Technical Tuesday - Mounting an optic on your Shadow Systems pistol
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- Опубліковано 30 тра 2022
- Hey everyone! Check out our video and watch us mount it first person. There are some important steps NOT to miss and some comments on the screws we use. Trevor also accidentally eats blue Loctite. Thanks for watching!
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THANK YOU!! Awesome video tutorial! I’m just about to mount an optic and this has been SUPER informative. THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!
I mounted a Delta Point pro on my mr920 this weekend. A very easy process and the spacer really makes the optic feel really secure.
Received my HS today I ordered from SS and just installed it with this video. Thank you!!!!
Keep up the good work! I find all the videos very helpful with the steps buy steps!
So glad I became a part of the Shadow Systems family today I purchased an xr920 Foundation today.
Would like to see a video of breaking down the gun for cleaning and maintenance. I know people have made glock videos but I think it would be nice to see a breakdown from the manufacturer.
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Finally got my MR920 elite outta layaway and put the first 500 rounds thru it, I’m impressed . It shoots very nice. Shoots very flat and easy to get back on target, the grip stippling is perfect and the sights are fantastic. Tried the different grips and the medium one works best for me. Almost took off my 407C off my fn 509c but I decided to order the 507C with ACSS reticle.
Just bought one myself my first fire arm did it come already oiled or do I need to clean and oil it myself before shooting
Just ordered one of these for my mr920. Great optic and better pistol
Everytime you make a video I can just imagine the amount of times y’all explain it. Now that you have made a second video I’m really starting to worry about mankind in general..
It’s like people don’t think instruction manuals Have the instructions?!
Another good video!
I've got the MR920 Elite with bronze barrel in fde I love it and fde is my favorite color.
How do you tell which spacer is which? Have a CR920 and the table shows a plus sign is needed to mount a Holosun, and the other spacer is identified by a plus sign inside a circle but the spacers are almost identical . One spacer has a plus sing inside a depressed circle on the bottom of it and the other one just has the depressed circle molded into the bottom of it. I assume the one without the plus sign is the one needed for mounting the Holosun
What is the correct hardware/set-up for the new enclosed HE509 ACSS Vulcan? Love my Delta Romeo 920 but NEED that optic on it!!
Hey Trevor!
I just got a CR920. While installing the optics, I found the smaller screw (the one that comes with the cover plate from factory) the best fit. Is any problem with that?
Thanks!! And congrats for the awesome guns! God bless TEXAS!
Tony
Any chance you could do a how-to on mounting an enclosed emitter optic?
Hope to see an Acro demonstration one day
Will the new Trijicon RCR mount with their 6-32 capstan screws ?
Thank you.
I’d like to see an install of a Holosun 509 ACSS Vulcan
What spacer and screws would I use to mount a cyelee ct2 green dot? It states that's it's an rmr footprint.
Ok, so I just installed a 508Tx2 on an XR920 and I remembered watching this video a couple of months back and remembering it should feel snug. Mine isn't snug at all, it's not loose but it definitely isn't "wedging" itself between the optic and the rear of the slide when I put the optic in place. I can easily move the optic around when it's placed on the slide. The spacer doesn't move or rattle either when the optic is mounted, so I'm hoping the screws will be enough to hold it in place. Any chance the tolerances are different on the 508T because it's made out of Titanium? Would like to get an updated spacer if it eventually becomes available 🤞
Hey! It’s true that Holosun tolerances do seem to vary more than other brands. At the same time, the spacer doesn’t need to be smashed, just not loose. The idea is just to take the spacing to zero, so unless something feels like it wiggles, you should be good to go. Be sure you follow the steps on the Loctite. Let us know if there are issues in the future. Trevor
I have a trijicon sro on my mr918 could screw size be making mine not be able to rack the slide and the cartridge eject? It will shoot and eject but can't rack one through it it will hold onto the shell
Ok I’m New to buying guns just ordered an mr920 does it come already oiled and ready or do I need to clean it and oil before using it for a first time
so what if I just did the same build but the spacer didnt make it feel tight as stated around 4 minmark?
On the guide for the MR920 it says there is no spacer available for the Holosun 507k...does it not need it or is there going to be a gap? I could not find a video of the 507k on an MR920. Thanks in advance for any help!
I have the same question. I have a 507k that I transferred from my Hellcat Pro to my DR920. I have gaps in front and behind. Curious if the screws will shear off since no additional support in front or behind
Does the DR920 FS work with the Holosun EPS red dot?
Do I have to use a inch pound torque? Or can I just snug both sides and put the blue Loctite on it
Hey what happened to 6/14’s Technical Tuesday?!? 🤣🤣 … on an unrelated note just had a great experience w/the orders department resolving a recent purchase of the blacked out optic. I didn’t catch her name but wanted to shout out the department/excellent service received.
It’s still Tuesday! And thanks for the feedback-will be sure to share with the team!
Where can the blacked out holosun be purchased
Is the shadow system xr920 a 4 post mount for optics?
The 508t has a small gap in front of the optic with the spacer installed Is that normal ?
Hey Trevor, just picked up a CR290 and was seeing if you have a recommendation on what Holosun optic would be best? Was looking at the SCS but they don't have one out for the CR290 yet, so seeing which one you'd recommend that would fit flush.
The SCS is for Glock only. You can use the 407k,507k or the new eps carry once released.
I thought the Holosun 507K was pretty slick....Trevor
Do I use the same screws for an EPS
Will the Holosun SCS fit on a SS?
Going to mount an optic on my cr920. What screw driver is needed for the optics plate on the cr920? Thanks
T10 Torx key is used for the mounting screws. Trevor
I have the same exact set up but there’s some obvious space in front of the optic so it didn’t snap in like that. Is that normal? Using correct spacer and screws.
The main concern is that the sight is tight between the screws and the spacer. A little big of space on the opposite technically would not matter. Trevor
Light reading….humble brag!
What's the best way to clean the screws of thread locker during annual battery changes? I've had a hell of a time removing thread locker to reuse screws.
Should flake off pretty easily if you use the Loctite 243 that we recommend. Worst case, you can lightly brush the threaded section with a wire brush. Trevor
Locktite works pretty well as its own solvent. Put some fresh locktite on a bit more generously than you normally would, let is sit for a bit and then give it a hard wipe off, by unscrewing the screw inside a tightly held shop towel. Another good technique is to torch it off with heat, and then do the same unscrewing routine. Then re-apply the loctite in the usual way.
Went to install RMR using the correct screws. The screws both grab fine in one hole but neither locks down on the other. Is the threading bad in one of the holes, or could it be something else? Never fired the gun, so concerned the threads are defective in the slide. Please help!
Please email my technical team at support@shadowsystemscorp.com. For the fastest resolution, please include a description of the issue, a photo into the hole that is giving you issue, your serial number and mailing address.
Do the optic that come with this gun have a red dot ?
Would like to mount an AIMPOINT AGRO on a SHADOW SYSTEMS DR 920 would the Shadow Systems mounting system accept an AIMPOINT.
Should you put any oil between the optic and the slide? Or is it fine just being bare on bare?
No need for oil there. Trevor
Trevor would you be willing to make a video on your threaded barrel, what suppressors you recommend some sound testing.. etc.. not trying to make you guys rep or sponsor a company just curious at what would be good for the MR920 threaded barrel. Also wanted a video On recommended holsters as well. I’ve noticed because the mr920 is so sharp on the slide my T1c holster scratches off the Kydex over time when training.
Did you get the t1c holster specific for the mr920 or did you get the glock 19 one?
I cant find your pistols in Canadian stores! All sold out! Need to upgrade your quantities in Canada!
Question, in the manual it states you don't have to install in the red dot specific wedge? My thought is there's a gap now between the body of the red dot and slide whether it's at the front or the rear of the red dot. Is this ok or not? Asking for a friend since his pistol didn't come with the specific wedge he wants to mount his red dot
Hey! Good question. For any hard use, we always recommend using the spacer. They are available on our website if needed.
You can mount the optic with screws only if the locking compound is properly used but it will not be as resistant to twisting force. I’d get the spacer, if possible. Trevor
@@ShadowSystemsCorp Thank you and yes I ordered the proper wedge for the red dot I'm going to run it was something I read in the manual and thought it was interesting.
With the new EPS coming out, will Shadow Systems be working on a spacer for a 407k footprint? Is this even a good option? I don’t know. I’m very new to the pistol optic game.
Hi Bushy, do you mean a spacer for the MR/DR/XR models? There is a spacer for the CR models. We haven't tried the EPS yet. Trevor
@@ShadowSystemsCorp sorry I worded that poorly. It’s my understanding the EPS will be using the 407k footprint. I’m wondering if the DR/MR/XR will have a spacer to fill the gap that I assume will exist for the EPS optic.
He was just looking at the pictures. 😂
Are the iron sights Glock compatible?
Does the 508t x2. Fit good on there mr920 elite
My 508t x2 has a small gap in front of the optic. It's so small u can't really tell. But the 507c fits really tight.
Can I directly mount an eps carry to my war poet?
Noticed you didn't have an o-ring on the threaded barrel, is the o ring necessary?
The O-ring is only for helping the thread protector stay on during long strings of fire. Technically, not a necessity.
Trevor
"oh magnetism" XD
Which adapter plate do I use ? I bought an aimpoint acro P-2 for my mr920 elite
Unless you bought our Acro-direct cut version, that optic will not fit. The chart for what optics work with the multi-footprint optic cut can be found here: shadowsystemscorp.com/opticcut/
I emailed you guys and got a response to buy the CHPWS adapter plate. It said that it is the only that has been tested and can be recommended.
Great! My Technical Team has all the latest details-so glad they found a solution for you!
What gun guy doesn’t have a knife in his pocket 😂
My DR920E spacers did not fit the Trijicon at all. One was clearly too small, the other I had to sand about 1/32" off to get a very tight fit. There's no way it would have fit without sanding it down.
Michael, thanks for letting us know. I am not sure what could have gone wrong there. This was a regular Trijicon RMR or SRO? Trevor
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It is the RM09 model, 1moa dot
Loktite poker built into top to puncture tube
the underside of the locktite cap has a point to break the seal lol🤦♂
So I know this video is older, so you guys might not be monitoring it, but if you are, do the larger guns accept a RMSc footprint? Want a XR920P and a Holosun EPS
We do not have any guns that fit RMSc. This optic kit is for the EPS and EPSC. It still direct mounts to the slide and co-witnesses with factory iron sights. shadowsystemscorp.com/product/mr-dr-xr-eps-k-spacer-kit/
@@ShadowSystemsCorp thanks!!!
Can you make a video on how to install a Holosun 509T with the plate that comes with it or an after market plate that we are not aware of yet. Please and Thank you .
You will have to wait for them to release the proper screws to attach the 509T plate. DO NOT use the screws that came with the 509T, the are the wrong diameter and will sheer off. You will potentially get hit in the face by your own red dot… ask me how I know. Per the rep at Shadow Systems they are working on releasing the proper screws to use.
@@michaelchase1535 Thank you! I hope they release the screws soon, I teach the Red Dot classes at the Regional Academy in Colorado and I use the 509T pretty Exclusively and since I’ve switched to the Shadow Systems XR 920 of which I’m totally satisfied, I just need to attach my 509T. Will there be updates on when the screws will be released?
@@marcbrooks959 That is my understanding. Per the rep, they will make it known that the screws are available for the 509T plate. Their customer service has been great so far too.
Ive been waiting for this for years. Unfortunately they still have not made screws for the 509T which is quite surprising since its now a popular optic. I got rid of my Shadow Systems because of this reason. Now Holosun is making an enclosed emitter optic (EPS) that may work with Shadow's cut now.
It has been brought to my attention after following up, that Shadow Systems in fact will not be producing any screws for the plate but instead will direct you to a set available from Brownells.
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So the RMR does not fit on the CR920p????
No, the smaller size of the pistol would not accommodate the RMR. You can find the chart of optics that fit that model on this page about half way down: shadowsystemscorp.com/opticcut/
Bite it!!!!!😂
HONESTLY, DID YOU CHOOSE 6-40 SCREWS FOR RED DOT BECAUSE THATS WHAT SIG SAUER USES? Because they are the only ones I know that use that so wouldn’t they be know as using the strongest and you followed suit? Just making sure, we aren’t taking credit for something that someone else did lol… just had to give you guys a hard time for not offering your comp/barrel combo from CR920 by itself!? Lol
For LOCTITE, they say on their site for small screws apply to threads inside hole for screw then insert screw but if using a screw with a nut on end then add to screw itself that way you’re not drenching the project in Loctite!
My Sro sheered off after about 500 rounds so I have part of a screw in slide
Wow…screws over torqued?
This was on our gun???? Would love to hear this story if so. This would be the first case of an optic mount failure in the field in our history. Would love to know the specifics if you have time to give us a call. Trevor
Sorry for some reason I just got these responses but yes during a class in Ohio on the second day the left side of my optic somewhere around the 500 round mark my optic popped up the optic was torqued per specs which I believe was 10 or 12in lbs my local armor was able to get what was left of screw out and remount optic for me I leave for a 3 day class this Thursday the 7th so we shall see if its good
It was on a shadow xr920
Putting on a bushnell rxs 100 and none of the spacers fit near as tight as the one in this vid.
Why do you not have a knife?
Isn’t anyone concerned about how little of steel is between the front of the rear sight and the optic cut? You would think that little piece of metal under stress would just break off. The stock supporting that rear dovetail is extremely tiny!
This guy loves to hear himself talk. The screws absolutely did not come in the box, neither did they for thousands of other customers. They gave me the screw kit for the MR,DR,XR series pistols with my CR920P. Luckily, the guy at the gun shop was willing to cannibalize another CR920P box and give me that optic kit, which was also the wrong kit. Get your stuff together Shadow Systems.
Please sell SS parts like barrels and slides!
You can buy their barrels. They do not sell the slides separate anymore.
I already bought my SS but this guy not having a knife anywhere near him…..is concerning
stop gluing the cover plate. Too hard to remove the screws