Helicopter Armbar OR Helicopter Triangle? (A Gracie Debate)
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- Опубліковано 25 лис 2019
- Ryron is on Team Helicopter Armbar, and Rener is Team Helicopter Triangle for life. Leave a comment with your helicopter submission selection!
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Rener: "We don't agree on a lot of things."
Ryron: "That's not true."
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I would rather call it a triangle lift instead of helicopter because he doesn't spin
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I’m team helicopter into another helicopter - I get my opponent spinning so fast that he passes out from centrifugal force -
I'm more into helicopter Into reverse helicopter. I make my opponent spin me then I slam into his face with my forehead
@@dogman5791the helicopter crash
Or just flies away from the helicopter motion
Helicopter Upkick for the win! ;)
Ouch.... that is simple... but effective
Helikopter head kick more effective
truly street minded
Hahaha Ryron doesn’t agree with Rener about not agreeing 🤣love it...fun vid.
Helicopter triangle 🔥
I choose unconscious opponent over an opponent with broken bones
Matt G armbar can be much easier to get against big opponents sometimes too though. And it’s less fatiguing if you go for it and fail. Desperately trying for a triangle and failing will leave you completely gassed and defenceless
prandz420 I don’t know this really is a tough debate... I mean a helicopter sub is already just risky overall so like Rener said just getting the opponent up in the air is the toughest part, so I think once the opponent is in the air it’s a 50/50 either way you’ve got a successful sub unless the opponent has good enough instincts to stop either submission by standing for arm bar or getting the arm in like Ryron showed.
So I just say go with the choke over the arm bar because it’s the more threatening. And honestly in a street scenario i’m going arm bar over triangle all day since it’s so much easier to release while a triangle is just asking to be slammed Matt Hughes Vs. Carlos Newton style
Choke them out, then break their arm. That’s what coach teaches us always
That was hilarious when Ryron forced himself into the armbar :'D "armbar!", "nooo!", "armbar!! look"
4:18 "like a baby orangutan grabbing it's mother" this is why I come here.... Classic.
Stop at Chicago or direct flight?
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When Ryron forced himself into the arm bar 😂😂😂😂
Ikr I love it 😂
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3:09 “calm down” 😂😂😂
helicopter triangle all the way!
If you going for the triangle, what’s to stop the top guy from simply pulling his left arm back and stopping the whole move?
For sure bro 💯
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That was great. I liked the Triangle arm bar.
They remind me of two baby lions play-fighting
love both, but the armbar i did to a tough brownbelt training partner of mine whos like 50 pounds heavier and in the process my body-side foot got stuck in the gi and nearly broke as i spun him into the lock...
After that i started doing the triangle more and its been clutch in competition!
great vid thanks!
Helicopter sweep, position before submission 😎
Helicopter Triangle squad for life!
I wish I could train with you guys
I love their relationship 😅 It's a privilege to be able to learn from them in Torrance.
"We don't agree on a lot of things but we work em out"
"That's not true"
I love these guys!!! Making Jiu-Jitsu fun since...forever!
Helicopter Arm•bar or Helicopter Triangle....?
Answer: Yes
“I only talk about street fights”🤣🤣 luv it
Old Blue belt here. Love, love, love these videos; your enthusiasm is contagious now I just want to roll.
i still remember the first time i saw a helicopter armbar, i still consider it the prettiest move in JJ.
The passion you guys have is so beautiful 💯
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Love it! Brothers dynamics is contagious!
This is the most fantastic videos. I love the knowledge, and the brother dynamic reminds me of my own brothers. Keep up the amazing vids, mad respect for you both and of course the Gracie family!
So much fun learning from this two😍
Haha, the debate mid drill is always hilarious and awesome.
You guys are hilarious. The energy with you two is awesome.
-- The answer is like Yin and Yang, it's both...
You guys have so much fun!
BEAUTIFUL TECHNIQUE as always
You guys are so awesome. I have no idea which one. Either one would kick my butt.
Hilarious banter ... but a hellofalotta great information as well ! Super stoked you two are out there giving as this great information!
so bascically this is video should be titled "we were arguing on which helicopter submission someone be the judge of this"
Great breakdown love it thank you guys
I love you guys great 2 learn more from u both. Gratefull 4 life!!
I love this style of video!!
Love it, fun one to practice on your kids 😂
Do more of these! Great video.
Awesome and fun to watch 👍
The nIce thing about BJJ is that for every nice move there is a nice counter and a counter to that.
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Now there are 51 Shades Of Gray! You guys are the best!!
Helicopter arm bar for life plus looks more fancy 👌😎
I like both of them cause armbar and choke are very successful you guys are awesome!!!!
Both options are valid and have different applications. Triangle: heavier opponents because it requires less finesse; Arm Bar: more inexperienced or lighter opponents because its unexpected.
Damn guys you must make more videos,, you give us good vibes
Awesome as always guys
Love these guys
Armbar for life
I like the armbar because my intro was Pedro Sauer Path To Black Belt and he always liked to say "and into the armbar." Many people feel that is one of the most effective joint locks. Love, Mike.
My legs are too short to catch most people in triangle effectively, so I'm Team Armbar all the way.
I suggest you watch John Danahers video on the triangle. You just need more angle than someone with long legs
@@GKang93 Thanks for the tip! Great video with lots of useful information.
Gotta go with the armbar just because the spin looks so dope ;-)
How absolutely cool would it be to have Ryron or Rener as your very own private/personal BJJ coach/mestre? Mannnnn that would be glorious haha. One can dream! Love both of these guys.
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Without doubt the triangle choke for the reasons Rener stated. Under adrenaline or drugs a broken arm isn’t necessarily going to stop someone in a fight. However you can’t fight if you are unconscious.
Great video, thanks!!!
I'm on team Ryron on that one! I absolutely do NOT have the credentials to have a valid opinion on this, but I pulled a beautiful helicopter armbar once, and it felt like a million bucks. XD
I love these guys
Love the debate style teaching method. The material sticks better.
Awesome you guys! Parabéns!!
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Nice gear guys!!
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You guys are amazing 🤘
Such great videos
you are great; thanks guys
This was an awesome technique video
Up kick 3 times to triangle. I also love doing standing arm bar and a standing guillotine!!!! 4 years down and I cannot stop training! Can’t wait to get my two boys in there 🤙🏽
Triangle for sure it is very smooth, fast and you can't defense it in any way.. you have no chance but sleep
This was such a fun video
I literally watched this episode like 5-6 times already :)
I really love this interaction
You guys are the best
You two are hilarious lol and the arm bar is style points
You guys are awesome ❤️
That was super entertaining... Gonna go with....ahhhhh... Can't decide.
I choose both :D
"I only talk about street fights" -Rener Gracie while wearing a GI 😂 (I mean I don't see everybody on the street wearing bath robes and baggy pants)
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Love this
I freaking love you guys
Fun vid! Loved it.
This is hilarious and amazing
Good one guys
I'll go with arm bar because my legs are not long enough to secure a triangle unless I need more attention to training when practicing the triangle.
They make those look so easy
Awesome videos
Going with Ryron on this one!
Wow.. they both look sweet as hell! lol. I agree with Rener though. Flexibility is an issue with the helicopter armbar and submission resistance is more likely. The helicopter triangle does have a flaw as well but recovery seems easier and submission resistance is minimal (and it looks more awesome). lol.
I love both 👍👍👍👍
Helicopter triangle because it works from the standard guard pull and yoko tomoe nage 🔥
Well, the diameter of my thighs is the same as my inseam, soooo no fancy triangles in my game
Been syncing the helicopter triangle. My body just naturally did that one. Everytime I tell myself that I'm going to try the helicopter arm bar my mind tells me "ok let's do it" but my legs and my body says "HELICOPTER TRIANGLE FOR LIFE HOMIE!!!!!"
Brotherly love 👍
2:27 Rener only talks about street fights then demonstrates the importance of grips on a gi lmaooo
Helicopter Triangle! ♻️
Armbar FTW! Helicopter Triangle puts the attacker's head close enough to one's lower abs that the attacker could potentially bite that area.