How to cable manage a computer

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  • @cormacstapleton9295
    @cormacstapleton9295 5 років тому +377

    finally a tutorial that doesnt just do the best case scenario with custom length cablemod cables

    • @lotus_exe7903
      @lotus_exe7903 4 роки тому +7

      Ehm linus tech tips...

    • @Twin713
      @Twin713 4 роки тому +11

      fuck linus sponser tips

    • @IronMan-jj2fd
      @IronMan-jj2fd 3 роки тому

      Yeah but the actual video starts at 6:16 so much bullshit at first

  • @Sedirex
    @Sedirex 4 роки тому +681

    20:47 "That's better cable-managed than some systems I've seen that have 1 hard drive."
    I feel personally attacked.

    • @markiemax1180
      @markiemax1180 4 роки тому +8

      Honestly same😂

    • @viktorplatson4121
      @viktorplatson4121 4 роки тому +9

      That is nothing - I feel personally demolished...

    • @joeysplats3209
      @joeysplats3209 4 роки тому +10

      Did you report the video as "targeted harassment" and have the channel banned?

    • @venividivici4253
      @venividivici4253 4 роки тому +4

      Sedirex Suck it up.... He spoke the truth. Why don’t people take pride in building a system anymore? My cable management is on par with Jay. It makes it easier to diagnose if a problem occurs vs a rats nest that can take a long time to dissect. Do it right from the start. Spend time with the cables and give them a girls name. 🤣

    • @theSpian1
      @theSpian1 4 роки тому +3

      @@venividivici4253 r/woosh

  • @stugryffin3619
    @stugryffin3619 5 років тому +478

    Cable management begins at 6:08

  • @TSteffi
    @TSteffi 6 років тому +200

    I've been building PC's since the mid 90's, and never cared about the look at all.
    After watching Jays vids for about 2 years, now i have a color-themed (black/red) PC with full sidepanel window, AiO liquid cooling, LED fans and properly managed sleeved cables.
    Thx Jay, you are awesome :)

    • @Dooblecaine
      @Dooblecaine 5 років тому +10

      Was about to post the same thing. Been building PCs for over 20 years, never cared about the cable management. Planning on a new build (with this same case no less!), and this video was very helpful to me. After this will be untangling the spiderweb of wires behind my desk. eeep!

    • @RyRyTheBassGuy
      @RyRyTheBassGuy 5 років тому +13

      We never cared because how the hell did you manage IDE cables in those old cases? The best we could do was those "round" ones. Never mind routing behind the motherboard!

    • @chris99103
      @chris99103 5 років тому +1

      lol consumer victim

    • @chloedevereaux1801
      @chloedevereaux1801 4 роки тому

      @@Dooblecaine have you bollocks

    • @impyrobot
      @impyrobot 4 роки тому +2

      @@chloedevereaux1801 20 years ain't long that would be since about 2000 which is perfectly believeable

  • @Jayztwocents
    @Jayztwocents  6 років тому +534

    I messed up a couple of the color correction points on this video :( oops. Totally on me, not Phil.

    • @iRunTech
      @iRunTech 6 років тому +8

      Unless it turned black and white. I'd say you missed no color ^_^.

    • @PupShepardRubberized
      @PupShepardRubberized 6 років тому

      wags wags hi jay

    • @robbritton3213
      @robbritton3213 6 років тому

      it is ok

    • @TheDyingScotsman
      @TheDyingScotsman 6 років тому +13

      Hey Jay! I discovered your channel a couple of weeks ago and I have been watching tons of your vids. I fucking love you man. Never change.

    • @zerphase
      @zerphase 6 років тому +1

      @jayz ever thought about networking all of your computers together, and charging a low price for using incredibuild or distcc on your systems?

  • @Don_Frahn
    @Don_Frahn 4 роки тому +20

    Watched this video last night with confidence that I can finally manage my cables properly. Today I tore down my system and redid everything. The cable management is worse than before lol back to the drawing board. Hats off to those with cable management patience 👏

  • @shaarky1112
    @shaarky1112 6 років тому +294

    for SATA power cables in your case, I'd do first cable for 1st, 3rd, 5th and 7th and the second cable for 2nd, 4th, 6th and 8th HDD so you dont need to make a loop

    • @zeteris
      @zeteris 6 років тому

      Finally ! You go up.

    • @nawarelsabaa
      @nawarelsabaa 6 років тому +51

      I don't think that'll work. That would force him to bend the cables around the in-between HDDs (around HDD 2 in case of 1 and 3 being connected and so on), and I don't think those flat cables are gonna bend that easily.

    • @h3iberg456
      @h3iberg456 5 років тому +2

      Nawar El Sabaa I see what u mean, but they do work, they will bend easily (easier than shown on video even) and I think its better protected cables. bending the way Jay did is fine anyway.

    • @TwinShards
      @TwinShards 5 років тому

      @@nawarelsabaa Well, it's pretty easy to split the plastic of the flat cable to make them easier to make more like a square of cable on this short distance and wont really affect the look.

    • @nikolaydjendov2665
      @nikolaydjendov2665 5 років тому +4

      I think he split the power connections and make "the loops" couse the side's for raid....? Correct me if I am wrong, but that is the only logic I saw. P.S. It really grinded my gears when I saw that "ponytail" sata's :D

  • @christopherp.8485
    @christopherp.8485 6 років тому

    That looks really clean, nice job! I saw many computer shops make awful messes with so little cables to have to work with.

  • @richiec7700
    @richiec7700 6 років тому +163

    Cheap trick for mock-up: use the twist ties that usually come with builds as temporary cable ties. Easy to remove and re-use, then once everything is in place, remove and replace each twist tie with a Zip Tie.

    • @gregorymoody8990
      @gregorymoody8990 6 років тому +3

      glad I'm not the only one who thought of this props.

    • @reblz2858
      @reblz2858 6 років тому +3

      You can also grab a load of them from grocery stores (;

    • @Easelgames
      @Easelgames 6 років тому +2

      I wouldn't reccomend that as a lot of people will have it all done and just get lazy and not replace them. Which then leaves metal wires in the case. Not great...

    • @NurmYokai
      @NurmYokai 6 років тому +2

      Surprised your comment isn't anchored to the top. It's a must-do if a builder doesn't want snipped plastic pieces all over the place. Used to do that with old school stereo systems, and continued the technique with computer builds.

    • @ERrnesST
      @ERrnesST 6 років тому

      evga also has cable management grommets

  • @19thHour
    @19thHour 6 років тому +297

    I...I just realized that I don't use my front panel HD audio jacks but I took great care in routing the cable properly, plugging it in, and managing the excess length when I could have just... *TUCKED IT INTO THE BACK WITHOUT PLUGGING IT IN.* Well, live and learn.

    • @Labolas2Glasya
      @Labolas2Glasya 6 років тому +6

      19thHour lol same thing here

    • @bluephreakr
      @bluephreakr 6 років тому +51

      Those connectors are occasionally useful for guests. Even if you are not going to use them now, I follow the logic of "Make it available" so later on if you need another audio connector you're not looking like a buffoon because you neglected to have it available to you.

    • @RighteousLight8055
      @RighteousLight8055 6 років тому

      May I join the club ?

    • @Fareke2
      @Fareke2 6 років тому +2

      Yeah i dont use it too. I have USB headphones but still this cable management is good my pc lokk like a mess

    • @AdriansNetlis
      @AdriansNetlis 6 років тому +1

      I was reusing my old case and I found one cable sticking out that had some wires out of their plug. I concluded that it hasn't worked before anyways so I probably don't need to plug it in as I never used it. I then unplugged it from old motherboard and read - HD audio :D

  • @moitoi4064
    @moitoi4064 3 роки тому

    Very clean work Jay, congrats. As a marine electronics engineer I have done quite a few installations of navigation equipment onboard ships, dealing with a mountain of cables each time thus I can tell how neat your cable management is.

  • @jeffprice6565
    @jeffprice6565 4 роки тому

    I have exact same R6 Case and the cable placement is fantastic. So easy to create a clean system build.

  • @dragon2knight
    @dragon2knight 6 років тому +80

    Cable management in a nutshell: Planning, some trial and error, finishing. Rarely does it get finished off on the first attempt. Unless you've used the same case multiple times, it's just the way it is. So worth it, though, in the end. Nice tutorial, Jay.

    • @Speed_7545
      @Speed_7545 6 років тому +2

      matt depends on the case, some cases are very easy amd others alot harder

    • @mal2ksc
      @mal2ksc 6 років тому

      I've had the same case for over 15 years (three builds), so yeah, cable management comes pretty naturally on my own system.

  • @WhitentonMike
    @WhitentonMike 6 років тому +7

    @JayzTwoCents, Just a suggestion from experience: If you connect the MB SATA to the top 4 drives and the RAID controller to the bottom 4, the lengths will work out better. Reason, the MB SATA connectors are at the front of the MB and thus closer to the bays so the cables can reach the top drives. The RAID controller will be a short card commonly and you will need the length from the lower drives to reach the SATA RAID connectors.
    Connecting the MB SATA cables to the bottom drives wastes the added length you will need later.

  • @TheAffanHabib
    @TheAffanHabib 6 років тому

    I have so much respect for you, Jay. You are so humble and like-able.

  • @gojeran
    @gojeran 6 років тому

    Awesome video Jay. Just built a PC tonight for a friend and while my cable management had gotten better with each build this still helped give me some good ideas. Now I want to redo my main rigs cables.

  • @samuraisalesman2566
    @samuraisalesman2566 6 років тому +52

    Jay, you should talk with a case manufacturer and try to get them to do a collab and create what you think would be the ultimate cable-management case. Maybe something like hollow rails or spaced case covers to run the cables *inside* the case itself or whatever, I think you'd come up with something really cool.

    • @combatwombat7795
      @combatwombat7795 6 років тому +1

      Samurai Salesman he should host a design contest

    • @NorAlienEuqcab
      @NorAlienEuqcab 6 років тому +3

      Yep I've gone through many a case asking myself why don't the manufacturers of cases think about this in their design.
      Having said that, this box is one of the better ones I've seen.
      Thanks for the suggestion. 👍

    • @thesimsfan12
      @thesimsfan12 6 років тому +2

      NZXT H700i Check out the cable management in that Case and come back!

    • @devyn5919
      @devyn5919 6 років тому +2

      Samurai Salesman basically describing FD r6

    • @DumbSloth87
      @DumbSloth87 6 років тому

      That fancy $950 Singularity Spectre case is what you're looking for.

  • @Denstoradiskmaskinen
    @Denstoradiskmaskinen 5 років тому +4

    Great job! 8 HDDs And 3 fan water cooler in the front, on a mid tower, +2 ssd !
    21:13 complete and yet so clean main compartment, wow

  • @josephmurphy1097
    @josephmurphy1097 6 років тому

    Hey man, just wanted to say I'm only a recent subscriber - know this probably won't be seen, but just wanted to say I love the channel and the way you explain things in your videos in a really chill way. I've been saving for some 12 months after moving overseas, so i've been watching to try and get my head around some things because it's been YEARS since I've built a PC. Always looking forward to new content, so I check it out every day. Hope the studio changes keep rolling well!

  • @bradpigott8883
    @bradpigott8883 5 років тому

    Just about to build my first "modern" case build. Been about 7 years since I put together a tower and this has helped heaps, thanks!!

  • @HaulinWulf
    @HaulinWulf 4 роки тому +3

    This was an relaxing and in some sort hypnotic video. "stick it in, make a loop, stick it in, make a loop..." I loved it!

  • @PURP_PLAYS
    @PURP_PLAYS 6 років тому +156

    you make me wanna jus re do my cmputer lol

    • @mrdanman8114
      @mrdanman8114 6 років тому +2

      yeah me too xd

    • @yannickloos7884
      @yannickloos7884 6 років тому +1

      same lmao

    • @MindBlowerWTF
      @MindBlowerWTF 6 років тому +2

      but then You would have to You know, not use it for a sec :P

    • @xGxPhantomZzz
      @xGxPhantomZzz 6 років тому +3

      MindBlowerWTF That is the problem

    • @Chuckiele
      @Chuckiele 6 років тому +2

      Me too but I know that I cant do better because the power cables are all way too short, damnit xD

  • @b.v.skijump432
    @b.v.skijump432 6 років тому

    Very helpful. I have to install 6 drives in my upgrade build and now I have a good idea of how to manage them. The best trick I gathered in this video is the zip tie the cable in bundels. Thanks for that jay.

  • @grimwest1222
    @grimwest1222 3 роки тому

    This was fantastic! Thank you for going through this cool set up - definitely taking some notes.

  • @michaelkosciesza645
    @michaelkosciesza645 6 років тому +51

    I'd be curious to see how you set up the system to work as a server, render machine, etc. Please make a vid on that. Thankssssss.

    • @juliansbrickcity5083
      @juliansbrickcity5083 6 років тому +2

      petabyte project is not an unraid but I think jayz server will be. It is easy to setup and use. But I hope he is not buying a raid controller, he needs a HBA or dumb sata controller for unraid.

    • @carlwells9504
      @carlwells9504 6 років тому

      Ditto

  • @vetern7929
    @vetern7929 6 років тому +3

    Jay, one thing I’ve done with my builds having multiple HDDs is to alternate every other HDD with the SATA power. It will eliminate the loops and still create a nice smooth appearance. Something about the loops has always bugged me...

  • @ReeseKaine
    @ReeseKaine 5 років тому

    Just started work the other day on a gaming build that uses this case, and I found that placing the rig on a towel makes it easier to spin around if I need to switch sides quickly and safely.

  • @timcrna2980
    @timcrna2980 6 років тому

    Thanks Jay! This is a great video. Just finished another build and I am going to go back into it and redo my cables with the ideas you have here. Very nice.

  • @iUmarFarooqi
    @iUmarFarooqi 6 років тому +3

    How to Connect Cables? - The Cable Guide
    Every newbie PC Builder would appreciate something like that, Including myself.

  • @kamirkaze
    @kamirkaze 6 років тому +343

    *Can someone teach me how to life manage like a pro?*

    • @maxair95
      @maxair95 6 років тому +43

      Zip tie, WD 40 & duct tape, Good luck

    • @pr0xZen
      @pr0xZen 6 років тому +1

      Subscribed.

    • @astropirate4645
      @astropirate4645 6 років тому +3

      Don't blow it.
      Keep it simple.
      Count your money.

    • @rexrexxington6932
      @rexrexxington6932 6 років тому +1

      Win the lottery.

    • @patrickwilson7309
      @patrickwilson7309 6 років тому

      and when they do, you can teach me, and i can teach and so on

  • @collinallen5356
    @collinallen5356 4 роки тому

    I didnt like how the actual video based on the title didnt start until after 6min in... BUT... after the cable management started, it was a perfect/amazing diy video and I thank you! I have 2 or 3 pc building youtubers I watch and this was by far the best of this topic!

  • @DirtyDane14
    @DirtyDane14 6 років тому

    Honestly, didn't think I would learn much from this video (even though I'm no professional by any means), but this was an extremely helpful video. Thank you so much for taking the time to make this and show us how it should always be done.

  • @joshuadelacruz3907
    @joshuadelacruz3907 6 років тому +24

    This type of video is what I love about JayzTwoCents channel.

  • @charlesgentry9825
    @charlesgentry9825 6 років тому +9

    Thanks Jay, this was very informative. I'm redoing my rat nests on both my builds. Needed this video! A+ Good job

  • @hammer9856
    @hammer9856 6 років тому

    Oh what a tangled tale Jay weaves in this video... Great job!

  • @jedsanford7879
    @jedsanford7879 6 років тому

    Your vids are really easy to watch bro. It makes it kinda fun to watch instead of jackass jokes while I am trying to learn how to build better

  • @stelioskotsifos2227
    @stelioskotsifos2227 5 років тому +98

    Damn it Jay.... Now I want to open up my case and redo my cables :P

    • @zaksullivan4093
      @zaksullivan4093 4 роки тому

      same

    • @adamduffield7782
      @adamduffield7782 4 роки тому

      Ditto

    • @Being_Jeff
      @Being_Jeff 4 роки тому

      I want to replace my old Antec 900 case with a one with room to cable manage!

    • @kmanglass427
      @kmanglass427 3 роки тому

      Agreed

    • @Xachremos
      @Xachremos 3 роки тому

      Got a new PSU coming tomorrow. Need to get my shit together this time. Put in a drive on friday and damn i had to force that back panel on its a mess.

  • @andrewlee9508
    @andrewlee9508 5 років тому +26

    I'm quite late into watching this video (out of interest to see what people have to say about cable management)... here's my $0.02. You have a fantastic vertical arrangement of 8 hard drives... and you have two strips of 4x SATA power cables... One improvement on cable management is to skip a hard drive between SATA connections on the same cable, or one cable deals with hard drives in odd numbered slots, the other cable deals with hard drives in even numbered slots. In other words, for your build, the first 4x SATA power cable is connected to hard drives 1, 3, 5 and 7; the second 4x SATA power cable is connected to hard drives 2, 4, 6 and 8. That way you don't have to fold the power cables to tamp them down. With flat cables, they'll look like a braid... aesthetically it may or may not be everybody's cup of tea, unless you have a solid back cover, which means who really cares?

  • @slimefudge
    @slimefudge 6 років тому

    This is hands down the best cable management tutorial video out there. Wonderful explaining and beautiful result :thumbsup:

  • @Chaosdude341
    @Chaosdude341 4 роки тому

    Jay, thank you for popularizing aesthetics in PC building. It helped me to think of how to not just make my PC effective, but also beautiful. Thank you.

  • @vega1287
    @vega1287 6 років тому +3

    i once cable manadged my table and didn't use any zip or twisty ties the way the cables are held in is thair stiffness pressing them in to the cable chanel

  • @preferredimage
    @preferredimage 6 років тому +5

    A trick I've used for many drives in a stack is to power then up as drive 1,3,5,7 and 2,4,6,8 that way the power cable isnt bent over each drive and helps space things out. Also, I don't see any 90 degree sata cables being used. getting some 90 left and 90 right cabled would help flatten down all the data looms coming off those drives. And a question about the case, do the drives come out from the front side of the case or do you have to remove the entire sata power/data looms to get a drive out?

  • @chrisdillon3439
    @chrisdillon3439 4 роки тому

    this is just what i needed to see and it is so similar to the amount of hard drives i have but cables are always a pain to tidy up. thanks for the video.

  • @wolfchacer0139
    @wolfchacer0139 5 років тому +2

    Amazing video and top notch cable management, Great work Jay!
    I always use the 90 degree bent Sata data cables. There's plenty of room here for the ones you used but those 90 degree ones are made for that reason.

  • @N0N0111
    @N0N0111 6 років тому +21

    +JayzTwoCents
    And try to separate the power cables as much you can from data cables.
    Power cables can have interference on data cables.
    Another good logic is, try to bend the cables as *less* you can.
    This is even more important on data cables then power cables.

  • @tjcummings5249
    @tjcummings5249 4 роки тому +6

    I wish I would have seen this earlier I just built my first pc and from the front where the window is all the cables are hidden but... the back side isn’t so beautiful my cables are a tangled mess and I played hell getting the lid on

  • @mamdouh-Tawadros
    @mamdouh-Tawadros 5 років тому +1

    Excellent tutorial. I have enjoyed it, it was well organized, and natural logical flow of things. Thank you.

  • @GingerBeardicus
    @GingerBeardicus 6 років тому

    Nice video! I would like to see a follow up video at some point when you need to do maintenance on the server eventually, to see how well management like this plays out in retrospect.
    That case looks like it’s my top pick for my next build, as it looks really well thought out.

  • @PhlipPhlop13
    @PhlipPhlop13 6 років тому +15

    No right-angled SATA cables? I find those are an excellent way to handle/improve cable management for drives in that configuration.

  • @RandySidberry
    @RandySidberry 5 років тому +6

    Is there a second part to this video?
    What Raid did you use?

  • @Boragon77
    @Boragon77 6 років тому

    Oooo, 6 mins in and I can already feel the new editing style. Totally badass!

  • @ianlong4704
    @ianlong4704 6 років тому

    I literally just finished my new build less than an hour ago. I came over to my phone and saw this now. My cable management was a mess. I really needed this about 12 hours ago.

  • @kevinavila9489
    @kevinavila9489 4 роки тому +37

    This can't be right, I didn't see this in the Verge video, everyone knows that was the bible for building a PC.

    • @vanixiii5657
      @vanixiii5657 4 роки тому +6

      IKR?! Where's his livestrong bracelet and how dare he call them "zip-ties" clearly they're tweezers

    • @Raulz
      @Raulz 4 роки тому +4

      @@vanixiii5657 Where is the swiss army knife that hopefully has a screwdriver??! This is blasphemy!

    • @simonsays1507
      @simonsays1507 4 роки тому +1

      My gosh! Where’s the brick? Calling it a power supply is *terribly wrong!*

  • @ossme
    @ossme 6 років тому +10

    I used a Ryzen for a similiar build (just with an R5) and believe it is a better choice. (x1800, 32GB ECC memory, 10x 8TB drives, 2x250GB SSD for boot, 2x 512GB Nvme drives for cache).

    • @EricTanGH0ST
      @EricTanGH0ST 6 років тому +1

      ossme how's the temp of everything may I ask. I worry the case may have some airflow issue.

    • @ossme
      @ossme 6 років тому +2

      It is working great! I have a total of 7 fans in there. The only major heat source is the GTX 1070

    • @DefineHatespeech
      @DefineHatespeech 6 років тому

      ossme what are your temps under load ?
      I’m actually building a custom pc from ground up at the moment, went with r5 2600 and evga gtx 1070, have yet to put it all together though. I’m curious to hear how your setup is running temp wise

    • @bazonga9085
      @bazonga9085 5 років тому +3

      ossme
      That’s a lot of hentai

  • @nelsnash
    @nelsnash 6 років тому

    Definitely some clean work! I too get obsessive with my cable management after building a few thousand systems haha. Heck, it takes me longer to cable manage than it does to assemble!
    One thing I've done in the past with tons of hard drives, to keep the sata power cables at equal lengths, is to alternate power from one cable to the next. Therefor keeping the base length nearly identical and shortening the extra loop length between drives. Makes for a cool effect too! Occasionally I have also removed the sata power plugs and re connected them at exact lengths to each drive. SUUUUPER clean! Man I miss building systems!

  • @rickjones5713
    @rickjones5713 6 років тому

    Well done Jay, looks really clean! So now we need an updated video of this with the mess of extra RGB cable management headaches ...Looking at you Corsair!

  • @cestarianinhabitant5898
    @cestarianinhabitant5898 5 років тому +49

    "7:36 They're called tweezers!" - The Verge

  • @MattHalpain
    @MattHalpain 5 років тому +9

    14:57 good tip to know to bend the zip tie at the end to get it through the tiny loop.

  • @JayBirdyo
    @JayBirdyo 6 років тому

    Thank you so much for the pro tips. I'm often building friends PC's after getting into PC gaming. I definitely learned quite a bit. So awesome you used the case I plan on getting for my next build.

  • @WraithWTF
    @WraithWTF 6 років тому

    Nicely done video on a rarely-discussed topic...only thing I do extra in a build with lots of drives is labeling both ends of the SATA cables...makes tracking a cable and/or finding a bad drive that you're trying to replace way easier.

  • @OxKing
    @OxKing 6 років тому +137

    And then you notice the PSU isn't working. 😌

    • @egyptian316
      @egyptian316 6 років тому +2

      That exact thing happened to me today. Took forever to troubleshoot too, because the PSU was pumping enough power to turn the RAM LEDs on, but nothing more.

    • @LeFabio
      @LeFabio 6 років тому +30

      Test run before puting it into a case? Anybody? No? Okay..

    • @ujiltromm7358
      @ujiltromm7358 6 років тому +4

      Fabijan Rehorić // Bingo!
      Always test-run before building. Since I usually work with SFF cases, test-runs have become an absolute must. My first SFF build I didn't test-run, had to tear it down to reseat the CPU and only then it worked.

    • @shinren_
      @shinren_ 6 років тому

      Ujiltrom M how do you test run it when you dont have everything plugged into place??

    • @egyptian316
      @egyptian316 6 років тому

      No excuses. I haven't built a PC in 8 years, so a lot of lessons were forgotten.

  • @juliusblom3750
    @juliusblom3750 6 років тому +6

    Don’t know when I’ll actually be able get my hands on a video card to do some cable management of my own so I’ll just watch you do it instead.

  • @Vinconex
    @Vinconex 4 роки тому

    Thank you good sir, all I ever get is my cable management is horrid but no "this is how you do it" THIS explains more in about 10 minutes than years of everyone giving me poor reviews on management instead of SHOWING me how to do it properly

  • @mica4977
    @mica4977 3 роки тому

    This was truly helpful, thank you for the walkthrough!

  • @_Subieboy
    @_Subieboy 6 років тому +15

    So clean 😍

  • @aarondagneau8609
    @aarondagneau8609 4 роки тому +7

    20:47 "That's better cable-managed than some systems I've seen that have 1 hard drive."
    *sigh* i have an m.2 and this thing is more cable managed than mine

    • @colinboyle7955
      @colinboyle7955 3 роки тому

      ya so do i just shove my cables in my pc because im lazy LMAO

    • @joaoverdadeiro
      @joaoverdadeiro 3 роки тому

      I have an m.2 too, and i do not see the drives as problem, but the thing is that case fans and their cables take the mess to another level... spent 3 hours yesterday to try and better manage the cables, and that was a moderate success. Though if i had hard drives, i'd be more screwed than i already am.

  • @carlwells9504
    @carlwells9504 6 років тому

    One of your best Jay! Super clean cable management! Saved for future reference- I have a couple of computers to put together soon so will come in usefull.

  • @Klasus357
    @Klasus357 4 роки тому

    Interesting video, i just made my new PC and i think the cable management behind is good, but in front not so much for a good looking, hoping to learn something new from this video, the few methods you said are already good to improve my knowledge and tecnics about it, to position first the cable and don't tie them too much before i see where to put all of them.

  • @autotalon
    @autotalon 6 років тому +17

    I configure servers/network equipment for a living and I would never recommend using an Intel raid controller for anything you care about. Get a newer Adaptec or LSI card and you'll be much better off. We've had too many speed/reliability issues with RST Raid for me to recommend them. If I could pull them all out of production, I would.
    Edit: Also cringing a bit at the drive setup but you dont do it every day so i wont hate, just dying a little inside without a hotswap backplane

    • @ryanreeves8986
      @ryanreeves8986 6 років тому

      I think its because it needs direct passthrough to run unRAID. You don't want to use a proper hardware raid controller (well the features at least) . You want a controller using IT mode.

    • @autotalon
      @autotalon 6 років тому +1

      He's using it as a "workstation" though. How would he pass the physical disks through? HyperV at least doesnt really let you do that, I think Virtualbox might but there's no way in hell i'd run a server in Virtualbox (had a half broke WDS once because of that)
      EDIT: Also you can get a controller that runs JBOD mode for something like that, there are plenty of those. They're called HBAs.

    • @ryanreeves8986
      @ryanreeves8986 6 років тому +3

      No, i *think" he's planning on using unRAID for the OS, and creating a passthrough VM using the GPU similar to what Linus did. Ideally you would use a HBA set to IT mode, or a flashed raid controller like the LSI 9211 (which is what i use). I don't think JBOD is the same. The unRAID OS needs bare metal access to the disks without the raid controller doing its thing. This enables proper SMART reporting etc. Google unRAID, you might find it interesting if you've never heard of it

  • @Neuro1989
    @Neuro1989 6 років тому +86

    That PC must weight a ton.

    • @obundeawiwi6668
      @obundeawiwi6668 6 років тому +3

      Neuro the r6 alone is 15 KG

    • @TheGunman889
      @TheGunman889 6 років тому +1

      Neuro only if you lift it ! :D

    • @Camride
      @Camride 6 років тому +3

      I built an almost identical build a few months ago as my home VMware server. Yes, it's freaking heavy as hell.

  • @Fiendir
    @Fiendir 6 років тому

    One of the best purchases I ever made was a roll of quality double-sided velcro strip, the same kind that comes with the Fractal case.
    Cut them a little bit longer than you think you'll need, do your cable management without needing to commit to any specific layout, then trim off the excess so they take up minimum space.
    Zip ties are probably the tightest fit tight and do the job damn well, but single time use and might have you cutting cables if you're rushing it or being plain careless.

  • @g1zmo85
    @g1zmo85 6 років тому

    Easily the part I need to work on most, I have a single M.2 drive and my cables management looks crappy, even though the case has plenty of solid cable management options. Thanks for this video Jay!!!

  • @MatthewWeiler1984
    @MatthewWeiler1984 6 років тому +6

    What about the other 7 drives?

  • @pikerdm7466
    @pikerdm7466 6 років тому +6

    put a Noctua NF-D15 on that CPU, they never fail I have had 2 of them for the last 5 years and they cool verry well. you can even add the new cromax stuff if you want it to look good.

  • @crainger
    @crainger 6 років тому

    My Gunmetal R6 has been delayed until March 16 and here is Jay managing cables in one. A thousand broken SATA connector upon you sir!

  • @svenkraker
    @svenkraker 6 років тому

    Loved the video, every easy to follow and looked awesome

  • @gavincarl8105
    @gavincarl8105 6 років тому +4

    For the drives, it would have been better to plug one cable into every other, and the next into the remaining ones. wouldn't have to bend the sata cables

  • @jesse-dg8yx
    @jesse-dg8yx 6 років тому +150

    I've dealt with probably around 20 sata drives in my life and I've always pulled on cables and stuff and have never broke one of those plastic tabs

    • @shuylermample9544
      @shuylermample9544 6 років тому +24

      I've actually had problems with the connectors on the cables breaking before the connectors on the drive breaking... not to say I'm not careful when installing or servicing them. Jay's recommendations on this point are still valid.

    • @Chuckiele
      @Chuckiele 6 років тому +18

      I was about to write the same thing, cable managed many hard drives quite violently and not a single connector failed, didnt even think about that being an issue.

    • @kar351
      @kar351 6 років тому +5

      Never broke one too...and I am constantly changing drives or plug in new ones to take stuff to friends or so. In the worst case scenario, I end up needing to replace the sata cables due to the excess bending.

    • @BossManSays
      @BossManSays 6 років тому +3

      They're built to take a beating but like all plastic things they have their limits because some dumbass tries to hulk it.

    • @ebshadow89
      @ebshadow89 6 років тому +13

      Jay is probably coming from a place of past experience. Shit happens.

  • @guitarPTH
    @guitarPTH 6 років тому

    great video man. studio looks sick. good stuff jay

  • @nelsonsantospt
    @nelsonsantospt 6 років тому

    Great video! Please post the follow up video with the software install of the server.

  • @sebschrader
    @sebschrader 6 років тому +5

    Why are you not using a SAS controller and SAS cables? You can connect 4 SATA drives with just one cable. Besides, there are no good SATA controller cards out there, that I would want to trust my data with. Go with something like an Avago 9361-16i. Additional benefit: You don't need to split the hard drives between onboard controller and external controller.

    • @jerseystechlife1143
      @jerseystechlife1143 6 років тому

      Sebastian Schrader I am new to enterprise hardware and I am planning an unraid server inside a 12 hot-swap rosewill server case. My question is which sas card works best with unraid?

    • @sebschrader
      @sebschrader 6 років тому +1

      I have no experience with unRAID, but because it's just Linux, I assume anything that works well with Linux, will work well with unRAID, if they provide a decent Kernel with all necessary drivers/modules, which I assume they do, if they provide storage software. In my experience LSI (now Avago/Broadcom) controllers are good choice. Pick one that has the proper PCIe interface for your mainboard (e.g. PCIe 3.0) and enough ports, that would probably be the -12i or -16i models in your case, otherwise you will need a SAS expander to connect more drives. The number stands for the number of lanes and the "i" for internal connection. In your case, I would recommend, that you use the controller just as dumb HBA without its hardware RAID capabilites and use the Linux software RAID provided by unRAID. This way, you are not dependent on LSI controllers, if something fails. You can just plug your hard drives in any other Linux machine and reassemble the RAID. And you can use all the flexibility that Linux RAID offers (changing RAID levels, resizing etc.). The performance benefit of hardware RAID, especially on a dedicated device, is most often not worth the hassle.

    • @jerseystechlife1143
      @jerseystechlife1143 6 років тому

      Sebastian Schrader thanks for the information. I will look at that brand of cards.

    • @BluePedroN17
      @BluePedroN17 6 років тому

      I totally understand the point of a dedicated RAID card if you're going the hardware-RAID route, but if you're just doing software-level RAID, what's the point of using the RAID card aside from the extra ports to connect the drives? (Asking strictly out of curiosity.)

    • @sebschrader
      @sebschrader 6 років тому

      There are no good (reliable, high-performant) SATA cards out there. The SATA HBAs that are out there are based on the Marvell 88SE9128 or ASMedia ASM1061, which are not good. The SATA controllers inside the Intel or AMD chipsets are much better, but they are not standalone. Mainboards offer enough SATA ports for most customers, that's why there is not enough market demand for a high-performing SATA HBA. And why would you design such a controller, if you could build a SAS controller instead, where you have much larger market? So if you want something decent, you have to buy a SAS controller and they almost always offer at least some RAID levels, but you don't have to use it.

  • @jesse-dg8yx
    @jesse-dg8yx 6 років тому +3

    If you do an update video pleasee tell us the weight of it?

  • @thegasman7161
    @thegasman7161 6 років тому

    I'm building a brand new home media server right now in exactly the same case, using the exact same Seagate 10TB drives, minus the GPU ! Keep up the good work Jay.

  • @Markinpuff
    @Markinpuff 6 років тому

    That was very nice cable management technique. I learned something here... Time well spent. These videos matter.

  • @GrandBOI
    @GrandBOI 6 років тому +74

    Guys it shows the IP @ 1:32 LIKE SO JAY CAN SEE!!!

    • @ksmashgamer5748
      @ksmashgamer5748 6 років тому +5

      Grand noticed that

    • @elicantu5725
      @elicantu5725 6 років тому +47

      Well that’s awkward 😅 1. Because he unintentionally revealed his IP and 2. Because he wasn’t using the VPN service he was promoting

    • @benbonney
      @benbonney 6 років тому +13

      it doesnt matter, its not a public IP address, you wont be able to access his computer without going through his ISP

  • @truckerallikatuk
    @truckerallikatuk 6 років тому +28

    Why not alternate the sata power cables? Then you'd not have the loops to deal with...

    • @toriawelsh7274
      @toriawelsh7274 5 років тому

      Then the loops just get in the way of the next set of alternating connectors. The way he did it is just fine plsu if anything goes wrong with a drive's connection, he can easily see which drive and replace it easier etc. Just my 2 cents.

    • @brohvakiindova4452
      @brohvakiindova4452 4 роки тому +3

      @@toriawelsh7274 wouldn't it be possible to put every second HDD upside down? so you got first connection on the left side, second on right side etc.

    • @mattevans1643
      @mattevans1643 4 роки тому +1

      @@brohvakiindova4452 wouldn't change the fact that the cable would still be in the way. There is no way around it. You either make the loops. Or have a cable underneath another cable. Sure it'll work. But what's the point.

  • @tonyandreola1
    @tonyandreola1 6 років тому

    Excellent Video Jay, makes me look forward to my next build.

  • @DoomWalker42
    @DoomWalker42 6 років тому

    Thanks Jay for all your time and effort you go through to make such good quality videos for us. You didn't have to make this tutorial but you went ahead and did it anyways like a boss.
    Sincerely,
    - A fan

  • @KrogTV
    @KrogTV 6 років тому +3

    Would YA just LOOK at it?!

  • @SalandFindles
    @SalandFindles 6 років тому +4

    That saturation/hue switch @ 5:35. What happened there?

    • @gyorgysanta145
      @gyorgysanta145 6 років тому

      It turned into fancy build-montage with music mode. :D

    • @krallopian
      @krallopian 5 років тому

      @@gyorgysanta145 Happens on a lot of his videos. I assume it's just a precomposition inside of After Effects that the editor reuses, once it shows up, there's a slightly visible transparency issue. Always bothered me, but I never see people comment on it =D

  • @tobiasmunkes5576
    @tobiasmunkes5576 3 роки тому +1

    Am I the only one who thinks it's so satisfying seeing a bunch of hard drives stacked on eachother?

  • @NYCamper62
    @NYCamper62 3 роки тому

    At 8:50 ish where the fan header on the define 7 is at the top cables should route correctly to the right and down. I hope so I just bought one. Video was helpful thanx Jay.

  • @ryanreeves8986
    @ryanreeves8986 6 років тому +12

    Server with no ECC RAM? Surely it's worth it and recommended even if using unRAID. I get its sponsored, but a hot swappable Norco / Supermicro 16 bay with ECC RAM would have been better imo. This is still cool, don't get me wrong, but i wouldn't class it as server grade. Cabling is boss though.

    • @Stonehenge81
      @Stonehenge81 6 років тому +4

      Agreed, I thought it was interesting that he decided not to use ECC memory. I'm also curious to hear his reasoning for it, which I'm sure there has to be one.

    • @ryanreeves8986
      @ryanreeves8986 6 років тому +1

      Yeah, i get that you have backups of your data etc, but i wouldn't want to keep my home pictures / videos on a "server" without it. In his case, i assume it's all his UA-cam videos, so just as important

  • @joshua_lee732
    @joshua_lee732 4 роки тому +6

    I wanna see Jay try to cable manage a case that doesn;t do 70% of the work for him

    • @venividivici4253
      @venividivici4253 4 роки тому

      Joshua Lee I’ve done it on pre built systems with ease that don’t have cable tie down points.

  • @michaelg1532
    @michaelg1532 4 роки тому

    Just put all of my parts into a new case. Was able to do /some/ cable management. The hardest part was the dangling case fan wires that plug into the smart controller, and the power supply cables. My cables are not flat, they're all round.

  • @ice9tom
    @ice9tom 5 років тому

    Its useful to know about the fragile parts. Thanks.

  • @shadow306k
    @shadow306k 6 років тому +15

    So I still have to buy multiple Define r6's if I want extra drive trays, got it...

    • @christophermoore1730
      @christophermoore1730 5 років тому +1

      No fractal has them on their website for to buy two at a time for the R6

  • @joshua41175
    @joshua41175 6 років тому +18

    Jay here's a content idea. Jayz guide to: X. Where you go through various manufacturers sites and explain things such as: naming scheme's, product skews, and market niche. This would help your viewers in many ways and might also help you become more familiar with current production level products.
    For example: building a thermal take loop what with the galvanic corrosion scare, ek's easy peezy configurator, alphacools German, swiftechs 2002.

    • @MrQuequito
      @MrQuequito 6 років тому +1

      A thermaltake what? You seem to be new here, jay hates thermaltake

    • @LionheartTM
      @LionheartTM 6 років тому +1

      Zzzzzz content. We come here for PC porn XD

    • @joshua41175
      @joshua41175 6 років тому +2

      MrQuequito it's just an example of a confusing situation for the consumer.

    • @joshua41175
      @joshua41175 6 років тому +1

      Black Eye Pranks can't have a porno without a producer.

    • @joshua41175
      @joshua41175 6 років тому

      But you guys are right, this does seem more like a "as fast as possible" or gamersnexus video.

  • @ChemoHerrera
    @ChemoHerrera 6 років тому

    I'm thinking seriously on redo my cable management, also i got some nice tips for my wife's computer, thank you for sharing this!

  • @asick3346
    @asick3346 6 років тому

    Best cable management video Jay! Great work.