Very appropriate, yes... as applied to Hitchens, who bemoaned the loss of a bit of skin and supported the slaughter of many thousands in Iraq. Yes, let's talk about expiation, Christopher.
@@bigshmooz610 Torturing and mutilating babies is an evil act. Hitchens never did that. As far as I know he didn't torture or mutilate anyone. Anyone who believes that their race (or group) is chosen by God is a racist. And anyone who defends genocides committed by their race/group is a very serious racist.
@@bigshmooz610 Torturing and mutilating babies is an evil act. Hitchens never did that. As far as I know he didn't torture or mutilate anyone. Anyone who believes that their race (or group) is chosen by God is a racist. And anyone who defends genocides committed by their race/group is a very serious racist.
@@endofscene, circumcision is not torturing nor mutilating babies. The evil act is on those who try to stop Jews from circumcising their baby boys. Hitchens did that. Hitchens is a murderer. Facts won't change just because you deem them to be racist. Israel was in fact chosen by God as His special people. And the only types of genocide that is defended by Israel are the type known as self defense. Israel was never commanded to indiscriminately kill anybody and no Torah abiding Jew defends indiscriminate killing of people.
Christopher Hitchens gave the perfect response to the rabbi's anecdote. Just because you know someone who has gone through the mutilation and survived or done the mutilation yourself doesn't justify the thousands of children who die as a direct result of it in the US alone, as well as the many thousands more in other areas of the world.
@@srbaruchi, which means tens of thousands were murdered in vain just within the past decade. Then there's the torture of children aspect … The inner side a neonate male's foreskin is fused to the glans with tissue called synechia①. Before being able to cut off anything, the quack, they call doctor or mohel or whatever, has to probe the mucus skin from the glans② (can you imagine the pain?). ①Synechia is the same type of tissue, that fuses your nails to your fingers and toes. ②Mucuosa is the same type of skin, which covers inner eyelids and inside of mouth. Children don't have sex, so it's not relevant for neither girls, nor boys to be involuntarily subjected to preemptive, *irreversible* cosmetic genital reduction surgery without urgent medical indication. Adults can make their own choices about their own bodies, when they come of age. Her body, her rights - His body, his rights. Contrary to popular believe and aap lies, there are more complications in neonatal circumcision, than in those of adults. More than a hundred neonates actually die each year in US hospitals from this malpractice alone. And why are Hiv rates higher in MGM US, than in intact Europe? Why have been no increase in Australian rates, when they stopped slicing? Why same pattern for penile cancer and UTI's? Lemme answer - cuz Murican doctors/ObGyns/paediatricians③ lie! There are no benefits to arbitrary amputation of any bodypart without *explicit medical indication,* which in practice means never. UTI's with both boys and girls are easily treated with antibiotics. ③Medical personnel, which encourage parents to prematurely retract the pubic prepuce of boys, who are kept intact, are still commonly encountered. Once prematurely retracted, infection occurs and they once again make a case for foreskin amputation, which parents at that point will have a very hard time resistanting due to the inflicted complications, because they are not told, that antibiotics is also an option. Myths of hygiene and penile diseases are still perpetuated in these areas.
@@OldTeaMate I agree with you, "Mate," but your math is way off. An average of 100 deaths per year x 10 years (a decade) = 1,000. Not "tens of thousands." Still horrifying.
@@srbaruchi, your right. That'll be thousands within the resent century. And the farther back we go back in time, the higher the death rates probably were. One also has to take into consideration, that the cause of thise deaths are usually reported as other reasons, like hemorrhage, when children bleed to death, even though bleedings were inflicted surgery on genitalia, or by the wound surgery left behind. Thus it is evident to honest folks, that that the real cause of death is a result of the foreskin amputating procedure, without which the children have suffered, let alone died.
S Winegar ...just IMAGINE what parent could be convinced- even for religious reasons- to allow the cutter to suck the blood off their child’s penis with his mouth?! Do a medical literature search,people,if you don’t believe that infants have contracted herpes and at least one has died because of this disgusting practice. The sheep are insane.
What I love about this is that when people around him tries to move on and sweep it under the rug, he digs down and forces them to face the issue. Admirable.
@@mlthornton1 no wonder. they have committed a crime against humanity for pushing and normalizing this barbaric and cruel act upon innocent babies who can't even decide for them selves by parents who deceived by deceivers. can you imagine for more 40 years, North American kids are being mutilated for ABSOLUTELY no reason at all other than being accepted in a social contract group. To Hell With Your Psychopathic Contract.
Thank you!!!! Now I know I'm not alone. Every male member of my family is in favor of circumcision. I thought I was the only one who felt as you do. Thank you Hitchens, for so much of what you've done.
Actually I was circumcised and I didn't even know it until grade one..... but I only mentioned this because I know some men who have had problems and later in Life have had to have Circumcision and if it traumatizing I don't remember but I apologize for my comments if some young boys have been Traumatized, SORRY!
@@davidelliott1123 Just because you don't remember or doesn't feel anything during the circumcision because of anesthesia or too young to remember, it doesn't change the fact that circumcision are child abuse and wrong because the act itself was committed on minors who can't consent for their own bodies. Plus, most of the time children are unable to completely understand that they will have a part remove by a sharp knife from their most sensitive region on their body and WILL undoubtedly experience the excruciating pain that comes with it. Even if they did, they will be just like you only realizing about it when you're old enough to understand what circumcision is. And for many children around world, this also mean stealing our rights to make choices for our own body when we are fully grown up; just like the men who have problems later in life like you mentioned in your comment and need to have circumcision. I can't see how this is relevant since they are now "men", which means they CAN consent, understand what they will be going through and obviously already have a proven medical needs for it.
@@bruhhbrahh Sorry for my comments about everything!, I am not a Politician making law's, but it looks like it just got you really upset!, if you like a good argument about anything, and enjoy a good fight?, we could just argue about any topic?, but if you have high blood pressure?, it's just not going to be good for anyone to get angry about any issues, so I found a little secret of what my friend would say, everytime their was an argument arising , he would reply to a lot of topics saying " That's just a Mood Point " meaning you will have a different answer depending upon your mood at the time of the Question!, simple, don't get aggravated, it's not worth it!, you just can't change everything in the world..... Have a good Night 😴
@@davidelliott1123 nah I'm not angry or upset. I'm just explaining cuz 😂 also my answer won't change either way whether I'm upset or angry because it was factual. Edit: not trying to be rude or anything but why are you always ending your sentences with a lot of question mark/exclamation point and comma "?,/!," it was really weird to read it because of the up and down tone lol 😂 Good night too, or dare I say God bless 😉
As a person who remembers full well what the pain was like, having been circumcised at 18, and that under complete anaesthesia, I have to agree with Hitchens on the barbarity of it. The pain after waking up and after the anaesthesia wore off was excruciating and lasted for weeks. After the fact, as an older adult, I understood what both the doctor and that practice truly were. Criminal and barbaric is what they are.
@@GeneralPet Out of ignorance and respect for a "specialist's authority" when what could have been done for my medical condition should have been minimally invasive and corrected via less drastic and permanent method. This was 44 years ago, before I understood the business that is the medical industry.
@@johneboy910 ah,so you were dirty?..also,im circumcised, bugger all pain but then again I'm a real man...and I like it...and every person I know who's been circumcised likes the look,
That's actually not the point. The point is rather hidden. Judaism uses circumcision as an innovation - it is used as a substitution for child sacrifices. Then, it becomes a way to keep the community united and unique. So the problem is not in what it does initially, that's fine. The problem is why it continues doing it.
@@dt6822 what ? It doesn’t matter the reason. The fact is it’s mutilation under the guise of religious non sense. And people think it’s normal because of the brainwashing they’ve gone through.
I'm not religious neither were my parents they believed that a circumsized penis is more hygienic I still remember the day they took me to get the procedure I asked what it all ment they explained what was going to happen at the doctor I was terrified but to young to argue against it .I remember everything feeling embarrassed to take my clothes off for the doctor then having my penis stretched out the doctor placing a scalpel on the table but the cutting I can't remember I remember leaving the doctor's office and the pain of recovery but I must of blocked out the rest clearly it was to traumatic otherwise I would remember the cutting and what happened to my forskins what the doctor did with it I have no idear
I remember learning as a child that boys in America get the ends of their genitalia’s cut and was utterly horrified. Then I grew a little and was told it was normal there, quelling my disgust. Then I grew even more and learning about it further; realised the kid me had it absolutely right.
Let's give thanks to the single mothers and parents who understand the benefits of male circumcision and that the child will appreciate those benefits throughout their life. Parents who have taken the time to educate themselves on circumcision have found it to: Decreases the risk of urinary tract infections in infancy. Decreases the risk of penile cancer. Decreases risk of sexually transmitted diseases, including female-to-male transmission of HIV. Decreases the risk of cervical cancer and some infections in female partners. Prevents balanitis, balanoposthitis, paraphimosis, and phimosis. Makes it easier to maintain good genital hygiene. Makes it easier in nursing care when old. Decrease in health coverage cost
Several surveys and studies have shown that in addition to the substantial health benefits of male circumcision, there are also sexual benefits including a greater physical appeal to women. In a survey where women were asked to rate their preferences when it came to different forms of sexual activity, a substantial majority of women overwhelmingly preferred men who were circumcised; for intercourse, 71 percent preferred circumcised men while only 6 percent said they preferred uncircumcised men; for fellatio, 82 percent said they preferred a circumcised penis while 2 percent said they preferred an uncircumcised partner; and for manual stimulation, 75 percent favored circumcised partners compared with 5 percent who reported a preference for uncircumcised men. In addition, 76 percent said circumcised penises were more attractive while only 4 percent said they preferred the look of an uncircumcised penis; a whopping 90 percent said the circumcised penis looked “sexier;” 85 percent said it felt nicer to the touch; and 92 percent said they felt it was cleaner. Even women who had never had a circumcised partner said they preferred the way a circumcised penis looks. An Australian study found that women whose partners were circumcised were much more likely to have orgasms, as well as more likely to have simultaneous orgasms.
You must have learned very little cos you dont know what it is.......cutting the end of their genitals? You are not only wrong...but really sick....can you read? Should you be able to, please use internet or books to get the information you lack about male circumcision....
@@jonathonrobinson7236 There is no demonstrable proof of circumcision decreasing penile cancer, cervical cancer, HIV, and all other "benefits" you have stated. The only cultures that this sort of pseudoscience comes from are cultures that already practiced circumcision. Also, stating that circumcision PREVENTS balanitis, balanoposthitis, paraphimosis, and phimosis is to state that balanitis, balanoposthitis, paraphimosis, and phimosis WILL occur in men, which is a lie. I also don't understand the hygiene argument. A body is biological. It becomes dirty, and we wash our entire bodies. Why is the foreskin an exception? Hygiene is not a modern invention. My cat washes itself, and so do the mice and birds it catches. Cleaning a foreskin is easy. You pull it back for 5 seconds under the shower to rinse it. If you have trouble with that, I wonder what your teeth look like, considering those must be brushed 2x2 minutes a day. There are MANY bodyparts that need more care than a foreskin. Smegma only forms with SEVERE neglect.
Oh please.. you are just one tight a.h.. aren’t you? So because this guy dares to question or even insinuate absurdity in their logic, suddenly to you he is not well educated? If anything I applaud that he doesn’t stop when he gets an answer, that is the mark of an educated person. You seem to have a preference towards well trained dogs. Perhaps you love in a cage like the others.
Dave W Kinder? I thought I was being kind. I was only joking with him. Shessh you didn't have to jump on me like that. Next time try to be a bit kinder.
For everyone here talking about Hitchens smoking tobacco: 1. Hitchens did not hold a child down and give it cancer. 2. Hitchens did not force a child to smoke, even if that child would grow up to regret their smoking. 3. Oh, and most importantly, Hitchens did not mutilate a defenseless child. Also, there's this great thing you should all read: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_the_goalposts
Frank Cooke If your comment was addressing my reply to GhostDog, please understand that I do not approve of the barbaric trait of circumcision for either gender.
slučajni prolaznik What about passive smoking? Hitch lacked wisdom the highest form of intelligence. However, he's not arguing with anyone now he's passed on to better things I'd say!
slučajni prolaznik You don't know whether he didn't regret things in his final hour. So you don't know about the dangers of passive smoking? Ok then you don't know what Hitch felt in the dying mode. I saw hitch on TV talking to a child when he was near death and to me he spoke like he wanted that child to believe in God? But Hitch was headstrong and so lacked wisdom, it was like he was projecting his insecurities on to that child. All I know is Hitch is fine now and rightly so.
Everyone has the right to smoke, so long as they don't put smoke into the air where there are other people, unless the other people have given their expressed consented to having smoke put into their air. Ideally, smokers should breath smoke in and not breathe it out but as that is impractical, as a compromise, smokers should only smoke outdoors, and only when they are at least 10 meters away from any other humans, mammals, or birds.
The poetry of deception practiced and refined for thousands of years disassembled by logic and the beautiful use of the English language. Christopher Hitchens.Truly great man.
My child was born (a healthy, perfect, baby boy) on July 28th. We loved him too much to mutilate him. My boy is intact as nature deems it! And I made it CLEAR to all the nurses and doctors that even brought it up, woe will befall if a "mistake" should happen... Happy baby boy at home!
My parents were told by their physician that circumcision was barbaric. There's lots of doctors who despise the practice. Some doctors are even intactivitsts. I just wish more would suggest to their patients that parents actually witness a circumcision before making their boys get one.
I love my boys too and circumcised them. My husband is not circumcised and gets infections and causes me to get infections and he showers daily. As a caregiver, I know that the elderly disabled can’t tell you what they’re feeling and there are many uncircumcised males, who caregivers that do not understand the importance of really getting in there and cleaning. People have to use their brains and reasoning. It’s not always what you think. I’ve saved my sons from somethings risking other things. My husband hated that he wasn’t circumcised. He even held it against his mom for a while. Whether you do it or don’t, you’re doing it for your kid, out of love.
@@junelledembroski9183 Did you know that circumcision isn't just a childhood procedure? If your husband hates not being circumcised so much, he can do the procedure now, as an adult, with a fully developed brain. You still haven't made a case supporting babies being circumcised, which is a violation of consent.
User456 I did know that, but it’s also not recommended by his own doctor, I didn’t pry, but there it is. My children’s doctors, however, did recommend it, because of life on this planet being different for a blind like me who don’t have time to do anything but work, and I don’t want to use a daycare that I can’t afford anyway, because I don’t trust any Joe schmoe with my children. The point is that most parents love their kids, most people who love their kids, do what they believe is right from their own experiences.
Thank you Hitchens. It is refreshing to hear people use the true definition of words a realistic understanding of what is going on around you without the sugar coat. No more lies
Christopher Hitchens is absolutely right. I was circumcised and it has deeply affected me, both psychologically and physically. Circumcision deprives people of the enjoyment of sex. I found the Rabbi's 'joke' to be completely appalling, and his subsequent comment ludicrous. I would never circumcise my children like my father did to me.
I can't think of anyone with a greater authority on moral sense than Christopher Hitchens. Truly inspiring. How we could have needed some wise words from him these days. Imagine...
@@HW.0029 I can assure you we did not go from Fish to philosophers evolution is not real it is a theory after all and atheists have no idea how the universe started they say from the big bang and then Christians ask what started the big bang and then they’re like we don’t know nothing, so in essence you believe nothing created everything. As Dawkins says. I have a question for you. Can you please answer it in detail 👇 why is murder wrong?
Did they give him a receipt after that show? Because he fucking owned that Rabbi. Good for him for not going easy. This needs to be done to these sick fucks who are still doing this.
Craig Dow yes, indeed. Circumcised men can leave out these time consuming useless daily showers! It is also said that circ helps you eyes degenerate far slower! No more glasses! Moreover, circ genitals bring great luck upon your family as your local shaman will be happy to confirm.
Daniel Joseph "cleaningness" - ever heard of soap and water? "Decreases the risk of contracting AIDS." - ever heard of condoms? "Looks way less disgusting. " - personal preferences are no argument for harming others.
Bohewulf I simply answered the question posed by deadmanvir. my last point was a joke. I love my "mutilated" (give me a goddam break) weapon of desire, and I wouldn't trade all the pain I didn't feel for anything. those who oppose this practice--which is not limited to the Abrahamic religions or even to religion itself--are always either women or men who are uncircumcised, with the sensibility of a woman.
The rabbi attempts to defend forced genital cutting at 4:20, followed by Hitchens' fantastic rebuttal. Watch to the end of the clip, where Hitch says his famous quote: "Genital mutilation is no joke."
OomYaaqub B You misstated their name - it's the American Academy of Pediatrics...and they do NOT recommend circumcision. Read their policy - they assert some benefits, but stop short of a "recommendation." Several pediatrician groups from non-cutting cultures (e.g. Royal Dutch Medical Society) discourage infant male genital cutting.
Wow, so epic... he condemns circumcision, equates it with the cutting of the clit, (in order words he is using some low level generalizations), and then he goes and commits TOBBACO MUTILATION. That is epic to you?
I was circumcised when I was 26 and then again at 29. The local anesthetic failed both times. It was excruciatingly painful. The surgeon who performed the last circumcision did not even believe that I was in pain. And now I have to redo the procedure again, because also he made a mistake and there are still complications. Very bad.
@@daikayll1897 Yea, it's anti-semitic to push back on anything said by these people... lol
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OtherWorlds AllWorlds lol. That’s a PhD MD. From John Hopkins medical center and university. You just proved that you follow a blind religion of materialism and Hitchens is your high priest.
Circumcision (the Torah) was only intended for the Old Covenant Jews in the Old Covenant age of Israel. That age was over when the Romans destroyed the Old Covenant temple in 70 AD.
Ric Hoddinott The funny thing is that Christopher has been guilty of the same crime he accuses the rabbi of. He highly enjoyed his “no child’s behind left” quip despite the fact he was making light of child rape. In all honesty, it seems as though he got a bit angry that someone made a witty joke that wasn’t him.
Proud father of two sons, 10 and 5 years old. Never had them circumcised despite social pressure. Never gave a flying shit about what they say or feel. I always told them my sons have the choice in this matter, I don't. If they want, they are free to get it done when they're grown up. I won't do it for them. And I live in the country that starts with P. Borders with India.
Witnessing the circumcision of my son could very well be the first reason i started to question and gradually lose my religion ,animal sacrifice was another sick practice how i wish now that i could go back and undo these criminal acts.
Let's give thanks to the single mothers and parents who understand the benefits of male circumcision and that the child will appreciate those benefits throughout their life. Parents who have taken the time to educate themselves on circumcision have found it to: Decreases the risk of urinary tract infections in infancy. Decreases the risk of penile cancer. Decreases risk of sexually transmitted diseases, including female-to-male transmission of HIV. Decreases the risk of cervical cancer and some infections in female partners. Prevents balanitis, balanoposthitis, paraphimosis, and phimosis. Makes it easier to maintain good genital hygiene. Makes it easier in nursing care when old. Decrease in health coverage cost
Several surveys and studies have shown that in addition to the substantial health benefits of male circumcision, there are also sexual benefits including a greater physical appeal to women. In a survey where women were asked to rate their preferences when it came to different forms of sexual activity, a substantial majority of women overwhelmingly preferred men who were circumcised; for intercourse, 71 percent preferred circumcised men while only 6 percent said they preferred uncircumcised men; for fellatio, 82 percent said they preferred a circumcised penis while 2 percent said they preferred an uncircumcised partner; and for manual stimulation, 75 percent favored circumcised partners compared with 5 percent who reported a preference for uncircumcised men. In addition, 76 percent said circumcised penises were more attractive while only 4 percent said they preferred the look of an uncircumcised penis; a whopping 90 percent said the circumcised penis looked “sexier;” 85 percent said it felt nicer to the touch; and 92 percent said they felt it was cleaner. Even women who had never had a circumcised partner said they preferred the way a circumcised penis looks. An Australian study found that women whose partners were circumcised were much more likely to have orgasms, as well as more likely to have simultaneous orgasms.
@@jonathonrobinson7236 hey buddy the only thing worse than no information is the wrong information.... people like you sell your sick practices by justifying it with this sort of crap "studies" that you brainwash the innocent .... shame! Shame ! Shame ! On you and all those like you who promote your sick practices of genital mutilation on babies in the name of cruel religious practices or otherwise.. All those things you wrote in those chapters of your comments in your reply ..are as false as the people who promote them .. educate yourself properly from valid sources before you open your mouth to spread false information..it's time to stop the promoters of genital mutilation like we stopped slavery... Produce the "surveys and studies" you claim and i will show you who's butt it was pulled out of.. shame! On you...
Having just finished “Letters To A Young Contrarian”, I am more ecstatic whenever I see Hitchens confront an issue he sees to be pertinent no matter how unpopular his side is. Many people will cower and bow to the consensus or stay silent in the face of it, but Hitchens would never and the world is better for it. Many people promote “negative peace”, but Hitchens was one of the few to promote “positive peace”. “Don’t take refuge in the false security of consensus and the feeling that whatever you think, you’re bound to be OK because you’re in the safely moral majority.” “Never be a spectator to unfairness or stupidity. Seek out argument and disputation for their own sake; the grave will supply plenty of time for silence.” “Do not armour yourself in the safety of consensus - consensus may change and you may find yourself naked.”
As far as circumcision is concerned, rarely does anyone mention how it DEPRIVES WOMEN of so much pleasure. It's always about the man and his loss of pleasure.
Although I myself have been circumcised I 100% agree with Christopher..... in my case when I was 6 I had the operation due to foreskin being to tight, the only thing I remember is the excruciating pain in the weeks after the operation and to force a child to have this procedure unnecessarily is disgusting and barbaric!!
Theodore Bugsby The funny thing is that Christopher has been guilty of the same crime he accuses the rabbi of. He highly enjoyed his “no child’s behind left” quip despite the fact he was making light of child rape. In all honesty, it seems as though he got a bit angry that someone made a witty joke that wasn’t him.
@@colin-campbell Quite an accusation to make trying to prove the unprovable. First, Mr Hitchens only pointed to the rabbi of making a joke based on an insidious crime the jewish faith commits daily with no remorse. Second, if Mr Hitchens was ever accused of such crime it never made it to the courts, it might have only landed on the lap of tabloids. Third, do you really believe that a person such as Christopher H. would be jealous of not being the first to make such a cheap joke? Fourth, Brits still can not forgive Christopher Hitchens for claiming citizenship from another country instead of england. Lastly, I will quote something still relevant from the man you are trying to smear: "Religion poisons everything" Good day, Sir!
@@theodorebugsby3045 “In the very recent past, we have seen the Church of Rome befouled by its complicity with the unpardonable sin of child rape, or, as it might be phrased in Latin form, "no child's behind left.” ― Christopher Hitchens, God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything
It's tragic that in many hospitals in the US and around the world hospitals have an opt out policy towards male circumcision. So the mother must opt out or it will be done emediatly. I'm so grateful that my mother didn't put me through this medieval procedure.
There is no real discussion to be had here. No one has a right to cut off bits from any other human without that individuals express consent. If the kid gets to 18 and wants it off, by all means. The argument that it makes the penis easier to clean is embarrassingly easy to counter .For one thing, all you need to do is pull the skin back and wash with water. Pretty basic. Secondly we all know its much more difficult for women to wash their genitals than it is for men. Why aren't we cutting their bits off? - No pro circumsion psychopath can answer this. Unblievable that this is still standard practice in America. Sad to hear some people say the unmutilated penis is ugly. How brainwashed can a person be.
+St3v3z Since diabetics are prone to circulatory problems, we should go ahead and cut off all their extremities to head off possible infections! Hell, might as well rip out everyone's adult teeth as soon as they grow in, and replace them with dentures that will never hurt or need to be operated on! The logic just saves us so many problems!
ExternalTooth I personally cut boobs (both male and female) off on sight to save people from breast cancer. Some say I am a hero, others, a psychopath.
ExternalTooth Indeed I thought thusly as I was being insulted by a rude old woman as I causally sawed away at her left bresticle. Its almost as if she thought I didn't have the right to remove any random piece of her person that I deemed surplus. Weird.
St3v3z Well, you see, the key is ensuring that she doesn't remember it happening. That's one of the keystone arguments for the removal of body parts from a person without his/her consent. So long as you sedate her such that she won't remember the process of losing her breast, it's totally fine! On a side note, you could pretty much make the rape of a drugged woman acceptable, as well. As long as she's sedated so that she can't remember the trauma, and assuming you use protection so that it's *unlikely* that she'll have side effects, then what's the problem? The same argument is used for circumcision, because death or permanent injuries resulting from the procedure are *unlikely*.
Hitch didn't miss a beat . I missed him in his prime but I have some of his books . Shytt I wish Hitch was here now September 2022 . We need another Hitch pronto
@Pomfromoz , Thanks , but I kind of was going for the "Best Answer Award". I am checking my Bible looking for the guy who sliced and craved up The Lord's Pickle. And for the record the Lord wanted his prayers to end with the phrase "Ahh-men" not Amen.
@@kathyheitchue2022 , Well Kathy let me explain : 1- The Bible refers to him as the Heavenly father. 2- Jesus on the cross said " Forgive them father for they know not what they do. " And so many times they (the Bible) refer to God as a male. 3- As an Atheist I would say why does God need a gender. So do I think God is a male? Nope. I apologize if you're not a Christian.
Veterinarians stopped the cropping of dogs ears, the Declawing of cats. Humans are animals, and we commit these atrocities against our babies.Tribalism will be the undoing of us all.
For me, the joy of this is the crushing silence of the audience members, mostly women, who had whooped and clapped the rabbi's ill judged attempt at humour.
Every medical procedure done to a child without medical necessity should be a crime. Why don't those crazy fuckers do it to their kids when they are 16 or 18? Because it is so much easier to mutilate a baby that can't say no.
@HandyMan101 You mean when useless men get out of the way of everyone else who actually contributes more than bitching and violence stemming from self hatred, insecurity, and ignorance regardless of sex/gender? I actively strive for and look forward to it. Your threat is not a threat. It is what the rest of us men and women hope for every day
Women often love to laugh when there is a story in the news about some guy getting his manhood chopped by angry ex partners etc, no surprise they get tittlated by circumcision. The even seem to be more in favour of dog castration. LEAVE OUR MALE PARTS ALONE!
These two to the right should be in the psychology books in every high school as perfect example of narcissism. Such a people should never be in position of power- especially political power.
Hitchings as usual is spot on in his analysis. In this age of reason this medieval religion sanctioned child abuse must stop. Moreover, the laws of all countries should criminalize these practices. Its perfectly ok for people to practice their own religion but it has no right inflict abuse onto the defenseless infants. As Hitch said "For Shame , For Shame"
@@bigshmooz610 "I would personally kill anybody me from circumcising my child" "I am anything but a violent person." These statements seem to contradict one another.
The body of the child is of the child, not of the parents. The individual child should be the one who determines whether mutilation for religious reasons is acceptable at such an age that he can reasonably be expected to make that decision under his own belief rather than under the pressure of the parents. I find it disgusting that western countries have yet to create laws protecting children from the religion of their parents, resulting in genital mutilation of infants who will thus never have a say in the status of their own bodies.
Circumcision is so painful you’ll go blank and numb. It may also be said that a child will cry more when you take a away a toy. Even if it wasn’t painful, you have taken away nerve endings responsible for a more comprehensive physical experience and mental and physical understanding of something at the core of humanity. it’s not like piercing a child’s ears in service of culture, which is still stupid. The ears still retina rain their capacity for feeling. But it would be a religious person who, in service of religion would say, my child cried more at his haircut then when I ruptured his left eardrum and made him deaf, because scripture says everyone should lend their left ear to the lord.
2.(though rare), intermediate complications & long term complications. The foreskin is highly innervated and erogenous (specialized nerve receptors are more refined then those found in the glans). Every unnecessary circumcision of a child is a failure since it always prevents the normal functioning of the penis. There are now many studies that show that circumcision can cause sexual dissatisfaction for both the male and the female partner and also cause sexual dysfunction for the male.
Let's remember that circumcision at an age where you cannot consent and/or understand the procedure may be a viable base for psychological issues down the line.
As the recipient of a botched "circumcision" at 2 days old, and now into my 40s and dealing with all the problems it's caused me, I'm thankful for anyone of influence with the nerve to speak up about this crime against males.
@@ChillAssTurtle They’re right. Why doesn’t that crowd say that to circumcision. Oh wait they’re a bunch of h and o and e words and think one that is cut looks better
@@beagleman123456789 Yea and millions of people who don't practise mutilation of their genitalia around the world don't have "cheese down there" unless you are a pig who don't wash your body. And if you are such a pig who do not wash, your genitalia is the least of your problems.
The moderator was very poor and cowardly....Hitchens was spot on when he said "remember we are not talking detail here"....referring to the Rabbi's weak personal examples and experiences, as part of his flimsy argument...it was just getting interesting, take on Hitchens at your own peril
@jeff Citation needed!! I'm calling bullshit on your comment. Also, your religious bias is clear as day. You are a religious fanatic no doubt, and as such you have no qualms lying to protect your faith. Feckbucket!
It doesn’t matter how much a child cries or doesn’t cry with genital mutilation Rabbi! it is the permanent altering of another human being without consent.
@@reneedermott5244 Piercing the ears of little girls is a questionable practice too. Yet piercing an earlobe is nothing in comparison with removing the whole prepuce, which contains about half of nerve endings in the penis.
I didn't consent to having my penis mutilated. I can at least find a little bit of comfort knowing that the intelligent and well spoken Christopher Hitchens shares my views on circumcision. It's too bad he isn't alive to fight this crap anymore.
Ultimately whether it's painful or not doesn't matter, mutilating another human being's body without their consent is repugnant and should not be done.
@@bogusmcbogus2637I got off somewhat lucky. Mine was clean and wasn't botched. I still wish I had a fully functioning penis, but I still feel and enjoy orgasms.
Imagine saying _"I'm a Sagittarian and demand the right to cut my own son's genitalia"_ - you'd be behind bars before you got to the end of the sentence. Simply exchange "Sagittarian" for "Rabbi" and you'll be speaking at public events and worshipped wherever you go instead. *Religion poisons everything.*
And The Jewish people, Muslims, and anyone with a sensible mind, will continue engaging in circumcision anyways. No matter how persuasive the argument is on the other side.
I was hospitalised many decades ago. Across the ward opposite my post-op bed was a small boy. He screamed and screamed day and night off and on. One night his parents attended his bedside, along with a number of nursing staff and a doctor. The parents stood back in the semi-darkened ward. They left and the curtain was pulled around the bed. Very late at night the boy was removed from the ward. There was no more screaming. A very distressed nurse the following day informed me the boy had died and that it was a circumcision gone wrong. The boy was four years old, she said. That memory burned itself into my mind and has never left me. My brother and I were circumcised early in our infancy and we have both had problems throughout our lives. Both of us were circumcised for religious reasons. I despised both of my parents for what they had done to us - for their God.
the foreskin contains 70% of male pleasure, 60% of american men are neonatally circumcised at birth, while only 0.01% of uk men are neonatally circumcised
@@s0la.scr1ptura You're not actually stupid enough to draw parallels between abortion and circumcision right? In what delusional mind state do you have to be in to see a conflict between a mothers right to terminate a pregnancy, and a humans right to not have their genitals necessarily mutilated against their will during a period of defenselessness at the whim of the parents. Abortion is a right of the female Intact genitals is the right of the child. If you didn't realize it by now, females are protected by law from having their genitals cut up. Must be nice to have a legal system protecting you from abuse.
@@CircmcisionIsChi1dAbus3 Involuntary amputation of the prepuce in males and females is similar mutilation. The female prepuce is much smaller than the male prepuce. Because a smaller amount of tissue is removed, does that mean it is not as bad? A fetus can be either male or female. If an adult woman is pregnant, does her right to an abortion extend equally to a fetus of either sex? Is the woman's right to abort a pregnancy solely the right of the pregnant woman? Does the sex of the fetus affect the right of the woman carrying it to abort her pregnancy? For example if a pregnant woman wants to abort only those pregnancies where the fetus is female, and carry all male fetuses to term, does the pregnant adult woman have the right to do that?
The "circumcision for hygiene" argument is like having a surgical procedure to entirely remove all of your fingernails so that you don't get them dirty instead of cleaning underneath the nail and trimming them since they grow continuously.
in some regions of the world there are hygiene issues, due to of a lack of water. That's where this tradition comes from. And even though most men in these countries are circumcized, they have higher rates of infections of their penis today than developed countries with easy access to hygiene. The Jews originated from a desert 6000 years ago. It's necessity depends on where you live
"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire
I'll remember that
Very appropriate, yes... as applied to Hitchens, who bemoaned the loss of a bit of skin and supported the slaughter of many thousands in Iraq. Yes, let's talk about expiation, Christopher.
Ironic that he helped a revolution kill millions.
Indeed, big bang & evolution is unscientific, it is no wonder atheists Mao and Stalin killed over a hundred million people
The greatest absurdity of all is the belief that NOTHING created EVERYTHING.
Oh how I miss this man, calling people out everywhere he went.
Frankly, the world is a better place without him.
@@endofscene, considering that I am not an evil person like Hitchens was, why would the world be a better place if I were not here?
@@bigshmooz610 Torturing and mutilating babies is an evil act. Hitchens never did that. As far as I know he didn't torture or mutilate anyone.
Anyone who believes that their race (or group) is chosen by God is a racist. And anyone who defends genocides committed by their race/group is a very serious racist.
@@bigshmooz610 Torturing and mutilating babies is an evil act. Hitchens never did that. As far as I know he didn't torture or mutilate anyone.
Anyone who believes that their race (or group) is chosen by God is a racist. And anyone who defends genocides committed by their race/group is a very serious racist.
@@endofscene, circumcision is not torturing nor mutilating babies. The evil act is on those who try to stop Jews from circumcising their baby boys. Hitchens did that. Hitchens is a murderer.
Facts won't change just because you deem them to be racist. Israel was in fact chosen by God as His special people. And the only types of genocide that is defended by Israel are the type known as self defense. Israel was never commanded to indiscriminately kill anybody and no Torah abiding Jew defends indiscriminate killing of people.
Christopher Hitchens gave the perfect response to the rabbi's anecdote. Just because you know someone who has gone through the mutilation and survived or done the mutilation yourself doesn't justify the thousands of children who die as a direct result of it in the US alone, as well as the many thousands more in other areas of the world.
Not "thousands" (in the USA) on an annual basis, but 100+/year. www.circinfo.org/USA_deaths.html
@@srbaruchi, which means tens of thousands were murdered in vain just within the past decade.
Then there's the torture of children aspect …
The inner side a neonate male's foreskin is fused to the glans with tissue called synechia①.
Before being able to cut off anything, the quack, they call doctor or mohel or whatever, has to probe the mucus skin from the glans② (can you imagine the pain?).
①Synechia is the same type of tissue, that fuses your nails to your fingers and toes.
②Mucuosa is the same type of skin, which covers inner eyelids and inside of mouth.
Children don't have sex, so it's not relevant for neither girls, nor boys to be involuntarily subjected to preemptive, *irreversible* cosmetic genital reduction surgery without urgent medical indication. Adults can make their own choices about their own bodies, when they come of age. Her body, her rights - His body, his rights.
Contrary to popular believe and aap lies, there are more complications in neonatal circumcision, than in those of adults. More than a hundred neonates actually die each year in US hospitals from this malpractice alone.
And why are Hiv rates higher in MGM US, than in intact Europe? Why have been no increase in Australian rates, when they stopped slicing? Why same pattern for penile cancer and UTI's? Lemme answer - cuz Murican doctors/ObGyns/paediatricians③ lie! There are no benefits to arbitrary amputation of any bodypart without *explicit medical indication,* which in practice means never. UTI's with both boys and girls are easily treated with antibiotics.
③Medical personnel, which encourage parents to prematurely retract the pubic prepuce of boys, who are kept intact, are still commonly encountered. Once prematurely retracted, infection occurs and they once again make a case for foreskin amputation, which parents at that point will have a very hard time resistanting due to the inflicted complications, because they are not told, that antibiotics is also an option. Myths of hygiene and penile diseases are still perpetuated in these areas.
@@OldTeaMate I agree with you, "Mate," but your math is way off. An average of 100 deaths per year x 10 years (a decade) = 1,000. Not "tens of thousands." Still horrifying.
@@srbaruchi, your right. That'll be thousands within the resent century. And the farther back we go back in time, the higher the death rates probably were.
One also has to take into consideration, that the cause of thise deaths are usually reported as other reasons, like hemorrhage, when children bleed to death, even though bleedings were inflicted surgery on genitalia, or by the wound surgery left behind. Thus it is evident to honest folks, that that the real cause of death is a result of the foreskin amputating procedure, without which the children have suffered, let alone died.
S Winegar ...just IMAGINE what parent could be convinced- even for religious reasons- to allow the cutter to suck the blood off their child’s penis with his mouth?! Do a medical literature search,people,if you don’t believe that infants have contracted herpes and at least one has died because of this disgusting practice. The sheep are insane.
What I love about this is that when people around him tries to move on and sweep it under the rug, he digs down and forces them to face the issue. Admirable.
me too
He would not look at Rabbi Kushner
He did not counter the argument and could not. That is why the farcical anger.
@@mlthornton1 no wonder.
they have committed a crime against humanity for pushing and normalizing this barbaric and cruel act upon innocent babies who can't even decide for them selves by parents who deceived by deceivers.
can you imagine for more 40 years, North American kids are being mutilated for ABSOLUTELY no reason at all other than being accepted in a social contract group.
To Hell With Your Psychopathic Contract.
10,000 children today
Thank you!!!! Now I know I'm not alone. Every male member of my family is in favor of circumcision. I thought I was the only one who felt as you do. Thank you Hitchens, for so much of what you've done.
Actually I was circumcised and I didn't even know it until grade one..... but I only mentioned this because I know some men who have had problems and later in Life have had to have Circumcision and if it traumatizing I don't remember but I apologize for my comments if some young boys have been Traumatized, SORRY!
@@davidelliott1123 Just because you don't remember or doesn't feel anything during the circumcision because of anesthesia or too young to remember, it doesn't change the fact that circumcision are child abuse and wrong because the act itself was committed on minors who can't consent for their own bodies. Plus, most of the time children are unable to completely understand that they will have a part remove by a sharp knife from their most sensitive region on their body and WILL undoubtedly experience the excruciating pain that comes with it.
Even if they did, they will be just like you only realizing about it when you're old enough to understand what circumcision is. And for many children around world, this also mean stealing our rights to make choices for our own body when we are fully grown up; just like the men who have problems later in life like you mentioned in your comment and need to have circumcision. I can't see how this is relevant since they are now "men", which means they CAN consent, understand what they will be going through and obviously already have a proven medical needs for it.
@@bruhhbrahh Sorry for my comments about everything!, I am not a Politician making law's, but it looks like it just got you really upset!, if you like a good argument about anything, and enjoy a good fight?, we could just argue about any topic?, but if you have high blood pressure?, it's just not going to be good for anyone to get angry about any issues, so I found a little secret of what my friend would say, everytime their was an argument arising , he would reply to a lot of topics saying " That's just a Mood Point " meaning you will have a different answer depending upon your mood at the time of the Question!, simple, don't get aggravated, it's not worth it!, you just can't change everything in the world..... Have a good Night 😴
@@davidelliott1123 nah I'm not angry or upset. I'm just explaining cuz 😂 also my answer won't change either way whether I'm upset or angry because it was factual.
Edit: not trying to be rude or anything but why are you always ending your sentences with a lot of question mark/exclamation point and comma "?,/!," it was really weird to read it because of the up and down tone lol 😂
Good night too, or dare I say God bless 😉
@@bruhhbrahhProbably not a native speaker or just bad at English
As a person who remembers full well what the pain was like, having been circumcised at 18, and that under complete anaesthesia, I have to agree with Hitchens on the barbarity of it. The pain after waking up and after the anaesthesia wore off was excruciating and lasted for weeks. After the fact, as an older adult, I understood what both the doctor and that practice truly were. Criminal and barbaric is what they are.
Why would you accept to have a circumcision at 18?
@@GeneralPet
Out of ignorance and respect for a "specialist's authority" when what could have been done for my medical condition should have been minimally invasive and corrected via less drastic and permanent method. This was 44 years ago, before I understood the business that is the medical industry.
@@johneboy910 ah,so you were dirty?..also,im circumcised, bugger all pain but then again I'm a real man...and I like it...and every person I know who's been circumcised likes the look,
@@borednz2982 You're a real man because you think something wasn't painful? You sound like a 9 year old who fell out of a tree.
@@HuwPewPew and you sir sound like sergeant major from" it ain't half hot mum"!
He makes his point for him. Religion normalized mutilating and disfiguring a newborn. Even worse, he makes it into a laughing matter.
That's actually not the point. The point is rather hidden. Judaism uses circumcision as an innovation - it is used as a substitution for child sacrifices. Then, it becomes a way to keep the community united and unique. So the problem is not in what it does initially, that's fine. The problem is why it continues doing it.
@@dt6822 what ? It doesn’t matter the reason. The fact is it’s mutilation under the guise of religious non sense. And people think it’s normal because of the brainwashing they’ve gone through.
@@dt6822 but why not let the owner of the penis decide his religion alliance or faith
@@dt6822
I’m struggling to see how it is fine to cut away part of the penis of a new born baby for any reason other than medical.
I'm not religious neither were my parents they believed that a circumsized penis is more hygienic I still remember the day they took me to get the procedure I asked what it all ment they explained what was going to happen at the doctor I was terrified but to young to argue against it .I remember everything feeling embarrassed to take my clothes off for the doctor then having my penis stretched out the doctor placing a scalpel on the table but the cutting I can't remember I remember leaving the doctor's office and the pain of recovery but I must of blocked out the rest clearly it was to traumatic otherwise I would remember the cutting and what happened to my forskins what the doctor did with it I have no idear
I remember learning as a child that boys in America get the ends of their genitalia’s cut and was utterly horrified. Then I grew a little and was told it was normal there, quelling my disgust. Then I grew even more and learning about it further; realised the kid me had it absolutely right.
Let's give thanks to the single mothers and parents who understand the benefits of male circumcision and that the child will appreciate those benefits throughout their life. Parents who have taken the time to educate themselves on circumcision have found it to:
Decreases the risk of urinary tract infections in infancy.
Decreases the risk of penile cancer.
Decreases risk of sexually transmitted diseases, including female-to-male transmission of HIV.
Decreases the risk of cervical cancer and some infections in female partners.
Prevents balanitis, balanoposthitis, paraphimosis, and phimosis.
Makes it easier to maintain good genital hygiene.
Makes it easier in nursing care when old.
Decrease in health coverage cost
Several surveys and studies have shown that in addition to the substantial health benefits of male circumcision, there are also sexual benefits including a greater physical appeal to women.
In a survey where women were asked to rate their preferences when it came to different forms of sexual activity, a substantial majority of women overwhelmingly preferred men who were circumcised; for intercourse, 71 percent preferred circumcised men while only 6 percent said they preferred uncircumcised men; for fellatio, 82 percent said they preferred a circumcised penis while 2 percent said they preferred an uncircumcised partner; and for manual stimulation, 75 percent favored circumcised partners compared with 5 percent who reported a preference for uncircumcised men.
In addition, 76 percent said circumcised penises were more attractive while only 4 percent said they preferred the look of an uncircumcised penis; a whopping 90 percent said the circumcised penis looked “sexier;” 85 percent said it felt nicer to the touch; and 92 percent said they felt it was cleaner.
Even women who had never had a circumcised partner said they preferred the way a circumcised penis looks.
An Australian study found that women whose partners were circumcised were much more likely to have orgasms, as well as more likely to have simultaneous orgasms.
You must have learned very little cos you dont know what it is.......cutting the end of their genitals? You are not only wrong...but really sick....can you read? Should you be able to, please use internet or books to get the information you lack about male circumcision....
@@jonathonrobinson7236 There is no demonstrable proof of circumcision decreasing penile cancer, cervical cancer, HIV, and all other "benefits" you have stated. The only cultures that this sort of pseudoscience comes from are cultures that already practiced circumcision.
Also, stating that circumcision PREVENTS balanitis, balanoposthitis, paraphimosis, and phimosis is to state that balanitis, balanoposthitis, paraphimosis, and phimosis WILL occur in men, which is a lie.
I also don't understand the hygiene argument. A body is biological. It becomes dirty, and we wash our entire bodies. Why is the foreskin an exception? Hygiene is not a modern invention. My cat washes itself, and so do the mice and birds it catches.
Cleaning a foreskin is easy. You pull it back for 5 seconds under the shower to rinse it. If you have trouble with that, I wonder what your teeth look like, considering those must be brushed 2x2 minutes a day. There are MANY bodyparts that need more care than a foreskin. Smegma only forms with SEVERE neglect.
@@MayerAudax My friend, once you get educated and become an adult then I hope you will come to understand.
It’s amazing how educated these guys sound, until Hitchens speaks.
Oh please.. you are just one tight a.h.. aren’t you? So because this guy dares to question or even insinuate absurdity in their logic, suddenly to you he is not well educated? If anything I applaud that he doesn’t stop when he gets an answer, that is the mark of an educated person. You seem to have a preference towards well trained dogs. Perhaps you love in a cage like the others.
Like the man said if no-one had ever told you about god.. would you have figured it out yourself?
galapagoensis You knitwit Monarchyman was saying that the other guys don't seem as educated when Hitchens finally speaks...Ha hahaha..you nut
@@zebbanister2348 For goodness sake. He's not a nut, he just read an ambiguous statement a different way to you ( and me). Try to be a bit kinder.
Dave W Kinder? I thought I was being kind. I was only joking with him. Shessh you didn't have to jump on me like that. Next time try to be a bit kinder.
For everyone here talking about Hitchens smoking tobacco:
1. Hitchens did not hold a child down and give it cancer.
2. Hitchens did not force a child to smoke, even if that child would grow up to regret their smoking.
3. Oh, and most importantly, Hitchens did not mutilate a defenseless child.
Also, there's this great thing you should all read: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_the_goalposts
Frank Cooke
If your comment was addressing my reply to GhostDog, please understand that I do not approve of the barbaric trait of circumcision for either gender.
slučajni prolaznik What about passive smoking? Hitch lacked wisdom the highest form of intelligence. However, he's not arguing with anyone now he's passed on to better things I'd say!
slučajni prolaznik You don't know whether he didn't regret things in his final hour. So you don't know about the dangers of passive smoking? Ok then you don't know what Hitch felt in the dying mode. I saw hitch on TV talking to a child when he was near death and to me he spoke like he wanted that child to believe in God? But Hitch was headstrong and so lacked wisdom, it was like he was projecting his insecurities on to that child. All I know is Hitch is fine now and rightly so.
@@joesmoke9624 You christstains are constantly trying to revise people's ideals after they die to suit your "god".
There is no wisdom in blind faith.
Everyone has the right to smoke, so long as they don't put smoke into the air where there are other people, unless the other people have given their expressed consented to having smoke put into their air. Ideally, smokers should breath smoke in and not breathe it out but as that is impractical, as a compromise, smokers should only smoke outdoors, and only when they are at least 10 meters away from any other humans, mammals, or birds.
The irony in all of this is Hitchens will live on forever, while the other two won't be remembered at all
There’s a possibility he could be forgotten hundreds or thousands of years from now, but that’s a worse case scenario
@@willagerfairzack8130
Eventually everyone and everything will be forgotten
@@crazyprayingmantis5596 Only if you don’t smoke DMT.
They will all be remembered.
The poetry of deception practiced and refined for thousands of years disassembled by logic and the beautiful use of the English language. Christopher Hitchens.Truly great man.
My child was born (a healthy, perfect, baby boy) on July 28th. We loved him too much to mutilate him. My boy is intact as nature deems it! And I made it CLEAR to all the nurses and doctors that even brought it up, woe will befall if a "mistake" should happen... Happy baby boy at home!
I wish my parents were this wise. My mom only regretted it after finding out that the bandages are difficult to change. My dad is indifferent.
My parents were told by their physician that circumcision was barbaric. There's lots of doctors who despise the practice. Some doctors are even intactivitsts. I just wish more would suggest to their patients that parents actually witness a circumcision before making their boys get one.
I love my boys too and circumcised them. My husband is not circumcised and gets infections and causes me to get infections and he showers daily. As a caregiver, I know that the elderly disabled can’t tell you what they’re feeling and there are many uncircumcised males, who caregivers that do not understand the importance of really getting in there and cleaning. People have to use their brains and reasoning. It’s not always what you think. I’ve saved my sons from somethings risking other things. My husband hated that he wasn’t circumcised. He even held it against his mom for a while. Whether you do it or don’t, you’re doing it for your kid, out of love.
@@junelledembroski9183 Did you know that circumcision isn't just a childhood procedure? If your husband hates not being circumcised so much, he can do the procedure now, as an adult, with a fully developed brain. You still haven't made a case supporting babies being circumcised, which is a violation of consent.
User456 I did know that, but it’s also not recommended by his own doctor, I didn’t pry, but there it is. My children’s doctors, however, did recommend it, because of life on this planet being different for a blind like me who don’t have time to do anything but work, and I don’t want to use a daycare that I can’t afford anyway, because I don’t trust any Joe schmoe with my children. The point is that most parents love their kids, most people who love their kids, do what they believe is right from their own experiences.
Thank you Hitchens. It is refreshing to hear people use the true definition of words a realistic understanding of what is going on around you without the sugar coat. No more lies
Christopher Hitchens is absolutely right. I was circumcised and it has deeply affected me, both psychologically and physically. Circumcision deprives people of the enjoyment of sex. I found the Rabbi's 'joke' to be completely appalling, and his subsequent comment ludicrous. I would never circumcise my children like my father did to me.
I didn't know of Christopher until after he died. I wish I knew about him years ago.
You know of him now, at least. Watch and read his work. Spread the rationality.
I can't think of anyone with a greater authority on moral sense than Christopher Hitchens. Truly inspiring. How we could have needed some wise words from him these days. Imagine...
Hitchens is absolutely spot on!
From what I've seen he always is
Hitchens is absolutely a fool
@@fireandgrace9456 who’s a fool? Believing in invisible spaghetti monsters? Lmao your as much of a joke as your name
@@HW.0029 I can assure you we did not go from Fish to philosophers evolution is not real it is a theory after all and atheists have no idea how the universe started they say from the big bang and then Christians ask what started the big bang and then they’re like we don’t know nothing, so in essence you believe nothing created everything. As Dawkins says.
I have a question for you. Can you please answer it in detail 👇
why is murder wrong?
@@fireandgrace9456 nah I won’t debate people who believe in things without evidence. Aka dumbass
Did they give him a receipt after that show? Because he fucking owned that Rabbi. Good for him for not going easy. This needs to be done to these sick fucks who are still doing this.
My Rabbi is fairly laid back. I told him my kids won't be having it done. He said it's no skin off my nose.
Boring.
So weird that the moderator tried to switch the topic as soon as it was about to get interesting
"There are health benefits..."
I am dying to hear what those health benefits are....! Anyone?
When you go for a pee in the desert.. you don't get sand under the foreskin... it's much more hygienic... thus, less germs... DUH!!!! OBVIOUSLY.
Craig Dow
yes, indeed. Circumcised men can leave out these time consuming useless daily showers! It is also said that circ helps you eyes degenerate far slower! No more glasses!
Moreover, circ genitals bring great luck upon your family as your local shaman will be happy to confirm.
Cleanliness. Decreases the risk of contracting AIDS. Looks way less disgusting.
Daniel Joseph
"cleaningness" - ever heard of soap and water?
"Decreases the risk of contracting AIDS."
- ever heard of condoms?
"Looks way less disgusting. "
- personal preferences are no argument for harming others.
Bohewulf I simply answered the question posed by deadmanvir. my last point was a joke. I love my "mutilated" (give me a goddam break) weapon of desire, and I wouldn't trade all the pain I didn't feel for anything. those who oppose this practice--which is not limited to the Abrahamic religions or even to religion itself--are always either women or men who are uncircumcised, with the sensibility of a woman.
The world needs more people like Hitch. Rest in peace.
The rabbi attempts to defend forced genital cutting at 4:20, followed by Hitchens' fantastic rebuttal. Watch to the end of the clip, where Hitch says his famous quote: "Genital mutilation is no joke."
The American Pediatric Association now recommends male circumcision for health reasons.
OomYaaqub B You misstated their name - it's the American Academy of Pediatrics...and they do NOT recommend circumcision. Read their policy - they assert some benefits, but stop short of a "recommendation." Several pediatrician groups from non-cutting cultures (e.g. Royal Dutch Medical Society) discourage infant male genital cutting.
OomYaaqub B
Bullshit.
Where do you people get this crap from?!
Wow, so epic... he condemns circumcision, equates it with the cutting of the clit, (in order words he is using some low level generalizations), and then he goes and commits TOBBACO MUTILATION. That is epic to you?
OomYaaqub B whoever recommends circumcision are either idiots or evil no matter what their credentials are.
I was circumcised when I was 26 and then again at 29. The local anesthetic failed both times. It was excruciatingly painful. The surgeon who performed the last circumcision did not even believe that I was in pain. And now I have to redo the procedure again, because also he made a mistake and there are still complications. Very bad.
Sorry for you. Go well.
Sorry, out of curiosity - what was your motivation to do it in the first place?
@@DarkWildSaison Chronic inflammation
@@Popitet that's bullshit
Wow, it seems as though that rabbi had a cold bucket of reality thrown at him.
Probably does'nt come across much in the way of contradiction and counter arguments too often thats why.
Very cold
Not really
@@daikayll1897 Yea, it's anti-semitic to push back on anything said by these people... lol
OtherWorlds AllWorlds lol. That’s a PhD MD. From John Hopkins medical center and university. You just proved that you follow a blind religion of materialism and Hitchens is your high priest.
One of the best hitchslaps miss you Mr hitchens.
If there was no such thing as circumcision and I was to invent it now I’d be rightly condemned. It’s an abomination, pure and simple.
it is the mutilation of gods image , god would never tell us to mutilate him or his image only the devil would jews worship the devil
Circumcision (the Torah) was only intended for the Old Covenant Jews in the Old Covenant age of Israel. That age was over when the Romans destroyed the Old Covenant temple in 70 AD.
True dat
What the f+_k is it about the human race that makes it consistently, systematically, mutilate the genitalia of infant humans and castrate animals.
"Let's move on, shall we?"
Mid Hitchslap? I don't think so.
Ric Hoddinott
The funny thing is that Christopher has been guilty of the same crime he accuses the rabbi of. He highly enjoyed his “no child’s behind left” quip despite the fact he was making light of child rape. In all honesty, it seems as though he got a bit angry that someone made a witty joke that wasn’t him.
Colin Campbell Not while defending paedophilia.
LivingInTheCloud
Was the rabbi doing that?
Proud father of two sons, 10 and 5 years old. Never had them circumcised despite social pressure. Never gave a flying shit about what they say or feel. I always told them my sons have the choice in this matter, I don't. If they want, they are free to get it done when they're grown up. I won't do it for them. And I live in the country that starts with P. Borders with India.
M K good on you sir
Witnessing the circumcision of my son could very well be the first reason i started to question and gradually lose my religion ,animal sacrifice was another sick practice how i wish now that i could go back and undo these criminal acts.
Let's give thanks to the single mothers and parents who understand the benefits of male circumcision and that the child will appreciate those benefits throughout their life. Parents who have taken the time to educate themselves on circumcision have found it to:
Decreases the risk of urinary tract infections in infancy.
Decreases the risk of penile cancer.
Decreases risk of sexually transmitted diseases, including female-to-male transmission of HIV.
Decreases the risk of cervical cancer and some infections in female partners.
Prevents balanitis, balanoposthitis, paraphimosis, and phimosis.
Makes it easier to maintain good genital hygiene.
Makes it easier in nursing care when old.
Decrease in health coverage cost
Several surveys and studies have shown that in addition to the substantial health benefits of male circumcision, there are also sexual benefits including a greater physical appeal to women.
In a survey where women were asked to rate their preferences when it came to different forms of sexual activity, a substantial majority of women overwhelmingly preferred men who were circumcised; for intercourse, 71 percent preferred circumcised men while only 6 percent said they preferred uncircumcised men; for fellatio, 82 percent said they preferred a circumcised penis while 2 percent said they preferred an uncircumcised partner; and for manual stimulation, 75 percent favored circumcised partners compared with 5 percent who reported a preference for uncircumcised men.
In addition, 76 percent said circumcised penises were more attractive while only 4 percent said they preferred the look of an uncircumcised penis; a whopping 90 percent said the circumcised penis looked “sexier;” 85 percent said it felt nicer to the touch; and 92 percent said they felt it was cleaner.
Even women who had never had a circumcised partner said they preferred the way a circumcised penis looks.
An Australian study found that women whose partners were circumcised were much more likely to have orgasms, as well as more likely to have simultaneous orgasms.
@@jonathonrobinson7236 hey buddy the only thing worse than no information is the wrong information.... people like you sell your sick practices by justifying it with this sort of crap "studies" that you brainwash the innocent .... shame! Shame ! Shame ! On you and all those like you who promote your sick practices of genital mutilation on babies in the name of cruel religious practices or otherwise..
All those things you wrote in those chapters of your comments in your reply ..are as false as the people who promote them .. educate yourself properly from valid sources before you open your mouth to spread false information..it's time to stop the promoters of genital mutilation like we stopped slavery...
Produce the "surveys and studies" you claim and i will show you who's butt it was pulled out of.. shame! On you...
Having just finished “Letters To A Young Contrarian”, I am more ecstatic whenever I see Hitchens confront an issue he sees to be pertinent no matter how unpopular his side is. Many people will cower and bow to the consensus or stay silent in the face of it, but Hitchens would never and the world is better for it. Many people promote “negative peace”, but Hitchens was one of the few to promote “positive peace”.
“Don’t take refuge in the false security of consensus and the feeling that whatever you think, you’re bound to be OK because you’re in the safely moral majority.”
“Never be a spectator to unfairness or stupidity. Seek out argument and disputation for their own sake; the grave will supply plenty of time for silence.”
“Do not armour yourself in the safety of consensus - consensus may change and you may find yourself naked.”
Dammit, Hitchens has convinced me. I want my foreskin back!
Blasted Heath your profile picture goes perfect with your comment 😂
SFYL
Blasted Heath 😭😭😭😭
Look up foregen and foreskin restoration
Sue your parents for damages .
One of the greatest minds and thinkers of our time - Christopher Hitchens.
Homage to Mr Hitchens. A great human being.
What brilliant way to argue. Painfully honest. This man, this piece is an absolute gem. God bless him.
God?
I love the hitchslap at work bravo
Wow. Around 6 mins in what a smack-down and an exposure of this man’s hypocrisy when it comes to GM. Great point and RIP Christopher
Brilliant man.
As far as circumcision is concerned, rarely does anyone mention how it DEPRIVES WOMEN of so much pleasure. It's always about the man and his loss of pleasure.
It’s like one of my favourite songs I have to listen to at least once a week. Golden Hitchslap
Although I myself have been circumcised I 100% agree with Christopher..... in my case when I was 6 I had the operation due to foreskin being to tight, the only thing I remember is the excruciating pain in the weeks after the operation and to force a child to have this procedure unnecessarily is disgusting and barbaric!!
I remember nothing. Infants don't even know they're alive, much less in pain.
What a brilliant, fearless and unique individual. He is missed.
"Genital mutilation is no joke!"
Theodore Bugsby
The funny thing is that Christopher has been guilty of the same crime he accuses the rabbi of. He highly enjoyed his “no child’s behind left” quip despite the fact he was making light of child rape. In all honesty, it seems as though he got a bit angry that someone made a witty joke that wasn’t him.
@@colin-campbell Quite an accusation to make trying to prove the unprovable. First, Mr Hitchens only pointed to the rabbi of making a joke based on an insidious crime the jewish faith commits daily with no remorse.
Second, if Mr Hitchens was ever accused of such crime it never made it to the courts, it might have only landed on the lap of tabloids.
Third, do you really believe that a person such as Christopher H. would be jealous of not being the first to make such a cheap joke?
Fourth, Brits still can not forgive Christopher Hitchens for claiming citizenship from another country instead of england.
Lastly, I will quote something still relevant from the man you are trying to smear: "Religion poisons everything"
Good day, Sir!
@@theodorebugsby3045
“In the very recent past, we have seen the Church of Rome befouled by its complicity with the unpardonable sin of child rape, or, as it might be phrased in Latin form, "no child's behind left.”
― Christopher Hitchens, God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything
@@theodorebugsby3045 Hello 911, yes I've just witnessed a murder - Colin Campbell just destroyed Theodore Bugsby.
So, you are now being given yourself the credit to mend your own mistake. You see? Reasoning prevails over superstition.
It's tragic that in many hospitals in the US and around the world hospitals have an opt out policy towards male circumcision.
So the mother must opt out or it will be done emediatly.
I'm so grateful that my mother didn't put me through this medieval procedure.
There is no real discussion to be had here. No one has a right to cut off bits from any other human without that individuals express consent. If the kid gets to 18 and wants it off, by all means. The argument that it makes the penis easier to clean is embarrassingly easy to counter .For one thing, all you need to do is pull the skin back and wash with water. Pretty basic. Secondly we all know its much more difficult for women to wash their genitals than it is for men. Why aren't we cutting their bits off? - No pro circumsion psychopath can answer this. Unblievable that this is still standard practice in America. Sad to hear some people say the unmutilated penis is ugly. How brainwashed can a person be.
+St3v3z Since diabetics are prone to circulatory problems, we should go ahead and cut off all their extremities to head off possible infections! Hell, might as well rip out everyone's adult teeth as soon as they grow in, and replace them with dentures that will never hurt or need to be operated on! The logic just saves us so many problems!
ExternalTooth I personally cut boobs (both male and female) off on sight to save people from breast cancer. Some say I am a hero, others, a psychopath.
St3v3z The ill-speakers are just jealous of your genius preventive measures.
ExternalTooth Indeed I thought thusly as I was being insulted by a rude old woman as I causally sawed away at her left bresticle. Its almost as if she thought I didn't have the right to remove any random piece of her person that I deemed surplus. Weird.
St3v3z Well, you see, the key is ensuring that she doesn't remember it happening. That's one of the keystone arguments for the removal of body parts from a person without his/her consent. So long as you sedate her such that she won't remember the process of losing her breast, it's totally fine!
On a side note, you could pretty much make the rape of a drugged woman acceptable, as well. As long as she's sedated so that she can't remember the trauma, and assuming you use protection so that it's *unlikely* that she'll have side effects, then what's the problem? The same argument is used for circumcision, because death or permanent injuries resulting from the procedure are *unlikely*.
It's wild how he was alive when this clip came out, the start of UA-cam's popularity really.
This video just made me fall in love with Hitchens.
Christopher Hitchens on circumcision, well said! Bravo!
Yes I totally agree on that circumcision thing, it's mutilation.
Thank God that didn't happen to me or my son.🙏
Gotta love how the first place the rabbi goes is money.
Hitchens, Absolutely Fantastic !!! 'Crucified' the other lot with Ease. Superb !!!
"I was asked to write book x."
"I responded with 'who would buy it'?"
Do I even need to point it out?
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Never trust anyone wearing funny hats.
Hitch didn't miss a beat . I missed him in his prime but I have some of his books . Shytt I wish Hitch was here now September 2022 . We need another Hitch pronto
Leave children alone sickos.
5:58 - and Hitchslap in 3...2....1....POW!
And he said it right to their disgusting faces. A true hero.
God bless you Mr Hitchens!
.. this is why Hitchens won’t ever be forgotten
I’d much rather a hair cut, than getting the top of my nob cut off, I’m so glad I wasn’t mutilated as a baby.
They don't cut the "top of the knob" off
@@rodneyperry6942 Do you actually think he didn't know that? People exaggerate to get points across
@ALANSHEARERISGOD is he on Insta? We can slide in his DM's real quick
@ALANSHEARERISGOD We live in a cold world haha
Funny thread this one!😂
So the Lord they say is perfect...yet he makes us imperfect so as to need circumcision. Made in God's image? Who circumcised God?
@Pomfromoz , Thanks , but I kind of was going for the "Best Answer Award". I am checking my Bible looking for the guy who sliced and craved up The Lord's Pickle.
And for the record the Lord wanted his prayers to end with the phrase "Ahh-men" not Amen.
God has no dick
Stop referring to your God as a male
@@kathyheitchue2022 , Well Kathy let me explain : 1- The Bible refers to him as the Heavenly father. 2- Jesus on the cross said " Forgive them father for they know not what they do. " And so many times they (the Bible) refer to God as a male. 3- As an Atheist I would say why does God need a gender. So do I think God is a male? Nope. I apologize if you're not a Christian.
@@Reason1717 God is referred to as father because the Bible was written by males,whom did not consider women as human
Veterinarians stopped the cropping of dogs ears, the Declawing of cats. Humans are animals, and we commit these atrocities against our babies.Tribalism will be the undoing of us all.
Moderator seems to want to break up a perfectly good debate
For me, the joy of this is the crushing silence of the audience members, mostly women, who had whooped and clapped the rabbi's ill judged attempt at humour.
Every medical procedure done to a child without medical necessity should be a crime. Why don't those crazy fuckers do it to their kids when they are 16 or 18? Because it is so much easier to mutilate a baby that can't say no.
@Golden Knight please hurry up and go your own way already.
@HandyMan101 You mean when useless men get out of the way of everyone else who actually contributes more than bitching and violence stemming from self hatred, insecurity, and ignorance regardless of sex/gender? I actively strive for and look forward to it. Your threat is not a threat. It is what the rest of us men and women hope for every day
Women often love to laugh when there is a story in the news about some guy getting his manhood chopped by angry ex partners etc, no surprise they get tittlated by circumcision. The even seem to be more in favour of dog castration. LEAVE OUR MALE PARTS ALONE!
They do it to girls too .
The were four lads at my C of E grammar school who formed a pop group and call themselves The Four Skinners. I miss Hitchens.
Guys a legend
Hitchens simply has the true guts to call things by their real name and smash it right in their stupid face, where it belongs.
These two to the right should be in the psychology books in every high school as perfect example of narcissism. Such a people should never be in position of power- especially political power.
He's absolutely right about the trauma not to mention the race memory trauma that we all suffer from, at 6 months old you got to deal with that.
Hitchens has always been a fierce opponent in any debate.
Disgusting what the rabbi said. Support body integrity
Hear hear Chris. Well said. Its the first sign of arrogance , to defend the indifencable.
Oh ! No , I mean unchallenged idiocy !!!!
They sound so highly educated, full of experience, knowledge, and then Christopher Hitchens speaks!
No BS with Hitch.
Hitchings as usual is spot on in his analysis. In this age of reason this medieval religion sanctioned child abuse must stop. Moreover, the laws of all countries should criminalize these practices. Its perfectly ok for people to practice their own religion but it has no right inflict abuse onto the defenseless infants. As Hitch said "For Shame , For Shame"
I would personally kill anybody who tried to stop me from circumcising my child. And I am anything but a violent person.
@@bigshmooz610 "I would personally kill anybody me from circumcising my child" "I am anything but a violent person." These statements seem to contradict one another.
I love how the rabbi immediately reframes the question 00:04... why can't people directly answer questions anymore?
The body of the child is of the child, not of the parents. The individual child should be the one who determines whether mutilation for religious reasons is acceptable at such an age that he can reasonably be expected to make that decision under his own belief rather than under the pressure of the parents.
I find it disgusting that western countries have yet to create laws protecting children from the religion of their parents, resulting in genital mutilation of infants who will thus never have a say in the status of their own bodies.
Man, I just miss CH!!!!
Circumcision is so painful you’ll go blank and numb. It may also be said that a child will cry more when you take a away a toy. Even if it wasn’t painful, you have taken away nerve endings responsible for a more comprehensive physical experience and mental and physical understanding of something at the core of humanity. it’s not like piercing a child’s ears in service of culture, which is still stupid. The ears still retina rain their capacity for feeling. But it would be a religious person who, in service of religion would say, my child cried more at his haircut then when I ruptured his left eardrum and made him deaf, because scripture says everyone should lend their left ear to the lord.
Go on Hitchens! The Rabi is like a dear in the headlights
Dear me.
Dear Lawd …
If any so called God(s) intended circumcision don't you think we'd already be born that way. wtf
WoW , quite so.....but yes if there was a god....
What the fuck are you supposed to do with the umbilical cord then...
Also, yes there is no God
Hiloha'homa that’s because God probably isn’t
real
David Dadswell Hahahahha I was like wait..... oh ok lol
I truly miss you Christopher
2.(though rare), intermediate complications & long term complications. The foreskin is highly innervated and erogenous (specialized nerve receptors are more refined then those found in the glans). Every unnecessary circumcision of a child is a failure since it always prevents the normal functioning of the penis. There are now many studies that show that circumcision can cause sexual dissatisfaction for both the male and the female partner and also cause sexual dysfunction for the male.
The religious leaders all came to make self-comforting, bland comments about life and Hitchens came for a fight. I miss that old man.
Let's remember that circumcision at an age where you cannot consent and/or understand the procedure may be a viable base for psychological issues down the line.
I applaud him for calling a religious leader a disgusting cancer to society directly to his face and in front of an audience!
As the recipient of a botched "circumcision" at 2 days old, and now into my 40s and dealing with all the problems it's caused me, I'm thankful for anyone of influence with the nerve to speak up about this crime against males.
Sorry to hear this mate.
Where's the my body, my choice here.
@@maxzzyzx8038 what lol
@@ChillAssTurtle WTF you think. Not funny
@@ChillAssTurtle They’re right. Why doesn’t that crowd say that to circumcision. Oh wait they’re a bunch of h and o and e words and think one that is cut looks better
I miss this guy so much. Circumcision IS mutilation, and don't let anyone gaslight you into thinking otherwise.
Absolutely! And it stems from the mind of man. Everything does.
I’m Circumcised and my wife loves it. No cheese 🧀 down there’ 👍👍
@@beagleman123456789 That's cool and all, but did you choose it for yourself as an adult? That's all that really matters.
@@beagleman123456789ok but should we be doing it to 8 day olds
@@beagleman123456789 Yea and millions of people who don't practise mutilation of their genitalia around the world don't have "cheese down there" unless you are a pig who don't wash your body. And if you are such a pig who do not wash, your genitalia is the least of your problems.
Everybody gets REAL uncomfortable and awkward when the actual truth comes out.
Moderator: "Let's move on"
Preacher: "Yes, let's"
Hitchens: "Hold my scotch..."
The moderator was very poor and cowardly....Hitchens was spot on when he said "remember we are not talking detail here"....referring to the Rabbi's weak personal examples and experiences, as part of his flimsy argument...it was just getting interesting, take on Hitchens at your own peril
@jeff Is that you Rabbi?
God this whole "Hold my" thing is sooooo played out. Please stop with that shit. EVERYONE!
@jeff Citation needed!! I'm calling bullshit on your comment. Also, your religious bias is clear as day. You are a religious fanatic no doubt, and as such you have no qualms lying to protect your faith. Feckbucket!
Pathetic creationists
It doesn’t matter how much a child cries or doesn’t cry with genital mutilation Rabbi! it is the permanent altering of another human being without consent.
What about parents who pierce their children's ears?
@@reneedermott5244 that isnt permanent mutilation of a body part genius
Also in most cases it is shown boys who do not cry only refrain because they go into shock
@@reneedermott5244 Piercing the ears of little girls is a questionable practice too.
Yet piercing an earlobe is nothing in comparison with removing the whole prepuce, which contains about half of nerve endings in the penis.
renee dermott That’s bad too. Not as bad as genital mutilation, obviously, but I can’t stand seeing babies and toddlers with piercings.
I didn't consent to having my penis mutilated. I can at least find a little bit of comfort knowing that the intelligent and well spoken Christopher Hitchens shares my views on circumcision. It's too bad he isn't alive to fight this crap anymore.
im glad i got colonized
@@ProgressivesRgayok?
Ultimately whether it's painful or not doesn't matter, mutilating another human being's body without their consent is repugnant and should not be done.
Very true. And it *is* painful.
@@bogusmcbogus2637I got off somewhat lucky. Mine was clean and wasn't botched. I still wish I had a fully functioning penis, but I still feel and enjoy orgasms.
Mutilating implies harmful though right?
@@joelmacinnes2391 No, it doesn't.
@@OpenCorridor-en3ox Not an implication , one would hope.
Christopher did not go after him; the rabbi impaled himself on Christopher's sword of reason.
Imagine saying _"I'm a Sagittarian and demand the right to cut my own son's genitalia"_ - you'd be behind bars before you got to the end of the sentence. Simply exchange "Sagittarian" for "Rabbi" and you'll be speaking at public events and worshipped wherever you go instead. *Religion poisons everything.*
That digusting rabbi made a joke outta himself in a span of minutes.
who tf is god?@@TonyEnglandUK
wtf are you asking me for, I'm not religious
just testing you mate. you passed with flying colours..@@TonyEnglandUK
Genital mutilation is no joke. Well said by Chris Hitchens. He put Rabbi Harold Kushner in his place.
i known why it's done but only hippies entertain the idea, joe rogan talks about it and hit the nail but he doesn't know the reason
And The Jewish people, Muslims, and anyone with a sensible mind, will continue engaging in circumcision anyways. No matter how persuasive the argument is on the other side.
I was circumcised and I wish I wasn’t. I never had the chance to make the choice myself.
That’s why they get you earlier bruh so you won’t second guess it
You have my sympathy. Circumcision is like religion itself. You have to inflict it on kids before they have a chance to choose against it.
Same 😭
I hate circumcision with a passion, and I wish that it had never been invented. It is a horrible and discriminatory act
I was circumcised at birth (not for religious reasons) & I would happily have it again in my next life. 👻
I was hospitalised many decades ago. Across the ward opposite my post-op bed was a small boy. He screamed and screamed day and night off and on. One night his parents attended his bedside, along with a number of nursing staff and a doctor. The parents stood back in the semi-darkened ward. They left and the curtain was pulled around the bed. Very late at night the boy was removed from the ward. There was no more screaming. A very distressed nurse the following day informed me the boy had died and that it was a circumcision gone wrong. The boy was four years old, she said. That memory burned itself into my mind and has never left me. My brother and I were circumcised early in our infancy and we have both had problems throughout our lives. Both of us were circumcised for religious reasons. I despised both of my parents for what they had done to us - for their God.
I am sorry for what you had to go through.
@@AbdulQadeer-kf3vo Doctors are humans. Even doctors make errors. Just avoiding the whole process altogether would've saved a life
Do you hate your parents as much as Hitler hated those he believed to be inferior?
@@georgepierson4920 Why even ask him that question? Pointless!
@@AbdulQadeer-kf3vo Yes, but it is still a pointless religious procedure. Let the person decide what to do with their penis later in life.
Infant and childhood circumcision is a disgusting act. I don't care what anyone's reasoning is.
Zachary Weber yeah? And what’s your stance on abortion?
Mainly because there is no reasoning for defending such barbarism; only faith.
the foreskin contains 70% of male pleasure, 60% of american men are neonatally circumcised at birth, while only 0.01% of uk men are neonatally circumcised
@@s0la.scr1ptura You're not actually stupid enough to draw parallels between abortion and circumcision right? In what delusional mind state do you have to be in to see a conflict between a mothers right to terminate a pregnancy, and a humans right to not have their genitals necessarily mutilated against their will during a period of defenselessness at the whim of the parents.
Abortion is a right of the female
Intact genitals is the right of the child.
If you didn't realize it by now, females are protected by law from having their genitals cut up. Must be nice to have a legal system protecting you from abuse.
@@CircmcisionIsChi1dAbus3 Involuntary amputation of the prepuce in males and females is similar mutilation. The female prepuce is much smaller than the male prepuce. Because a smaller amount of tissue is removed, does that mean it is not as bad?
A fetus can be either male or female. If an adult woman is pregnant, does her right to an abortion extend equally to a fetus of either sex? Is the woman's right to abort a pregnancy solely the right of the pregnant woman? Does the sex of the fetus affect the right of the woman carrying it to abort her pregnancy? For example if a pregnant woman wants to abort only those pregnancies where the fetus is female, and carry all male fetuses to term, does the pregnant adult woman have the right to do that?
The "circumcision for hygiene" argument is like having a surgical procedure to entirely remove all of your fingernails so that you don't get them dirty instead of cleaning underneath the nail and trimming them since they grow continuously.
in some regions of the world there are hygiene issues, due to of a lack of water. That's where this tradition comes from. And even though most men in these countries are circumcized, they have higher rates of infections of their penis today than developed countries with easy access to hygiene. The Jews originated from a desert 6000 years ago. It's necessity depends on where you live
@@pikapi6993 It's not necessary today though. So it's outdated middle eastern "hygiene" cultural practices. Today, it's just torture and mutilation.
Well said
Circumcision IS like trimming the nails 😅
@@pikapi6993an interesting point. A very interesting point indeed
Circumcision of a minor not for medical reasons should be outlawed.
There's no medical reason either, phimosis can be corrected with a few small incisions.
There's no medical reason either, phimosis can be corrected with a few small incisions.
There's no medical reason either, for those with too tight foreskin it can be corrected with a few small incisions.
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Lol, that’s been tried throughout History. Stop being a tyrant and let religious people live their lives.