The Season 6-9 arc was really good. With Rey's wife, Lenny's daughter, McCoy's prosecutorial conduct coming into question. These seasons were written much darker particularly season 8. My favorite season will always be 5 however.
I personally have a favorite episode, the one about the conspiracy of a dying convict and the Chinese government. I don't remember the season but I think it was one of the last ones (like, season 18-20).
This gets brought up in First Responder training. They'll say 'point to a single person then say 'You dial 911!' while looking them dead in the eye.' That way then won't say 'I thought someone else would call.' You single out an individual and give them direct orders so they don't crowd around fiddling their dicks while someone dies.
Actually the Kitty Genovese story has become an urban legend due to inaccurate reporting. In April 2016 the New York Times finally published: "While there was no question that the attack occurred, and that some neighbors ignored cries for help, the portrayal of 38 witnesses as fully aware and unresponsive was erroneous. The article grossly exaggerated the number of witnesses and what they had perceived. None saw the attack in its entirety. Only a few had glimpsed parts of it, or recognized the cries for help. Many thought they had heard lovers or drunks quarreling. There were two attacks, not three. And afterward, two people did call the police. A 70-year-old woman ventured out and cradled the dying victim in her arms until they arrived. Ms. Genovese died on the way to a hospital."
So, in case anyone wants spoilers: Here you go Spoilers: The detectives to some investigating and find out that Fraina worked for a Bookie that Costello (the woman who was assaulted) owed money to. However, the Bookie denies sending Farina to attack her and (after some probing) they learn that Farina was in an entirely different neighborhood when Costello was attacked. However, in the course of their investigation they learn that, a year ago, Costello was on trial for gambling charges and that she only received probation (a very light sentence) and that she was represented by a man named Taradash. Then, they learn that Munoz (the man who was convicted for assaulting Costello) was also represented by Taradash at that trial, which is a massive conflict of interest. The Prosecutors talk to the Judge who oversaw that trial and he admits that Taradash did tell him about his preexisting relationship with Costello, but he didn't think that it was a big deal. Now, this, in and of itself, is not a big issue, but it becomes a big issue when no one can find any evidence that Munoz signed a waiver allowing Taradash to represent him in court (the judge admits that he never actually saw the waiver himself). So now there's a massive issue with the case, and a defense attorney is able to get Munoz's verdict set aside and the case is reopened. She argues that because Taradash, Costello, and the judge all knew about Taradash's prior relationship with Costello, it constitutes conspiracy. Munoz denies having any knowledge of a prior relationship between Taradash and Costello. However, because Munoz has access to Taradash's files concerning his case, it's entirely possible that he could have removed the waiver and thrown it in the trash. Unfortunately, Taradash is dead so they can't ask him whether or not the informed Munoz about his prior relationship with Costello. They find a former Parallegal named Klien who worked for Taradash and ask her, and she testifies that Taradash told her that Taradash informed Munoz about his relationship with Costello and Munoz said he didn't care. However, her testimony is ruled inadmissible because she was not actually present for this conversation. In the end, the defense attorney is able to poke a bunch of holes in the case. Not only was there the conflict of interest, but there were other irregularities in the case. For example, Munoz (a puerto rican) was convicted by an all-white Judy (not an uncommon thing in 1965, but something that looks bad in light of all the other stuff going on). It's also asked why, even though Munoz confessed without being read his Miranda Rights, Taradash never attempted to have it stricken from the record. Klien says that Taradash let it stand as part of an attempted insanity defense... which the defense argues is "An effective strategy. If he wanted his client convicted." McCoy argues that Mirands Rights didn't become a thing until 1966 and as such, the don;t apply to Munoz's case as he was convicted in 1965. The defense argues that, because the Case which established Miranda Rights as a thing was filed before Munoz's trial, Taradash should have moved to delay proceedings until a verdict was reached in that case. Again not in and of itself, a big deal, but it's another thing that looks very bad in light of the apparently undisclosed conflict of interest. Later, it's also discovered that Costello was pregnant when she was attacked and that Farina was the father of the baby. This gives Farina motive to attack her, and Costello is put on the stand and is asked shy she never mentioned Farina in her previous testimony in 1965. She confesses that she was scared of him and what he might do to her if she brought him up. In the end, it's ruled that Munoz was convicted on insufficient evidence and his verdict is overturned. However, it's implied that he truly is guilty. The prosecutors conclude that this happened because The defense Attorney was just doing her job and the Prosecution back in 1965 didn't do theirs properly. The Case was old, and the evidence was bad. And the fact that the Judge kept ruling against them didn't help their case either.
@KhaosN7 • If this were a school assignment, you would get an A++. Thanks for taking the trouble to give us non-TV owners who are too broke to afford streaming or DVDs the outcome. 👍🥇
I recently read this and I was full of indignant outrage. So when my neighbor and her children were being attacked on various occasions I tried calling the police several times. Nothing I did mattered because she refused to leave the abuser and I became a nuisance. Afterwards I understood why people chose to stay out of other people's business. Getting involved usually just ends badly for the person trying to help. Still, given the choice I'd rather try to help than not help. 😢
I hate this episode. It isn't as bad as Damaged but it disgusts me. I really like the episode Jeopardy. Season 6 episode 4. Where an Old Money matriarch bribes a Judge who is of course an Old Friend of Adam Schiff's.
Season 6 has some great episodes: Trophy, Deceit, Hot Pursuit, and of course, Pro Se and Aftershock, which are two of the Top 10 episodes of the show's 21-season run
Anyone else kinda wince at Rey’s word choice when he said during the witness interview, “Naw, you’re cooked, Danny-we got your prints on the box of matches”, especially as it was arson, and a fella *did* sadly get “cooked”?
Have you seen La Mission? Directed by his brother, he plays an alcoholic bus driver in San Francisco wrestling with his compulsive machismo to accept his son.
All I'm remembering is Anita Gillette, heartbreakingly tough as the survivor of the attack and Talia Balsam as a gritty people's lawyer who may be protecting the actual perpetrator; she with the moral quandary of protecting her client. Somewhere in Ms. Gillette's character's story is her dad - either semi culpable or something. That's probably frustratingly vague.... 🌸
Farina is playing dumb. He had an affair with the victim and she was pregnant when she was attacked. As the cop's investigate the new allegation, they tip off Munoz's (the man who was convicted in 1965) new lawyer that there were irregularities with the original prosecution. She does some digging herself and succeeds in getting the verdict set aside and a new trial set up. Despite McCoy's confidence, she succeeds in poking a bunch of holes in the original police work, prosecution and defence. The new jury finds Munoz not guilty and he's released from prison. The impression you're left with is that he was truly guilty, despite the new verdict.
WOW!! KhaosN7: Thank you so much for your detailed synopsis regarding this classic episode. I felt as if i was actually following along watching as you outlined it.. 😊 I agree with the if this were a school assignment comment from earlier... Definitely an A++
The Season 6-9 arc was really good. With Rey's wife, Lenny's daughter, McCoy's prosecutorial conduct coming into question. These seasons were written much darker particularly season 8. My favorite season will always be 5 however.
Thanks for your camaradic insights.... 🕯
I personally have a favorite episode, the one about the conspiracy of a dying convict and the Chinese government. I don't remember the season but I think it was one of the last ones (like, season 18-20).
I miss the old days, when Detective Ray Curtis and Lennie Briscoe, used to work together 😀
me too!
I love them....🌼
logan and briscoe for me. 2nd best pair was lupo and bernard. green and fontana 3rd....
This is based on a true story. And FYI, the killer died in jail years ago
kitty Genovese
@@LeighMet thanks for the name.
@@LeighMet yah that's the name
This gets brought up in First Responder training. They'll say 'point to a single person then say 'You dial 911!' while looking them dead in the eye.' That way then won't say 'I thought someone else would call.' You single out an individual and give them direct orders so they don't crowd around fiddling their dicks while someone dies.
Actually the Kitty Genovese story has become an urban legend due to inaccurate reporting. In April 2016 the New York Times finally published: "While there was no question that the attack occurred, and that some neighbors ignored cries for help, the portrayal of 38 witnesses as fully aware and unresponsive was erroneous. The article grossly exaggerated the number of witnesses and what they had perceived. None saw the attack in its entirety. Only a few had glimpsed parts of it, or recognized the cries for help. Many thought they had heard lovers or drunks quarreling. There were two attacks, not three. And afterward, two people did call the police. A 70-year-old woman ventured out and cradled the dying victim in her arms until they arrived. Ms. Genovese died on the way to a hospital."
So, in case anyone wants spoilers: Here you go
Spoilers:
The detectives to some investigating and find out that Fraina worked for a Bookie that Costello (the woman who was assaulted) owed money to. However, the Bookie denies sending Farina to attack her and (after some probing) they learn that Farina was in an entirely different neighborhood when Costello was attacked. However, in the course of their investigation they learn that, a year ago, Costello was on trial for gambling charges and that she only received probation (a very light sentence) and that she was represented by a man named Taradash. Then, they learn that Munoz (the man who was convicted for assaulting Costello) was also represented by Taradash at that trial, which is a massive conflict of interest.
The Prosecutors talk to the Judge who oversaw that trial and he admits that Taradash did tell him about his preexisting relationship with Costello, but he didn't think that it was a big deal. Now, this, in and of itself, is not a big issue, but it becomes a big issue when no one can find any evidence that Munoz signed a waiver allowing Taradash to represent him in court (the judge admits that he never actually saw the waiver himself). So now there's a massive issue with the case, and a defense attorney is able to get Munoz's verdict set aside and the case is reopened. She argues that because Taradash, Costello, and the judge all knew about Taradash's prior relationship with Costello, it constitutes conspiracy. Munoz denies having any knowledge of a prior relationship between Taradash and Costello. However, because Munoz has access to Taradash's files concerning his case, it's entirely possible that he could have removed the waiver and thrown it in the trash.
Unfortunately, Taradash is dead so they can't ask him whether or not the informed Munoz about his prior relationship with Costello. They find a former Parallegal named Klien who worked for Taradash and ask her, and she testifies that Taradash told her that Taradash informed Munoz about his relationship with Costello and Munoz said he didn't care. However, her testimony is ruled inadmissible because she was not actually present for this conversation.
In the end, the defense attorney is able to poke a bunch of holes in the case. Not only was there the conflict of interest, but there were other irregularities in the case. For example, Munoz (a puerto rican) was convicted by an all-white Judy (not an uncommon thing in 1965, but something that looks bad in light of all the other stuff going on). It's also asked why, even though Munoz confessed without being read his Miranda Rights, Taradash never attempted to have it stricken from the record. Klien says that Taradash let it stand as part of an attempted insanity defense... which the defense argues is "An effective strategy. If he wanted his client convicted." McCoy argues that Mirands Rights didn't become a thing until 1966 and as such, the don;t apply to Munoz's case as he was convicted in 1965. The defense argues that, because the Case which established Miranda Rights as a thing was filed before Munoz's trial, Taradash should have moved to delay proceedings until a verdict was reached in that case. Again not in and of itself, a big deal, but it's another thing that looks very bad in light of the apparently undisclosed conflict of interest.
Later, it's also discovered that Costello was pregnant when she was attacked and that Farina was the father of the baby. This gives Farina motive to attack her, and Costello is put on the stand and is asked shy she never mentioned Farina in her previous testimony in 1965. She confesses that she was scared of him and what he might do to her if she brought him up.
In the end, it's ruled that Munoz was convicted on insufficient evidence and his verdict is overturned. However, it's implied that he truly is guilty. The prosecutors conclude that this happened because The defense Attorney was just doing her job and the Prosecution back in 1965 didn't do theirs properly. The Case was old, and the evidence was bad. And the fact that the Judge kept ruling against them didn't help their case either.
@KhaosN7 • If this were a school assignment, you would get an A++. Thanks for taking the trouble to give us non-TV owners who are too broke to afford streaming or DVDs the outcome. 👍🥇
The older episodes aren’t even on peacock 😩😩
I remember this quite well. I think in the end, Munoz is guilty of other crimes, but the attack on Cookie Costello, was definitely Bobby Farina
Thankyou! As I was reading it, thought it was going to be Taradash that did it, lol
What's you cashapp?
Schiff waxes about a case from thirty years prior. This episode aired almost thirty years ago.
Benjamin Bratt and Jerry Orbach conform to be a holy duo.
I miss this show
You know they just brought it back right?
jerry orbach .. forever
detective Briscow all his life!
*Absolutely!* Today, tomorrow..........always. ❤
🙏🏼 🕯
I'm happy that many of us remember and regret the great JERRY ORBACH ..
He was great
Is this based on Kitty Genovese? SVU did a similar episode more recently
I recently read this and I was full of indignant outrage. So when my neighbor and her children were being attacked on various occasions I tried calling the police several times. Nothing I did mattered because she refused to leave the abuser and I became a nuisance. Afterwards I understood why people chose to stay out of other people's business. Getting involved usually just ends badly for the person trying to help. Still, given the choice I'd rather try to help than not help. 😢
More season six content!!
I don't get it. Why doesn't NBC let TNT and/or A&E show these anymore? And I really miss the cross-over episodes with Homicide.
B/c syndication moved to amc networks, WETV, BBCAHD, Sundance
Me too. So much it makes me ache - there's an environment to these shows that's near to holy.
At least the current networks don't butcher the opening credits like TNT did.
I hate this episode. It isn't as bad as Damaged but it disgusts me.
I really like the episode Jeopardy. Season 6 episode 4. Where an Old Money matriarch bribes a Judge who is of course an Old Friend of Adam Schiff's.
Season 6 has some great episodes: Trophy, Deceit, Hot Pursuit, and of course, Pro Se and Aftershock, which are two of the Top 10 episodes of the show's 21-season run
What happened in this episode?
I wanna know too. What happened next?
@@g.williams2047 A lot of bad law and a bad guy got let go. And Lenny's daughter dies.
@@niqueness2988 A lot of bad law and a bad guy got let go. And Lenny's daughter dies.
When are these episodes really coming to Peacock?
Next decade? Who knows?
Probably never but only time will tell.
The video ends that is saddest thing in all of UA-cam
Not even close. There's a lot more sad content on this site than this video from Law and Order.
Anyone else kinda wince at Rey’s word choice when he said during the witness interview, “Naw, you’re cooked, Danny-we got your prints on the box of matches”, especially as it was arson, and a fella *did* sadly get “cooked”?
Rey had that effect, he had no sympathy for criminals and knew how to scare them.
He did it for effect.
Ben Bratt 🔥
Have you seen La Mission? Directed by his brother, he plays an alcoholic bus driver in San Francisco wrestling with his compulsive machismo to accept his son.
@@RebekahCurielAlessi The kind of movie that gets lost in the shuffle after playing at film festivals. Unlike Little Miss Sunshine.
That whole last paragraph kinda dissolved....
Can somebody please give me spoilers on what happens? Please
All I'm remembering is Anita Gillette, heartbreakingly tough as the survivor of the attack and Talia Balsam as a gritty people's lawyer who may be protecting the actual perpetrator; she with the moral quandary of protecting her client. Somewhere in Ms. Gillette's character's story is her dad - either semi culpable or something.
That's probably frustratingly vague....
🌸
Farina is playing dumb. He had an affair with the victim and she was pregnant when she was attacked. As the cop's investigate the new allegation, they tip off Munoz's (the man who was convicted in 1965) new lawyer that there were irregularities with the original prosecution. She does some digging herself and succeeds in getting the verdict set aside and a new trial set up. Despite McCoy's confidence, she succeeds in poking a bunch of holes in the original police work, prosecution and defence. The new jury finds Munoz not guilty and he's released from prison. The impression you're left with is that he was truly guilty, despite the new verdict.
khaosN.. posted a length spoiler above.....
how many seasons do they have of law and order on peacock tv? It was MY FAVORITE for years
Every season is easily found to stream online, no need for that shitty peacock app thats filled with ads.
Nice
THERE STUCK THERE DEAD WITH THEIR HELP AND WITHOUT IT...... DON'T BE A SNITCH IF YOU ARE EXPECT TO PAY THE PRICE.....
inpaindaily
WOW!! KhaosN7: Thank you so much for your detailed synopsis regarding this classic episode. I felt as if i was actually following along watching as you outlined it.. 😊 I agree with the if this were a school assignment comment from earlier... Definitely an A++
I don't get it. Why doesn't NBC let TNT and/or A&E show these anymore? And I really miss the cross-over episodes with Homicide.
WE TV, Sundance and BBC show them.