And then in typical Nopon fashion (or maybe even by Shulk's recommendation) they named the sword after the "Lucky 7" Nopon who were solid enough craftsmen to forge it.
Ouroboruses are fusions of two characters, and just based on the imagery it's looks like the basically self-sustain their lifeforce rather than stealing it. With that in mind, _Nia._ She is not just a Blade, but a Flesh Eater (and Driver). Most Blades can only sustain their physical forms with the assistance of another being to act as their Driver. Nia's Driver is effectively her sister, who can be argued lives on inside Nia enough to sustain Nia's form, and then the Blade's biology is able to sustain the donor as well. This is the case for all Flesh Eater's, but Nia is also the most potent healer in Xenoblade 2. The biggest weakness of a Flesh Eater is that while their human parts are kept alive from the rest of their biology, they still age and eventually decay giving the Flesh Eater a finite lifespan. Nia's absurd powers perfectly counter this letting her effectively heal her sister passively and _indefinitely_ without any decay. Nia and her sister basically feed off each other in a theoretically endless cycle, each sustaining the other. She's basically a self-contained Ouroborus. This just gets even better when comparing Ouroboruses as a whole to Driver-Blade pairs.
INTERESTING, I always wondered how she was able to create a device that essentially turned people into Bio mechs, but it looks like Ouroboros is a kind of product of the driver blade/ flesh eater system. Very interesting
@@Fermin-hw5pd Nah,no maid outfits and he wuld made them far more humaniod, none of the four eyes, black color scheme, glow bits. Also, it isn't tora designed cus the girl ouroboros don't have jiggle phyiscs like QT and QTPI did.
@@PJDAltamirus0425 I said that because her form is kinda hot, also, how more humanoid? It's literally a human body with rings on it's limbs, I don't think it can be more humanoid xd
@@Fermin-hw5pd It is less human looking than the poppi models and less human looking than the humaniod common blades. How many human have jet black skin, glowing yellow streaks and glowing eyes stuff and side ears?
Another thing about Oroborous that you didn't mention that also ties them to blades, is that when the party first awaken to their powers, its the Kevesi characters first who take control of the Interlink and actually moves, attacks and does stuff, while the Agnus party members support them. Much like how a Blade supports their driver.
A couple of things: When lucky seven is unsheathed, it looks like the monado 1, when it’s in Ouroboros form, it looks like the monado 2, and when it’s sheathed, it looks like the monado 3. The main characters from the previous games are also still alive post aionios, cuz after origin restarts it cuts back right to when the merging occurred, and since Tora was alive before the merging cuz he built origin, it’s safe to say that the rest of the cast of 1 and 2 are also alive post Aionios.
It's not quite clear if the other main characters are alive in Aionios. Yes, they were when it was first built, but either died of old age (maybe they were exempt from Homecoming?) Or are just normal NPC's since they don't retain their memories. However, Shulk and Rex are shown to be two of the founders mentors, so my guess is they broke free of their flame clock shakles and died a natural death. Pyra and Mythra probably went with Rex, while Shulk probably had his friends beside Melia die of old age.
We can confirm one death with certainty because of a grave behind one of the super bosses if you want to find it due to lader cheese it is possible to visit it and loot it without beating the boss just go under colony tau and find the level 90 dungeon
For the stuff around 6:30, I actually had the opposite interpretation. "The Sword of Origin," simply refers to the fact that it's a Sword from Origin, while "The Sword of the End" referenced its true power.
They use the names so inconsistently, I am of mind that The Sword of Origin is supposed to be Noah's uncorrupted on and The Sword of the End is Noah's corrupted one.
Watching these videos makes me realize a lot of people didn't even notice the amount of references that were in this game because they were caught up in wanting cameos.
People want things spoonfed to them. The glut of cameos and crossover movies have contributed toward that. It makes it so that subtle storytelling and in depth interpretation are frowned upon or dismissed. Now, there are times when I still think writers relying on "audience interpretation" can be a crutch, especially for endings of some stories. However, I think having some vagueness works in 3, because the game has a ton of clues and basically makes its thesis statement be about hope for the future and that they WILL see each other again.
Highly agree, they even made useless comparisons just to feed their copium and hopium addiction.. They'd rather see Shulk and Rex at the end (Which the game clearly did, just in a different way) which doesn't make sense plot wise..
@@vivid8979 Yeah it really seems to me that people let themselves get hyped up that there would be this massive amount of fanservice, when none of the games have really had that. I'm sure those feelings will settle in time, much like with XC2, but for the time being they have made it insufferable to be a person who actually enjoyed the game for what it is.
@@mortisknight860 As a veteran from Xenoblade 1 and 2's War I can indeed see that this is just a minor hiccup inside the fanbase. Waiting for the DLC story feels like waiting for eternity tho.
Regarding the fact that Noah can use a copy of Jin's Heavenly Disrupt, it was not lost on me that Lucky Seven is a nodachi with a silver blade and a black/purple hilt just like Jin's.
I really don't like how many unanswered plot points there was in 3... I don't mind some mystery, but theres a fine line between "letting the player figure things out" and "being too lazy to actually explain how things work" and I feel like 3 overloaded itself with too many mysteries and "gimmicks"
This is honestly so great, it shows on a gameplay pespective the evolution of the combat system and how this one grabs various elements from previous games, and how both parties, the characters we know and love, contributed to the fight for the future as much as we would've believed they had
Doesn't riku state that it's not the sword that matters per say but noah's will to shape the world. I guess in a sense it's like a key for him to tap into that power to channel the will of those who want to escape the endless now.
This video actually mirrored a couple of ideas I had in my head! But I didn't even think of the past characters being a course of power for our main cast through Origin's Collective Unconsciousness. Very strong point.
For every flame clock cut in 2. The original cast from both games were by Noah and gangs side. This is just poetic and I accept that as my head canon if not straight up canon.
I find this very compelling, as it presents a mind-body interpretation of quantum mechanics whereas the physical are particles, and the metaphysical are waves. Which again is pretty fitting for a Xeno series
You have a really comforting voice, I love listening to you talk about my favorite game series in the background while I'm cooking. Thanks for creating content 😊
Moebius really reminds me of Flesh and Blade eaters- specifically the prototypes we see at the end of Torna. The same way ouroboros reflect purer, successful flesh/blade eaters seen like Nia and Zeke
He’s gone before the construction of Origin so he wouldn’t be recorded in it, but it’s crazy to think that the one character most defiant against an ‘endless now’ is probably pre-experiment Klaus. Zanza on the other hand, with his whole cycle of death and rebirth as well as loose control over the passage of fate (allows free will etc for personal reasons like Z and is killed because of it) is most like Moebius. It would have been interesting to have had a hypothetical ‘evil’ half of Galea be someone who takes preserving the present too far like moebius too but again, not in origin. Meyneth showed resistance to tyranny, but this ‘Moebius Galea’ may have become jaded like the architect - although coming out with an opposite viewpoint that more control is necessary. I think something like this would’ve tied the whole ‘Klaus Arc’ together better if there was a less fan-fic sounding way to implement it well thematically.
Although Klaus may not have wanted an “endless now”, I and some others I’ve seen do think he’s still got a lot of Moebius in him due to Z’s other defining trait: the fear of change. The experiment he performed is considered by all, including himself, to have been a really bad idea, and this is in spite of the fact that, as he says, “we are even burning the skies below us”. Melia says at the end of XC3 that even if the people of either world come to do themselves harm in time, they can but carry on. Klaus had no hope in this belief, no hope in a future that could be changed by the human heart, so he looked to “the divine” for a solution. In a broad strokes way, this is echoed in 3 by the subconscious that formed Z having no faith in the future, and turning to Origin for a solution. But neither Klaus’s experiment nor Z’s endless now could stop the true nature of humanity, the will of Ouroboros, from re-emerging in the new worlds. That’s one way of seeing how 3 ties back to him. I hope it’s a compelling idea.
Honestly while I do wish we had answers to some of the bigger unanswered questions in this game I do really love how it gives us the opportunity to speculate even after the game is out, with the hope those speculations will be answered when the dlc arrives
I guess an interlinked ouroborous has more than two people inside of it… ;) Seriously though, this is such a cool concept. The souls within Origin who are afraid of what might happen during the merging of the worlds manifesting as and feeding Moebius, and the souls who want time to move on and to see the future providing power to Lucky Seven and Ouroborous, some of which may or may not include party members and allies from previous games. This is as much of a war among the souls in Origin as it is a war between the soldiers of Keves and Agnus!
Luxiin, my man. You have gotta make a video where you go down the rabbit hole. I mean the whole life/death cycle controlled by the Moebius is eerily similar to Zanza's cycle of destruction/rebirth, and also happens to remind me a LOT of what Jin says to Rex and co. in Temperantia after he kills Haze. And that just has to be the tip of the iceberg.
Even the Gormotti aren't immune. Juniper has a crystal on their shoulder. I don't know if that makes them an exception like Mio or if Gormotti just have crystals too now.
@@yoshifan2334 I did as well but (spacing for spoiler) When you get the painter sidequest late in the game, he wants you to pick one of your heroes to be the subject. If you bring Juniper, he first says they're perfect... except he's a Kevesi painting for other Kevesi, and thus the oddity of Juniper's ears being on top of their head instead of "normal" human location would throw the work off for its primary audience, and asks them if they can take the ears off. Juniper, nonplussed, says no.
@@AxionZetaOne ah, got the painter sidequest in one as Fiona seemed like a shoe-in for his description (either that or Miyabi as second choice), never thought to poke around at what he might say for other heros. Now I’m curious as to what he would have to say for Ashera lol
@@yoshifan2334 its basically "oh you're the suicide commander. Yeah nope." I do like that his response to Triton was "eh no, I've done a Consul already. Maybe later."
I think lucky seven isn't a replica monado, it's a real one, as far as aionios is concerned. The monados tap into the source code of the universe, and for aionios that would be origin. And lucky seven draws on the power of origin. Hence, it is a monado of aionios
Here I thought we were explaining the references outside of Xenoblade that these things were from. Since the video isn't doing that, I'll do it here: Origin and origin metal is basically referencing the Unicorn Gundam/Neo Zeong and psycoframe material in function. You need a certain aptitude (you need to be a newtype) to operate a psycoframe equipped machine and tap into its full power. The psycoframe can resonate with a powerful newtype to allow them to communicate with the souls of the dead and the psycoframe can also function as a medium of people's thoughts/wishes allowing for miracles to happen. Sounds pretty familiar to what was explained in the video right? As for the ouroboros forms, they're ultraman transformations. Specifically, they reference the transformation of Ultraman Ace who merged his being with a man and a woman and needs them to transform together to form him. The beeping and overheating is a reference to the color timer every Ultra has on their chest. The color timer is an indicator of how much energy/lifeforce an Ultra has before they need to revert to their human form(s) because if they exceed that time limit, they will die.
The ending of this video actually made me a little emotional, and I think that just goes to show how beautiful these games are, and how well written luxins script is
A surprisingly small detail I've yet to see talked about is Noah's power. In the cutscene where Garvel breaks his metal practice sword, Noah generated a sort of shockwave while practicing with it. The other characters react in a way that seems like foreshadowing, but that ability doesn't come back explicitly. This is before he even learns about the Sword of the End from Riku. So there's something special about Noah that we don't know about, and it might have to do with how he was able to move around when time stopped in Alcamoth.
Thank u so much, this cleared a lot of things up. Also, I just realised that the Noah we play as is the youngest protagonist in the Xenoblade series, as he is 9. Youngest party member is Poppi since we witness her creation
Going back and looking at Melia's conversation with the party is quite eye opening. Two Sword's of Orgin can exist in the world as one represents the endless now (N's Sword with the infinity symbol) and one represents the desire to move forward (Noah's Sword of Origin/Sword of the End). The Sword of the End isn't just a fancy name, the meaning is quite literal. It is the Sword that ends the endless now and the reign of Moebius. It's also a Sword of Origin as its made from Origin metal and is influenced by the souls within Origin. It also means that N was always going to become Moebius as pre-consul N always had a Sword of Origin with an infinity symbol on it.
I think Shulk might have been the one who created N's sowrd and after N became evil and took the sowrd with him the Nopons created lucky 7 as a replacement for it to give to whoever the next ouroboros would be
You actually answered one of my biggest questions- I had noticed the Ouroboros arts named after previous ones and had always wondered if the names I didn’t recognize were from prior Xeno games since I’ve only played the Xenoblade trilogy. Guess not.
Sword of the Origin/ Sword of the End are two things in my mind. The sword of the End is the base state of it, while the Sword of Origin is the upgraded form used by N later, and the one used by Noah as an Ouroboros. The sword of the origin draws on both sides of Origin, with the two powers combining into one form. That's why it's so much harder stronger, since it's now fully accessing Origin and the thoughts and power of all people.
This is kinda why I want a prequel to explain these things more clearly. I think the theory is solid, but I would like to see it confirmed with in game explanations. We learn about the creation of the Lucky Seven, and then when they fail to defeat Moebius, Melia and Nia devised a plan. Melia would allow herself to be sealed with Origin for the unforseeable future, so that she may use her will to power up the Sword of Origin for when the time would come that they can defeat Moebius.
In addition, Origin in and of itself is essentially an Artificial Titan. It hold the collective data of preexisting worlds, from which new life is created based off of. The two sides of Klaus individually created their own versions of Titans, and Tora and those working with him created Origin which is effectively an Artificial Titan, and Moebius create Ferronises from Origin, the original Ferronis.
Man the ending part hits quite hard with the ouroboros arts and lucky seven pulling from the wills of shulk and Rex because Lanz and Sena having ray of punishment and flame nova. In some cosmic sort of way Pyra and Mythra reunited into a single entity again through Lanz and Sena’s Ouroboros form and Pneuma was partially reborn in some capacity. A part of me wished lanz and sena had a third shared Ouroborus form to really hit home this aspect more but I can live without it. The only issue with this is coming up with something for Tion, Eunie and Mio so everyone had something unique to them 😅
Honestly this makes so much sense but even some gormotti have core crystals embedded in them! Juniper has one on their shoulder and other characters like Teach and Fiona also have them. If we are able to swap in multiple heroes into the party format like the dlc screen for the third wave implies bring able to play as them or just looking in the art book will be able to show these kinda of more hidden cores more easily.
In the special edition artbook Melia has Noah's sword in her room behind the painting and not the Monado REX. Please do a video on the artbook next! I found so much stuff that is interesting in it and would love to hear your thoughts.
How would core crystals be genetically present in the city's ouroboros candidates? If they are hundreds of generations deep? The dna of city residents at this point are probably not homogenous to agnus and keves. There must have been so much interbreeding going on unless there was a specific segment of the city that stuck to a 100% agnus lineage.
I hope your inquisitive mind will keep finding interesting topics of discussion before the DLC drops. I absolutely adore your video analyses and seeing them uploaded makes my brain go overdrive
theres also a cave in erythia that disables interlinking just like spirit crucible elps disabled blade combos. might not exactly be the same spot because we know elps is that sand island, but its got to be a reference to it.
I thought maybe some of the Urayan looking Agnians may not have had core crystals too but some Gormotti have cleverly hidden ones and with Taion confirmed to have one it sure does seem like all Agnians do. The easiest explanation would be something about how Origin stores data yet then Kevesi born from it would seemingly have them too (and it’s likely based on how Alrest was created which birthed people without cores) so I still am in the dark on how that happened. Unless Moebius only pulled people with cores from that side for their war for some reason and thus it’s just an Aionios thing.
I think it's possible that the old party members where reborn as keves or agnus soliders but eventually rebelled, joined the city, then reached their homecomings and passed away, never to be reborn again since as N says those who reach homecoming never come back. Well unless they become mobius like N and M did
just want u to know that ive spent an insane amount of time playing this game and watching ppl play this game and yet the first time I ever heard the climax for consul M's theme was watching your video today lmao
Another fantastic XC3 lore / analysis video ^_^ Gosh I'm scraping for as much content as I can find to tide me over until Challenge Mode, which really is just to tide me over till the DLC Story cause omgosh I need more XC3 in my liiife
I like the emotional touch you give to the end of the videos, the music and the message bring me back the moments I've enjoyed playing all this games and incorporating our heroes message. Changing topics, could you make us a video explaining the black fog? Now that we have FC and XC3, what did you think about this matter? I've read some interesting theories on the internet, but I would like very much to know your thoughts on it. Thanks!
I still think that Lucky Seven/Sword of the End is Alvis's sword. He was Monado in the beginning and he will be there to proclaim the end as well... and this thing is called Sword of the End. I just can't think of anyone else it could be. Even though Alvis/Ontos disappeared into another dimension it's possible it might have something to do with Aionios since Alvis is a seer of the future. Furthermore... if Alvis is Consul A it would make sense since Alvis is Alpha while Z is Omega AKA the end. The two might have opposed eachother and Z never knew there was a consul behind the creation of the sword of the end. This might explain how Melia and Riku know eachother cause the sword of Origin was passed down by Alvis or something. My headcanon right now is that Riki and Tora both worked on Origin and Riki is the only character in this game except Shulk, Rex, and Nia and Melia that has some small closure with his legendary biter being in a post game area implying he may have died there.
I don't think Riki has anything to do with it. Either the Sword of the end was forged thanks to Alvis, Shulk and/or a Nopon (Tora), or it was nothing like that and it was really a legendary masterpon who forged it. But I like the theory of it being Alvis's Monado. Though it's most likely Monado III, which disappears right after the final battle of Xenoblade 1.
I thought that Origin metal was suppose to be immune to annihilation effects so other potential Origin Swords couldn't have been lost/destroyed that way.
Even if that's true, other Origin swords could be lost due to annihilation events simply because of the location. Most likely an annihilation event destroys enough ground that the sword falls into the ocean below.
If I am not mistanken the sword that N use is the opodite/ mirrored versjon of Noa's sword. ( noa's "menado" cirkle points upp while N's " menado" cirkle points down.
Gotta say, this is a really good theory. Good enough to be actually confirmed by the eventual story expansion, perhaps. In particular, the similarity of the Lucky Seven to the Monado seems like too much of a tease to be purely a reference. Really feels like something they might work in if the DLC does end up being a flashback. Between the origin of the Lucky Seven(s), the founders, and the destruction of the first city by N, there are a lot of really strong hints toward a flashback story...
I'm gonna need another explanation of this stuff with the new Future Redeemed reveals. I've got some idea on how it all fits together, but pinning down the facts versus symbolic parallels versus theory is rough. SPOILERS FOR FUTURE REDEEMED AND RANTING FOLLOW: With our new understanding of Matthew's Fists of the End being tied to Pneuma's core and N's specific Sword of the End being violently suggested if not as neatly spelled out as Matthew's Fists and Pneuma's ties are, being tied to Logos, I'm really struggling to figure out (or maybe come to terms with?) why the hell it is that Lucky Seven is also referred to as Sword of the End? I understand its abilities that make it stand out as the Sword of Origin of course (I think to when they used it to resonate with and free the controlled soldiers under Moebius Y presumably by resonating with their data in Origin) but Lucky Seven doesn't hold the same tie to Logos as we understand N's to possess, its moniker as Sword of Origin comes before merging with N (X's comments during the fight in Agnus castle) but still after being called a Sword of the End, and thus before Noah would have inherited some of the Logos core. While it's possible that it was made more explicitly by Melia to resemble Alvis' Monado which would explain why it held greater control over Origin as the two were built off the same root schematics, and the entire "-of the End" title given to the two swords and gauntlets just encompasses these three key 'fragments' to the Trinity Processor where Logos' fragment in N's sword closely resembles Lucky Seven as Malos' own Monado already resembled Alvis' Monado, whereas I'd wager that Matthew's gauntlets almost don't even count when they literally contain Pneuma's 'true' core crystal itself (Glimmer's clearly showed no such capabilities), but being how they were at some point tied together justifies the naming convention (and I choose to believe that Pneuma's core crystal seemingly being lost to time doesn't actually complicate any of this and that it is not tied to Noah's arm when he unsheathes Lucky Seven) Good call on the true nature of Lucky Seven being the symbolic embodiment of the [past game's] friends we... lost?... along the way, but Luxin, good luck on answering the many other questions we now need answered.
Honestly, I think that the land of Challenge has something to do with some of this. Mainly the 'direct contact with another world thing. There's a possibility that I'm wrong, but, it's odd to see how it lines up with explaining how Lucky Seven basically uses a Jin move, when it's based off of Bionis' half of things. Plus, now looking back after we know what the plot of three is (even before when we got an general idea), it's like it was hinting to this exact thing happening. Shulk and Fiora being in Alrest and all that. Could easily argue that it's fan service, but I honestly think this is what it was meant to reference. Edit: The rings! The Rings that let Fiora and Shulk stay in Alrest! Oh crap, that could be part of the reason why Ouroboruse works!
With all that said I have one question left. Why did the Xenoblade 2 people who created Ouroboros...name it Ouroboros? We know thematically what the name represents, but who sat at the engineering table next to Tora and said "You know what'd be a sick ass name?..."
I think the reason the Lucky 7 is so sharp is because it's like a remote controller. As it's made from origin it is part of the core material holding this universe together. The equivalent would be a Bedrock Pickaxe in Minecraft. Bedrock is the one material that no tool, no matter how powerful, can cut into, even if in real world logic an enchanted Diamond pickaxe should be able to affect it. Bedrock is the hard coded ultimate component of Minecraft. Since Origin is the hard coded metal of Xenoblade, it can destroy the Flame Clocks. This is because the Flame Clocks are limited to the will of the people who want an Endless Now. They're the strongest tools in the game. Meanwhile the Lucky Seven is like opening the developers tools and deleting lines of code.
We do have another gormotti who we see has a core crystal. Juniper has one in her left shoulder. Odds are all the agnians are blades or some form of blade eaters, we just can't see their crystals.
@Luxin I had this idea for some time, Are the Nopon from the far-flung dimension? Why i think that is: 1. Chief Dunga power to for see the future in Xenoblade 1 2. Tatsu wanting to call the party homs in Xenoblade x 3. Nopon are not depicted in the tree of life when taking to the Klus in Xenoblade 2 4. They can't use nopon in the war made by moebius and there treaty to not to get involved in Xenoblade 3 5. there are nopon sage; nopon halfsage; and Nopon Archsage's and there powers. [the far-flung dimension is the place where Rax and pyra/mythra get there power from.]
Another explanation to where the party members from the first two games are is that because they’re clearly very strong fighters, when acting as soldiers for each nation they would’ve survived 10 terms and then experienced their homecoming, being removed from the cycle in the process. Plus then their wills would still contribute in origin. I just don’t agree that they wouldn’t have been soldiers. Not really any evidence to suggest that only children became soldiers. If anything there’s evidence to suggest adults did too since one of the founders (who looked very much like Shulk and almost certainly was) had information on his statue which said he had been a Kevesi soldier.
About Agnus Interlinks having two cores instead of one because of Mio, Sena, and Taion's Core Crystals, does that mean all the past Ouroboros teams made up of City soldiers only had one regardless of who was in charge? Assuming that City people stopped inheriting Core Crystals the same way they stopped inheriting Gormotti ears and High Entia wings in the present.
12:03 Clearly it means that Riki DID adopt Shulk, and Shulk is now Legally a Nopon.
Oh so that's how he got 7 of them to work together
And then in typical Nopon fashion (or maybe even by Shulk's recommendation) they named the sword after the "Lucky 7" Nopon who were solid enough craftsmen to forge it.
@@pamtheman5748 7 of them to work, period.
Ouroboruses are fusions of two characters, and just based on the imagery it's looks like the basically self-sustain their lifeforce rather than stealing it. With that in mind, _Nia._ She is not just a Blade, but a Flesh Eater (and Driver). Most Blades can only sustain their physical forms with the assistance of another being to act as their Driver. Nia's Driver is effectively her sister, who can be argued lives on inside Nia enough to sustain Nia's form, and then the Blade's biology is able to sustain the donor as well. This is the case for all Flesh Eater's, but Nia is also the most potent healer in Xenoblade 2. The biggest weakness of a Flesh Eater is that while their human parts are kept alive from the rest of their biology, they still age and eventually decay giving the Flesh Eater a finite lifespan. Nia's absurd powers perfectly counter this letting her effectively heal her sister passively and _indefinitely_ without any decay. Nia and her sister basically feed off each other in a theoretically endless cycle, each sustaining the other.
She's basically a self-contained Ouroborus. This just gets even better when comparing Ouroboruses as a whole to Driver-Blade pairs.
holy shit i never thought of it like that
INTERESTING, I always wondered how she was able to create a device that essentially turned people into Bio mechs, but it looks like Ouroboros is a kind of product of the driver blade/ flesh eater system. Very interesting
How did Jin stay young ?
@@ZaiDrizzleDrop dunno lol
@@ZaiDrizzleDrop He was just a perfect flesh eater just like Nia, only without healing
Missed opportunity for Tora to give the Ouroboros forms all maid outfits. Or maybe he tried, but got shut down by the higher ups.
He got slapped into sense by Brighid, probably happened with Ino to.
Wouldn't be surprised if Tora designed Mio's Ouroboros
@@Fermin-hw5pd Nah,no maid outfits and he wuld made them far more humaniod, none of the four eyes, black color scheme, glow bits. Also, it isn't tora designed cus the girl ouroboros don't have jiggle phyiscs like QT and QTPI did.
@@PJDAltamirus0425 I said that because her form is kinda hot, also, how more humanoid? It's literally a human body with rings on it's limbs, I don't think it can be more humanoid xd
@@Fermin-hw5pd It is less human looking than the poppi models and less human looking than the humaniod common blades. How many human have jet black skin, glowing yellow streaks and glowing eyes stuff and side ears?
Another thing about Oroborous that you didn't mention that also ties them to blades, is that when the party first awaken to their powers, its the Kevesi characters first who take control of the Interlink and actually moves, attacks and does stuff, while the Agnus party members support them. Much like how a Blade supports their driver.
A couple of things:
When lucky seven is unsheathed, it looks like the monado 1, when it’s in Ouroboros form, it looks like the monado 2, and when it’s sheathed, it looks like the monado 3.
The main characters from the previous games are also still alive post aionios, cuz after origin restarts it cuts back right to when the merging occurred, and since Tora was alive before the merging cuz he built origin, it’s safe to say that the rest of the cast of 1 and 2 are also alive post Aionios.
I was going to try and argue about Monado 3, but after looking at them both...
Sheathed it really kinda does look like it.
It's not quite clear if the other main characters are alive in Aionios. Yes, they were when it was first built, but either died of old age (maybe they were exempt from Homecoming?) Or are just normal NPC's since they don't retain their memories.
However, Shulk and Rex are shown to be two of the founders mentors, so my guess is they broke free of their flame clock shakles and died a natural death. Pyra and Mythra probably went with Rex, while Shulk probably had his friends beside Melia die of old age.
We can confirm one death with certainty because of a grave behind one of the super bosses if you want to find it due to lader cheese it is possible to visit it and loot it without beating the boss just go under colony tau and find the level 90 dungeon
Oh my god, the Shulk and Rex spirit idea at the end gave me a massive smile, that’s amazing!
For the stuff around 6:30, I actually had the opposite interpretation. "The Sword of Origin," simply refers to the fact that it's a Sword from Origin, while "The Sword of the End" referenced its true power.
Interesting, I never thought “said of origin “ literally meant “it’s a sword made of origin metal. That’s pretty cool
They use the names so inconsistently, I am of mind that The Sword of Origin is supposed to be Noah's uncorrupted on and The Sword of the End is Noah's corrupted one.
Watching these videos makes me realize a lot of people didn't even notice the amount of references that were in this game because they were caught up in wanting cameos.
People want things spoonfed to them. The glut of cameos and crossover movies have contributed toward that. It makes it so that subtle storytelling and in depth interpretation are frowned upon or dismissed.
Now, there are times when I still think writers relying on "audience interpretation" can be a crutch, especially for endings of some stories. However, I think having some vagueness works in 3, because the game has a ton of clues and basically makes its thesis statement be about hope for the future and that they WILL see each other again.
If you just look at the discussions on reddit, it's pretty clear most people bashing the ending didn't pay attention to the game itself
Highly agree, they even made useless comparisons just to feed their copium and hopium addiction.. They'd rather see Shulk and Rex at the end (Which the game clearly did, just in a different way) which doesn't make sense plot wise..
@@vivid8979 Yeah it really seems to me that people let themselves get hyped up that there would be this massive amount of fanservice, when none of the games have really had that.
I'm sure those feelings will settle in time, much like with XC2, but for the time being they have made it insufferable to be a person who actually enjoyed the game for what it is.
@@mortisknight860 As a veteran from Xenoblade 1 and 2's War I can indeed see that this is just a minor hiccup inside the fanbase. Waiting for the DLC story feels like waiting for eternity tho.
Regarding the fact that Noah can use a copy of Jin's Heavenly Disrupt, it was not lost on me that Lucky Seven is a nodachi with a silver blade and a black/purple hilt just like Jin's.
They were walking with us all along, "hand in hand."
I really don't like how many unanswered plot points there was in 3...
I don't mind some mystery, but theres a fine line between "letting the player figure things out" and "being too lazy to actually explain how things work" and I feel like 3 overloaded itself with too many mysteries and "gimmicks"
This is honestly so great, it shows on a gameplay pespective the evolution of the combat system and how this one grabs various elements from previous games, and how both parties, the characters we know and love, contributed to the fight for the future as much as we would've believed they had
Doesn't riku state that it's not the sword that matters per say but noah's will to shape the world. I guess in a sense it's like a key for him to tap into that power to channel the will of those who want to escape the endless now.
This video actually mirrored a couple of ideas I had in my head! But I didn't even think of the past characters being a course of power for our main cast through Origin's Collective Unconsciousness.
Very strong point.
Man you just keep making me appreciate 3 even more.
For every flame clock cut in 2. The original cast from both games were by Noah and gangs side. This is just poetic and I accept that as my head canon if not straight up canon.
Luxin: *cleverly sussing out important lore*
Me and Enel: Hmmmm Unison Strike on Noahboros? Suboptimal
I find this very compelling, as it presents a mind-body interpretation of quantum mechanics whereas the physical are particles, and the metaphysical are waves. Which again is pretty fitting for a Xeno series
Xenoblade has redefined what "sequel" means. It's fascinating how all three games connect to each other.
14:47 I thought you were gonna mention the purple and silver Zohar shapes in the Consuls’ chests
Walking every step with us towards the future? That's a really heartfelt sentiment honestly
You have a really comforting voice, I love listening to you talk about my favorite game series in the background while I'm cooking. Thanks for creating content 😊
Moebius really reminds me of Flesh and Blade eaters- specifically the prototypes we see at the end of Torna. The same way ouroboros reflect purer, successful flesh/blade eaters seen like Nia and Zeke
10:22 I believe even the Gormotti Agnians have them and are all blade eaters - Juniper had one near their shoulder
The Jungian psychology is the main reason I got into this game. I knew this game was going to be heavily about self reflection.
This made me oddly emotional. What a beautiful way of explaining everything.
Just finished the video and damn, this gives me a whole different look on Xenoblade 3. Amazing video luxin!!
He’s gone before the construction of Origin so he wouldn’t be recorded in it, but it’s crazy to think that the one character most defiant against an ‘endless now’ is probably pre-experiment Klaus.
Zanza on the other hand, with his whole cycle of death and rebirth as well as loose control over the passage of fate (allows free will etc for personal reasons like Z and is killed because of it) is most like Moebius.
It would have been interesting to have had a hypothetical ‘evil’ half of Galea be someone who takes preserving the present too far like moebius too but again, not in origin. Meyneth showed resistance to tyranny, but this ‘Moebius Galea’ may have become jaded like the architect - although coming out with an opposite viewpoint that more control is necessary. I think something like this would’ve tied the whole ‘Klaus Arc’ together better if there was a less fan-fic sounding way to implement it well thematically.
Although Klaus may not have wanted an “endless now”, I and some others I’ve seen do think he’s still got a lot of Moebius in him due to Z’s other defining trait: the fear of change. The experiment he performed is considered by all, including himself, to have been a really bad idea, and this is in spite of the fact that, as he says, “we are even burning the skies below us”. Melia says at the end of XC3 that even if the people of either world come to do themselves harm in time, they can but carry on. Klaus had no hope in this belief, no hope in a future that could be changed by the human heart, so he looked to “the divine” for a solution. In a broad strokes way, this is echoed in 3 by the subconscious that formed Z having no faith in the future, and turning to Origin for a solution. But neither Klaus’s experiment nor Z’s endless now could stop the true nature of humanity, the will of Ouroboros, from re-emerging in the new worlds.
That’s one way of seeing how 3 ties back to him. I hope it’s a compelling idea.
Honestly while I do wish we had answers to some of the bigger unanswered questions in this game I do really love how it gives us the opportunity to speculate even after the game is out, with the hope those speculations will be answered when the dlc arrives
I guess an interlinked ouroborous has more than two people inside of it… ;) Seriously though, this is such a cool concept. The souls within Origin who are afraid of what might happen during the merging of the worlds manifesting as and feeding Moebius, and the souls who want time to move on and to see the future providing power to Lucky Seven and Ouroborous, some of which may or may not include party members and allies from previous games. This is as much of a war among the souls in Origin as it is a war between the soldiers of Keves and Agnus!
Luxiin, my man. You have gotta make a video where you go down the rabbit hole.
I mean the whole life/death cycle controlled by the Moebius is eerily similar to Zanza's cycle of destruction/rebirth, and also happens to remind me a LOT of what Jin says to Rex and co. in Temperantia after he kills Haze. And that just has to be the tip of the iceberg.
I think lucky 7 is a reference to the fact that there have been 7 monados/aegis swords (pyra, mythra, pneuma, malos, zanza, meyneth, monado 3)
Even the Gormotti aren't immune. Juniper has a crystal on their shoulder. I don't know if that makes them an exception like Mio or if Gormotti just have crystals too now.
Maybe Juniper’s the child of a Gormotti and a Blade?
Wait, Juniper is Gormotti? I legit thought that was just their hairstyle and not ears
@@yoshifan2334 I did as well but (spacing for spoiler)
When you get the painter sidequest late in the game, he wants you to pick one of your heroes to be the subject. If you bring Juniper, he first says they're perfect... except he's a Kevesi painting for other Kevesi, and thus the oddity of Juniper's ears being on top of their head instead of "normal" human location would throw the work off for its primary audience, and asks them if they can take the ears off. Juniper, nonplussed, says no.
@@AxionZetaOne ah, got the painter sidequest in one as Fiona seemed like a shoe-in for his description (either that or Miyabi as second choice), never thought to poke around at what he might say for other heros. Now I’m curious as to what he would have to say for Ashera lol
@@yoshifan2334 its basically "oh you're the suicide commander. Yeah nope."
I do like that his response to Triton was "eh no, I've done a Consul already. Maybe later."
"gimmick" likely refers to the original meaning of the word (a magical apparatus) rather than the in-game mechanical gimmicks of each game.
I think lucky seven isn't a replica monado, it's a real one, as far as aionios is concerned. The monados tap into the source code of the universe, and for aionios that would be origin. And lucky seven draws on the power of origin. Hence, it is a monado of aionios
Here I thought we were explaining the references outside of Xenoblade that these things were from. Since the video isn't doing that, I'll do it here:
Origin and origin metal is basically referencing the Unicorn Gundam/Neo Zeong and psycoframe material in function. You need a certain aptitude (you need to be a newtype) to operate a psycoframe equipped machine and tap into its full power. The psycoframe can resonate with a powerful newtype to allow them to communicate with the souls of the dead and the psycoframe can also function as a medium of people's thoughts/wishes allowing for miracles to happen. Sounds pretty familiar to what was explained in the video right?
As for the ouroboros forms, they're ultraman transformations. Specifically, they reference the transformation of Ultraman Ace who merged his being with a man and a woman and needs them to transform together to form him. The beeping and overheating is a reference to the color timer every Ultra has on their chest. The color timer is an indicator of how much energy/lifeforce an Ultra has before they need to revert to their human form(s) because if they exceed that time limit, they will die.
That ending part about the collective conciousness and past characters being right with us was beautiful. Really lovely interpretation
The ending of this video actually made me a little emotional, and I think that just goes to show how beautiful these games are, and how well written luxins script is
A surprisingly small detail I've yet to see talked about is Noah's power. In the cutscene where Garvel breaks his metal practice sword, Noah generated a sort of shockwave while practicing with it. The other characters react in a way that seems like foreshadowing, but that ability doesn't come back explicitly. This is before he even learns about the Sword of the End from Riku. So there's something special about Noah that we don't know about, and it might have to do with how he was able to move around when time stopped in Alcamoth.
Rex: Yes, you can date me daughter
Noah: Really?
Rex: Just remember Rule 5…
Personally, I think Rule 3 is more important for this context. “Make a girl cry? That’s not gonna fly. Make a girl smile? You pass the trial.”
@@jasperjavillo686 No. Rule 5. It was a joke about unintended children.
DUDE thinking that Rex and Shulk were there all along with us helping and powering us up throughout our adventure is just so awesome and I love it!
Thank u so much, this cleared a lot of things up.
Also, I just realised that the Noah we play as is the youngest protagonist in the Xenoblade series, as he is 9. Youngest party member is Poppi since we witness her creation
Going back and looking at Melia's conversation with the party is quite eye opening.
Two Sword's of Orgin can exist in the world as one represents the endless now (N's Sword with the infinity symbol) and one represents the desire to move forward (Noah's Sword of Origin/Sword of the End).
The Sword of the End isn't just a fancy name, the meaning is quite literal. It is the Sword that ends the endless now and the reign of Moebius. It's also a Sword of Origin as its made from Origin metal and is influenced by the souls within Origin.
It also means that N was always going to become Moebius as pre-consul N always had a Sword of Origin with an infinity symbol on it.
Thank you Luxin for the great videos
I think Shulk might have been the one who created N's sowrd and after N became evil and took the sowrd with him the Nopons created lucky 7 as a replacement for it to give to whoever the next ouroboros would be
You actually answered one of my biggest questions- I had noticed the Ouroboros arts named after previous ones and had always wondered if the names I didn’t recognize were from prior Xeno games since I’ve only played the Xenoblade trilogy. Guess not.
Sword of the Origin/ Sword of the End are two things in my mind. The sword of the End is the base state of it, while the Sword of Origin is the upgraded form used by N later, and the one used by Noah as an Ouroboros. The sword of the origin draws on both sides of Origin, with the two powers combining into one form. That's why it's so much harder stronger, since it's now fully accessing Origin and the thoughts and power of all people.
Wow, thats really cool and loved the imagery you said at the end, I hope its all true, if its not confirmed in the end ill still headcanon it as this
LOL I’m with you every time I used “mega spinning edge” I heard Rex yelling it in my head
Nia literally uses a gamer buzzword to describe game mechanics.
I needed a Luxin video today
This is kinda why I want a prequel to explain these things more clearly. I think the theory is solid, but I would like to see it confirmed with in game explanations. We learn about the creation of the Lucky Seven, and then when they fail to defeat Moebius, Melia and Nia devised a plan. Melia would allow herself to be sealed with Origin for the unforseeable future, so that she may use her will to power up the Sword of Origin for when the time would come that they can defeat Moebius.
In addition, Origin in and of itself is essentially an Artificial Titan. It hold the collective data of preexisting worlds, from which new life is created based off of. The two sides of Klaus individually created their own versions of Titans, and Tora and those working with him created Origin which is effectively an Artificial Titan, and Moebius create Ferronises from Origin, the original Ferronis.
Man the ending part hits quite hard with the ouroboros arts and lucky seven pulling from the wills of shulk and Rex because Lanz and Sena having ray of punishment and flame nova. In some cosmic sort of way Pyra and Mythra reunited into a single entity again through Lanz and Sena’s Ouroboros form and Pneuma was partially reborn in some capacity. A part of me wished lanz and sena had a third shared Ouroborus form to really hit home this aspect more but I can live without it.
The only issue with this is coming up with something for Tion, Eunie and Mio so everyone had something unique to them 😅
The ending caught me off guard it was so sweet, almost made me cry lol. Good vid as always
Honestly this makes so much sense but even some gormotti have core crystals embedded in them! Juniper has one on their shoulder and other characters like Teach and Fiona also have them.
If we are able to swap in multiple heroes into the party format like the dlc screen for the third wave implies bring able to play as them or just looking in the art book will be able to show these kinda of more hidden cores more easily.
If any Blade would be THE Xenoblade it would be hilarious for it to be Lucky Seven. The most normal looking special sword in the series.
In the special edition artbook Melia has Noah's sword in her room behind the painting and not the Monado REX. Please do a video on the artbook next! I found so much stuff that is interesting in it and would love to hear your thoughts.
“All the Gormotti besides Mio”
Juniper’s core crystal can be clearly seen on their shoulder even in their official art
How would core crystals be genetically present in the city's ouroboros candidates? If they are hundreds of generations deep?
The dna of city residents at this point are probably not homogenous to agnus and keves. There must have been so much interbreeding going on unless there was a specific segment of the city that stuck to a 100% agnus lineage.
18:06 That reminds me. Do you think you'll make a video about The Photo? Plenty of potential for discussion on that.
I hope your inquisitive mind will keep finding interesting topics of discussion before the DLC drops. I absolutely adore your video analyses and seeing them uploaded makes my brain go overdrive
Wow thanks for making me cry there at the end 🥲
theres also a cave in erythia that disables interlinking just like spirit crucible elps disabled blade combos. might not exactly be the same spot because we know elps is that sand island, but its got to be a reference to it.
It's possible that cave is part of the actual cave of elpys, while the ruins of the third sword chamber ended up over at the sandbar, somehow
I thought maybe some of the Urayan looking Agnians may not have had core crystals too but some Gormotti have cleverly hidden ones and with Taion confirmed to have one it sure does seem like all Agnians do. The easiest explanation would be something about how Origin stores data yet then Kevesi born from it would seemingly have them too (and it’s likely based on how Alrest was created which birthed people without cores) so I still am in the dark on how that happened. Unless Moebius only pulled people with cores from that side for their war for some reason and thus it’s just an Aionios thing.
If i Recall right,
Wasn't that Called out In-game as A big difference?
Agnus has Core crystals, Kevesi has Power frames.
I think it's possible that the old party members where reborn as keves or agnus soliders but eventually rebelled, joined the city, then reached their homecomings and passed away, never to be reborn again since as N says those who reach homecoming never come back.
Well unless they become mobius like N and M did
So Melia and Nia gave "gimmicks" from their games to the player so we can triumph?
17:40 This feels so dang right. I never saw it like this, but I'm going to now.
18:07 This made me laugh so hard. I love it
just want u to know that ive spent an insane amount of time playing this game and watching ppl play this game and yet the first time I ever heard the climax for consul M's theme was watching your video today lmao
Another fantastic XC3 lore / analysis video ^_^
Gosh I'm scraping for as much content as I can find to tide me over until Challenge Mode, which really is just to tide me over till the DLC Story cause omgosh I need more XC3 in my liiife
Your actually spot on about ouroboros being based on the blade system.
18:00 - that is the best quote ever
I like the emotional touch you give to the end of the videos, the music and the message bring me back the moments I've enjoyed playing all this games and incorporating our heroes message.
Changing topics, could you make us a video explaining the black fog? Now that we have FC and XC3, what did you think about this matter? I've read some interesting theories on the internet, but I would like very much to know your thoughts on it. Thanks!
I still think that Lucky Seven/Sword of the End is Alvis's sword. He was Monado in the beginning and he will be there to proclaim the end as well... and this thing is called Sword of the End. I just can't think of anyone else it could be. Even though Alvis/Ontos disappeared into another dimension it's possible it might have something to do with Aionios since Alvis is a seer of the future. Furthermore... if Alvis is Consul A it would make sense since Alvis is Alpha while Z is Omega AKA the end. The two might have opposed eachother and Z never knew there was a consul behind the creation of the sword of the end. This might explain how Melia and Riku know eachother cause the sword of Origin was passed down by Alvis or something. My headcanon right now is that Riki and Tora both worked on Origin and Riki is the only character in this game except Shulk, Rex, and Nia and Melia that has some small closure with his legendary biter being in a post game area implying he may have died there.
I don't think Riki has anything to do with it. Either the Sword of the end was forged thanks to Alvis, Shulk and/or a Nopon (Tora), or it was nothing like that and it was really a legendary masterpon who forged it.
But I like the theory of it being Alvis's Monado. Though it's most likely Monado III, which disappears right after the final battle of Xenoblade 1.
I do want to note, when we see the final Noah die in front of his son, lucky seven stays.
I thought that Origin metal was suppose to be immune to annihilation effects so other potential Origin Swords couldn't have been lost/destroyed that way.
Even if that's true, other Origin swords could be lost due to annihilation events simply because of the location. Most likely an annihilation event destroys enough ground that the sword falls into the ocean below.
@@rileymartin8284 Yeah annihilation events shouldn't destroy them literally, but they could have been lost due to circumstance.
How does Origin metal actually survive the annihilation events in the first place? They never explain that.
This absolutely blew my mind
I think that it makes more sense that there were either only 2 or that they forged a new Sword of the Origin after N became a Moebius.
If I am not mistanken the sword that N use is the opodite/ mirrored versjon of Noa's sword.
( noa's "menado" cirkle points upp while N's " menado" cirkle points down.
Gotta say, this is a really good theory. Good enough to be actually confirmed by the eventual story expansion, perhaps.
In particular, the similarity of the Lucky Seven to the Monado seems like too much of a tease to be purely a reference. Really feels like something they might work in if the DLC does end up being a flashback. Between the origin of the Lucky Seven(s), the founders, and the destruction of the first city by N, there are a lot of really strong hints toward a flashback story...
Peak content as always!
I'm gonna need another explanation of this stuff with the new Future Redeemed reveals. I've got some idea on how it all fits together, but pinning down the facts versus symbolic parallels versus theory is rough.
SPOILERS FOR FUTURE REDEEMED AND RANTING FOLLOW:
With our new understanding of Matthew's Fists of the End being tied to Pneuma's core and N's specific Sword of the End being violently suggested if not as neatly spelled out as Matthew's Fists and Pneuma's ties are, being tied to Logos, I'm really struggling to figure out (or maybe come to terms with?) why the hell it is that Lucky Seven is also referred to as Sword of the End?
I understand its abilities that make it stand out as the Sword of Origin of course (I think to when they used it to resonate with and free the controlled soldiers under Moebius Y presumably by resonating with their data in Origin) but Lucky Seven doesn't hold the same tie to Logos as we understand N's to possess, its moniker as Sword of Origin comes before merging with N (X's comments during the fight in Agnus castle) but still after being called a Sword of the End, and thus before Noah would have inherited some of the Logos core. While it's possible that it was made more explicitly by Melia to resemble Alvis' Monado which would explain why it held greater control over Origin as the two were built off the same root schematics, and the entire "-of the End" title given to the two swords and gauntlets just encompasses these three key 'fragments' to the Trinity Processor where Logos' fragment in N's sword closely resembles Lucky Seven as Malos' own Monado already resembled Alvis' Monado, whereas I'd wager that Matthew's gauntlets almost don't even count when they literally contain Pneuma's 'true' core crystal itself (Glimmer's clearly showed no such capabilities), but being how they were at some point tied together justifies the naming convention (and I choose to believe that Pneuma's core crystal seemingly being lost to time doesn't actually complicate any of this and that it is not tied to Noah's arm when he unsheathes Lucky Seven)
Good call on the true nature of Lucky Seven being the symbolic embodiment of the [past game's] friends we... lost?... along the way, but Luxin, good luck on answering the many other questions we now need answered.
Honestly, I think that the land of Challenge has something to do with some of this. Mainly the 'direct contact with another world thing.
There's a possibility that I'm wrong, but, it's odd to see how it lines up with explaining how Lucky Seven basically uses a Jin move, when it's based off of Bionis' half of things. Plus, now looking back after we know what the plot of three is (even before when we got an general idea), it's like it was hinting to this exact thing happening. Shulk and Fiora being in Alrest and all that.
Could easily argue that it's fan service, but I honestly think this is what it was meant to reference.
Edit: The rings! The Rings that let Fiora and Shulk stay in Alrest! Oh crap, that could be part of the reason why Ouroboruse works!
Update: lucky seven is actually fiora. I will not explain this further
did…luxin already forget about the founders statues?
Imagining Tora working with Shulk puts a smile on my face.
"It's like poetry, it rhymes."
With all that said I have one question left. Why did the Xenoblade 2 people who created Ouroboros...name it Ouroboros? We know thematically what the name represents, but who sat at the engineering table next to Tora and said "You know what'd be a sick ass name?..."
Nia did after dismissing her first idea of snake arse eaters or syncer as not dignified enough. We learn she created the stones after all.
Also on Moebius, they have cross like shapes around their cores
lucky 7 is the 7 nopon who "crafted" it, as in they are literally it, the same way alvis is the monado
my favourite part of this video is when talking imagining rex telling noah he can date mio
I think the reason the Lucky 7 is so sharp is because it's like a remote controller. As it's made from origin it is part of the core material holding this universe together.
The equivalent would be a Bedrock Pickaxe in Minecraft. Bedrock is the one material that no tool, no matter how powerful, can cut into, even if in real world logic an enchanted Diamond pickaxe should be able to affect it. Bedrock is the hard coded ultimate component of Minecraft.
Since Origin is the hard coded metal of Xenoblade, it can destroy the Flame Clocks. This is because the Flame Clocks are limited to the will of the people who want an Endless Now. They're the strongest tools in the game. Meanwhile the Lucky Seven is like opening the developers tools and deleting lines of code.
We do have another gormotti who we see has a core crystal. Juniper has one in her left shoulder. Odds are all the agnians are blades or some form of blade eaters, we just can't see their crystals.
Xenoblade Chronicles 3 really is Xeno fan service to the umpteenth degree!
@Luxin I had this idea for some time, Are the Nopon from the far-flung dimension? Why i think that is:
1. Chief Dunga power to for see the future in Xenoblade 1
2. Tatsu wanting to call the party homs in Xenoblade x
3. Nopon are not depicted in the tree of life when taking to the Klus in Xenoblade 2
4. They can't use nopon in the war made by moebius and there treaty to not to get involved in Xenoblade 3
5. there are nopon sage; nopon halfsage; and Nopon Archsage's and there powers.
[the far-flung dimension is the place where Rax and pyra/mythra get there power from.]
10:30 does this still work even if the people of the city who we know dont have core crystals can and have interlinked in the past?
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Another explanation to where the party members from the first two games are is that because they’re clearly very strong fighters, when acting as soldiers for each nation they would’ve survived 10 terms and then experienced their homecoming, being removed from the cycle in the process.
Plus then their wills would still contribute in origin.
I just don’t agree that they wouldn’t have been soldiers. Not really any evidence to suggest that only children became soldiers. If anything there’s evidence to suggest adults did too since one of the founders (who looked very much like Shulk and almost certainly was) had information on his statue which said he had been a Kevesi soldier.
About Agnus Interlinks having two cores instead of one because of Mio, Sena, and Taion's Core Crystals, does that mean all the past Ouroboros teams made up of City soldiers only had one regardless of who was in charge? Assuming that City people stopped inheriting Core Crystals the same way they stopped inheriting Gormotti ears and High Entia wings in the present.
This was so good.