Pro Editor Reacts to Transitions in (G)I-DLE 'TOMBOY'

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  • @JordanOrme
    @JordanOrme  2 роки тому +605

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    • @ranyapreetanchal6684
      @ranyapreetanchal6684 2 роки тому +2

      Ayyyyyy

    • @shooky_bxnny3773
      @shooky_bxnny3773 2 роки тому +7

      Try some idles other song and everglow, dc, ateez..
      I wish could join 😭

    • @ranyapreetanchal6684
      @ranyapreetanchal6684 2 роки тому +1

      I will try my best to win the prize! Definitely will participate tho!

    • @armyblinkforever7273
      @armyblinkforever7273 2 роки тому +2

      I AM BEGGING YOU, please react to After School by Weeekly

    • @GGCannon
      @GGCannon 2 роки тому

      Jordan, please react to the "2021 em uma música" music video.

  • @sunshinesunoo1770
    @sunshinesunoo1770 2 роки тому +8647

    7:46 soyeon said “you get the song right? you'll get what i mean, tomboy” yes, it's just symbolic. the whole song is about breaking stereotype of how ppl nowadays underestimating women's abilities to do something

    • @naminamirawr
      @naminamirawr 2 роки тому +233

      @Chilla Foxyy it does actually, the context of tomboy here is the same with Destiny Rogers' Tomboy song.

    • @ariathefirst6495
      @ariathefirst6495 2 роки тому +54

      @Chilla Foxyy how about doing your research and finding out the gender bias going on there in SK?

    • @peachyytan1586
      @peachyytan1586 2 роки тому +3

      Exactly

    • @sunshinesunoo1770
      @sunshinesunoo1770 2 роки тому +27

      @Chilla Foxyy how?
      breaking stereotype of how ppl nowadays underestimating women's abilities to do something, just like tomboy.

    • @isalxy.
      @isalxy. 2 роки тому +1

      @Chilla Foxyy ur just not getting it.

  • @luisferd8097
    @luisferd8097 2 роки тому +13122

    they are not referring to the actual tomboy style, is more about them being fierce and getting out of the hyper feminine and girly stereotype society expects women to accomplish, kind of like "if this is not how girls should be, then i guess you can call me a tomboy if you want"

    • @hopehope3803
      @hopehope3803 2 роки тому +115

      yes!!!

    • @oideshannpuu_
      @oideshannpuu_ 2 роки тому +40

      UP

    • @midoriyadeku6153
      @midoriyadeku6153 2 роки тому +306

      He flopped at this one haha

    • @tusjinn9274
      @tusjinn9274 2 роки тому +19

      This!

    • @mayhg3846
      @mayhg3846 2 роки тому +442

      Yeah, Soyeon kinda said it herself in the MV as well: "If you get this song right, you'll get what I mean 'tomboy'", as this song is about breaking social gender stereotype.

  • @jenny-tk4xi
    @jenny-tk4xi 2 роки тому +9061

    saw a theory about that 'tomboy' is used to represent the breaking of gender stereotypes (perhaps this is what the "this is my attitude" and "it's neither man nor woman" lines mean) and i thought that was really interesting! and also the mv is so cool i loved it

    • @i_nevie_die
      @i_nevie_die 2 роки тому +420

      It is! The G in Gidle stands for girl so that’s why the G in I Never Die posters is faded and sometimes not even there, and why there are missing posters for the G in the MV

    • @TheGreatEllie125
      @TheGreatEllie125 2 роки тому +47

      I was thinking about that too when I read those lyrics

    • @jenny-tk4xi
      @jenny-tk4xi 2 роки тому +39

      @@i_nevie_die OH RIGHT i didn't realise that's a cool detail!

    • @smithchippie5546
      @smithchippie5546 2 роки тому +134

      Yes, they're not literally trying to be Tomboys - it's having the attitude of one.

    • @prestonsalomon1778
      @prestonsalomon1778 2 роки тому +21

      I think it’s also a lesbian song since “I’m in love with a tomboy”, tomboys are usually females

  • @phoenixmaximus37
    @phoenixmaximus37 2 роки тому +4197

    I think your understanding on the word TOMBOY is only based on what you see and what you know in the western world. Mostly in Eastern and asian countries especially conservative countries uses the word TOMBOY as woman who breaks the gender role and perception of a woman according to that specific country/culture. A lot of "Tomboy" women can still look feminine but does not act accordingly to how their society perceives them. Just giving my 2 cents about your comment about tomboys and how they dress.

    • @shobeskirt6998
      @shobeskirt6998 2 роки тому +35

      hi i saw your tweet and you're right

    • @Rixboi_7
      @Rixboi_7 2 роки тому +36

      PREACH!!! Very well said !!!

    • @jreibanez2190
      @jreibanez2190 2 роки тому +27

      He's a WHITE MAN. Bet ya he won't acknowledge anything.

    • @WuWaOSTS
      @WuWaOSTS 2 роки тому +22

      @@jreibanez2190 racism is showing

    • @hanmira
      @hanmira 2 роки тому +19

      @@WuWaOSTS against whom

  • @zucchinhi
    @zucchinhi 2 роки тому +2081

    i liked everything you said about the video editing and production ❗️but for clarification when they refer to “tomboy” or say “yeah i’m a fucking tomboy” they don’t mean just the style of clothing. in other countries “tomboy” would be used to shame or refer to a way a certain person behaves that is “not lady-like” which is why they mention things like not fitting into standards for women, smoking, cussing, drinking and such❗️

    • @judithkim4050
      @judithkim4050 2 роки тому +98

      honestly even if you look up an English definition of tomboy they will mention the behaviors and characteristics before necessarily presentation -_- i don't know why everyone is getting so caught up on the fashion which leans more in the pop punk which is also valid considering the music. there can be femme presenting tomboys imo

    • @rg9991
      @rg9991 2 роки тому +5

      @@judithkim4050 people just want to hate...videos with negative views get much more engagement than positive reviews

    • @runaa_boo
      @runaa_boo Рік тому

      Exactly !!

  • @jah0oliah
    @jah0oliah 2 роки тому +3103

    Let’s get the cultural difference straight - As a FEMININE Asian I still have been called a tomboy for a number of small things from wearing oversized shirts to having any trace of a defiant attitude. It’s usually said as a backhanded insult like “you’re not being a proper lady”.
    So I love how this song is reclaiming that word and owning that attitude.
    Let’s try not to diminish feminist statements, even by accident, especially when Koreans are still living in a highly conservative and patriarchal society. They currently have to fight for basic women’s rights in their political environment.

    • @Rose-oo9gn
      @Rose-oo9gn 2 роки тому +55

      As someone born and raised in America, tomboy usually meant a non girly girl. That’s it. Most of the tomboys I knew were really into sports.

    • @bxhija7898
      @bxhija7898 2 роки тому +8

      @@Rose-oo9gn same as england

    • @vangyng
      @vangyng 2 роки тому +2

      RIGHT

    • @Elviichan
      @Elviichan 2 роки тому +55

      Words can be used differently depending on the context, so let's appreciate OP's comment that explain how they see it in asian cultures.

    • @mauvemonster000
      @mauvemonster000 2 роки тому +23

      i have to agree. however, in our country (philippines) tomboy means lesbian.
      in terms of culture, here in the Philippines we have this concept of "dalagang pilipina" - which means being modest, quiet and reserved. there's a huge pressure and expectation towards filipina women to act like this since it's traditional. so when their are women who act different they labeled right away as tomboy even they're not

  • @thundercloudss
    @thundercloudss 2 роки тому +1401

    Don't look at this song in a western perspective. I-DLE is from a conservative country (Korea). You say 'tomboy' to a woman who doesn't necessarily appear nor act feminine. Soyeon composed this song to say that's it's neither a man nor a woman, just I-dle. They will love and embrace themselves for who they are and what they are capable to do, even if they're not conforming with what society tells them to do as girls/woman.
    (There are also few female producers in Korea, and I-DLE members are one of those, mainly Soyeon)
    That's why 'G' in (G)I-DLE is missing in all the visuals, mainly because of two reasons:
    1) G stands for six (6), but now they're only five.
    2) G stands for 'girl'. They don't want to box themselves, they want to break gender stereotypes.

    • @kaedeharakazuha1081
      @kaedeharakazuha1081 2 роки тому +12

      Tomboy meaning here in the Philippines (Asian country) is the same with Western. So at first, I'm just confused with the song. 🤣

    • @yourreactroy
      @yourreactroy 2 роки тому +64

      @@kaedeharakazuha1081 I'm from ph but ik that tomboy is not just about the way a female should dress like a man? ig it's really a matter of perspective.

    • @thundercloudss
      @thundercloudss 2 роки тому +37

      @@kaedeharakazuha1081 A lot of countries in the world defines it as a girl who's behaving like a boy/not feminine enough.
      But don't take it literally in a song. You need to look at the lyrics and visual.
      'Neither man nor woman', meaning defying gender roles, gender expectations, and just being I-dle (themselves).
      'Just me loving tomboy', meaning they are who they are, they will love themselves no matter if people wants to put them in a box.

    • @luvmoosam
      @luvmoosam 2 роки тому +8

      Yeah! 제일 맞게 설명했음. 그리고 idle도 I+'들' 이라는 의미임. 5명의 '나'라는 의미. 그래서 g를 빼는게 더 중요한거고 의미있는 것. 톰보이도 여러 의미를 담은 거고!

    • @dalylueur
      @dalylueur 2 роки тому +6

      @@kaedeharakazuha1081 a fellow filo here but i get what their message at first watch. Being called a 'tomboy' here has always been a coincide of the way you dress and how you move or act (not being a proper lady) not solely on clothing. First hand experience here because i was called a 'tomboy' when i was a kid a few fimes for moving 'tough' and sometimes messy, playing outside with boys while dressing in t-shirt and 'tokong' shorts. The impression has been universal i think it just depends on your perspective.

  • @DuZ.
    @DuZ. 2 роки тому +199

    🌟FACTS🌟
    1. The Director and Editor is a Woman! She was the one that edited INVU of Taeyeon.
    2. "Tomboy" is the term they chosed to speak out about the prejudice for Girl groups not being "girly" enough, so they say "it's neither man or woman", I-dle is whatever they want (the group even promoted without the G that emphasize them being girls/women).

  • @peachy241
    @peachy241 2 роки тому +984

    I loved this MV. Hats off to the editor for creating this masterpiece

    • @JordanOrme
      @JordanOrme  2 роки тому +68

      🙌🏼🙌🏼🤩

    • @rugswiper1866
      @rugswiper1866 2 роки тому

      You are lucky dude

    • @shimpiyaa
      @shimpiyaa 2 роки тому

      Yes

    • @EngrKage
      @EngrKage 2 роки тому

      You can watch the chipmunk version here
      ua-cam.com/video/JnBoFh65Ffs/v-deo.html

    • @EngrKage
      @EngrKage 2 роки тому

      @@rugswiper1866 you can watch the chipmunk version here
      ua-cam.com/video/JnBoFh65Ffs/v-deo.html

  • @SuperAliScott
    @SuperAliScott 2 роки тому +958

    THIS MV IS A BOMB!

    • @JordanOrme
      @JordanOrme  2 роки тому +79

      Right?!

    • @EngrKage
      @EngrKage 2 роки тому +4

      You can watch the chipmunk version here
      ua-cam.com/video/JnBoFh65Ffs/v-deo.html

    • @EngrKage
      @EngrKage 2 роки тому +1

      @@JordanOrme you can watch the chipmunk version here
      ua-cam.com/video/JnBoFh65Ffs/v-deo.html

    • @Achuachujjrl
      @Achuachujjrl 2 роки тому +2

      @@JordanOrme wdym by right ??

    • @neha3544
      @neha3544 2 роки тому +7

      @@Achuachujjrl he means he's agreeing with the original comment

  • @tckk8902
    @tckk8902 2 роки тому +574

    The word Tomboy has very different connotation in most of the eastern countries. It's almost used synonymously to 'Rebellious Girl', someone who doesn't behave 'lady-like' etc. They went for THAT meaning of Tomboy, not the western one which pertains more to aesthetics. They challenge those stereotypes by claiming to be a Tomboy.

    • @AlexObcass
      @AlexObcass 2 роки тому +10

      The meaning Jordan is giving the word here is not "the western one" we here know the different connotation of the word too and is a reclaimed word now. He just tried to be "i know best" and clearly he doesnt.

    • @almilall
      @almilall 2 роки тому +4

      @@AlexObcass he does not know best but he knows right just look at the dictionary. tomboy is an english word they cant change the word from a different language so they should create a new one in their own you cant just steal a word from a different culture and add your thoughts in its meaning lmao

    • @moisezb6147
      @moisezb6147 2 роки тому +11

      @@almilall dude that’s how language works, you take words from other languages maybe modify them a bit but it’s not something they invented. I’m sure you use words like “micro” “minimum” “philosophy” “etc.” which are all words in english that are originally greek. Honestly you not understanding that a same word can have different connotations or multiple meanings depending on the culture is extremely ethnocentric of you

    • @MrMLaidlaw
      @MrMLaidlaw Рік тому +1

      That's what a Tomboy means in the west as well... Apparently the difference is that it's a deadly insult in the east. I see it as a fun song about dom girls lol

  • @artsology7825
    @artsology7825 2 роки тому +246

    So at the end of the video in the credits seen it shows
    Bomber MIYEON (the girl who threw the explosive lolipop)
    Sniper MINNIE (the girl with the gun you said was a barbie doll)
    Poisoner SOYEON (the girl who did the rap and blended ken)
    Driver YUQI (the girl with the blondish pink hair driving the car)
    Spectator SHUHUA (the girl in the movie scene)

    • @sillything_
      @sillything_ 2 роки тому

      It was miyeon walking in the corridor

    • @thedivinefolktales3555
      @thedivinefolktales3555 2 роки тому +1

      shuhua was in the movie scene jjust because miyeon and shuhua got same part dosenot means they are the same person.

    • @artsology7825
      @artsology7825 2 роки тому

      oh that's my bad, sry I'm a new neverland 😅

    • @thedivinefolktales3555
      @thedivinefolktales3555 2 роки тому

      @@artsology7825 ok srry if you found me rude 😋

  • @k-aki9176
    @k-aki9176 2 роки тому +413

    When I saw the explosion behind Miyeon and the doll's parts I just thought what would be your reaction to it and yeah, I'm not disappointed lol

    • @JordanOrme
      @JordanOrme  2 роки тому +37

      Hahaha thanks for hanging!

    • @EngrKage
      @EngrKage 2 роки тому +1

      You can watch the chipmunk version here
      ua-cam.com/video/JnBoFh65Ffs/v-deo.html

  • @moonsmien
    @moonsmien 2 роки тому +108

    Eyyy :D I know it's very easy to gloss over the deeper message of the song because the Tomboy aesthetic is what most people relate it too but the message really goes deeper than just stylistic choices.
    The "This is my attitude." line is one of the main hooks and I also think it's one of the most telling statements on how becoming a "Tomboy" is not just applying boyish styles but rather, becoming free to express yourself the way you want to.
    At the first parts of the MV, the girls are always confined in 4 walls. Even if it's a hallway, Soyeon's asylum, Minnie's room, etc. until Miyeon sees through the keyhole Yuqi and Shuhua driving. I interpret this as them finally *seeing* things from the outside perspective. They just became introduced to the concept of controlling one's self (hence, Yuqi driving her own car).
    The dolls also represent the idea of the ideal feminine while Ken, contrary to popular belief, does not simply represent their significant other but also the concept of toxic masculinity / misogyny. At the start of the MV, the audience perspective is also in first person, we're the ones being loaded into a car, being pointed a gun towards, etc. Just like how the girls slowly escape the enclosure, literal boxes, we also go from being in the first person to third person. We finally see what's inside the trunk because we, ourselves, are also free. 6 balloons representing IDLE (yeah, let me dream) and then the rest representing Neverland! They've literally killed the preconceived notions of what any of us are supposed to act like and what society dictates how we should act.
    In the end, there's so many layers and connections sprinkled through the MV that even I'm still trying to find them all. And in this comment, I haven't even discussed everything solely because of the *sheer* amount of messages you can derive from the lyrics alone. It's really fun! And I can't really blame people for missing what the song really means because of the assumptions we make with the word "Tomboy", which only proves IDLE's point.

  • @HakunaMatata-co6ik
    @HakunaMatata-co6ik 2 роки тому +225

    Hi, thank you for reacting (G)I-dle Tomboy MV! Glad that many people react to this MV.
    And I think through this MV you learn 2 things about *culture difference* between western and eastern cultures.
    1. 3:25 It is 'I am fucking Tomboy'. Fucking is still considered as rude so they need to beep it in order to be media appropriate in South Korea and any other eastern countries. Fun fact: many beep on MV of eastern musics usually beeping for the word of 'fucking', so eastern audience know that without search it to the CD version.
    2. 4:04 In eastern cultures, *Tomboy doesn't mean the appearance but mannerism.* Women and girls in eastern culture wearing feminine clothes are still considered as Tomboy because of their attitude, breaking the stereotype of being feminine attitude.
    Hopefully, this explanation widen you perspective. Many Thanks!😁

    • @ariathefirst6495
      @ariathefirst6495 2 роки тому +15

      True. I dress up all girly and stuff but seriously, my interest are all boy stuff. Being a tomboy is not just about how one dresses. 🤦‍♀️

    • @hyerinit
      @hyerinit 2 роки тому +1

      @@ariathefirst6495 fr

    • @BEELZEBUB-p5x
      @BEELZEBUB-p5x 2 місяці тому

      dang u Rlly wrote all this just for him Not to read it LMAO (No hate)

  • @LollyByDay
    @LollyByDay 2 роки тому +100

    3:22 "tomboy" is not only a noun but an adjective too, so the line "yeah i'm f*cking tomboy" is as grammatically correct as "yeah i'm f*cking awesome"

  • @livfoofoo1110
    @livfoofoo1110 2 роки тому +231

    Tomboy is image made by society (specifically men) for women who don't have feminine vibe or opinion which is literally the stereotype I-DLE is trying to break through this MV.
    In the MV when Soyeon is in the kitchen and the line goes "I don't wanna play this ping pong
    I would rather film a TikTok"
    It's her going against the stereotype that women belong in the kitchen only. Those lyrics mean that she's an independent woman and can do whatever.

  • @c.h.u.nleung813
    @c.h.u.nleung813 2 роки тому +211

    Everthing about this comeback is IN F*CKING SANE. I am not even a fan like that but from the song to the music video to the styling are screaming ICONIC, and excuse me who did the choreo for this because the ending scene is HOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT.

    • @wineparty5983
      @wineparty5983 2 роки тому

      I agree with u so muuuch....the outfits are fire🔥 the last scene of the MV is beautiful, like the choreography.... and the meaning of the song is very important and so good👏🏻😊

  • @PurnataHassan
    @PurnataHassan 2 роки тому +59

    "you know what i mean tomboy" clearly some people didn't know what she meant. tomboy is not about them saying they're tomboys because they dress like that tomboy chorus is saying "fine i will be a tomboy" a statement to overcome gender barriers.

  • @ariathefirst6495
    @ariathefirst6495 2 роки тому +189

    I like your views on video editing but I feel kind of sad how you looked at the song, I'm not sure if you read the lyrics. In South Korea, women are expected to behave a certain way and this song was a way to empower women to stand up to how they want to see themselves as and not be dictated by social norms. There aren't a lot of female producers there in South Korea because of the gender bias that it is a man's job. She mentioned on her interview that she was told this when she wanted to start writing her own songs. I feel like this song really did a good job showing that.

  • @uanchoalido7173
    @uanchoalido7173 2 роки тому +68

    "Tomboy" was written by Soyeon who also composed and arranged the song alongside Pop Time and Jenci. Musically, the song was described as a rock and pop punk song with lyrics about "independence and breaking the mold [of] being a 'perfect' girlfriend".

  • @yosancahyadi4852
    @yosancahyadi4852 2 роки тому +34

    I think they meant "Yeah I'm a f*cking tomboy", because the next line is "Yeah I'll be the tomboy"
    I'm from Indonesia (a part of Southeast Asia) and I totally understand what they meant by 'tomboy'. I think in Asian culture, the term 'tomboy' is mostly used to describe a manly/boyish, fierce, strong woman. For example:
    "Yeah, she never wants to wear a skirt, she's very tomboy"
    "She's a tomboy, no wonder why boys don't want to date her"
    Or if you want to be more specific, 'tomboy' can also mean a woman that takes the man's part in a relationship (?), this is rarely used though but the meaning can also lean this way.

  • @itzymidzy828
    @itzymidzy828 2 роки тому +98

    listen to dreamcatcher and loona next pls they are so underrated

    • @csuklok1
      @csuklok1 2 роки тому +9

      LITERALLY queens

    • @toaa_a
      @toaa_a 2 роки тому +3

      Litt

    • @JordanOrme
      @JordanOrme  2 роки тому +22

      We’ll see!

    • @izmulti999
      @izmulti999 2 роки тому +5

      He already reacted to both groups

    • @amayatacub831
      @amayatacub831 2 роки тому +4

      I agree with this you should do a lot more of both!

  • @axis1198
    @axis1198 2 роки тому +181

    Despite the title being "Tomboy", the song is a commentary and criticizing the conventional, standards, and stereotypes present in our societies today. Like just like what Soyeon says, Tomboy is an attitude, we dont mf need to fit in to your expectation just so one could be called tomboy. Same goes to her line "Sometimes we swear without cigarettes" as there is this stigma, mainly in Korea that when a girl swears a lot, it more likely that they smoke cigarettes and drinks a lot, and vice versa. She basically means, I dont need cigarettes just for me to swear. I can be whoever I want to be, and still be able to swear.
    If only I could make a video of explaining this song to international listeners because most of y'all really dont get it at all. Even Jordan himself "makes a frown face" because he expected the girls to be wearing some stereotypical tomboy clothing, but no, we dont have to fit in to those stereotypes just to be validated with how we want to be.

    • @ariathefirst6495
      @ariathefirst6495 2 роки тому +27

      Not to mention that the smoking and swearing has a direct relation to Soojin too as she was accused of that when she was a teenager.

    • @rg9991
      @rg9991 2 роки тому

      @@ariathefirst6495 which is a ridiculous thing to "accuse" someone of...

  • @ОляМакей
    @ОляМакей 2 роки тому +54

    Men, tomboy is also about behaviour
    Not only appearance

  • @georgina6917
    @georgina6917 2 роки тому +57

    The irony or Soyeon asking if you get the song and the message if the song flying over your head.
    They are not being Tomboys, they are stating you can call them Tomboy if you like due to them breaking a bunch of female stereotypes in the video but they are just I-DLE.

  • @Wavesinsomniac
    @Wavesinsomniac 2 роки тому +31

    I like your content because you're teaching us and also make us appreciate the mv even more buuuut i'm a little disappointed that you didn't understand the point of the song and didn't look past your first thought

  • @NatachaBesnard
    @NatachaBesnard 2 роки тому +141

    Normally "Tomboy" it's in "old mind" for say a girl don't like "girly" things. So I think she plays with all girly things, she refuses to be.

    • @ko1619
      @ko1619 2 роки тому +5

      @Chilla Foxyy Okay but it's an artistic approach bruh

    • @judithkim4050
      @judithkim4050 2 роки тому +23

      @Chilla Foxyy tomboy is not an aesthetic, an aesthetic can definitely be a part of it, but its literally "girls who prefer doing boy things" wearing more boy like clothing is only one, small imo, aspect of doing a boy thing. plus korea has their own ideas about what is for boys and girls

    • @makiintensifies7266
      @makiintensifies7266 2 роки тому +10

      @Chilla Foxyy But it's Korea, you'd have to see how they use that word, if they use it at all. Anyway, it seems like it's just a way to symbolize criticism of idols. You have to know the context, they said earlier that the song is a kind of "response" to fans who just criticize the artists, there is a name for them but I don't remember it. Maybe knitz or sometime like this. (deepl translate)

    • @Babyboyhaechannie9163
      @Babyboyhaechannie9163 2 роки тому

      @@judithkim4050 the word is used differently in Korea. Do some research on that

  • @kzuamp
    @kzuamp 2 роки тому +194

    loved this mv so much

  • @wisestwise
    @wisestwise 2 роки тому +180

    I didn't expect the you will react on this mv, i've always wanted to see you react in (G)I-DLE's music videos because they are my ultimate stan and i like the way you react to every mvs. I'm a kpop stan that love editing so i find you very entertaining and i gain knowledge when you notice every little transition/edited parts in a music video! I'm from Philippines and i always watch your reaction videos ^__^

    • @audrey8153
      @audrey8153 2 роки тому +3

      Dunno if it was me, But on his story on Instagram, I told him to react to Girl's Tomboy then enct day found this lol

    • @Sarah-ft4xo
      @Sarah-ft4xo 2 роки тому +4

      He reacted to Oh my god too

    • @whoisthis1516
      @whoisthis1516 2 роки тому +2

      (G)I-DLE's music videos don't have many edits, only a few have edits, that is: Hann(Alone), Señorita, Oh My God, and Tomboy
      I've recommended Hann's music video to Jordan, the answer is always "we'll see ^^"
      fuck

    • @lishasubs6726
      @lishasubs6726 Рік тому +1

      Also Nxde ❤️

  • @stanalexastantalent4505
    @stanalexastantalent4505 2 роки тому +49

    Idk how I feel about the song, but the MV... It was just on another level

  • @ArtsyAme
    @ArtsyAme 2 роки тому +27

    Great breakdown of the MV!! However, a lot of people like you are saying “The concept fails to grasp the meaning of tomboy. They are NOT tomboys, they are dressed too feminine!” People saying that is the exact reason why this song was written in the first place. The whole song is a paradox: it is meant to represent the way people put women into boxes for everything they do instead of letting them be. The irony of the word “tomboy” while wearing feminine clothing is the evidence, and also the sentence “do you want a blonde barbie doll?” while they themselves represent dolls with dark hair. In the video, Idle is choosing to be “dolls” on their OWN terms, to be “tomboys” on their OWN terms. It’s also a way to represent how idols (not only girls, although they are the most common target) are put into perfect boxes of behaviour and looks.

  • @axlegindervald3016
    @axlegindervald3016 2 роки тому +14

    That’s why she put the phrase “you’ll get this song right you’ll get what I mean tomboy”

  • @gamingwithdonut7501
    @gamingwithdonut7501 4 місяці тому +2

    a little thing you notice if you watch it slowly, the cut out peices of paper or other objects actually say the lyrics! Like in the beginning the license plate says, "THIS IS MY ATTITUDE" which is in the chorus i think.
    Also this one: at 2:47 it says "NETHER MAN NOR WOMAN" which is another line

  • @ivannas5540
    @ivannas5540 2 роки тому +65

    To be honest if this song had maybe been released any other time I would have probably thought it was a pretty standard song with a pretty conventional message for K-pop nowadays (even if it is a bit more radical in its depiction of it). However SK's has a very heated political climate right now especially in terms of gender politics, all culminating in the fact that the newly elected president is considered by many to be an anti-feminist who many believe used misogynistic comments to gain the sympathy of male voters, many of whom are frustrated at the ever-increasing competitiveness of the job market and have blamed it at some sort of reverse gender discrimination. Given all this, I feel like the fact that (G)I-DLE decided to release this song during a time like this when it contains somewhat radical (at least in South Korean standards) elements like the line "neither man nor woman" or a depiction of them kinda murdering a man lol says a lot about their artistry and boldness in my opinion, even if the delivery of the song is itself a bit messy and confusing at times. And, don't get me wrong, this is not really me trying to label this song as political but rather trying to give credit to (G)I-DLE where credit is due, especially to Soyeon whose artistic decisions I do not always like but have to give major props to for always being extremely confident and authentic with her projects.

  • @zenk1l
    @zenk1l 2 роки тому +29

    8:59 It has 6 Balloons which reminds me of Soojin 😭

  • @ginnyisgigi
    @ginnyisgigi 2 роки тому +13

    A lot of fans think that tomboy is a song made for their ex member soojin. Soojin was known for being a tomboy and also for loving dance and the members and soyeon says that in her rap. Soyeon also mentions smoking, drinking, sex and swearing in her rap which is a few of the things that soojin was falsely accused of and the members are seen with moles under their eyes which is one of the signature points of soojin's appearence. Not only that but the song was the one of the first released after she was kicked out and it is an angry song which makes sense as soojin was innocent.

  • @yume_miko
    @yume_miko 2 роки тому +25

    8:26 "So I'm Ken. I'm this blonde, white boy that is getting kidnapped by I-DLE." OH MY GOD I'M DEAD

  • @straggot
    @straggot 2 роки тому +84

    i don't think You understood what they were trying to do by having a "tomboy" concept for the song 😭 but anyway great reaction i like seeing you talk about the transitions

    • @andreamiller8123
      @andreamiller8123 2 роки тому +2

      I thought the sam. Plus, he didn't even finish the whole video, or at least thats what I see.

  • @tasnim5803
    @tasnim5803 2 роки тому +37

    Were you waiting for this comeback?? Aw never expect that you'll upload reaction video of "Tomboy" mv this early.

  • @athenas1384
    @athenas1384 2 роки тому +11

    Soyeon the leader writte and producer all songs from debut, and she is Akali in K/Da
    She is amazing

  • @louie9447
    @louie9447 2 роки тому +16

    omg thank you for no introduction, its so much better when you click a video and the content is there right away ❤

  • @thatskykid342
    @thatskykid342 2 роки тому +4

    Fun Fact (that 83% of ppls know): Tomboy is actually used as a Filipino word for Lesbian:)) but different pronunciation

  • @yasminchan7425
    @yasminchan7425 2 роки тому +13

    Soyeon absolutely KILLED the concept

  • @MsKareboo
    @MsKareboo 2 роки тому +14

    It surprises me that u didn’t notice what they mean for “Tomboy” being an Editor yourself, literally you can see it since the beginning of the video.

  • @mateopineda.7847
    @mateopineda.7847 2 роки тому +37

    soyeon said “you get the song right?” but definitely you DON’T

    • @Minecraft231h
      @Minecraft231h 2 роки тому

      SHE KNEW SOME PPPL WONT UNDERSTAND SUCK A QUEEN LMAOISJEKW😭😭😭😭

  • @moonplaylist5411
    @moonplaylist5411 2 роки тому +25

    The word "TOMBOY" for others like fashion wear but in Phillipines, the word TOMBOY used to be called to the women who wears clothes, the style and act like a man.
    As a Asian Woman, sometime they scolded me to act like a lady but I can't. If they don't accept the attitude and respect of being tomboy, just let us be happy and be comfortable what attitude we showed to people.

    • @hellbunniez3
      @hellbunniez3 2 роки тому +1

      agree. this happened to me too as a child and it left me questioning my own identity for YEARS, hating that part of myself that was not traditionally feminine because they always said it in a negative way towards me and because it wasn’t the “norm.” as a result i associated the term as something odd and not normal, even toeing the line of being misogynistic towards my own gender. when i grew up i kind of shunned that old thinking that was influenced by my elders and the people around me by changing my mindset into not giving a flying frick and i’m really happy that i am the way i am. i’m born like this, i’ll live my life like this, i’ll be this person. i would’ve been so miserable if i gave in to the naysayers, and i really love that a song about rejecting stigmatisation about what being a girl is and being yourself came out. props to gidle on this one (and it’s a banging song to boot!)

  • @helen4311
    @helen4311 2 роки тому +10

    i really love this mv so much

  • @victora.fagundes1487
    @victora.fagundes1487 2 роки тому +19

    The fact that Jordan really looks like the Ken HAHAHA

  • @serohed6877
    @serohed6877 2 роки тому +6

    Thanks for the concepts! they were useful for understanding a bit more about the technical part about the video itself. However, I think you misunderstand what the group tried to tell with the tomboy thing. There are two very important lines that gives the hint: “you get the song right? you'll get what i mean, tomboy” and "neither man or woman, just ()I-DLE". Basically what they are trying to say it's they want to do whatever they want without being considered "girly" or "tomboy", they just want to be themselves.
    I mean, they pretty much say it in their live.

  • @raisxz
    @raisxz 2 роки тому +8

    I WAS LIKE “Jordan should react to this” WHILE WATCHING TOMBOY AND AFTER WATCHING THE WHOLE MV I SAW THIS VIDEO

  • @HeraCythera
    @HeraCythera 2 роки тому +7

    Soyeon's charisma is out of this world

  • @sheenajoyechem8436
    @sheenajoyechem8436 2 роки тому +8

    8:05 Jordan and that doll Ken have the same hairstyle 👀

  • @morscertaa
    @morscertaa 2 роки тому +1

    idk if anyone has said this yet BUT. if you see a lollipop in a kpop mv it could very well be a stand-in for a cigarette. they can't show them on TV in SK so they just use lollipops to get the message across.

  • @dawnlochner3105
    @dawnlochner3105 2 роки тому +103

    I have been checking for you on this!!!! Luuuuuv you're positive energy!!! I always enjoy you educating us!!! 🤘
    *I think she means 'Im A fkkng Tomboy' just broken English* Maybe lol

    • @JordanOrme
      @JordanOrme  2 роки тому +7

      🤣🤣🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @asteriaaa_
      @asteriaaa_ 2 роки тому +10

      i think they bleep it so that they can perform/promote this song on music shows.

    • @tiakapoor8171
      @tiakapoor8171 2 роки тому +2

      But like many idols like blackpink also use curse words without getting bleeped (ㆁωㆁ) like pretty savage and others

    • @kirnstenespiritu3531
      @kirnstenespiritu3531 2 роки тому +8

      @@tiakapoor8171 but bp had to change those certain parts in order for pretty savage to be performed on music shows but they say that the CD version of it contains the swearing (including the other swear words that are in korean tho)

    • @tiakapoor8171
      @tiakapoor8171 2 роки тому +1

      @@kirnstenespiritu3531 OoO okie thanks for telling me I really appreciate it, I learnt something new (◕ᴗ◕✿)(ᵔᴥᵔ)

  • @Sabrea.
    @Sabrea. Рік тому

    I literally love when he looks at G-IDLE videos. Because I know so many k-pop mv videos are great. But for some reason I feel like G-IDLE has such god quality mv's

  • @mel7993
    @mel7993 2 роки тому +4

    This Music Video (and song) is just next level

  • @PeterVC
    @PeterVC 2 роки тому +12

    When I saw that transition where she steps on the photo, I knew you were gonna love it ;p

  • @k-aki9176
    @k-aki9176 2 роки тому +8

    Wow, I never has been this early, can't wait to see Jordan being shocked by Idle

  • @akuny9303
    @akuny9303 2 роки тому +1

    It's interesting how he breaks down the video. I mean, it's hard to editing the video so appreciate this guy! Thankyou for reacting!

  • @ramen7754
    @ramen7754 2 роки тому +23

    “do they know what a tomboy is” the girls that get it get it, the girls that don’t don’t

  • @d3st1nyformerlycean52
    @d3st1nyformerlycean52 2 роки тому +2

    9:29 if you notice, those are two very different frames flashing! Notice their skirt size by pausing the red screen! They are wearing the tuxedo/suit there but a red dress in the normal coloured part

  • @seanontroyreal9245
    @seanontroyreal9245 2 роки тому +33

    Tomboy is not only how you dress its how you act also.

  • @fonchi_0481
    @fonchi_0481 2 роки тому +3

    They are the best, song of the year 💜

  • @davinashi9394
    @davinashi9394 Рік тому +5

    Think of it this way, "yeah I'm f- tomboy" isn't grammatically correct if you don't really THINK about the song. It isn't just saying they are 'a' tomboy, they're saying they are 'THE' tomboy, representing the power and confidence they are implementing.

  • @greggrey7917
    @greggrey7917 2 роки тому +11

    i see the Power ⚡ of Soyeon
    i see the Heart ♥ of Minnie ,
    i see the Soul of Yuqi ,
    i see the Charm of Shuhua ,
    i see the Beauty of Miyeon ,
    i Feel the Flame 🔥 and Fire 🔥of Soojin in all the Members Hearts ♥ .

  • @cherL0us.
    @cherL0us. 2 роки тому +3

    THIS SONG IS SO ADDICTING

  • @angelic_flow3rs
    @angelic_flow3rs 4 місяці тому +2

    Notice how at 4:53 soyeon was making a cake, and at 7:51 both barbie and Ken were eating the cake that soyeon made

  • @Meyvagul61
    @Meyvagul61 6 місяців тому +6

    3:37 she says "Yeah, ı'm f*cking tomboy"

  • @MrHmmm98
    @MrHmmm98 2 роки тому +14

    She just blended Ken - I mean - I felt that one.

  • @shawnct1610
    @shawnct1610 2 роки тому +16

    "If you get the song right, you get what I mean Tomboy"

  • @derisyaher
    @derisyaher 2 роки тому

    the thing is no matter how hard i try to focus on the video-wise there is always something that i missed that's why i always come to your channel. thank you for always being positive and all the details you share with us lol.

  • @groovyc4496
    @groovyc4496 2 роки тому +8

    You missed the point of the mv tho :)(tomboy).....also the clothes do fit the pop punk /rock theme the song has.
    I loved the styles.

  • @warmth9649
    @warmth9649 2 роки тому +9

    The lyrics itself explains what their referring too. Cultural difference by word 'Tomboy', I'm Asian... I'll got wear Oversized shirt, sits comfortably, walk comfortably, yet a lot of people are telling me to act feminine and said that I'm a Tomboy. I'll be outgoing, hanging out with my friends, One joke will make me a Tomboy in their eyes...
    Tomboy isn't always about acting masculine when ur a girl or dressing up like a Boy. The comments in here explained it well.

  • @kelvie_w3315
    @kelvie_w3315 2 роки тому +1

    First time watching this MV through a professional editor's lens! Very well commented and thankful for learning to appreciate more about video editing!

  • @naniyomihayo8501
    @naniyomihayo8501 2 роки тому +50

    When they said "Just me loving tomboy " it felt like the doll " ken " is the tomboy, I dunno I'm still confused but addicted to the song

    • @JordanOrme
      @JordanOrme  2 роки тому +7

      Huh! That’s interesting

    • @i_nevie_die
      @i_nevie_die 2 роки тому +53

      I’m pretty sure Ken represents people that force gender stereotypes on them. “Loving tomboy” means the girls loving who they are and they’re comfortable being themselves, a mixture of feminine and masculine. And when they say they’re not a man or woman it refers to something Soyeon has said about being a female producer which is rare in Kpop and how she doesn’t want people to label Idle as women or a girl group because they are capable of doing the same things men do in the industry

    • @thundercloudss
      @thundercloudss 2 роки тому +3

      @@i_nevie_die Thank you for the enlightenment!

    • @judithkim4050
      @judithkim4050 2 роки тому +11

      @@i_nevie_die finally someone gets it 😭😭 I feel like I only ever see ppl missing the entire gd point of this song

    • @fullyasian98
      @fullyasian98 2 роки тому +4

      @@judithkim4050 well people like to be spoon fed.. And can't read between the lines... Basically they have the IQ of Patrick Star.... Idle killed this concept

  • @nyanperonachan4291
    @nyanperonachan4291 2 роки тому

    Jordan please remember taking care and sleeping well. Tysm for the explanations on the editing btw💚

  • @itzmuf_fin
    @itzmuf_fin 2 роки тому +5

    3:31 is it just me or is this the most funniest thing about the whole video~~~

  • @blackpink2005
    @blackpink2005 2 роки тому +1

    This mv has so much twists and it's cool btw

  • @dalylueur
    @dalylueur 2 роки тому +5

    Saw a filo comment that the 'tomboy' sentiment is the same as western. I'm also a fellow filo but i get their message. Overtime the 'tomboy' impression changes from based solely on their clothing to attitude. (but i also think it collides to one another at some point). It's not solely based on the clothing but the attitude. You see a girl acting boyish here in ph wearing girls clothing locals will say "oh she's a tomboy". I think the song is about breaking stereotype and just embracing the fact someone's being called a tomboy for some reason and mocking that same 'someone'. Being brave and confident about who they are regardless of anything. This is a timely message for what happened in the elections of their country. (it's purely coincidental i believe yet this is timely accurate). I guess they used a ken doll to mock because most of the time men are using the term tomboy to describe a girl especially the heavy mysoginistic tendencies in their country. (G)I-dle did a concept and a song up for discussion and they did it fairly well. The songs and MV are superb!

  • @ingfa_punpun80
    @ingfa_punpun80 2 роки тому

    After I watched the mv, I literally thinking of your reaction. Thanks for making it this early!

  • @materialgwurlllllll694
    @materialgwurlllllll694 2 роки тому +25

    I watched the mv at 6am on the school bus and literally the first thing to come to my head when I saw the transitions was "Jordan finna react to this isn't he" like I been staring at my phone waiting.
    I did notice the monster hint aswell, and the words "I don't wanna play this ping pong" was another reference to "Ping Pong" by HyunA and Dawn which I thought was cool. There are many other references as well.

    • @liliya701
      @liliya701 2 роки тому

      The 'ping pong' was used in the context of 'useless quick talk between the two' and not referencing HyunA and Dawn.

    • @materialgwurlllllll694
      @materialgwurlllllll694 2 роки тому

      @@liliya701 I heard ping pong and thought of it as that way you didn't have to correct me on it

  • @neavairimaa6785
    @neavairimaa6785 2 роки тому +1

    My first thought from seeing this mv was "ooooh I wish Jordan does video about this!"

  • @deadbird6585
    @deadbird6585 2 роки тому +6

    I loved seeing your reactions. Please react to any PIXY's mv you'll surely like it.

  • @saradanielabotelhorosa2187
    @saradanielabotelhorosa2187 2 роки тому

    At this point I dont know what I'm more excited for: the actual comebacks or Jordan's reaction.

  • @helloworldholly4552
    @helloworldholly4552 2 роки тому +5

    i loved the red theme and this and barbie LOL

    • @JordanOrme
      @JordanOrme  2 роки тому +1

      🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

  • @arrkeigee
    @arrkeigee 2 роки тому +2

    When I watched this MV, I was excited to see your reaction on it and I was not disappointed, hahaha

  • @haohaos
    @haohaos 2 роки тому +4

    I think what idle mean as "tomboy" like someone is like playing them which cause them from being a tomboy? Then they plan to kill the boy- WELL IDK IF THIS- yeah idk what I just talked about 😃👍

  • @muhammadzaheedsufian2922
    @muhammadzaheedsufian2922 Рік тому +1

    On the chorus that the one that you don't know it's actually "Yeah I'm f**king tomboy" that's it

  • @mel7993
    @mel7993 2 роки тому +7

    (G)I-DLE WORLD DOMINATION LET'S GOOOO

  • @sank0-061
    @sank0-061 Рік тому +2

    Ayyy one of my favorite k-pop songs ayyy

  • @makiintensifies7266
    @makiintensifies7266 2 роки тому +3

    You have to know the context, they said earlier that the song is a kind of "response" to fans who only criticize idols, there is a name for them but I don't remember it. Maybe "knitz" or something like that. It would seem that the word "tomboy" is just a symbolism of such criticisms. Anyway you would have to know if and how they use that word in Korea. (deepl translate)

    • @makiintensifies7266
      @makiintensifies7266 2 роки тому

      I don't know if the "you" is well used in my comment, I meant people in general, but it was translated that way. I'm still bad with English xd

  • @shimpiyaa
    @shimpiyaa 2 роки тому

    The music video looks insane plus their outfits 👁️👁️❤️ red white black combination.

  • @mfsatan
    @mfsatan 2 роки тому +5

    0:13 I love this part 😭

  • @Jiwoongie_
    @Jiwoongie_ 2 роки тому

    I LOVE how the video just starts immediately :)

  • @xim1545
    @xim1545 2 роки тому +9

    3:16 “Yeah, i’m fucking tomboy”

  • @mrlately
    @mrlately 2 роки тому

    i love how you're able to reference other kpop mvs that have similar stufg

  • @olivoliv2109
    @olivoliv2109 2 роки тому +3

    I just wanna speculate that this song has soojin in mind. In the allegations they said that she drank alcohol, smoked cigarettes - which are represented in soyeone rap. There are 6 baloons. I might be reaching tho xd

  • @vinicomsparkito6470
    @vinicomsparkito6470 2 роки тому +2

    I loved the song and the MV, they're queens