The BIG Fable: The Lost Chapters Retrospective
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
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Research was possible thanks to the following:
RonHiler ► Guide gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pc/9267...
Fable Wiki ► fable.fandom.com/wiki/Main_Page
Developer Diaries ► www.ign.com/articles/2004/03/...
Timestamps:
Intro - 0:00
Development - 8:28
Opening Segment - 16:24
Guild of Heroes - 35:30
First Quest - 1:01:04
Bowerstone South - 1:18:22
Orchard Farm and Darkwood - 1:38:21
Hobbe Cave - 2:04:53
Oakvale - 2:13:51
Bandit Seeress - 2:22:52
Darkwood Bordello and More - 2:35:09
Find the Archaeologist - 2:50:02
White Balverine - 3:00:21
The Arena - 3:07:31
Rescue the Archaeologist - 3:22:51
Lady Grey - 3:29:37
Rescue Scarlet Robe - 3:40:43
Prison Escape - 3:49:24
The Hook Coast - 3:54:59
Original Finale - 3:58:43
The Lost Chapters - 4:07:18
Conclusion - 4:29:21 - Ігри
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HERO! your health is low. you have any potions? or food?
Loving this so far! Just paused to remind that OG Xbox didn't have achievements. The doll was basically a classic badge-of-honor achievement though, ala getting all the korok seeds or beating superbosses in Final Fantasy
Can someone like or reply to me I think im shadowbanned
OH and both times your family "unlock" your power, it's just a big XP boost
Loving the vid so far, but I did want to mention that the original xbox didn't have achievements or gamerscore, so the useless doll sidequest was just useless. Lol
Jesus a UA-camr who semi-consistently pumps out hours long video essays on my favourite video games??? My new fav channel :)
Jesus has a UA-cam channel?
Yeah it's mine
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One thing I remember really liking about marrying Lady Grey, if you start giving her gifts she'll give you sarcastic responses, like "Oh. Wonderful. Thank you, dear husband." But if you max her affection (or just keep giving her a certain number of gifts, I don't remember) her responses will start to get more and more genuine until it sounds like she's actually surprised at how she's genuinely fallen in love with you.
black roses yea?
Fun fact about the old burping beggar outside the Guild: in a cut note that she sent to Brom, that has been since revealed to be canon by series co-creator Dene Carter, it is heavily implied that begger is Scarlet Robe's brother + the Hero of Oakvale's uncle. Here's the note for anyone curious:
"Dearest husband, I hope that you are well. I shall be returning soon, as my work here is done. I thought I should send you this money so as to keep it safe. When I get back, I will take it to my brother, poor wreck that he has become. What harsh luck he has had ? crippled by a mere wasp sting! I hope this gift eases his troubles; he should no longer need to mope around that Lookout Point, pleading for money from the very Heroes he once fought alongside! Send my love to the children. With love, S."
I think it's really awesome how big Peter was thinking in terms of sheer scope. But in hindsight, it seems very obvious that the technology simply wasn't there for a lot of the things he mentions.
Unfortunately yeah, like he dreamed big and they tried to deliver but with some of the things he said it just wasn't possible at the time
@@luckyassassin1 Always hopeful for community mods to implement or even create cut content!
@@ThommyofThenn the community shouldn't have to make up for a developers short comings, that's how you get a company like Bethesda purposely not adding things and saying in their making of video that they didn't add it because thr modders would anyway
@@HankThrillPlays it's been stated by todd Howard and other devs in the making of documentary on Skyrim.
When your sister and mother “unlock your hidden potential” it gives you a big exp boost each time.
Oh is that what happens?! I never knew!
@@willthethrill9238 Yeah it comes int he form of tens of thousands of general green exp.
I remember playing The Lost Chapters after the original release finding out that one of the best weapons in that version of the game wasn't the legendary Sword of Aeons you could sacrifice your sister for, but the Solus Sword you can buy in a goddamn gift shop in Bowerstone. I was... baffled.
They crazy nerfed the Sword of Aeons in lost chapters. In base game it had a base damage of 740ish, in lost chapters it was like 250
I love British lore, such a fantastical fictional land. Imagine if a place like the UK existed IRL. 25:04
I have no clue why but the cold open into "I love Fable" was super funny to me
I wish I was able to put even half as much effort into my studies as you do in these retrospectives lol.
Awesome vid as always 🙏
So happy to see someone do a video like this on the original version of the game instead of Anniversary.
Anniversary is borderline unplayable for me they fcked the dark will user outfit and i cant stand it
Man I loved Fable when I was a kid!, it was the first time I did multiple different playthroughs for each alignment, different builds, etc. I think I was also around 12 when I first played it, and always wanted to play the lost chapters but couldn't afford it.
So I'll have to experience the content vicariously through this video, thanks a bunch for this!
Holy freaking HOOT, this guys retrospectives are super rad.
I am pogged out of my gourd for this content. Getting me through the long days of grad school superRAD!
Ace your classes and he’ll have to rebrand to SuperGrad
Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.
the man, the myth, the legend
I was 22 when this game came out. Didn’t know anything about it, I was a Luddite and didn’t get Game informer. I will always associate it with what was happening when I first played it. My band was recording in a mansion called Robert Lang studios in Seattle Washington that was built by buried treasure. With a phenomenal famous producer who recorded Blonde Redhead and Hanson. We were there every day for 3 months. Waking to to the ocean, recording in a state of the art studio. There were pinball machines and a big screen tv with an Xbox. Our drummer bought this game and it is forever tied with that magical time. I don’t know if I’ve ever played another game that felt this magical, and I know a lot of it has to do with our circumstances. But it was so special to all of us. Never had played a game like this, and never since have I played a game that filled me with such a sense of wonder and joy.
Oh fuck yes, I have something to watch later after my stream, good shit man. I can't wait. I love Fable so much.
I really enjoyed OG Fable. And Peter, despite everything, I just can't hate like I can so easily some other developers. Even as a teenager back in the Black & White days, I always felt like this, that his promises weren't lies, but dreams.
I loved seeing my character after what felt like a lifetime of fighting evil, look grizzled and wizened in his years. Covered in scars and wielding the best weapons in the land. Striding around with this vicarious imbued confidence that I've rarely felt with any RPG.
The game kind of had this odd bitterwseet feel that still lingers in memory 10+ years on.
Wow you're the first person I found that even knows about black & white. I really loved black and white 2 and the expansion battle of the gods where you literally went up against an evil Aztec god
Great retrospective! I just wanna mention one thing. The two parts of the game where your mother and sister unlock power in your bloodline. Its a reward of i think 10k general experience both times. You might not notice it because the pop-up is so small and goes away quickly.
Thanks!
In regards to boasting, my brother and I used it all the time as kids. Speedrunners we were not, but my brother constantly took it upon himself to speed run the game as fast as possible or do challenge runs, sometimes self-imposed.
- Fist only runs
- Stick only runs
- Naked runs
- No-hit runs
- Sub-X amount of time runs
- etc, etc..
Point is, we were doing challenges anyways, we might as well get rewarded for it.
Fable was one of our favorite games as children and we spent an endless amount of time playing it. Our family didn't have a lot of money. Our games and og Xboxs were gifted to us by a family friend well into the 360/PS3 era of gaming. We still had dial-up at the point where high-speed was easily accessible to most families. Suffice to say, we made do with the games we had. Luckily, og XBox had a pretty kickass library. My personal favorite, to this day, is Jet Set Radio Future, but Fable is a very close second along with Soul Calibur 2, Star Wars Battlefront 1 and 2, Halo, and Morrowind
I appreciate how you always seem to cover games I have fond memories of. I must’ve played through the original fable 6 times or so. Then 2 more times for lost chapters.
"Making our way downtown" :D great Easter-egg man!
I fucking love Fable 2, but it is *criminally* short.
you cant fool me, you were about to fail that card matching game
Hell Yeah! Seeing another SuperRAD Retrospective to another huuge game of my childhood in my UA-cam feed, brought so much joy !
Love your super lenghty retrospective content! Keep it up my man! :D Thanks so so much for Fable! :D
Really, really enjoyed this retrospective! Definitely gonna check it out! Great video, Rad!
I actually like that the Guild works for both sides of the scale. Mainly because it gives the word hero a different meaning in that world. And it helps the Guild know who is willing to do what.
It also explains why the guild doesn't care or disown you when you do evil things.
Thank you for always uploading on the perfect day for me to get through these mostly uninterrupted, it really helps me focus 🎉❤
7:15 It's not a diamond in the rough, It's a rough diamond.
3:06 Okay this is… utterly unrelated to the video but-Victor Lucas always did this little bounce when he intro segments for electric playground and even tho it was ages ago that I watched G4 as a kid I still remember noticing how often he did it. So seeing him do it at this moment in the video fired some long-dormant neurons lmao.
This game's disk got stuck in my original Xbox when I was younger and for a solid four or five months, Fable: The Lost Chapters was the only game I could play. While I was still really happy to finally play a different game once my mom pried off the small plastic front of the disk drive, I don't think there was any other game out at the time that I could've played for that long. Pure good runs, pure evil runs, mixed morality runs, runs where I collected everything, runs where I did every single side quest... I was thankful it was Fable and not some other game that was in the Xbox when the disk drive got stuck. I'm glad they remastered it with Anniversary and I hope someday they might consider porting Fable 2 to PC and putting Fable 3 back on Steam so the rest of the series doesn't suffer a console-exclusive death. I'd love to see retrospectives like this on 2 and 3 as well if you have the inclination! Thank you for your time and effort!
Thanks for your effort and time, I value it a lot in my day to day life and you bring me a lot of joy.
In fable 2, owning land affected your morality based on the prices you set. If you raised rent or business prices, it made you morally corrupt, but you could also make rent completely free, which the game counts as a morally pure act. Corrupt acts as a land lord would actually hurt the region's economy, while pure acts improve the economy.
Hell yeah
God damn, super rad always putting out the best videos on the best games. So happy I found you. I listen to your videos while working in my pharmacy and it’s really helpful with 10 hour days. Thank you ^^
No exaggeration this video cured my midnight depression I watched the whole video in one sitting. 10/10 👏 👏
You absolutely can spam jump up every mountain in Skyrim you just have to be patient and extremely persistent
I remember playing Fable on the original xbox for the first time, good times
Wish i came by this channel sooner
Perfect another video to play on repeat for a whole month as I fall asleep.
Absolutely bang on video here chap!
I have been playing and loving this game for 2 decades. And I am only just now finding out you can knock the boulders back at trolls.
I can-not believe I never tried that in the past.
if youre fast enough you can save the third trader and get some lore about a balverine cure. I often play a will build so the frying pan is a must since it can allow for 7 mana enhancement on you at once.
Another superRAD video to watch over 5 days of my work week? LETS GOOOOOOO
First off excellent video as always, im having a great time just sitting here watching while doing other stuff.
second- to explain why the heroes guild is so mercenary , apparently there was a spin off novel that explained this. Tldr; the heroes guild under nostro used to only take on good aligned contracts but weaver [the current guildmaster in fable 1] felt like this was a bad idea. He seemed to think that aspirants should have the freedom to choose their own paths rather than being encouraged to be good guys.
So naturally he did the most sane and logical thing and led a bloody civil war that wiped out the previous heroes guild. Really makes how easy he goes down in an evil playthrough that much more comedic.
That's so funny lmao
I love that he decides that apprentices should be allowed to choose their own path and (understandably) panics when his time comes at the hands of one of said apprentices.
i keep coming back to this video ans your oblivion one to rewatch. both are games that hold so much nostalgia and enjoyment for me, and i really love your analyses and perspective on both. plus your brand of humor just makes you a joy to listen to.❤
They did a better job with the marriage system in Fable 2, even mentioning it towards the end of the game (if you have a wife and child the villain will mention how he killed them) and your child even plays a role in a side quest where you rescue them from a hobbe cave. Its still not really that deep of an addition and Fable 3 made the process of it more tedious without any interesting integrations (instead replacing it with a much more tame radiant system of giving gifts.) which makes it feel even weaker.
Fable is the first game I played where it makes you feel like your choice matters. Over time it doesn't.. But overall the promise was sure there at the beginning.
thank you for making this great content as always
I think one of the big problems with Petters PR before Fable one was that he was JUST a publisher. I remember a lot of discussions basicly playing out as, "OMG look at what Fable is going to have!" 'I dont know, that sounds like marketing BS, an acorn growing into a tree? How would they code that? Why waste the energy?" "Yeah, but he isn't even a dev, he owns the company, he must know!"
It never seemed like a passionate dev talking about his art, it SOUNDED like a businessman promising a product, cause it was.
Thing is many of his fibs were told before release but AFTER the games were shipped to stores. The "Gone Gold" period. So yes he was knowingly lying.
Here to leave a comment wishing positive vibes unto you and 1 like, well deserved for making me say out loud, ah shit cool superRad made a Fable Retrospective!
Another beautiful video ❤
Excellent video!
Liked the video for that terrible Jack of all Blades pun. Well played lol
Well blade
@@SuperRADLemon I deserve that one...🤣
Fantastic video. Can't wait for your video on Fable 2, if you ever make it!
ahh, the game that made me trade with my brother so he could have my ps2 and I could have his xbox. I also have 'your health is low' as my text tone.
also, not a correction so much as a thing you can miss:
in the prologue, when guarding the barrels you can actually get both rewards if you're fast enough.
if you can break the barrels and then get back to the guarding spot before the man comes back, he won't know they were broken by you. so you can pick up the gold inside the barrels, AND get the reward from dad!
It’s nice to see people still talk about this game and make content on it.
Great video! Thanks for making it! I loved Fable.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hugeeee. Such an integral part of my gaming childhood.
First time ever watching a 4.5 hour youtube video and all i can think of is wow... wow... wow this could be 7 hours and id still watch.
Lol. Fable is my favorite game. I loved this whole video. Earned a like and sub for the effort.
*salute*
Because my job has me driving for HOURS AND HOURS on end this is a perfect channel for me I love that I discovered retrospectives and I love this channel for them! ❤🎉
I'm sure someone else has said it, but the "Heroes" of the "Heroes'" Guild are of the ancient use of the word. They're faster & stronger than regular humans. A Hero is a Hero because they're Great &/or do Great deeds. Like Alexander the Great, regardless of morality or whether the deeds are morally black or white. Because "great" & "greatness" doesn't always mean "good". This is what Fable's Heroes are. You can substitute "Hero" with "Demigod".
There's also in game lore that Weaver (the Guildmaster) fought with other Heroes in the Guild for the freedom for Heroes to choose which kinds of quests they get to take.
Glad someone else remembers that Peter Molyneux was the _Sweet Little Lies_ game director before Todd's ascendency.
Whisper shows up in the waiting area if you take a break from the arena fighting. I remember my first playthrough I went back in every time to hear new lines.
Armored core 6 needs to be played through 3 times to get the full story and each playthrough has new missions or mission choices that can be made, it's a very interesting game that's very action heavy, but you can make basically every form of mech you can make, viable. Even a no weapon fists only mech is actually viable... It's crazy I love the game.
Thanks so much for this video dude. You obviously put so much work into your scripts. You describe plot and mechanics, but best of all you actually analyze the games you review with your own takes and views. It's really refreshing to see a creator whose "retrospective" isn't just a lazy summary of the story, coupled with some unoriginal internet opinions. You're in a camp with only a small handful of genuinely great youtube game reviewers, and defo deserve far more subs than you have!
I've genuinely loved and enjoyed this game, despite any flaws. I played it on my OG Xbox and spent almost as much time on it as Halo 1 and Halo 2. This game just felt.. Good. I loved the "weird" humor (as a child), loved the different weapons and how you felt like you had freedom in how you played, and I also loved how the morality made the NPCs view you. Seeing everyone flirty or terrified was so mind-blowing to me. Damn, now I wanna play the game again-
another banger Mr.RAD, what a great way to start my morning
What the fuck?
You can hit the boulders back to the trolls?
I’ve played this game back to front dozens of times, bought the Anniversary Edition then beat it a bunch more and I never ever, even by accident knew you could do that.
I loved this, I hope one day you'll do fable 2, it always felt more like what I heard Peter promised but I just knew it was the one that held the most special place in my heart
Thank you for this 🙏
I sat though 12 hours of oblivion. I can spare 4 hours.
Loved this game as a kid a definitely skipped (or missed) alot of its content due to my age. Great review vid, love a 4 hour retrospective. You mention hero save vs world save, I remember the only time I exploited this system was during the archeologist quest in Witchwood. You can get the age reduction at the temple of avo, hero save, exit, and then do it all over again later if you have the cash. Good stuff 👍
Thank you for the video!
My body is ready
Great job SuperRAD, like your expositions.....
thank you for your videossss 🌺
"It may not be the jack of all blades", I see what you did there😉.
coming back after finishing to comment some more: i always found thunder's thing about the main character to be REALLY weird. like he's an adult at least while the mc is a child, and yet he decides he's going to beef with someone half his age?
i also always felt bad for whisper. we dont really know why she and thunder left their home, but im sure she must have felt isolated. and her own brother is little comfort when he treats her as if she isnt good enough- she'd already have the pressure of trying to make a good impression of her own people to the people of albion and the guild, and her brother is adding to it with familial disappointment. i understand why she goes back to her homeland in the end, but i do wish that we got to actually SEE her become a person that SHE wanted to be. i feel like she should have been able to show up at the end of the main game, or return for tlc to help you fight jack.
I see a lot of youtubers struggle to use stealth in the bandit camp not realizing you can use a moonfish to turn the time to night and get a massive anti detection bonus. You also get a sneak bonus for wearing the assassin gear (it's a hidden effect)
but yeah it's a lot easier to sneak past them at night than it is during the daytime even though daytime is the default when you enter.
Theresa’s and mom’s green power ups just give you a lot of general experience is all
Saw this right when I started replaying it on the original Xbox, amazing timing
1:46:00,
Honestly, one of the most underrated and least-explored mechanics in the game. Not too long ago, I completed the entire game by taking all the boasts for each quest (and even created a one-hour-long video explaining how to do it). This was a truly unique experience.
While some boasts combinations may be easy, certain quests are incredibly challenging. However, almost all quests have clever ways to approach an "All-Boasting" strategy that you wouldn't normally think of when completing the quests conventionally.
For me, it's more like a personal challenge, and I've learned a lot from discovering non-trivial ways to complete the quests, and even completing additional challenges above it, like not using bodyguards or not even punching an enemy once etc.
The unfortunate part is that there are two bugged boasts that are impossible to complete, even when following their instructions. Additionally, for one of the Bandit Spy quest combinations, you have to do too much for it to be possible. So, while one of the boasts combinations(5/7) is feasible, I consider the evil-version (6/7) of the quest the only one that can't be completed with all boasts without using glitches.
In short, boasts are good when you have to do All of them.
And it's possible, but not so easy, being an epic personal challenge that almost no one probably did.
High quality video essays? Count me in!
One of the things I appreciate to this day is the ability to buy all the town homes in the sequels and... just not rent them. Fewer game models to load. Less joke dialogue to hear. As I gained fame and thus more attention in the sequels, I became infected with a quiet malice toward them. I hated their campy dialogue, which only further reinforced the precious scarcity of moments when the sequels take themselves seriously, in item descriptions, in... anything... they would wander in front of me while I played a minigame, and just wouldn't leave me the hell alone in general. I became a digital sociopath.
I love fable the lost chapters i replay it pretty much at least once a year. I actually like how short it is i think it makes it more replayable to me. I like to even out my good and bad choices to stay neutral and I max out my attractiveness and scariness so the npcs never know if they want to clap for me or run away screaming 😂
Bro at 1:18:30 the way he said his sentence tickled my brain a bit
incredible as ever
For me, the earliest legendary weapon I've always b-lined for is the Willow's Pickaxe, since you can just chow down on crunchy chicks in front of the door to get it. It's not the best in terms of damage, but it's miles beyond the obsidian gear we have access to.
Gonna watch this in work tomorrow
I also played fable without word of its promises and it was amazing
3:01:58 this siren sounds a lot like the soundtrack from Into the Spiderverse that plays when prowler is on screen
I don't know if anyone has ever brought this up. But the fable series version of the word hero is taking its meaning from a older definition of the word. I think it was ancient greek but I could be wrong. Anyways the definition was a person who did great things. Think that scene in harry potter where the wand guy told harry about voldimort. He did great things terrible but great. In that old definition of hero Voldimort would be a hero.
They clarify the guild doing this shit later in the series apparently. I guess weaver was just a dumbass who wanted to let heroes be mercenaries and pick and choose good and evil tasks, but this later bit him in the ass
Man i love fables soundtrack, its so good.
HELL YES
Another great video man, I really appreciate the work you put in ^^
I've also gotta hard agree about games letting you find legendary gear earlier if you put in the work. Dragon Age Origins let's me get rare endgame equipment before I'm halfway through the game and it feels fantastic.
"Never met a good landlord." Guess you've lived in a lot of big cities.
I love retrospective the longer the better to me
I wonder if you feel the same about Cloud cross dressing in FF7 to achieve a similar goal.
I think the way they play it with cloud is a very similar situation yeah, at least in the original
I honestly hope that players remember people like Molyneux and Howard going forward. There's such a desperate need amongst some gamers to forgive the sins of these big names just because they make their favourite games. These people aren't your friends - they're business people and their goal is to make money. Your enjoyment is supplementary.
Other than asking for a KoA video.
I believe the "power" that gets unlocked in our character is general experience that is given. It's got the same green tint and absorbs into the body the same.
The arena quest can make any run through the game pointless with the hero save system. Get to the scorpion fight hero save reload and re-run the system as much as you want. I think it was fixed in anniversary but I'm not 100% sure.
You talked about making the game easy but with how wuick you can get to skorms temple the whole game can be run with that bow. The system for that has also been 2 sacrifices right at midnight. Using the twinblade camp merc and oakvale merc.
Fable 1 was by far my favorite and had the most brought to the table I feel