AMP TEST - Hifonics Brutus BRZ2400.1D - AMP LAB DYNO!
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- Опубліковано 27 гру 2014
- Testing out the BRZ2400.1D. Discovered the guts of this amp are identical to a SoundQubed SQ2200D. Will it do the 2400W its rated for? Will it even do the 2200 Watts the SQ is rated for? FIND OUT!
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And I put to rest some of the comments I received that my dummy load resistances might not be accurate and that's why Im getting these low numbers on some amplifiers.
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It didn't make the power because the voltage was too low. Anybody could figure that out. That's not the amp's fault, it's the operator's fault.
Looking forward to the 14.4v test post.
I've had this amp for 8 years now and still going strong!
9 years now💪
What subs you pushing?
@@jonathanleos7450 Kicker CVX 15. I got it the same time as the amp. They are once again about to go in another new ride. Just waiting on a new box to be delivered.
Looks like a great amp if I am being honest. I tried to find one for sell and nothing lol. Oh well. Ima see if I can get my hands on a Taramps DSP 1600.1@1ohm. They're meant for low bass which is what I want for my 10" Sundown Audio Xv2
@@fireautomeds1168 i did some hunting man. Got the same amp but in 2000.1d for $180. When I get it. I hope it works man
Dude your voltage is waaaay to low for accuracy.
Exactly...
Naw...Hifonics amp don’t make their numbers...check out all the videos of them on dyno.
I love this channel because you review amps that are mid to low level keep up the great work I would love to see more junk amps on the dyno to shut some of these people up
He's not even testing them at 14.4 volts, nothing about it is accurate 🤣
Thanks for the test because it shows what you can expect with stock electrical, but the amp would do rated if you could supply adequate power to it.
Looking forward to the q2200 amp test. I wouldn't be surprised if it did very close numbers.
Hifonics amps are one of the best bang for your buck amps PERIOD! They will do rated power if you supply them.
If any one knows anything about car audio and can do a lil math, you can guess off the top of your head what it will be with 14.4 solid. These dyno tests are great thanks for doing them.
Good Job!
I had a brutus 2400.1 for over 8 years and it was flawless. Had 3 15 re audio subs for a bit, 2 re audio 15 subs for a bit, and 1 skar audio 18 and that Amp did it all. Now after 9 years the Amp is done so.....I got a new brutus 2400 on the way. Great amp!
Thanks for doing some testing on these amps! Matrix is a newer brand of car amps, selling on ebay and walmart and even amazon, I would be interested in a test on their 4 channel amp DX1000.4 since I have found no reviews anywhere on them yet. Their prices seem good, but...
2109w for $249 is fantastic.
A maybe cheaper.
+djhaloeight dude I got the same amp just trying to buy. a Memphis mojox 12.it's suppose to hit hard.. but what type of upgrade you think I need to run my amp. what did you do ?
2k amp needs 2k battery or alt. Kinetik HC2000 or XS equivalent will do
I got a 3000amp
sir tell me hifonics brutus sound output mosfet no.
Nice video, can you test the Hifonics X1200.4? And can you tell on average what power an amp can do by just looking at the fuse (amp*volt*eff).
Got this amp today yet still haven't tried it bit hope it can push good a 12 inch kicker Q class 💯🎶
What's the best line of the new gen hifonics,I'm speaking of the ones made by maxxonics...I'm just trying to run a single sa12
Which hifonics line is the truest power and most efficient? I heard the brx but I dont know
I have the hifonics BRZ2100.1D tated a 2100rms at 1 ohm I have a feeling it's the same amp they just changed the name. I bought it in 2010 its still working what's your opinion?
Buenos días profesor, quisiera saber si podría ayudarme con la matrícula de los circuitos que vienen borrados en el módulo de audio de un amplificador Hifonics brutus brz 2100.D
Where did you get your dyno setup from ? I know the Steve Meade meter but where did you get that tower from?
I built and programmed it. Selectable resistive dummy load. Uses the same loads the AD-1 Amp Dyno uses.
Printed circuit board I got brx 1400 . 1d still does well after 8 years
Can you run it on a 14.4v setup. Hifonics states that on 14.4v you get the power rating? That's what advertised on the Hifonics Brutus BRX 1101.D I just purchased.
Does the cerwin vega brand on car amplifier any good ?
Just a heads up, I tested the new BRX2400.1D. Certified test run at 1 ohm I'm getting 1799 watts RMS. Big leap from the BRZ model.
David Haas brx and brz are just like the bxi and bre models those sre the only brutus amps made well and that do rated power. My self knows that these amps require power in order to give you good rms just like any other good amp does
So your saying the BRX is a better amp?
Can you dyno the BE 800.4 amp from this series would love to put a system together from this series
You know this amp is cea-2006. So it's rated at 14.4. You haven't ended anywhere near 14.4. When you start your test the the amp hit the best power then it doesn't go any higher Because your starving the amp for power.
Then shouldnt have hit its rated on that first burst? I started out plenty higher than 14v.
Don't worry, I'm going to have a rematch with this amp. I now have 10 XS D1400 batteries on my test bench. We will put this to rest soon.
@@TheAmpLab Yea ive ran brutus they do rates and then some
@@TheAmpLab you have voltage drop you meathead. Know what you're doing before posting youtube videos.
i study electronics but i dunno wtf is that device you measure ?? the black and dark blue one ? any way is this fit 4 speakers i have 4 speakers and supwoofer pinoeer can u help me pls
Anything over 2109 watts rated at 2400 watts is. good enough for my two 15 in. Orion Xtreme s over kill, and one of my L7 15 kicker mabey both L7s with adequate voltage?
Does the brx have the same internals as the brz? Thanks
very cool, I the bet the SQ will do better. Gotta love the SMD meters.
The SQ should by all rights do the exact same.
i have this amp in my truck. my electricals pretty boss i sit at around 14.8 drops to 14 ish full tilt. pretty cool im more than likely getting the full 2400 out of it. not that i need it only have to sundown e8's at the moment lol
these are CEA certified you have to run at 14volts to get the rated power I ran two 12inch kicker L 7s with one of these
Also, SMD tested the Brutus Elite 1700 here - ua-cam.com/video/_t7Z2T7_LB8/v-deo.html and it didn't get close to rated in certified (1% THD) or uncertified (clipping) modes. Only got rated plus a little more in dynamic mode with over 15V of input
Hey man the new 4016.1 just came out you should test that. Youll be the first nobody's done it yet
Garb , that little 249 .OO kicker you benched did 1587 @ 1 OHM that was impressive I thought
Would this amp be good for a single 12w7ae-3
Do you repair those brutus ?
you should get your power issues settled before you "test" amps
Run some tests at atleast 14.1 volts please!
where can i buy this dont want the newones
So this amp would probably be great for powering a fi Q 12 which has an RMS rating of 1500 watts. If this amp is supplying around 1400 watts at 11 volts right?
TheGoodChap woud be more at 11 volts but it might clip really hard that low
I have a Hifonics zig-2400.D can you fix it
Would like to see what the hifonics colossus would do
Can you please give me an idea of what certified vs. Uncertified rating means? And over all what's the best bang for your buck anp? I've watched a few of your videos and was impressed with the 1500w rating on the 1200w amp. I was just given two kicker 15inch dual-core 2ohm cvr subs. Not my ideal jl w7 has great bass. Your opinion is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Certified shows how much power the amp made before it hit 1% distortion. 1% is what many believe to be the audible limit. Do anything below that is inaudible distortion. So certified is perfectly clean power. Uncertified is up to clipping. This is the point where the waveform coming out of the amp no longer resembles a "wave". The amp has run out of headroom. Clipping kills sub's.
Thanks I've been on all day and watching these dyno tests and have some understanding now. Now as for the second question with the two fifteen kicker cvr 2ohm subs.... I've read over all the different configurations and am trying to discern my best approach on setting up this system. I'm on a budget and throwing them into a stock 05 Honda Accord. I've taken them out the box and they are wires parallel. I believe rms is 1000w. Any configuration info is greatly appreciated. Or best amp idea. Thanks.
david nicholas This amp would do good with your set up. If the subs are each single 2ohm follow this pic's set up. a248.e.akamai.net/pix.crutchfield.com/ca/learningcenter/car/subwoofer_wiring/2-SVC-2-ohm-mono-low-imp.jpg
The Amp Lab Any idea why amps that pass certified runs with ease sound waay louder and better than amps that do their numbers only with dynamic tests? This is a direct swap from a Shok industries shok II and a soudqubed 2200
how do I contact you for repairs
can you dyno a pioneer GM D9601 1200@ 1ohm
will you test pioneer gm-d8601
could you test the new brx 2400.1
I have exact same one had 2 12s it blown both speakers they were good speakers but recently if I turn on car the light turns green then goes straight into protection what can I do to fix it
You most likely have blown output transistors. Needs to go to a repair shop.
Can you test a memphis mcd-1000
There's a new Hifonic's amp out that replaces the brz series i was wondering if u have seen inside the new brutus brx2400. u have any thoughts on it ?, Its suppose to have better electronics and more power ? great vids man
Have not seen it yet.
Its the same freaking amp. They dont change anything other than the cosmetic chances.
Jeff DaChef From what I've seen the Hifonics Brz2400 uses a korean board and the Brx2400 supposedly uses a cheaper chinese board not sure maybe rtkota5point9 could verify
Almost had a BRX coming in, but it fell through. I will continue to look for one.
The Amp Lab I have a Hifonics brx1100.1d that powers up but doesn't have any sound output. I bought the amp brand new and I am planning on having it repaired locally but I just saw your comment that you haven't worked on this model series yet and I love your vids. I would be honored if you would like to make a video repairing this amp. Just let me know if you're interested. Thanks.
can one of you awesome amp testers do a hifonics zeus 3200.1d please not the 3216.1d ive found very curious power rating specs and would like to see the actual output
How can you call that a good test when you can't keep your voltage at 14.4 which the amp is rated at.
How do you set a amp at. 8 ohms
Hey bro i have a 3200 wat and my amp wire was rubing against something so when i took my cd player out i think it touched metal and went off. Now it want work. Thing is the 3200 watt zeuss doesent have a fuse. I had it and a hifonics brutis elite hooked up they were ran together the 500 watt is same thing. It has fuses but there fine. So? What happens when the amp wire thats exsposed touches the back of the metal cd player. What does it do to the amps. Are they fixable. And is it worth the time to fix thanks.
Its trash
hello I have a hifonics zrx2400.1D my problem is that it plays well at low volume but when it turn up the volume to just under its distortion peak, it seems to loose power and sound distorted I also have a DD-1 to set my gains correctly would you happen to know what might be causing this problem thank you
Inthink i know whats wrong with your amp. Hifonics its a piece of shit amp lol
SOBER505 turn the db down
+SOBER505 keep your signal clean( Turn off the loud )and bass down on head unit. also make sure it's a mono signal you're running and not stereo.
At any point did we learn what your power supply was capable of? I see 14.4 volts which is what every amp is rated at for CEA compliance but am curious as to the amperage capability of your power source. If it is capable of 300 amps for the duration of the test, that's good enough for me. If not, then your test may fall short from lack of power.
Also would like to know the signal source...this is important because as we all know, a subpar signal (low voltage) will fail to drive the amp sufficiently either.
Most cars are not capable of 300A either. So this test is actually more relevant to real world. CEA ratings are also only at 4-ohm. Not anything lower, so its not compatible anyways.
*comparable
Yes sir I agree BUT the person buying a 2400w RMS amp will hopefully have enough sense to upgrade the power supply rather than rely on the stock alternator/battery.
The power supply is critical to show what the amp is truly capable of. If you don't have the current, then your test means nothing because the amp was held back by the supply.
The manufacturer isn't lying if they supply the amp with 14.4V and more than enough amperage to get the rated power. That's the point.
I understand real world application but it isn't fair when it comes to a huge amp like that. EVERY single manufacturer uses the 14.4V supply on their test bench so if you want to be truthful and accurate you must also do the same.
Example: It isn't fair to test a Kicker 600w RMS amp which is also rated at 14.4V and then bash another amp that is much larger using the same exact rating method when you don't have enough power to supply that larger amp.
If the final voltage ends up being close to the same with each amplifier then it is more than fair.
What's not fair, is amplifier manufacturers rating amplifiers at 14.4 Volts
@@TheAmpLab Idiot again. What's relevant to the real world is a running car at 14 volts, which the amp is rated for to make the power advertised. Your lack of constant and consistent power closely resembles your brain functions.
i have the brz 1200.1 and damn it pushes my l7 hardddd. and boost is set to minimum.
1531 at 2 ohm?
You don't have enough voltage to run the test yet you still blame the amp for not making the rated power? Why are you wasting everybody's time if you don't know what you are doing?
They're certified at 14.4v, right? So why are we saying it falls short of its rating if it's not being tested at its rated voltage?
I have tested it at 14.4 as well on 10 XS D1400 14V batteries...still didn't do rated.
Good to know. Ever done the Hifonics ZRX616.4? I'm curious what it'll put out @ 4 ohms in 4-channel mode. It's rated 75w x 4 RMS. I decided to get it over the Rockford R300X4 Prime, which is also 75x x 4 @ 4 ohms, but about 50% higher price.
i like that you're voltage is kinda realistic on any stock electrical system... however the rated 2ohm measurement on this is not any where near what you said. it's rated 1600rms @2ohms... now if i remember that is based off of a 14.4v electrical system. the difference in your 12.9v and 14.4v is pretty significant to reach any where near that level of certified power. but in the real world, this is exactly what your average buyer or novice car audio enthusiast is going to receive from this amp. if you want to see what potential the hifonics line really holds you can check steve meade's run on these amps and see that they actually hold pretty true to their "rated" power which is 14.4v, not what you are displaying here.
you will never get close manufacturer ratings they use entirely different setup and voltage is stable at 14.4 not 13 or 12 anything less than 14.4 yields lower numbers
Not on all amps. many go well past rated power.
Clearly didn't say on all amps that amp in per say is rated at 14.4 volts
All others comply with different rules and power ratings not all are created equal
And of course if you run that at 15 volts you will get power increase all amps are built at different voltage specs some rate power at battery's lowest charge some rate it at its fullest charge. Hence why your test at 13 volts shows less rated power
can you do a test on a ZRX Zeus 3200 watt RMS one channel Hifonics amplifier need to know if that's strong enough to push a 15 inch Orion hcca 2000 Watts RMS at 1 ohm thank you and what's the difference between the Zeus the BRZ there Brutus
I believe that Zeus only has level, subsonic, bass boost and lpf. The othe models have more
can u review a zex2550.1d please
Its run 0.5 ohmns ???
I can attest to voltage drop, my Toyota has a volt gauge in the dash. When the bass hits the needle drops, at night with the headlights on they dim and the needle looks like it has Parkinson's. Even with the addition of a 2 farad capacitor, while that did help when I crank it up I still have the same issues.
mrgearheadfromhell lol
Why are you not testing at 14volts
My Brutus 2100 isn’t pushing 2100.. maybe 1400 max. It barely pushes my two sundown audio x8s
For the price its so hard to beat hifonics power. I would only buy their cea compliment models.
whats the difference with the brz, brx, be and the zrx series?? which is the best? thanks, great videos..
+mike waters
BRX - Brutus Next Gen
BRZ - Brutus
BE - Brutus Elite
ZRX - Zeus
So the BE would be the better of them?
Yes, if you can still find the Elites though..
Otherwise, I'd probably go for the Next Gen
+G6 Liara
thanks for the info.
u get a chance to dyno the sq2200 amp yet ? any results ?
I did!! Video coming soon. Just need to finish a little editing
The Amp Lab ??? : )
Its in my comparison video to the BRZ!
would like to see an amp test on the db driveA6 2800.1.
test at 1k hz which is where most are tested at anyway and see if it make a difference. the bench mark test is 1k/1w meter of thd % rate
rise yo volts
I have one pushing 4 12 in kicker L7 poor alternator though my voltage drops while I’m driving to like 11 or 10+ volts😂😂
777 watts at 12 volts at 2ohm is honestly pretty good 👍
Incredibly misleading. Test it with a 14.4 volt power supply capable of running such an amp for the duration of the test. I mean we all get it that in a 1987 Cavalier with no electrical upgrades, this amp might not make rated power. I don't even like Hifonics but know they do make rated power in a proper test.
When testing an amplifier, please be informed as to the amplifiers spec'd power. er, 2ohm ? "I forgot the amp rating at 2ohm .. "
it does rated @ 14.4v and it's been stone reliable for me
They are reliable but it still falls a little short st 14.4.
What's up u do repairs
Could you amp test the hifonics brx2400.1d
the brz is better
0.5 ohm?
I think you need the SMD amp dyno, this amp was rated to be CEA 2006 complaint for true rms power rating. Also you didn't show the final voltage for the power. If you compare to Steve Meades amp Tuesday reviews.
This uses the same loads as the amp dyno and the AMM-1 is the same method the amp dyno used to measure. This is just as accurate as the AD-1. Also, I do show the voltage after each run. It's recorded on the LCD screen on the dummy load during each run.
The Amp Lab ok, it might show the voltage and amps after each run.... BUT the voltage is super low! Basically if a 1950s VW BUG was running the amp. I honestly don't know how you don't see that all of the NEW amps are rated @ 14.4volts. However any amp that was made before 2006, (actually before '99 tbh), was usually measured at 12.8 volts with a 1kz test tone. I mean no disrespect, but you are giving false readings! Please do some research before saying things that YOU know NOTHING about... GOOD DAY SIR!
Ohh also, you don't have enough power(voltage or amperage) to ACTUALLY give fair readings on many of these amps! I find the fact that you think you can measure the capacities of many of these prized electrical amplifiers is actually a sham!!!! Next time you make a video stating the performance of any amplifier, you either do your research ch and included it in the video, or you will be shut down for LIES! The main reason I have concluded that your videos are strong with BS, is because of the fact that you don't have the equipment to accurately measure these products.
So -- from here on forthcoming, you are served with a cease and desist! Your actions are false and you have no ability to provide these products with proper operating tendencies. We wish to stop such arguments before a review of the proposed media is given false observation. We have dedicated many years to the research and development of such products, and feel that such a video gives false information about our products. Your reading at 12.8 volts is far below current standards for new readings that are required for a CES 2006 requirement of 14.4 volts.
Dalgobitches Wow. quite the response.
A: The voltage in your vehicle is never going to stay at exactly 14.4v. You are going to drop voltage. Do this is actually more ij line with the power you would actually see.
B: For quite some time now I have had 10 XS Power D1400 14V batteries to test with. Yes, TEN! The amp still did not make rated power. If it can't make rated power (when many other amps have on my bench) on 10 14V batteries (that rest around 14.7V), then there is no way it is making rated power in your, or anyone elses vehicle.
So thank you for your concern. And the cease and desist nonsense was a good laugh as well so thank you for that.
Dalgobitches Wow. quite the response.
A: The voltage in your vehicle is never going to stay at exactly 14.4v. You are going to drop voltage. Do this is actually more ij line with the power you would actually see.
B: For quite some time now I have had 10 XS Power D1400 14V batteries to test with. Yes, TEN! The amp still did not make rated power. If it can't make rated power (when many other amps have on my bench) on 10 14V batteries (that rest around 14.7V), then there is no way it is making rated power in your, or anyone elses vehicle.
So thank you for your concern. And the cease and desist nonsense was a good laugh as well so thank you for that.
The Amp Lab I have no association with Crunch USA or Hifonics, and actually YES, 14.4 volts and higher can be held if a person knows what they're doing! I have a sponsor from a different company, but this was the latest video I have seen. And the cease and desist is real and you will be getting the formal letter soon.
If what you want to do is give accurate measurements of some of these amplifiers then you need to state the fact the you are not able to give the correct readings. I will not go as far as to tell you my sponsor, only that they have surpassed your so called "benchmark", but however do not agree with your methods. If you continue to state that you are giving accurate readings with your current set-up, you will be contacted by some of these manufacturers who will be asking that you put a disclaimer in you videos that you don't have the actually ability, nor the preface to shell out false information if you cannot give the specified info of certain amplifiers according to your test bench of 10,(YES 10! XS 1400 14.4v batteries!)
This is in my own personal opinion now..... I don't know if you are stupid or just don't know a damn thing about how to properly set-up a serious car audio power distribution interface, but batteries are only a single part of what's supposed to go on. In a serous set-up, there will be voltage regulators AND additional power supplies to basically keep every single last millivolt and milliamperes present! I can only guess that because of the fact that you don't know this, you are at the very most possibly 18 and you don't understand A GOD DAMN THING ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!
So, once again... Good Day Sir!
The old school hiphonics amps put out true power certified true power usually underrated the new ones suck
The voltage isn't there. That's why it underperformed.
hifonics is a street brand. that being said i would tell anyone to get one used for around $150. i wouldnt mind running one. but if you need something to be proud the money would be better spent on the sq and thats what in saving for
How do I get that dynamic power to make your amp stronger?
Run a lightning rod to it and hope it gets hit by lightning cause that's the only way you will ever get that kind of power out of this amp.
+Tammy Forbes ok thanks
drop to half ohm..
Any idea about brx2400.1 is it same ?
Have not had a chance to test one yet.
Thanks for the fast comment bro . really good channel keep up . i like your videos . Respect from Saudi Arabia
Hey man could you please compare this to brx 2400.1
the brz is better
quick question
Nice video ,
I own one my self W7 10 if anyone can help me with tunning it correctly
Im using a mono hifonics zuez 2400 watt I need help adjusting the
•Subsonic
•Bass EQ
•low pass
•level volt
Sundown CT sound and Rockford are not low cost amps when brand new and I've never seen kicker do rated
Your right kicker KX does a little over rated. Now some of the lower priced models may not do 100% of there rated power but that's to be expected from any company that offers several series of amps from economy to their top of the line models.
I have this amp but I hooked it up and my subs won't turn on... helppppp
Bad bassknob
I wonder if that dumb logo thing is half the cost of the amp.
Bro you're only going to get the "certified" test if your feeding it 14.4 volts. Most hifonics are certified at 14.4 except some of the really large ones that can be take above 16.
Breaking hearts lol
Do the Zeus series!
+sabii bleu the zues are rated at max power not rms this is what hifonics told me
bruh even if it doesn't do rated ..damm the watts per dollar is freaking awesome but i agree they should really put the true power on the fornt of the amp cause i dont care picking up a 2100 watt amp for 250$ thats freaking awesome but idk y they do the 2400 watt at the front