@@soulsolis3096 True in the end Persona strong games like Royal, Golden and FES will end on PC instead on Switch which im loking forward too, and Shin Megami tensei on PlayStation and Switch since Nocturne Remake is on PS4 and Switch, the will come eventually.
Kudos to everyone with the patience, will and courage to face ALL of these crushingly difficult superbosses. Except Jose though, he was actually pretty easy.
Margaret's battle being intense and extremely focus inducing, finally dealing the last hit as Margaret falls and says "No" in disbelief of her defeat... Chie: HAHA! I LEVELED UP!
Out of all Whom Govern Power, Lavenza is the most endearing because she really went through a lot and had a genuine development during the game's story along with the player.
@@Bryan-ep4qj no Lavazza can use diarahan like the guy above say she chose not to Caroline and justline is Lavazza halfs split by the fake Igor they wield a pixie which can revive and heal
I haven't defeated any of the Velvet Room siblings but Lavenza when she was Caroline and Justine. And I had to grind with the Reaper in despair to get up to level 96 with Abaddon and Satanael as the only Personas I used. I'm not looking forward to fighting Elizabeth and Theo when I get there. It's gonna be a nightmare, especially solo.
@@cyberqueen7784 level 60+ is recomended if you want to fight the Reaper, I brought Makoto, Ann and Ryuji with me as the healer with their ultimate personas and some homunculus, it was Piece of cake.
@@joaolima7131 OK. I'll keep that in mind. Thanks. I'm not confident enough to go up against the Reaper. I'm still on Okumura's Palace right now on the first playthrough.
With Caroline and Justine when I saw Jack o lantern my first thought was that was going to be easy, then I saw blazing hell with joker equipped with a fire vulnerable Persona...
The Japanese version of the word "he/she" is gender neutral so they didn't program having different lines for Theodore and use the same ones as Elizabeth
@@rokia360 Umm no its not it depends on which word you use but it most cases they have gender pronouns. For example 彼(かれ)=he/boyfriend or 彼女(かのじょ) =she/girlfriend. Its just Atlus being lazy or forgetting that part in Dialogue
@@genewhite4825 We don't know about Japanese though, but for the Eng dub as shown in this video has some problem with the dialog. And it is also heard before that Fuuka's Eng VA got some grudges with Atlus so uhhh honestly we don't really know the reason
Would be considerably hard, maybe as a hidden boss maybe? I believe the attendants would fight at their prime, considering this is the first velvet room you enter in the series, why not make a first impression? I believe they’d be very powerful considering would be multiple bosses attacking you, idk.
Jose Seems... HARD? But He's True Identity keeps me Curious About Him???🤔 Who is He?? Whose Promise was he Referring Too??? And WHO are Thy "Others"!??!!! Some Old/New Velvet Attendants?
The thing I'm curious about is, If Jose is similar but separate from the Velvet Attendants, then does he also have siblings who learn about humanity through the collective unconscious?
I would say that elizabeth is easily the hardest but solo lavenza actually takes the cake (without INO BTW) some say she's actually on par if not stronger then demi-fiend in DDS 1.
Ultimate she is not par or stronger than demi-friend, beating demifriend is extremely reliant on luck, eliz use a certain pattern, demi-friend is considered the hardest boss in the series and probably in all jrpg. You must didn’t fight him for saying that.
@@Jfray252 I'm just now seeing this and I'm talking about solo lavenza not Elizabeth. I don't know if you actually finished reading what I typed but Solo lavenza also relies on RNG and is alot harder then it looks
@@ultimate8948 (she's actually on par if not stronger then demi-fiend in DDS 1.) demi-friend take hour to defeat and is random, reliant on luck and is impossible to defeat solo. Persona 5 royal is extremely easy even on hardest difficulty. Lavenza has no restriction you can easily defeat her solo with Izanagi or Yoshitsune, elizabeth has many restriction: No Party Members, No Omnipotent Orb, No Null/Reflect/Absorb passive skills on the element she is going to use, No Persona with more than one Null/Repel/Absorb property is allowed, No Attack/Magic Mirrors or tetrakarn/Makarekarn. She also use medigolaon 2 times, 9999 dmg every 8 turn.
@@Jfray252 Bruh that's why I said WITHOUT Izanagi in my first comment, and also Lavenza DOES has restrictions phase 1 get over 5000 damage, phase 2 always technical her every turn, phase 3 critical her every turn, now yes with a party that's easy to do however, solo of course if you mess up once she instantly kills you, that's why solo you have to have a optimal setup or you'll just get destroyed You can't just use yoshitsune and expect to blow past her and if you null some abilities she'll resort to using other tactics that you absolutley don't want her to use explained further in bainz video. A lot of people didn't even think it was possible to solo before without INO. So saying she has no restrictions is completely false because the 3rd phase relies totally on RNG, the fight you are talking about is vs caroline and justine where there fight has no restrictions at all.
@@Jfray252 Ok look I played both p3p and is on ng+ in p4g as we speak, By your last comment it clearly showed you knew nothing of the fight before so I was just trying to correct you beforehand. But all Im gonna say is watch bainzs video so you can see how much planning it takes to do the fight solo, The reason I mentioned demi-fiend Is because according to him (who beat both btw) he said it was harder then elizabeth and demi- fiend from dds1 and people would agree.
Y'know, it's interesting... The line from Fuuka doesn't change in Persona 3 Portable, and she refers to Theodore as a 'she'. Huh. Neat little oversight.
His mentions before and after his boss battles kind of hints his connections to them, though possibly just created shortly due to his toy/doll like appearance. Knowing P5 gen stories wasn't done yet, he might reappear as a major character.
@@nothingtoseeexceptwaifus there's an unused cutscene of Jose in the real world buying flowers. He wants to eat them but restrain himself since 'he' didn't teach Jose that (eating real world flowers). Kind of possibly imagine him being secretly Lavenza's little brother.
@@vanessachowjiaying4423 But it would've been kinda weird that Lavenza didn't mention a single word about him if it's the case even though both of them are in the same game. or maybe the word "he" is referencing Theo???
@@nothingtoseeexceptwaifus possibly due to the situation she's in when split, some of her memories are lost. Its possible she might refer Jose in next potential P5 gen spin off after EMMA arc. Royal and Scramble events kind of reinforce the statements of the never ending battle against oneself. Even Jose's statements kind of matches the past/upcoming battles, plus another statement of venting out frustrations reference to the fist fight between Ren and Maruki's final stand.
Lavenza is incredibly tough; I can give you tips if you'd like, unless you've already beaten her. I can't say anything about Elizabeth since I haven't played 3 or 4.
Are you referring to the Persona 4 Golden segment? They aren't DLC there. After the Gekkoukan trip, talk to Ms. Kashiwagi. You may have to do some things like ace a test or something, but that is one (yes, she can give you a few more things throughout the game) of the items she will give you. Each Gekkoukan costume will change the victory pose and message of the wearer (like Yukiko saying Mitsuru's lines and doing her pose).
![Persona 3 Reload - True Ending & Nyx Final Boss Fight (4K 60FPS) [Spoilers]](/img/n.gif)
Caroline & Justine: “he’s...actually strong!”
Ann, doing almost all the damage: “Am I a joke to you?!”
Joker when he’s just guarding and all of their attacks are being reflected back: “Am I still a joke to you!?!?”
Caroline and Justine talking to Ann: "Why should we listen to you...?"
Yuki and Elizabeth's VAs are married IRL, as are Kotone (FeMC) and Theodore's. Talk about a lover's quarrel.
Fun fact: Elizabeth has the same English VA as Mitsuru
@@TakeTheWorld21 so basically Yuki has two wife's talk about harem (kind of)
Yuki's VA is Yosuke
@@Wonker_And the FemC’s VA also voices Rise
He was replaced for Persona Q & Persona 3 Dancing
Elizabeth: Your fate is in the cards.
Theodore: Can you endure this?
Margaret: Withstand this!
Lavenza: Nothing personal.
Lavenza, with a CHAINSAW: will you survive?
Nothing personal KID!
Vs Theodore
Fuuka: HER power is so Unbelievable!
I'm gonna assume you're talking about me...
Even enhanced ports screw up sometimes, Just wish they would remake the game for PC already.
@@Ashachi With the success of 4 Golden on Steam, I'm pretty sure they will make a more definitve edition of 3 FES as well as porting 5 Royal.
@@soulsolis3096 True in the end Persona strong games like Royal, Golden and FES will end on PC instead on Switch which im loking forward too, and Shin Megami tensei on PlayStation and Switch since Nocturne Remake is on PS4 and Switch, the will come eventually.
And I though I was the only one who noticed that error, I was like "when the hell did Theodore become a girl all of sudden?" XD
If I were to guess I’d put my bet on it coming to PC this year for the 25th anniversary.
Kudos to everyone with the patience, will and courage to face ALL of these crushingly difficult superbosses.
Except Jose though, he was actually pretty easy.
"IT'S SHOWTIME" InTeNsIfIeS
The Twins only took me a few tries, still haven't beaten Lavenza tho
I’m dreading eventually facing Elizabeth. Lavenza was hell in the 3rd and Elizabeth is probably harder
@@niyol8982 It’s been three months now, did you beat her yet?
@@niyol8982 been 8 months now. Beat 'em yet?
Margaret's battle being intense and extremely focus inducing, finally dealing the last hit as Margaret falls and says "No" in disbelief of her defeat...
Chie: HAHA! I LEVELED UP!
Out of all Whom Govern Power, Lavenza is the most endearing because she really went through a lot and had a genuine development during the game's story along with the player.
10:09 cAn yOu eNdUrE tHiS?!?!
(High Counter)
Theo: “No! :(“
@@TheActualMrLink 😂😂😂😂
"I make my living as an elevator attendant, but... I know several effective ways of inflicting pain"
*proceed to smack with book*
yeah, I getting hit by a book is painful
47:10 That was so well timed i laughed.
PTSD is coming back from all these fights wow.
Elizabeth: *casts megidolaon*
Door: *lives*
Elizabeth: *casts megidolaon again*
Door: *still lives*
Door: "2 can play at tht game, Elizabeth!"
Door: *casts armageddon*
Elizabeth: ahhhhhhh shi-
Elizabeth: *dies*
Elizabeth:no you can't just ingnore my insta-kill megidolaon.
Door-kun/Fence: ha ha Infinity go brrrrrrrrrrr
Elizabeth is able to support 2 Armageddon, but Makoto only one and two with problems
why are we abusing one entire family you ask?
because this is a dream
No. This place exists between dream and reality.
Imagine getting jumped by the velvet siblings...
Hell no id off myself
You mean..like in Persona Q and Q2?😂
Joker soloed them like he did in Persona Q2. Tatsuya, Maya, Kazumi and Shin can also solo them since they fought and defeated threats FAR greater.
Just imagine if lavenza could use diarahan...
**No** 😂
Ahhh... Well that's sucks
she most likely can, she just chooses not to
I would have Persona 3'd myself multiple times by then
“Can you endure this?”
*Hits himself
“No.”
😂
Imagine if they never did normal attacks.
Lavenza would be somewhat less terrifying
@@alchemist824 "Will you survive?"
@@psionics321
RPL PHYS:
Which one was the hardest for y’all? I swear, my memories of Elizabeth haunt me even now
im pretty sure everyone is going to say elizabeth
Pray for me as for i just started p3 fes...
I would assume that Elizabeth and Theo would be at the top followed by Lavenza
I do not kn ow what to put Actually Lavenza is easier than Margaret in golden atleast
@@Jfray252 i see
p3p femc thedore boss fight: alright we'll get our new va to record lines but forget to rerecord fuka's lines
That moment when they use Diarahan.....
Except Lavenza, which is a first.
@@jamesvalkyrie7469 she going easy on u lmao
@@psionics321 no all of them are giving you their best
@@Bryan-ep4qj no Lavazza can use diarahan like the guy above say she chose not to Caroline and justline is Lavazza halfs split by the fake Igor they wield a pixie which can revive and heal
28:31 thank god i have some defense now i won’t take dama-
margaret: Begone THOT!
Fuuka all: "Who is she?!" to Liz, but forgetting she's talking to Yuki here.
Yuki: "Long story;... not gunna talk about it"
Margaret hitting for 9999 and following with Hassou Tobi...
I haven't defeated any of the Velvet Room siblings but Lavenza when she was Caroline and Justine. And I had to grind with the Reaper in despair to get up to level 96 with Abaddon and Satanael as the only Personas I used. I'm not looking forward to fighting Elizabeth and Theo when I get there. It's gonna be a nightmare, especially solo.
It's worse in Royal, The reaper can't be despaired anymore
@@joaolima7131 Ugh, as I thought. Because the Reaper was too easy to beat using Despair. I'm sure the developers decided to let it be immune to that.
@@cyberqueen7784 level 60+ is recomended if you want to fight the Reaper, I brought Makoto, Ann and Ryuji with me as the healer with their ultimate personas and some homunculus, it was Piece of cake.
@@joaolima7131 OK. I'll keep that in mind. Thanks. I'm not confident enough to go up against the Reaper. I'm still on Okumura's Palace right now on the first playthrough.
@@cyberqueen7784 and use a persona with debilitate too
lol fuuka is at Theo side, ''ummm... it's just me or does it seem like she wants to fight...?''
''What!? Her power is unbelievable!
...Who is she!?''
With Caroline and Justine when I saw Jack o lantern my first thought was that was going to be easy, then I saw blazing hell with joker equipped with a fire vulnerable Persona...
Makoto - Elisabeth
Kotone - Theodore
Yu - Margaret
Ren - Caroline & Justine / Lavenza
Joker to Jose: STOP HITTING YOURSELF! STOP HITTING YOURSELF! STOP HITTING YOURSELF!
P3P 8:17 - P4 25:13 -P5R - 1:00:12
Ok Dism, people don't believe me that Margaret is a boss in Persona 3 Portable.
Now they'll finally see im not going crazy
Yea Right
Lowkey forgor about this comment 💀
These siblings are tough
nmm....Sure.
It's only fitting that the strongest MC will have the hardest challenge
Which one?
@@TakeTheWorld21 That's for you to find out...
Tatsuya then, he straigth up figthed philemon
Tatsuya. He fought Philemon who's Igor's master. Makes sense.
I like how fuuka says Theodore is a she.
Why didn’t atlas change the dialog XD
The Japanese version of the word "he/she" is gender neutral so they didn't program having different lines for Theodore and use the same ones as Elizabeth
Or maybe some conflicts happened between Fuuka's English VA and Atlus before her lines was finished recording.
@@rokia360 Umm no its not it depends on which word you use but it most cases they have gender pronouns. For example 彼(かれ)=he/boyfriend or 彼女(かのじょ) =she/girlfriend. Its just Atlus being lazy or forgetting that part in Dialogue
@@genewhite4825 We don't know about Japanese though, but for the Eng dub as shown in this video has some problem with the dialog. And it is also heard before that Fuuka's Eng VA got some grudges with Atlus so uhhh honestly we don't really know the reason
@@genewhite4825 how do you know they used gender specific terms in the Japanese version though?
Man the memories of getting my ass kicked
Velvet fights are top tier asf.
I only have p3 and p4
I have had them for like a month
In the time I killed Margaret i still haven’t killed elizabeth
Any news about your progress on Elizabeth ? :D
@@xaviermichel9853 i honestly haven't gotten back around to it
@@ultra9349 saddd, you've been Elizabeth'd
@@xaviermichel9853 i refought her but i didn't realize messiah has a repel so i got megidodeadon'd
Fuuka didn't change the dialogues for Theo's battle and called him "she" XD
I literally never knew you could crit lavenza and I was losing alot
Charles: i got the perfect plan *rams helicopter* this is the greatest plaaaan. FAIL: Not again you should know better
p3 was the real chad...my man beat Margaret first before yu ☠️😂
Theodore: Can you endure this?
*No*
*megidolaon flashbacks*
How powerful would the first velvet room attendants be if we fought them in p1?
Would be considerably hard, maybe as a hidden boss maybe?
I believe the attendants would fight at their prime, considering this is the first velvet room you enter in the series, why not make a first impression?
I believe they’d be very powerful considering would be multiple bosses attacking you, idk.
In P2EP you fought Philemon himself
Way more powerful than the ones now
You should add philemon from persona 2 since he is the master of velvet room
Almost no one knows about Philemon in the Persona Fandom.
@@jackour8167 blue butterfly
@@Hiroakiarai88 That was Lavenza
@@jackour8167 what about persona 4
@@Hiroakiarai88 probably Margaret. It can't be Philemon because he's an orange butterfly.
Jose Seems... HARD?
But He's True Identity keeps me Curious About Him???🤔 Who is He??
Whose Promise was he Referring Too??? And WHO are Thy "Others"!??!!!
Some Old/New Velvet Attendants?
Jose can be cheesed out like crazy
The thing I'm curious about is,
If Jose is similar but separate from the Velvet Attendants, then does he also have siblings who learn about humanity through the collective unconscious?
He's probably referring to Philemon
is it me or Elizabeth is the hardest one
Daaaaaaaamn what has Igor been doing that makes all the attendants so strong?....
I would say that elizabeth is easily the hardest but solo lavenza actually takes the cake (without INO BTW) some say she's actually on par if not stronger then demi-fiend in DDS 1.
Ultimate she is not par or stronger than demi-friend, beating demifriend is extremely reliant on luck, eliz use a certain pattern, demi-friend is considered the hardest boss in the series and probably in all jrpg. You must didn’t fight him for saying that.
@@Jfray252 I'm just now seeing this and I'm talking about solo lavenza not Elizabeth. I don't know if you actually finished reading what I typed but Solo lavenza also relies on RNG and is alot harder then it looks
@@ultimate8948 (she's actually on par if not stronger then demi-fiend in DDS 1.)
demi-friend take hour to defeat and is random, reliant on luck and is impossible to defeat solo. Persona 5 royal is extremely easy even on hardest difficulty. Lavenza has no restriction you can easily defeat her solo with Izanagi or Yoshitsune, elizabeth has many restriction: No Party Members, No Omnipotent Orb, No Null/Reflect/Absorb passive skills on the element she is going to use, No Persona with more than one Null/Repel/Absorb property is allowed, No Attack/Magic Mirrors or tetrakarn/Makarekarn. She also use medigolaon 2 times, 9999 dmg every 8 turn.
@@Jfray252 Bruh that's why I said WITHOUT Izanagi in my first comment, and also Lavenza DOES has restrictions phase 1 get over 5000 damage, phase 2 always technical her every turn, phase 3 critical her every turn, now yes with a party that's easy to do however, solo of course if you mess up once she instantly kills you, that's why solo you have to have a optimal setup or you'll just get destroyed You can't just use yoshitsune and expect to blow past her and if you null some abilities she'll resort to using other tactics that you absolutley don't want her to use explained further in bainz video. A lot of people didn't even think it was possible to solo before without INO. So saying she has no restrictions is completely false because the 3rd phase relies totally on RNG, the fight you are talking about is vs caroline and justine where there fight has no restrictions at all.
@@Jfray252 Ok look I played both p3p and is on ng+ in p4g as we speak, By your last comment it clearly showed you knew nothing of the fight before so I was just trying to correct you beforehand. But all Im gonna say is watch bainzs video so you can see how much planning it takes to do the fight solo, The reason I mentioned demi-fiend Is because according to him (who beat both btw) he said it was harder then elizabeth and demi- fiend from dds1 and people would agree.
ngl persona 3 attacks will never not be messed up
Why elizabeth use "ma-" skills if you're alone?
@Gabriel Pereira yeah, but if i remember right you can only fight elizabeth alone
She's just flexing her Mp
She probably had like 20k mp or more
She actually has infinite mp
It's mercy. Ma- spells have a slightly lower hit rate than single target skills (like 85% vs 90%).
Jose, the missing velvet sibling
😮
Y'know, it's interesting...
The line from Fuuka doesn't change in Persona 3 Portable, and she refers to Theodore as a 'she'. Huh. Neat little oversight.
Can Margaret be fought with Makoto? Every time I see her battle, it's always with Kotone
Yes
Put Jose in the time stamps .
But what about Philemon?
a. he's not a velvet sibling and b. It's only on Eternal Punishment
Greg501 Plus he’s kinda “over” the Velvet Room.
Is Jose really a velvet sibling???
Also I always avoid doing this fights because of how nightmarish to do
His mentions before and after his boss battles kind of hints his connections to them, though possibly just created shortly due to his toy/doll like appearance. Knowing P5 gen stories wasn't done yet, he might reappear as a major character.
@@vanessachowjiaying4423 or maybe he would be introduced as "Lavenza's friend", who knows???
@@nothingtoseeexceptwaifus there's an unused cutscene of Jose in the real world buying flowers. He wants to eat them but restrain himself since 'he' didn't teach Jose that (eating real world flowers). Kind of possibly imagine him being secretly Lavenza's little brother.
@@vanessachowjiaying4423 But it would've been kinda weird that Lavenza didn't mention a single word about him if it's the case even though both of them are in the same game.
or maybe the word "he" is referencing Theo???
@@nothingtoseeexceptwaifus possibly due to the situation she's in when split, some of her memories are lost. Its possible she might refer Jose in next potential P5 gen spin off after EMMA arc. Royal and Scramble events kind of reinforce the statements of the never ending battle against oneself. Even Jose's statements kind of matches the past/upcoming battles, plus another statement of venting out frustrations reference to the fist fight between Ren and Maruki's final stand.
What do you think? If Justine and Caroline we’re grown-ups
Some people: Akechi is Light Yagami 2.0
Other people: Yusuke is Jun + Minato
Me: Akechi is Sasuke + Light Yagami
55:14 the edit lol
why do you keep stretching the screen to be 16:9 instead of just keeping it 4:3?
(specifically for P3)
i Just got power charge hassou tobied by Margaret lmfao
Can someone pls tell me the name of the theme that plays from 0:00 - 1:09
( Sry for my bad english I'm from Austria)
Unavoidable battle if I'm right
Late answer but it's the remix of "Persona" from Persona 3 FES
Fuuka theo isnt a girl
Why did Margaret’s voice change during her speech
Also, I love persona
9:30 Fuuka needs some glasses Theo is clearly a dude
I still can’t beat lavenza and Elizabeth :/
Lavenza is incredibly tough; I can give you tips if you'd like, unless you've already beaten her.
I can't say anything about Elizabeth since I haven't played 3 or 4.
Elizabeth >>>>
José is a velvet sibling?
Are the gekkoukan uniforms unlockable in game or are they a mod?
dlc
Are you referring to the Persona 4 Golden segment? They aren't DLC there. After the Gekkoukan trip, talk to Ms. Kashiwagi. You may have to do some things like ace a test or something, but that is one (yes, she can give you a few more things throughout the game) of the items she will give you.
Each Gekkoukan costume will change the victory pose and message of the wearer (like Yukiko saying Mitsuru's lines and doing her pose).
@@Mageman17 oh. I didn't think Kashiwagi did anything but be horny
Wait Margaret was is P3?!
Yeah in the doors thing in New Game +
@@animesenpai1163 Not exactly. She appear in first walkthrough of P3P
wait margaret is in p3p?
Always has. At least on p3p/fes
@@xaviermichel9853 no she's only in p3p because that was released after the original 4 also why she doesn't have new voice lines when not in combat
Wait Margaret is in p3p?
Yeap.
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