi Council relegates it as "another test for yourself and Bastilla" that "went over well". The ultimate trolls.

    • @CrazyxEnigma
      @CrazyxEnigma 7 місяців тому

      I head canon that's how Zhar and Vandar looked at it. Not Vrook though he's a douche.

  • @asyjr113
    @asyjr113 11 місяців тому +3

    I can’t wait for the KOTOR remake, this is May 2023 BTW

  • @damightyshabba439
    @damightyshabba439 10 місяців тому +3

    Thanks SuperRAD. This prompted me to re-install KOTOR and have another bash at it. I completed it twice, but... hell, it's been years... time for some nostalga, eh? As a side note a few years ago I met a guy who would later become a very good friend. One of the things that made us friends was talking about KOTOR.... turns out, he had NO IDEA you could install crystals to enhance your light sabres.... I had to show him..... somehow he'd gotten a LONG way into the game without any "upgrades"!!!! Now, what I've never done is get past the tutorial of KOTOR II... so, whilst I watch this and re-play it, I'll be lining up a KOTOR II run as well... Can you import your original character across or not? I'm guessing no, if they are from different games studio's....

    • @SuperRADLemon
      @SuperRADLemon  10 місяців тому +1

      I don't believe so no, unfortunately

    • @CrazyxEnigma
      @CrazyxEnigma 7 місяців тому

      If you've already started Kotor 2 by now feel free to ignore this comment but you decide what happens in the first game through a dialogue with one of the characters you meet in the prologue which was quite clever for the time imo.

  • @EdgeOf1996
    @EdgeOf1996 Рік тому +1

    2022 and we're still getting long form in depth videos made about this game. I've seen so many at this point and still insta-click whenever I see one.

  • @JoeyAdawi
    @JoeyAdawi Рік тому +1

    Thank you. I check out a couple of your other videos, good luck!

  • @SkojSkull
    @SkojSkull Рік тому +3

    This is where the fun begins!

  • @TheFoxStyler
    @TheFoxStyler Рік тому +3

    imma watch the shit out of this i love longform retrospective about genious games

  • @Kalleosini
    @Kalleosini 3 місяці тому +1

    I like your critique of the ending.
    most people will say taris is too long, but I've never heard anyone say the apology to malak was weak or that ask that we completely gloss over the fact that you started the war, even if you lost your memory and helped end it. especially considering your memories are returning gradually throughout the game.

  • @mynameisNeo369
    @mynameisNeo369 6 місяців тому

    Youre right about the Jedi and the Sith. The light became as such to counter the corruption of the depths of darkness. But the force itself, is balance. Revan walked that line between light and dark like no other and thats why he's one of my favorite characters. Excellent retrospective! Cant wait to start the second one