In-Depth 2022 Off-Road Shootout: 2022 Beta 200 RR
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- Опубліковано 29 бер 2022
- We just wrapped up our 2022 Two-Stroke Off-Road Shootout and in doing so we wanted to dive deep into the pros and cons of each bike individually. Take a listen as we discuss the 2022 #twostroke BETA 200 RR.
Make sure to check out our short and sweet video where we briefly cover how all five bikes tested over multiple days of riding, as well as these bike-specific videos. Make sure to keep an eye out as we release the rest of the line-up as the week goes on.
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I bought the 200RR because of this video. And just wanted to revisit the video to say it is hands down my favorite bike I’ve ever had, and I’ve been fortunate enough to have a decent variety of bikes over the years. Their review is pretty spot on, and I can even to a point agree with the negative review guy here, the seat is BRUTAL lol. But to be fair it’s all betas, and nothing a new seat can’t fix. It does have a bit of a wide turning radius for super slow stuff, but I’ve never thought too much of it. Power is great, it’s light, and probably the best weekend warrior bike I can think of, yet still can be super competitive. The single issue I’ve had with it, is that when I got it I could NOT get it to run right. Bogged down in first and at that point I was thinking “oh man I made a huge mistake”. I changed the jetting multiple times and still ran terrible. As it turns out, there must have been a mistake at the factory and it had the main jet from the 300 by mistake, and to be fair the way the part numbers were written I can see how it was mistaken. But once that was replaced (by the exceptional customer service I got) I couldn’t be happier. I also have to point out that the length they went to to dig in and find what ended up being such a simple fix really gave me confidence in the brand. And lastly, I’ve had the bike since June, I’ve ridden it in 3 states, and absolutely abuse it trying things I never thought I would. And I can say that these things are built like tanks. If y’all can, ride one, and then buy it and have as much fun as I have.
That's great feedback. Thank you. I'm so in between the 200rr and xtrainer, leaning towards 200rr for versatility and better suspension. But the size of xtrainer and super linear powerband is also appealing.
Not only is it a great bike from a mechanical and riding perspective, but Beta has had some of the best looking bikes over the past couple of years.
I love my 200 beta. I’m a 65-year-old man that is vertically challenged 5 foot three 150 pounds. I had it lowered from beta 2 inches and changed the seat and now I am having so much fun.
65, sweet, I'm 56 and getting back into riding after I foolishly convincing myself I would be happy 4wheeling cause I got married, well I'm single again and building the bike in the post above yours. I'm a stunted runt too, so I got a swingarm from a 2010 yz250f, the knuckle pivot doesn't go through the swingarm like the older bikes it goes underneath and lowers the rear by about an inch, I'm also going to run a yz125 spring to soften it up a bit. The 2008 yz450f has a good amount of seat foam so when I get the bike going I can decide whether to cut the seat or get a lowering link. I'd love to get a beta 200, but cash reserves dictate that not possible, but I have this bike and it will be a one of a kind.
vertically challenged😂😂😂 that's a good one
How you feel with it lowered ? Did you also get the low seat ? I am 5’3” super short and I am looking at this bike ! How do your feet touch ?
@@jracer815 hi John. If I was just riding Desert high speed single track or Motocross I would not have lowered it. So with that said it still handles great. Washboard chop is the only problem. I can still hit whoops just fine. Seat concepts low seat makes a huge difference in comfort and helps get a foot down. Let’s face it we’re short and we have to deal with it. Where are you located at and what kind of riding are you going to do?
You would love the xtrainer
Yes we need more options of bikes with 200cc engines
Nice to see some Beta love from Vital. There is also a Race Edition 200 without oil injection and with KYB forks and different graphics. The 125/200 Beta's have a 15% smaller frame than the 250/300 and that may explain why Hayes felt cramped. 6 month warranty and 214 lbs and 36.6 seat height are worth mentioning also.
Sounds like perfection to me! Kyb is awesome but the tpi on this particular bike doesn't seem too bad.
@@bradmiller8361 No TPI, Keihin carb and oil injection.
Today my brother and I finished rebuilding his kdx, we put on kyb forks off a 2005 yz450 and the rear brakes, including the lever, hooray for tap and die. I'm in the process of putting a 1999 Yamaha dt230 motor into a 2008 yz450, most of you probably haven't heard of it, it's basically a wr200 that's been stroked to 224cc, the same motor that's in the Gpx 250 tse. It has a 6 spd wide ratio box, electric start, oil injection, balanced motor, and electric traction control, it's 23yrs old! I'm putting in a wr200 piston and gold series pipe and a 36mm Keihin pwk carb on it, I'm expecting good things from this frankenbike.
Went from a 2021 yz125x to this bike and love it. Easy to ride...way more grunt down low and feels super light.
I have a 06 ktm 200 xc. Got it as my first bike and honestly it’s the perfect size engine. I don’t feel like I need more. And it has enough low end torque to do what I want. I’m 240lbs and absolutely love it. More brands should look into 200’s
Preach the good word of the 200
I had an 06 200 xcw it was one of the best off road bikes I ever had. Im 150 lb though.
@@The2006200 I’ve had it for 6 years now and I’ve toyed with the idea of moving up to a 250. After trying a new yz250x I liked it but not enough to justify getting rid of the 200. If I do get a new (used) bike sometime it will probably be a newer ktm 200
@@bradleymacklin7896 I am riding a tpi 250 xcw 2018 now. its a great bike if you ride where there is a lot of big hill climbs or deep sand. otherwise the 200 is better for just about everything else. I am going to sell it soon though and get something with a semi close ratio tans. The xcw has some gaps in the trans that are noticeable on tight single track.
@@The2006200 I wish I had more sand where I live, other than sand/gravel pits it’s nothing but hard rock and deep forest here at the northern point of Lake Superior.
I’m also glad I have the xc and not the xcw for a shorter ratio tranny. It’s the perfect bike for my area.
I have a Beta 300 and rode all the new bikes at a demo day. The new 300 was no better than mine but I fell in love with the 200 so I ordered a race edition and finally got it. Yes the suspension needs to be softened, specifically the midvalve needs more float to make it initially plush .7 was the sweet spot for me with a Gold Valve in KYB's, and the high speed in the shock needs to be softened. I found its almost to light to run a 90/100 up front and does much better with a 80/100 in softer conditions. I went with a SmartCarb and it gave it more off idle grunt and tripled the mileage. Flawless at altitude also. I throurally love the bike but my only complaint it they stepped on their schwanker with the gearing, 5th and 6th are to short if you ride in the desert. For most tight enduro stuff it's perfect, but hit a road where you need to connect trails and you have to be patient. The more I ride it, the more I love it. I hope this helps someone.
Thanks man! That helped a lot. I’ve decided the Beta 200 is the bike for me. I’m coming off a 350EXCF & 790R. I’ve always liked the bikes in the middle & now that I’m going back to 2t, this 200 seems to fit the bill perfect. My only hang up is the standard model or the Race edition… 🤔 I’ve heard that the standard model suspension is super plush out of the box & the power is the same. Just tam & comfy. The Race edition is stiffer & more aggressive but I do like that it’s KYB & you get some cool bling. Why did you go w/ the race edition over the standard? I race HS occasionally but mainly ride single track. I’m a B level rider that’s ridden all my life. 5’10” @ 210# (lean).
@@Bt26x did you get the RR or RR race edition? Thoughts
I'm 155lbs w/o gear 50+A Harescrambles. I'm leaning towards the 23 Race Edition but will still mod the suspension
Beta makes amazing machines!
I know this video is eight months old but off road riding never gets old. Regarding the Beta steering lock. There are now several UA-cam videos on how to fix that. Just picked up my new Beta 300RR and can’t wait for spring. Great video! Cheers, from North Eastern Ontario Canadian.
something so beautiful about that bike!
BETA 200 RR Must modify the turning radius, change up to Seat Concepts saddle, and soften up suspension if over 200 lbs 🏁
2022 KYB forks are better
I m a really happy owner. Whith a Kyb fork and revalved rear shock. Rental 999
15 sprocket
ported cilinder and more compressed head.
Its now the favorit of my garage.
I'm 235lbs at low bodyfat, and I LOVED this bike, so I have no clue why the last guy didn't gel...but everyone likes different things. I dislike the frames on the KTMs and sold my 2020 Husqvarna TPI 2 stroke before the year was up...and it was a great bike (just wanted to get more power for my big arse), ...I just gel with stiffer chassis better! My TM Racing EN300ES 2 stroke and Honda CRF450R 4 stroke (that's being built as an RX race bike at XPR) are the best I've ever felt on a motorcycle! So everyone surely is different, and the last dude has thrown down some skill in other vids before - so I'm certainly not trying to throw shade.
But this Beta 200 really is the cream of the crop! I LOVED that machine when trying to figure out what bike to get when I bought my TM Racing machine in 2020. Very cool vid, Vital! 💪Always my favorite channel, and you NEVER disappoint! ❤💕
I have gone from 500, 450, to 350 and found that is the best 4t for single track.
It would be cool to see a non-stroke specific "mid class" shoot out. 150 2t, 200 2t, 300 4t, 350 4t. See where the compromises fall and what bike size is the best for all around enduro riding (not just flat woods, can a small bore hill climb?). I think a lot of us single track enduro riders are interested in the small bore benefits and avoiding being over biked.
I'd like to see if the 200 could go everywhere my 350 can (sandy hill shoots are common in Nevada single track) . If so, the light weight benefits of a smaller bore 2 stroke could dish out a lot of dividends!
I went from a 2004 xr400r to a 23 beta 200rr standard edition and I absolutely love it !! I weigh 180 and it rips with me on it , I also have the privilege to ride a 2020 beta 300rr other than a little more lowend grunt there's not much difference !! Best purchase ever .
I've had 3 KDX's and now on a yz250x. If I could swing it. This would be my woods bike and grab a 450f for the track and desert/anything really open.
There used to be a 200cc class at several offroad series but when ktm stopped making one and went with the 150cc bike that class disappeared. It's still legal in the 250 and open classes aside from the age group classes.
Still love my beta!
Seat Concepts old man seat is awesome..lol
The guy that didn’t love it would love the xtrainer
Thanks for the video! Where is the beautiful landscape in the video?
Like sweet bike
Open off-road shootout (300 TS and 350/450f) since they all have to compete against each other. Do the same with the 250s (2 & 4 stroke) since they also have to compete against each other as well.
I wanted to add something else. Sometimes the smaller bikes are faster than their bigger bore cousins. It depends on the terrain and the rider. Do not forget that Shane Watts raced the KTM 200's to wins in GNCC, & enduro events against other top pro's on bigger bikes and won!!
I have a 2016 KTM200 XC-W and would really like to know how the Beta compares to that? Is it worth getting one? I have tried 250's and 300's but am just much more comfortable on the 200 especially in technical hard enduro stuff. For one it has more ground clearance and it just feels much more nimble in tight stuff, and even though it apparently only weighs +- 5kg less than a 300 somehow it just seems way easier to manhandle if you get stuck on a steep rocky hill which makes me more likely to attempt those types of hill climbs. In fast sections it screams like a 125 which triggers my adrenaline. I have ridden the 2021 Husky 150 TPI and that bike just feels anemic, even on top.
I doubt you could get a better bike than your 200 .
I own one and as much as I do like it overall, I have to agree with the last guy. It just doesn't handle well for me. My 2020 crf250rx seems to handle much better even in slow technical east coast woods.
Even though thte RX is quite stiff for a Honda, it's funny how the japanese mx bikes have often worked better offroad than many of the boutiques that were designed specifically for offroad. Putting the closed chamber fork on the Beta's really highlights their chassis issues. Definitely appreciate those final comments as well.
@@Superdisco199 I enjoy the Betas power characteristics and how light it feels, but where I ride is very rutted and the Beta will not stay in ruts or go where i want it to very well compared to the Honda. Front end is very twitchy. I will say I've had similar handling issues with a couple KTMs I've owned. I must just gel better with the Japanese chassis design.
I am a cheap old man and didn't think there was a better bike than my old trusty ktm 300xc. Handled good, tons of power, never let me down. So in 2020 it was time to replace it.. I finally decided on the 2021 200rr. Very tough decision, And after the 1st few rides I thought I f'd up. You have to actually ride this bike, you cant just put it in 3rd gear and go any where. You have to actually use the clutch, use the throttle. gear selection and body position is so important. This bike is so damn fun. It will do everything the 300's do, but its light and nimble. My next purchase is a no brainer, almost.. 200 rr, or race edition.
Hey guys , I’m 58 and the bug hasn’t left yet , I’m gonna get another bike …really like this bike …no pre mix , electric start … but I’m not into riding in the bush , all I do is look for something to jump …motocross, jumps , tracks is me ….thinking of turning it into a motocross bike ….well actually that’s exactly what I would do …. Any advice on doing that would be appreciated…..love ya words guys , all the best from Australia….🍻
That would take a lot of work...it be much easier to start with a different platform.
I thought I wanted one of these, but I rode one at my local dealer's Beta Demo day just last weekend. It was super wet and muddy and cold so not ideal riding conditions (Western PA) But sadly, I wasn't impressed. It just didn't have enough low end power to get up short and muddy hill climbs. Maybe the tires weren't ideal for the conditions and maybe the gearing could have been better, but I needed to be in 1st gear alot. It was a pretty tight loop but I was hoping to be able to lug a little better in second. I did love the light feel and handling. I'm 5'8" 165 without gear so on paper it seemed like an ideal fit for me. If anybody has any experience in Northeast conditions with this bike, I would love to hear it. Thanks!
I have a 200rr and i live by 7 springs resort in western PA plenty of wet and muddy conditions and this bike with a dunlop geomax at81ex on the rear will go anywhere im only 140 lbs
The handlebars have 6 different positions. The suspension is very plush. The front tire not the best stock tire. Shootout with the 300cc bikes.
I got a 2009 ktm 200
Ktm 300. Mxc
The grey graphic hanging of the plastic @ 8:15 🤢
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