Jim Steinman - For Crying Out Loud (1975 Demo)
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- Опубліковано 5 кві 2011
- An unidentified vocalist performs "For Crying Out Loud" with Jim Steinman on piano and backing vocals, on a demo recording from the musical "Kid Champion." (c) 1975. Uploaded with permission.
R.I.P Jim Steinman. And yeah, I'm really crying out load today. We love and miss you, forever!
A rare man who mad me cry from the first time I listened to his passionate expressions of angst and loss.
part of me.
@@TruthrConsequences which first time?
I made this music video for Jim right after he died. It felt like he was whispering to me. ua-cam.com/video/Bzw99CIHMlg/v-deo.html
I will keep listening to old Jim Steinman demos forever.
RIP Jim Steinman, you were a legendary songwriter.
The world cried out loud in pain
An Era is over, sleep well, my friend.
Love this song, probably my favourite Jim Steinman composition. Most beautiful love song ever written, there are no words that can describe its brilliance. Meat Loaf’s voice singing it on Bat out of hell is astonishing , in the emotion it evokes. The piano is beautiful as well. Rest In Peace Jim Steinman, I am thankful for the legacy of masterpieces that you left behind. They will last forever, and I will enjoy them always.
Steinman was a great soul and composer, may he rest in peace.
Jim Steinmans songs were my child hood. His songs helped me through a rough upbringing. All I can say is, now you have your wings, with God's chior you will sing, because you're an angel in heaven. Thank you for your songs.
Jim Steinman forever a legend! RIP 1947-2021
My first concert experience was at 15 at Brisbane Festival Hall and the "Bat Outta Hell" tour.Jim and Meat both came out on the back of 2 roaring Harleys in full leathers.
Jim and Meat forever have my "Rock and Roll Virginity "
A once in a lifetime song writer who songs touches your soul gone but will always be remembered Heaven can no longer wait
It's a tragedy that this was never recorded in Jim's own voice. The greatest love song ever written IMHO.
I had the privilege of hearing Jim sing this endlessly in the days before he reached the "big time". It was beautiful but it didn't seem like such a big deal then--now omg--it seems epic and I so wish he had recorded it. I can't say for sure that he didn't ....
@@spacepunk2001 we can but hope that somewhere stuffed into a crate such a golden nugget exists. For you at least that mental recording exists in your memories x
@@spacepunk2001 Wow so awesome, your memories of Jim singing this must be so wonderful. I love Meat Loaf’s voice on BOOH singing this beautiful song, it really is the best song that showcases his voice at its best. I too hope someone, somewhere finds a “golden nugget “recording of Jim singing For Crying Out Loud. I quite enjoy Jim’s singing and would cherish it. 😀
@@spacepunk2001 I want to believe/pretend this is Jim! ua-cam.com/video/xTp4yOmduuo/v-deo.html
@@spacepunk2001 When did Jim tranform this into the rock epic on the BOOH album? Did Todd have any influence on that?
Great voice
Great composer
Great piano player
The steel guitar is giving this such a country vibe and I am digging it!!!
Jim Steinman is one of the most approachable talented musicians and writer of musicals that will ever live and he will go down in history and his music will live on through future decades to come. thank you Jim Steinman for all the musical moments that picked me up in times of woe.
i do wish that he had released more albums than just Bad For Good
Just in case anyone is interested, if you google, kid champion jim steinman, you will find the entire 45 minute album in the video section. Cheers.
Musical genius and I don't use that lightly. His songs are relatable, filled with passion, and it reaches down into the deepest recesses of your soul! Rock in Peace Jim!
And they had a priceless sense of humor.
This is the greatest song ever written! I cry every single time I hear it. Whether it by Jim or Meat Loaf
Both Meat Loaf and Jim Steinman described this song as Jim's masterpiece, neither this or Meat's version gets enough notice given to it.
no this isn't the masterpiece
Really? Do you have a source for that? I can imagine them saying that but this one isn’t my vote for top 3 Steinman songs… rhyming “chilly California wind” with “chilly California sand” never sat right with me lol
@@Whateverwhoification I did at the time, I should have taken note, but if I recall both were from video interviews, not easy to search back on for specific words.... but a quick search came up with this from Meat Loaf "By the way, I will argue with anyone that wants to argue with me on this point: I dare them. “Crying Out Loud” is the best love song in history. Please come and argue with me on this point. I’ll take you down every time" - Rolling Stone 23 April 2021 ua-cam.com/video/XtkXYKYGQJU/v-deo.html&lc=Ugy4MmbS1Hk54Obv6Rd4AaABAg.9YxF-xyDfte9ukJpk2v7iu
@@Whateverwhoification and as for that specific lyric, Steinman claims it was part of his favourite lyric on the album. ua-cam.com/video/7kg7rzSVoxE/v-deo.html
@@Whateverwhoification at 15:55ish He describes "For Crying Out Loud" his favourite song on Bat Out of Hell. ua-cam.com/video/J7fJFbsPD9s/v-deo.html
Such genius...... gone far too soon! Love you both, Jim and Meatloaf!
He was a delightful, funny, friendly, talented fellow.
the man is genius
Understatement
The best love song ever written from an amazing song writer. R.I.P Jim 🤘
Jim Steinman is an absolute legend.
Jim steinman is a underated composer
I'd really wouldn't say underrated
+Michal Motyčka Obscure?
His work certainly isn't underrated, people just don't know his name.
Yes everyone was listening to overrated 70s shit & totally ignored Jim Steinman they must be tone deaf!!! Lol
Not by me he's not🤔
Jim Steinman....one of the greatest songwriters born....sure going to miss you....
Talking of love songs, I think this is the ultimate.
How much more can a man open his heart?
Interesting to hear the early form of this epic classic
The old Levis Jim. Songwriter to be. One and only legend. Thanks sir for getting me through the tough times
Jim Steinman is in my view one of the best composers / songwriters. In his songs he changes speed, ritme, volume, melody (end it never bores), instrumental arrangements and his lyrics to think about are endless. He will rest in peace but his music will stay for ever!
I adore this arrangement! It seems more youthful and innocent.
Legends don’t die
Legendary songs live forever
RiP Jim. The tank full of time ran out but the beat goes on forever
Rest In Peace Jim and thank you
The best song EVER!! Even Meat Loaf affirmed that! Sung by Meat Loaf in his best times this song is unbeatable!!
Jim Steinman wrote a LOT of the songs recorded by various bands from the 70s-90s... "Making Love Out of Nothing At All" (Air Supply), "Total Eclipse of the Heart" (Bonnie Tyler), "No Matter What" (Boyzone), "Original Sin" (Taylor Dayne), "Holding Out for a Hero" (Bonnie Tyler), "It's All Coming Back to Me Now" (Celine Dion), "More" (Sisters of Mercy), and of course, the plethora of songs performed by Meat Loaf.
His total body of work is around 175-180 tracks (if we count alternate versions of songs and ignore Tanz Der Vampire)
...and Left In The Dark for Barbara Streisand. 💜
The coda for this song is probably my favourite Steinman moment
Jim is the sound track to my teenage years
circles in the night couldn’t have said it better myself
One of the greatest songs ever written.
RIP JS 💜
Guinness, pure brilliance!
Jim Steinman is the god of composers
Todd Rundgren really deserves a big thank you for what he did with this song
Did he? Or had Jim evolved it into rock and rock form by then?
Both
Wow, just wow. If Jim Steinman released this as a single I’m sure it would’ve been a hit. I really like his version!
Beautiful so gifted a true genius
Bless you and thank you for your beautiful
Music xx
what an interesting take. very pure
He should’ve released this version as a single!
it's the sound of his voice. but his timing and the instrumental in the song the words it's pretty damn good
This is not Jim, or me, or Rory, or Kim, or Andre, or Barry Manilow. They hired someone to be the voice of "Kid Champion"--and I can't remember who it was. Definitely none of the former list.
I listen to the song. I've been staring at the screen for 10 minutes trying to come up with a poetic goodbye and I can't find it all I can say is rock on Jimmy may you rule your best version of the afterlife
Beutiful voice. some much talente in one person. He is a gifted composer and musician
It's not Jim singing.
I think it’s Rory Dodd
@@chrisperry8192 Nope. This guy is excellent. But Rory is in another realm altogether. Rory would sing it EXACTLY as Jim would, except with a much richer voice!
@@chrisperry8192 No, Rory says it wasn't him. The singer remains unidentified.
I had no idea Jim could sing so well. Jim and Meat were magic together.
Have you heard Jim’s album called “Bad for Good”?
@Stefano Pavone I agree he wasn't as bad as the critics claimed, but this demo isn't Jim singing. I don't know who it is, but it isn't Jim Steinman.
Thank you for your beautiful music. RIP💔
Just heard this version and I love it.
never heard this one before. steinman at his best.
One of the best songs by one of the best composers of all time. May you keep rocking in heaven and thank you for your gargantuan talent you so graciously shared with us. The singer is Christopher Walken! For those wondering who the singer is (or maybe don't believe me), google Kid Champion by Jim Steinman. You're welcome.
The singer is Jim himself buddy.
Thanks for the google info, I did go check it out. Maybe you should go check it out again a read it properly pal.
An you’re welcome too.
The reprise sounds like Walken. This, I have no idea, but it's not Jim.
Now I know what an alternate universe John Denver rock star would sound like.
I like the more country sound this version has
Yes very John denver like👍
Your heart is my heart JIM Surfs up is One of the best of songs that could ever exist next to the bay city rollers la belle jenne
FYI, Rory Dodd sang Surf's Up on Bad for Good record, not Jim Steinman :-)
I didn’t know Jimmy wrote this awesome song but I should have it has his touch all over it
RIP Jimmy you were a genius
Miss you for all time 💗
I like that it has a country sound to it. And I like it’s so different from Meat Loaf’s version.
Whg didn't any country music stars record this? This is a great as a country song!
RIP Jim and Meat. Together again.
Happy Birthday, Jim! I love you so so much!
I don't care who sings it ..its a classic
Does anyone know who sings it?
Or is it completely unknown ?
@@NeovenatorRex I would guess its Kim Melford..who Jim preferred. Meat Loaf talks about the only time he fell out with Jim was over this song and 'someone' who sang it
@@geoffreynicholson1477 That's the best explaination I've heard so far ... it makes so much sense
RIP Jimmy.
Greatest writer
never forget you xxxx
Love love love, ty!
If American Idol existed in those days, young Jimmy would have killed them. Pretty voice! Meat took it that Operatic level. A great song works in EVERY genre. Anyone want to collaborate on a Reggae version? It WOULD work!
I love Jim
Just enjoy it no need to analyze a pure classic. No matter who the artist is.
Well said.
Might be Andre de Shields singing lead. He sang this song before Meat ever did. You can unmistakingly hear Jim singing backup on the "But most of all"'s at the end.
No I heard Andre sing this many many times. This guy is very good--but Andre was cosmic. Just a shame he didn't record it. Stronger than even Meat Loaf, in my opinion.
@@spacepunk2001 Honored to get a response from the mighty Barry Keating. Thanks for the inside scoop, Barry, and may your pal RIP.
@@spacepunk2001 Andre is still alive and has amazing energy. Someone needs to see if he has a recording or if he would go in and record it now.
Can hear some early “the future ain’t what it used to be” in the intro
I was thinking 'Seize the night'...but let's face it, Jim's songs always had musical and lyrical callbacks (and premonitions) to his other songs. \m/
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@1976REDRYDER Many of Steinman's songs would make great country songs.
THIS IS A NICE VERSION, BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE FEEL THE SAME THAT MEAT LOAF DOES, HE REALLY MAKES ME FEEL "IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE..."
With meats vision for acting out the song that came out of a brain like Jim's. There is no match in the music world
its good to hear how jim would have sung it, but in all respect i have heard 2 songs that jims produced and sung that meatloaf has sung as well, unfortunately for this song i think meat puts a fair bit more of grunt and power into the song that makes you wanna stand up, cry, shout and sing with him. My score 1 - 1
what a legend!
rgis very good b ut the genius of todd the bat is simply amazing unbeatble greatest love song ever
This is one of the BEST MEATLOAF tunes ever!
LOVE IT!!
If you do no Jim Steinmans not so famous work (his "Bad for Good" album as well as his "Original Sin" by Pandora's Box), you will know, how he loved recycling his unknown material and turn it into hits for someone else. At the beginning of this song you have the "...Toll a bell for the broken hearted..." part on Pandoras Box's "The Future ain't what it used to be", which Meatloaf covered on Bat III. The chord progrssion at the beginning of "More then you deserve" was also reused as "The Future ain't what it used to be's" chorus.
Also "Stark Raving Love's" intro was copied onto Bonnie Tyler's "I Need a Hero", and this is all just the tip of the iceberg...
That is CORRECT...SIR!!!! :-)
Its his musical background yeah. He loves the continuing refrain stuff
Nothing wrong with recycling lyrics etc. Most artist use stuff they have written before, many years later. Steinman is a legend and it'll only be when he's gone that most people will then admire the legacy of music he's left behind. Such an underrated songwriter
This is the beauty of Steinman music. The more time you invest into it the more reoccurring motifs and features you'll notice. It makes his work very stylistically memorable.
Jim’s music cannot be viewed episodically. It’s all one body of work with checkpoints. It’s purposely self-referencing... it’s also not insulting. In other words, one doesn’t need to know all of the material to enjoy it... but if you do know it all, look out!
If his only talent was appropriating tired cliches in pursuit of auditory art... then that ALONE, was enough!
Amen to that
Pure country
This guy deserves a statue. And another dessert :).
Brilliant
Shame this track is not available to buy
Wow
I love it
Didn't want to go through all the comments....it's Kim Milford? Not sure if someone said so yet. He worked with Meatloaf in the Rocky Horror Show alongside Tim Curry. He tourned and recorded with the Jeff Beck Group.
Jimbo was a great song writer for Ceolin Dion, And the I need a Hero singer
There are a few out there, Kansas, Jeff Lynn and ELO
@slotwinski1414 That is an interesting video. I had seen the clip of just Steinman's part. Hearing the other comments were good. I posted my own cover of "Two Out Of Three Ain't Bad." Personally, I love hearing these demos without a lot of production. They distill the songs down to their essence. If a song sounds good stripped down like this, then it's the song that sounds good, not the production that salvages a not-so-good song.
What was with his country slant? Never heard these demos before. Interesting
Jim Steinman wrote the song, as he did most of Meat Loaf's songs
in spite of it all he managed one solitary top #40 hit #32 of 1981 rock and dreams come through from bad fore good.
This is just as good as the Meat Loaf recording! :D
(Except for the "for X and Y I Z you..." part. I like Meat Loaf better there.)
Listen to the album Bad for Good... Jim recorded this album himself after Meatloaf backed out when he lost hs voice and could not sing. I think you'll come to the conclusion that the singer on this demo is indeed Jim Steinman.
On "Bad for Good" Steinman sang half or so of the songs and Rory Dodd sang the rest and provided backup vocals for all. I'm pretty familiar with both voices and this doesn't sound like either. Dodd is more raspy and stronger than this singer, I don't think this is Rory Dodd singing. And Steiman isn't nearly as precise and doesn't have even close to the range of whoever this singer is.
+MrZedblade
I was just gonna write the exact same answer. You are 100% correct.
However, let me add that Steinman's voice to us Steinmaniacs is clearly identifiable at the end of the song where several singers repeast "but most of all". My guess, it was a live recording and all singing musicians (Steinman on piano) lent their voices for this little background vocal lick.
OMG plzzzz jim dont mess my fav. up .......omg you have noooo
This is a raw demo done 3 years before the actual song we all know..
Meat took this little country diddy and made it Elvis' last song, a true epic
so maybe BAT OUT OF NASHVILLE could have worked? I'm used to this song being orchestral but this is nice
i like this a lot kinda soulds like billy joel in his early piano man years really cool
Jim made this an American country song. Meat made is a romantic ballad. Well, I prefer the latter, although the former is still pretty cool.