A Comedy Musician Reacts | NEATH! A Fallen London Musical by The Stupendium [REACTION]
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- Insane Ian is a comedy musician and comedy music fan. This week he's reacting to "NEATH! A Fallen London Musical" by @TheStupendium! Like, share, comment, and subscribe!
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14:49 The market turns to black has another meaning too: now that they're underground, his 'honest' market has become a 'black market' instead.
Ha, yes...Stupendium actually just pointed that out to me as well, lol. Whoops! I missed the obvious! 😅
Especially since Robert Rackett makes a living on the black market himself, selling stolen or illicit goods on Shaftsbury Avenue.
@@InsaneianI noticed too 😮😂
Stupendium has always had a very impressive track record of adding as many different meanings to a singular verse as possible. It's probably my favourite part about their music.
One of my favorite absolutely _tiny_ details in this song is one of Cassie's last lines, "You've got Pages full of questions but I've left my lot behind." I like it so much because it's a very clever double, both having pages full of questions (since you're in-universe taking a census of the town's residents), but also Pages full of questions, since the ones who are in charge of the Ministry are the Masters (the big cloaked dudes), one of whom you meet in the game is Mr. Pages, with that capital P. Brilliant.
NICE.
I never would have caught that. It's so subtle yet so perfect.
There are so many tiny details everywhere. My favorite detail is in the fourth section with Mr Pages where eyes appear behind him. The eyes blink from bottom up to show they're bats hanging upside down. I'd put money on blinking being added just to show orientation.
One of my favorites is Brimstone’s use of the word “buzz.” (Note that there is a _reason_ for that bee ornament pinned to his lapel.)
Also "I've left my lot [of pages] behind": Both pages that could be written from her past as Clyde, that Cassie won't talk about and you won't be able to write ; and the papers Clyde went through as an administrative clerk, that she is glad never to see again.
And we know Pages is the one singing in the Masters section, because he’s the only Master that speaks in weird made-up words like that.
The tall creepy guys in cloaks are actually alien bat-people that work for a giant crab monster that wants to fuck the sun
i am not making this up, that is the actual lore of this game
so at 46:47 the eyes that appear in the background are blinking from bottom up, to show that they’re hanging from the ceiling upside down like bats
i love how much detail this song has
You are the FIRST person I have seen to catch the upside-down blinking! :D
What did I just read? 😮
The actual sun or the clockwork one ?
@@lolman6759 The real sun. And technically, the Crab Monster wants to break the news that the being the Sun truly loves rejected them lightly, unless the Sun were to die in sadness.
thanks for the giggle, i was not prepared for that lore dump lmao
I don't know if anyone else has pointed this out, but my personal favorite tidbit in this song is with the bit of "hunger does a number down in london, watch you'll get a darker taste instead." it's an incredibly subtle reference to a particular little game mechanic known as being Unaccountably Peckish. basically, it's a very coy reference to cannibalism! idk how many people caught that one tbh, but it made me chuckle when i first heard it
Nice catch!
@@TheStupendium Good ol' Peckish reference! I just assumed it was something about Neathy Delights. But yeah this tracks. I wonder if they actually played FL for some of this or is this just a lot of research done?
Not necessarily cannibalism, but still (eg. When you find a beast in the unterzee and make rubbery lumps out of it you get 2 UP, and one of the fruits on a card in the mirror marches gives you 1 UP)
A couple lines I think you missed: in Honest Bob's section, "all the markets turn to black" also refers to black markets, selling contraband. And in Cassie's section, "at its best degentrified" can refer to gentrification, but I think it also meant de-gent-rified, as in no longer a gent, as in a man
Ah, the first one was addressed in the pinned comment, but the second is a much better explanation for de-gentrified than I did. Thanks!
Talking about making the tea leaf richer is also a Cockney rhyming slang joke. Tea leaf is rhyming slang for thief.
22:49 Don't worry, also happened to me, for some reason I just went with the vibe and for _days_ I thought this verse was about a lady in unhappy marriage in London that found a solitary yet free life in the Neath. Gave me such queer joy when I realized my mistake.
Me also thought that, I thought it was "screw my old husband can go suck a stick, it's my chance to shine"
If you go to Mr. Pages part you can see portmanteau’s for each of our main characters.
Harry- Posthumurous
Robert- Maudliniquitous
Byron- Pridesolated
Cassie- Promiscivious
And those are actually really descriptive words regarding them, not to mention forshadowing Harry's condition. Just a cherry on top of this masterwork.
It’s probably one of my favorite little details in the entire video and I have seen almost no one mention it in these reaction videos. Great to see people pick up on it.
Cassie’s in the game now! There’s now a portrait for a barmaid in Fallen London that is very clearly Cassie, and it’s such a treat to see.
Wow!
I adore this piece so much! As someone who has been playing Fallen London for ~8 years now this was an amazing treat. Stupes managed to fit so many little nods to the games in the song but still made it accessible to people who never heard of it.
My favorite line is probably "The other people *at* my station may not share my fascination" from Byron. In universe Hell is a real place you can go to via train (with a lot of work).
Also, the last character "Mr. Pages" is the only character from the FL universe! Everyone else is an OC. The ingame one is even more incomprehensible.
Also excellent work spotting the common theme of love! It is the driving force of pretty much all conflicts in the Fallen London universe, including the city's fall.
Stupes really knocked it out of the park with this one.
Holy crow, Stupes invented these amazing people?? Not that I'm surprised, with their uber-talented and incredible mind, but wow!
Wait, someone else said Bob was a char, too
@@lordsergal8783Some of Bob’s stuff is inspired by canonical characters (I think there’s at least a few unnamed map sellers in the game) but all in all, a Stupendium original!
From my hazy understanding of the Fallen London universe, one of the peculiar aspects of the Neath is that death works very differently than on the surface, in that death by violence is seldom permanent, and death by natural causes is gradual rather than sudden, and lifespans are much longer. A person who dies retains their consciousness and continues as normal, but their body slowly decays until they become a tomb-colonist, where they travel away from London to live in cites of the dead.
It's more of a resurrection sort of thing. When you die of unnatural causes (murder, choking, etc.), you eventually just kind of...wake up a few days later with your injuries healed. Though the body does decay in the interim and scars still form, meaning that repeated returns from the Boatman tends to result in a person becoming too unpleasantly marred to remain in polite society. Thus, the creation of the tomb colonies. Lifespans are still about the same as well, but the Neath is also host to a lot of life-extending materials that can often be hard to avoid interacting with.
I've started playing the Fallen London series (Sunless Seas/Skies) to get a hold of the universe before deciding if or not I would try Mask of the Rose.
Needless to say, when after barely half an hour of playing Sunless Seas I discovered Visage and, after organically learning and honouring the local traditions I left with a healthy chunk of lore and a nifty jewel... My lore hunter heart melted and I muttered: "Yes. This is right. That scratches the itch."
And Oh Boy did I learn more messed up things in the few hours I played since!
So in Fallen London, there's a soul trade as a major theme. Souls are traded in very distinctive bottles. And yes, those are soul bottles. Anyone who played the game instantly recognized them.
For more fun: The symbols during Byron's verse? They have meanings.
His lapel pin is 'The Improbable Collusion of Two Unrelated Perils'.
Irritatingly, most of the others I either can't quite make out or don't appear to Correspond to as-of-yet known symbols (a bit saddened that 'The Sensation of Having Carried Out a Painstaking Task for No Particular Reason' wasn't one I could make out), but Byron's not kidding about speaking them possibly setting the place aflame - that particular language is known for its high flammability.
The bit about taking a Name doubly so - if you know, you know.
@@KyrilXIV I doubt he's a Seeker. He's, you know... entirely to together for that. Not even devils will touch that.
@@damsonrheaespecially ones with better things to do than destroy themselves
@@damsonrhea the devils are HORRIFIED by what you have to do during seeking.
@@gamesandglory1648 if you somehow sell your soul as a Seeker, you better not touch the Forgotten Quarter
Small detail; in Mr. Pages' verse there's a panning shot of his desk with the various characters blotted onto pages with one of his signature portmanteaus written to describe each of them. Harry Teller's is "Posthumorous", as in "humorous" and "posthumous", foreshadowing the reveal at the end that he was actually dead!
I wasn't actually sure if the waitress was Stupendium or not. That costume is immaculate.
The thing that threw me was, I never thought Stupes would shave off the ‘stache! They say it’s already grown back, though. (Which has me feeling a wee bit conflicted because I adore The Stupendium’s signature facial hair but I’m also in love with Cassie now.)
@@SenoraCardgagethe stache is too powerful, even for the power of women
It took me a few scenes (both the voice and the setup were wonderful), but the wrists and nails clocked me in (I swear I'm not a serial killer)
(Also, It took me a few listens to realize it was in-universe drag/trans. I just thought Stupes was taking the chance to flex a femme costume)
@@NWolfsson I listened multiple times to puzzle out the story beneath the song, and too realized that Cassie was Clyde! It was and still is amazing after many more listens of this masterpiece. Even though I knew nothing of Neath/Mask of the Rose before this video's existence, I'm in love with all these lyrical layers.
It's a testament to stupes acting as much as it a testament to his costume department
Byron Brimstone may "set the place aflame" with his name because his name may naturally be one of the Correspondence, the language of the stars that does typically set things on fire. A few of the correspondence sigils are tied against the bottles that appears in his normal human verses! Which have a good chance to be bottled human souls. A thing that the devils (often represented as bee-like in FL -- certainly causing a buzz, which is just also clever wordplay) would have plenty of.
The beast there is one Mr Pages, one of the Masters that exist within Fallen London. Yes, it always speaks like that. Yes, it hurts the brains of many.
Well, devils speak the dialect/variant of Correspondence, a language of burning dance, known as the Rose Giveth or sometimes the Rose Taketh.
I didn't play FL all that much, but I remember something about supernatural honey being a popular drug, is it related to devils?
@@kacperdrabikowski5074 Prisoner's Honey. And yes, the Devils created it so humans would go to Parabola
Could definitely be souls, but with the color I wonder if it isn't the nastier version of Prisoner's Honey, Gaoler's Honey/Red Honey.
@@Chetverikov Nah, that stuff is yellow/red/black. This is most definitely souls.
Honestly surprised you didn't notice that in the last chorus Honest Bob is at his house getting drunk on his own while everyone else is partying at The Singing Mandrake. It's a fantastic detail and even comments on classism a bit.
Now to be fair, he lives above the singing mandrake; upper floor sure but still same building. Which is also why I liked the music getting muffled during that line, like it was playing a few floors down
I thought it was more that he struck out earlier during his part and went upstairs to drown his sorrows
Waitwaitwait, is that a GD player that also listens to Stupes?
Never thought I'd see the day
@@forcicri93 yep :3
Stupendium absolutely nailed Cassi's performance. Like, damn. Definitely the best performance in the video (and possibly their whole discography), though I have to say my favorite verse is probably the Master's at the end, followed by Brimstone's
Not sure why, but Cassie reminds me of the meat pie vendor from Sweeny Todd. Maybe the hair?
Every time stupes set a bar on the production quality and/or lyrical mastery, I always sit there and go, "They finally did it, this is the peak of their career." Only for them to top it again in their next song.
It's stupid how much I just love this song. Especially Cassie's bars.
When talking about ill-defined companions beneath him I believe Brimstone obviously meant other demons deeper in Hell so that's why he's hanging around yet more entertaining humans
I wasn't a fan of this song at first but boy did it grow on me. It's such a masterpiece and I'm glad to see your reaction to it! I would have missed so many jokes without it.
Your lighting also worked out so don't sweat it!
It's like I was in Fallen London myself! 😅
I already loved the song at first (I'm a sucker for musicals, plus Stupendium themselves I just got weak in the knees), and when I finally got hit by Cassie's verse (like, five listens, in. For some reason I got the lyrics for both Bob and Byron, but for Cassie I just vibed) my little heart swelled and I went "Yes. That. It's perfect."
@@Insaneian Though, regarding the lighting, you DO look like the Lorax. XD
in case you were wondering which character is from fallen london and it's spin-offs, that would be the weird, cloaked creature with the peculiar and verbose wordage.
his name is mr. pages. he deals in books, written language and secrets. there's a few others like him, but he's the only one who talks like that. he likes words.
To be precise, he likes prescrumptious worditionary, rather than plain words.
Damn. I was hoping Mr. Byron Brimstone was in the game. Ah, but alas, Mr. Pages will have to do.
@@subjectdelta3908 byron brimstone specifically is not in fallen london, meaning there is no character by that name.
his people are there, and they tend to be quite debonair.
There's a theory that I like that is Mr. Pages is bad at english and is trying to systematically create words
28:28 I just realized. "I'll take the packages, lay off the strings. Cause when they aren't attached it's my favourite thing."
Underwear.
It can... Also be underwear. Keeping your *cough* package *cough* together. Attached.
Man, Stupendium is the very personification of the English language. I swear every sentence they lay has at least three meanings!
My attempts to unscramble the portmanteaus:
Puzzulary - Puzzling/ Extraordinary
Fascitate - Fascinate/ Captivate
Insignifoportant - Insignificant/Unimportant
Cachophocordant- Cacophony/Discordant
Cherisffectionate- Cherish/ Affection/ Date (Come to think about it, all three characters kinda fit into those categories)
Serendestiny- Serendipity/Destiny
Apocaclysm- Apocalypse/Cataclysm
Clockanism- Clockwork/Mechanism
Requessary- Required/Necessary
Fathometry- Fathoming/ ? (Possibly Geometry as "Outside of their geometry, or what they can rationalize)
Gladoration- Gladness/Adoration
Enmachinations- Engineering/Machinations
Enigmystery- Enigma/Mystery
Foretent- Foretold/Portent
Phenomonition- Phenomenon/ Premonition
Either way, Stupendium had altogether too much fun making it all up. :P
Great reaction as always. Also one tiny detail - at 46:30 line "Each tale impaled by the quill tip to the pages" can count as a double, because, again, the name of character singing is Mr. Pages, and you can't tell if it's written with capital P in the subtitles.
You are by far my favorite reaction channel on this platform and this video is a perfect example of why. I love seeing how much you pause and show that you UNDERSTAND the lines, and actually share that understanding with people who may have overlooked something, and take the time to explain WHY something is absolutely incredible, rather than just confirming that it IS. I live for these extra-long reactions, because I know that they really do capture the attention to detail a well-crafted song can pose.
(Note that I was really surprised you didn't catch: I'd Do Anything is an Oliver! song specifically about love, and the voices in the background for the line it's mentioned actually sing the melody. There were so many just tiny things that connected to other tiny things and I had to keep getting up and walking around during my first listen, especially as someone who played the original Fallen London... and needs to start all over because it's been years and I forgot almost literally everything about where I was in the game. Annoying, since it's a browser game with an energy system.)
Thank you so much, I really appreciate that! And yes, I missed the "I'd Do Anything" right after the line I *thought* was from Oliver, and Stupes themselves pointed that out to me. Whoops! 😅
"It's the new tounge - I just had I replaced, I lost it in the war.. " just dropping that and moving on x'D
“Who can say on any day who gets the reins, enjoy the ride” can also apply to sexuality, riding being a sexual innuendo
And “it pays to be quite flexible that truly who am I [pause]” is it’s own meaning, but takes on a new one when the next line is added. That’s so cool I rarely see that done
"ain't half" is british slang meaning that it very much has.
with the signs gone for mysterious reasons the only way to navigate fallen london is with a map, which have also been banned
so the value of maps have gone up
As a genderfluid transfemme named Cassie, seeing stupes play the character with tons of lyrics about transness was really really cool
Genders are getting so complicated that my mush brain can’t keep up with all of them anymore
Send help
@@Inventor_gaming basically just find out what you enjoy and what feels genuine to you and do that, don’t let yourself be restricted by ideas of what a man or woman “should do”. It’s mostly about freedom to be your genuine self. Labels are the least important part of it really
@@Sleeper_6875 thank you for explaining
I really needed that info 3 of my friends are gender fluid and I was too scared to ask them an it
@@Inventor_gaming they’ll hopefully be cool with you asking them if you need any more info
Are you British perhaps?
I'm always a huge fan of "It's a crapshoot whatever you're gonna get but I think it's a good time either way". Definitely your most iconic line, or at least my favourite from you
Ha, thanks! I appreciate that!
"Their apocaclysm spawns a clockanism" could refer to clockwork, in which case the entity singing is referring to how the apocalypse/cataclysm (London falling) gave the entity the opportunity to pull the strings on the humans like clockwork. (clockwork + mechanism = clockanism; the apocaclysm gave them a mechanism to create clockwork)
Oh, and also at 46:57 you made a GREAT pun! "A Masterful... section of the song" as it was just sung by, yes, a handful of Masters (the same ones who decreed the increase of biscuit rations).
I was waiting... with BAITED BREATH for Ian to react to the latest monstrosity (with all the positivity and love that word can hold) Stupendium bestowed upon us. NEATH! is truly a new level for them!
As a non-native speaker and someone who really likes Stupes songs but doesn't get some of the puns/references (and in other comedy songs too), I really appreciate your over-explaining haha))
The ONLY reactor that caught the Sound of Music reference. This song was made for the theater kids.
I tend to read this 29:08 ”Either way you’ll be beneath” as another innuendo but maybe I’m over reading it. Another fun, visual effect is at Brimstone’s verse where a bottle gets materialized in the background as soon as the “bottled up feelings” get mentioned.
I must say, how special it feels to have a character like Cassie portrayed in a mainstream media without them seeming like a circus freak. From a personal experience I can say that coming out as anything else than cis has been a heck of a lot more terrifying than coming out as “simply” pan. I tip my nonexistent hat to Stupes for this.
I thoroughly enjoyed your commentary. It’s my second time watching this, as I tend to watch your reactions multiple times. I would definitely not have caught everything without it.
YESS the realisation that Cassie was Clyde is such a good one, extremely well written verse, I had the same realisation on re-listen
when i heard the line from cassie "when they arent attached its my favourite thing", the first thing that came up in my mind was a certain "toy" that is supposed to resemble that "package". just something i thought id point out.
oh, I've been so excited for your reaction to this song since it came out! kept thinking "oh, ian is gonna have a field day with this" while relistening to it throughout the last week - always love hearing your thoughts and analysis about stupes' songs! especially explaining and appreciating all the word play! :]
(and I think you're the only person who reacted to this this that picked up on the trans sub(?)text at the beginning of cassie's verse!)
Tbh, the character reads more like someone with plurality for me.
Having 2 identities inside that can switch from the front to back seat (which is how it is often explained to me. Two identities in one body as a 2 people in one car), that's how I read the lines.
With "Clyde can take the back seat, Cassie's turn to ride" , "the other person is residing deep inside"
"Who gets to say on any day who will rein" and wear trousers or not. (Clyde generally being a male name, so wearing trousers and Cassie is generally considered female, so dress) and why it's better to de-gentrify, it might be a punt de-gent-rifiy or d-gender-fry. So Cassie/Clyde can be whoever they wants to be as it doesn't matter to others anymore who they is.
@@headphoneheadache7667 also a great way to interpret that part!
I personally figured that because stupes is genderfluid themselves, and because cassie is the first femme presenting character they've played on their channel, there's a decent chance that part was meant to read as her being trans/genderfluid - but I can definitely see the plural system interpretation as well!
I personally love this song so much, especially the layout. The first verse, Bob's, explains more of the world and what happened to get them down in the Neath. Cassie's, by contrast, is all about the people of the Neath. It shows, using her as an example, that people are changing down here, for better or worse. It explains the character growth of the people as they get used to their new life, which is why I find Cassie's verse so appealing. Byron's verse is then used to talk about how weird the situation is, and to bring our attention to the more Lovecraftian details about the world. Every mini song has it's purpose, even the short bit when the Masters show up is important. It gives us a peak behind the curtain as to who's in charge of all this, and it shows that they are strangely fascinated with the new arrivals to their cavern. All in all, everything is there for a reason, and it tells about the situation their in so well that despite never hearing about Fallen London prior to this game, I knew all the basics when I began to look into the game on my own. Phenomenal.
Edit: Also I love when Cassie offers you a drink in the middle of Byron's verse. It's such a small detail, but it indicates that you are visibily uncomfortable with this situation and Cassie is trying to offer you an out. Again, everything is there for a purpose!
This one's a grower. It took a way to "attune" myself to it, but it's really good and really shows how much Stupes loves musicals.
One of my favorite mostly hidden detail in the song comes from Stupes when introducing the third character. Byron Brimstone. This is both just a cool name but it is literally Fire an' Brimstone which is a great hint as their faction as a... Demonic entity.
I love your videos thanks for making them :)
English is not my first language so your videos helps me greatly understanding jokes/rhyme schemes/lyrics I might have not understood by my own (I discovered your channel thx to ninja sex party "I own a car" and I don't regret clicking on that video at all (you're the only reaction channel I watch here on this side of the interwebs))
Thank you, I appreciate that!
In a weird way this video felt like an english class where we're analyzing the song for learning purposes except the class isn't boring at all and quite enjoyable infact
Oh man, it wasn't until I was stuck in traffic that it clicked! "musicam audi avis cosmicae" at the start on the Stupendium logo translates roughly to "listen to the music of the cosmic birds".
I was really sure what that meant at first but I'm like 99% sure now that he's talking about Cosmo! The Stupendibirb!
Oh brilliant. And natch, I thought it was "comicae" which made me think comedy not "cosmicae". Nice work!
45:18 by clock mechanism it's a reference to sunless sea where you can find an unfathomable clockwork sun that makes your crew go insane, there is also one cooler in sunless skies
Wouldn't it be lovely is My Fair Lady btw. Makes sense for the setting.
Great reaction as always. One bit of slang that seems to have missed a lot of folks doing reactions: "ain't 'alf collectin' value" actually means they're becoming MUCH more valuable. Similar to "not doing something by halves".
Indeed. The idea being, with the line next to it about missing street signs, maps are the only way to know where you are now.
Also, street maps of old London are forbidden.
"Those are unnecessary wordy words."Stupes doing what Stupes does best lets be honest. 😆
I had to do a double take when I saw Stupes playing a feminine character for the first time and hopefully won't be the last.
And yeah I can get you misunderstanding something in it on first listening as it took me several repeats before I fully got it all because there's just so much to take in both visually and audibly at once. Not that it's a bad thing, like with most of Stupes' songs, such writing is always good as it means I end up spotting something I didn't the first several times I listened to it. 😆
The things in the robes were the Masters of the Echo Bazaar, the entities that made a deal with Queen Victoria that led to London becoming Fallen London in exchange for saving Albert from death. The one with the idiosyntaxic way of speaking is Mr. Pages, and don't feel bad about their verse being odd. Fallen London's setting is an onion of world-building and occult secrets, and that verse doesn't make much sense unless you're already familiar with ThE LoRe. Without spoiling too much for the folks who want to play the games and figure out the mysteries themselves (folks who are interested in spoilers can google the lore wiki), I'll just say that the Masters Of The Bazaar and the Bazaar itself have their own agendas that are intimately connected with matters of Love, and leave it at that.
I have been waiting for this since the song came out, i already know imma love this reaction and i haven't even got to the actual song yet 💖 I also knew exactly nothing about fallen london beforehand and stupes once again made me play a game that i'd never heard of purely on the incredible vibes of their music 🤣🤩
also entirely unrelated to the song or the reaction but i find myself absolutely loving that every character in the game is very confused about my pronouns when addressing me because i too am confused about my pronouns regularly 🤣🤣🏳⚧ happy pride everybody!
My favourite line is "when you live your life in London, you're used to skies of gray" it's so damn funny for some reason
For Mr. Pages (spoopy little hooded boy towards the end), in the game would make up words by merging them which is what they did in the song.
Also with Byron brimestones line (his name is basically a wordplay on fire and brimstone) "Death is but a wheel but within a wheel spins ever round" references that death in the underneath (like harry teller at the end) is rarely pemenant unless your dismembered or (any other obviously 100% lethal way to die), else all wounds will heal in time. If somebody who died in the underneath returns to the surface they will basically die when they see the sun.
Maps are actually an expensive (early) counterband you can trade in - pretty sure the 'aren't half collecting value' is saying they're collecting a lot of value.
The fact you mentioned the fencing as he talked about fencing his heart and the meaning behind it is so funny, if we continue with the Fagin comparison as that's his role in Oliver is not only a mentoring pickpocket but Bill Syke's fence as well.
Double meaning there too 'i'll never fence my heart' as in 'I'll never close it off', because he's desperately seeking love!
@@TheStupendium I was going to say that as well but I fell asleep.
@@TheStupendium Is Harry Teller supposed to be a pun?
As a British history buff, I love the Victorian era theme of this video (yes, it's Victorian not Elizabethan)
I realized at the end I said the wrong word, heh.
@@Insaneian lol
Ever since Stups video came out I’ve been waiting for this reaction. Never disappointed.
Whatever the guy at the end actually might be, I always got 1000 rats in a coat vibes from it.
My fav char was Brimstone, and yes, iirc, one of the major currencies that you use when talking to devils is Bottled Souls which are red. Also, talking about acting, I LOVED how Brimstone, during the "tell me friend" (tell me fiend) would give just the slightest of smirks, like he's trying to hold back a smile, when he talks about "the demons might prevail".
Byron's bug pin and the "spot of buzz" line reminds me that Devils of Fallen London are:
Bees in a human mechs, can't remember if it's meat or paper.
she turned me into a newt... i got better bravo ian you survived
That intro sounded like when Kronk figured out who pacha was in Emperors new groove. I'm all for it. 😂
43:30 Mr. Pages (and as far as I've seen the Masters in general) speak quasi-exclusively in portmanteaux of similar-ish concepts.
(example: Serendestiny= Serendipity, the concept of having something happen by accident, in an unplanned manner ; and Destiny, the concept that specific things _will_ happen, no matter what. Or Fathometry= Fathoming being the measure of depths, both underwater or in concepts; and metry the measure in general, unless I'm missing something)
(English is my second language so I _may_ be imprecise on all that, but linguistics is SO interesting to me and that kind of forged vocabulary makes me absolutely drool.)
Thank you for helping me out with all the complicated english verbiage, Ian!
As someone that isn't english, sometimes understanding lyrics is hard asf.
This song is a fucking masterpiece (like usual, it's Stupes ofc) and by far my favorite of all time, so thank you for the explanation man
23:18 your the firsts reactor I’ve ever seen to actually point that out/figure that out
"I been dead a week but I feel better now" is classically british. "Oh I'm dead. Guess it can't be worse."
I actually ran the Latin from the emblem through Google Translate- the last word is actually "cosmicae" and the whole thing means "listen to the music of the cosmic birds". I assume it's referencing Cosmo, the Stupendibirb.
Also: "ain't half" means they *are* collecting value, at a significant rate, and indeed in the games maps tend to be valuable contraband.
Cassie has what sounds like a really miserable marriage in her Surface past, so it makes a lot of sense that she's soured on the idea.
The reason everyone's telling you about their opinions on love is because you've asked- the census *specifically* has you asking people if they're "enamourificated or impassionated". (Mr Pages wrote the questions.)
Yes, I think that's it, someone else here in the comments made the same connection!
I just saw comedy where I wanted to, lol.
I havent really listened to any of your songs but boy do i love your reactions, especially the pauses with your incredible input. Love the content
long comment for the long video :) I was expecting a long reaction cause this is a big song and wow you did not disappoint. Coincidently I hadn't heard of fallen london til the day stupes video released cause seeking mr eaten's name came up in a top ten video I happened to watch that day. The more I listen to this song the more I appreciate all the lines "pulls a damned sight more than pints" is a cracker. Cassie's section is a standout lots of amazing lines. "either way you'll be beneath" yes what you said but also you might just be lucky enough to be beneath cassie as well ;) Oh oh the riddle of the sphinx line just clicked for me :D I love the change to the most classy sounding piano for our resident gentledevil I mean man. Love the fiery sigils that appear during the line about telling you his name would set the place aflame making it obvious that it would in fact be more than metaphorical if he told you his real name and the little bit where he suddenly teleports to the bar is amazing. my skinsuit is ichy can relate ian it's quite hot over here and cause it's the uk it's also as humid as a defrosting hell my body itches everywhere :) souls are a commodity in the fallen london game and they just so happen to be stored in bottles. also mister byron brimstone made me google a few words that where not in my lexicon. I love the mr pages section but I also refuse to try and understand it too wordy brain small too hot
Y'know I've spent ages thinking Cassie was Clyde's wife, it never clicked to me that that was NOT what the lyrics meant. I now enjoy this song even more because now I can see how well-written Cassie's lines are
That was my initial interpretation too, but as it progressed, I realized the deeper meaning...such a great section!
"i can´t keep pausing and talking about ..." me: yes you can!
AND I DO! 😅
oh my god i love how you Visibly Recoil when Pages starts... pages'ism-ing
45:28 the Clockanism is the fulse sun that the Fallen Londoner's create and over time it gains sentience and goes insane, corrupting anyone who spends to much time near it to turn into lunatics raving about "The Sun, The Sun, The Sun" the clockwork sun makes an apperance in both Failbetter games: Sunless Sea and Sunless Skies, also should clarify at 49:15 when Harry Teller says that he's been dead for a week, meaning that yes you can die in the Neath but the death does not stick and you can be back on your feat within a day, week or month, depending on what caused your death :)
46:57 Not sure if this is true, since I haven't played the games, but "Court then torment" and "Love's bent definition" could mean that the murderer tries to win the love/romance their victim in order to get them into a situation in which they can murder them. (to court someone is an old timey way of saying picking up someone)
Maybe said murderer is being controlled/motivated to kill by this external entity in the song, or maybe the external entity takes on a human form and is the murderer themselves. Now I want to play the game XD
the "external entity" is a Master of the Bazaar, Mr Pages, THEY don't really have a connection with murder, but there is AN entity in fallen london that posses people to kill (Jack of Smiles), and a different Master that has murder conspiracies (whole plot of an ambition)
Whenever I watch Stupendium reactions, you're the only one who consistently gets most all the double entendres and meanings, references and hints. It's refreshing when so many others miss the cleverness and it frustrates me, them not seeing all Stupe's witticisms, but you do! Gold star! XD
Having said that, did you notice the detail that during Byron Brimstone's bit, more and more glowing bottled souls are showing up in the background as it goes on?
Thank you! I'm a fan of cleverness, so I always appreciate finding it, and Stupes always delivers!
Ian, the great explainer. Always great to watch your video's for more information on a video. But wow! This is a long video, haha
YES! The monty python at the end... cherry on top.
Another thing worth noting on the "steep just makes the tealeaf richer" wordplay-"tea leaf" is cockney rhyming slang for "thief", which is perfect both for this character in particular and for the London setting at large.
ETA: "Wouldn't it be lovely" is My Fair Lady, not Oliver
English is my 2nd language, you helped me with a lot of the nuances. Like your content, mainly the reactions. :D
Everyone seems to be missing the *in song* stuff with Byron's bottle's. He outright *states* human souls are "so thick and treacly I could easily have it corked" *while holding* a bottle. And then later when he's talking about 'keeping things bottled up' if you watch the bar counter behind him you can actually *see* a bottle just appear from the ether! So many cool hints even if you know nothing of the games!
Finally! Ever since Stupes released the video I had been waiting for your reaction to it, Ian!
My god do I hate musicals, but if Stupes ever had an actual live musical I would pay any price to see it because this shit is outstanding.
When Brimstone Was Asking If We Hear Or See Things His Shadow Means Something Else
You have no idea how much I was looking forward to this reaction!
Its kind of funny that ian's camera would overheat in the devil part of the video 34:04
Great analysis as always
YEA! i was waitin' for this!
i thought id caught pretty much all the wordplay but i certainly learned from this video!!
when you made the master of the house comparison to cassies part it made so much sense- completely agree
amazing reactionz love your vibes
Loving this reaction so far
Been waiting for you to react to this and explained to me on what's going on because stupes vocabulary and lyrical genius are breaking my poor slow mind.
I've been a fan of Stupes for a while now. I really enjoy your reactions! I don't keep up with social media and updates other then youtube for the most part, so I had no idea about Stupes identifying as they/them. So I'm glad you pointed out Stupes being gender fluid, i accidentally called them a he and felt so horrible about it. I'm so happy that they have found themselves! I love Stupes, they are a fantastic artist and extremely talented! You are too! Loved the reaction, more people need to give REAL reactions to Stupes, Dan Bull and others like them!! I hope you're doing well!
Great reaction, thoroughly enjoyed it!
I cant believe that Stupendium shaved mustache for Cassie performance, great reaction anyway, you explained a lot of things and puns that ive missed (and i have been listening this song for hours)
I was not expecting Insane Ian to go over this one. I did expect that the video would be nearly an hour long if he did go over it.
I love, "Packages meaning..." *looks down* XD
On a different note, honestly I was getting a lot of Sweeny Todd myself, especially at the bit where they all sing together!
I'm glad *someone* caught that 😅
This is completely irrelevant, but I just had a hot dog and fries with a side of gravey, and it was pretty good.
I appreciate your irrelevant comment, but now I'm hungry.
Ohoho I've been waiting for this one
Idk why but Mr.Brimstone looks like a Batman villain to me.
ALMOST 20K!!!
The line about the market bing black as soon as all the lights are off I took to mean illegal like a black market so I like the interpretation of being in the black
I have a little giggle at describing Mr.pages part as masterful as he is one of the masters of the bazaar.
I've never seen Oliver, but I know there's a "Wouldn't it be lovely" song in My Fair Lady!