*Motors covered in this video* 0:23 - Vision Marine electric outboards & boat packages 1:35 - Bell Marine Drivemaster 2:04 - Electric Stern Drives 2:17 - EPropulsion Electric Outboards 2:25 - Ion Electric Outboard preview 2:31 - Mercury Avator 7.5e, 20e & 35e Electric Outboard systems 4:12 Mercury Avator vs EPropulsion systems 4:56 - New lithium marine batteries on the market. 5:15 - Kilowatt to Horse Power Conversion formula vs actual performance 6:09 - Acel 50 Electric Outboard 6:22 - EPropulsion i20 6:40 - Electrine 115 Electric Outboard 6:56 - Conclusion
Great coverage! I'm still on team E-Propulsion. I like the small battery and carry a spare in a storage locker to swap out during the day. Granted its on a small boat and I don't need a lot. As battery tech and motors advance, I'm sure there will be some great competition in the market.
These smaller electic outboards are truly poised to make huge inroads for smaller boat use cases. And will drive innovation for larger vessels. Kudos for covering these electric motors! Our Green Boating community applauds!
Was with Mike during the week and was shocked how much electric propulsion systems there were there! Electric is moving into the boating market and honestly I saw tons of benefits. I have shorepower and the maintenance free design adds a lot of reliability.
The one thing no one addresses is how are marinas going to support electric charging? many of them are small family run businesses that would not have the budget to drop money into charging equipment. it makes sense for the bigger marinas along the coastline, but inner waterways and freshwater lakes maybe not yet.
I've been looking at the electrine 90hp for my boat for over a year good to see them attend Ibex but not sure if they have entered us market yet. Great video showing something you may not get in other Ibex coverage.
I know with a technical conversion is, but the actual real conversion of how they feel versus one of another is different. That’s where they get the actual rating from.
EV technology is great! I've enjoyed having a high power 75hp Stealth electric outboard on my 17' bow rider runabout. Excellent choice for the type of lake boating we enjoy. We can go over 20 miles on one charge. The top speed is 27 MPH and the last time out, we pulled the raft for fun. See video at: mark's gas to electric boat conversion. Go Electric!
I just want a nice electric outboard for that Miles Lite Skiff, trying to find something like 20 hp so I could really get some speed and be able to go around in dams and reservoirs but damn are they expensive and don’t even have that much HP
You can buy the motor from ePropulsion and attaching aftermarket battery to it. I'm sure he propulsion doesn't want you to do that so I guarantee in the future they will make it so the battery is not attached via cable that way you can't add your own battery
How about zero jet? Those guys are doing inboard outboard electric jet propulsion. I think they are out of New Zealand. I wonder if that is something similar to what epropulsion is doing???
Great video. I love my ol 1978 johnson stinger 75hp, and the smell of 2 stroke. The sound, smell, and vibrations, tells me I'm having fun. Its a phycological thing. That being said, rhis is the way of the future. Imagine how powerful the outboards are, and how small the batteries get along with greatly increased tunning time. Very exciting indeed. Someone needs to show this video to trump. Have you heard him ranting about being electrocuted or being eaten by a shark because the boat sinks from the weight of the battery? What a psychopath.
Battery is the most expensive part of the E motor, Mercury is against 3rd party battery systems...let's do some simple math here...carry the one...yeah they just want to protect their profits.
I do love electric outboards because they are a lot lighter than gas versions. However their range and speed is very limited and their price are a lot overpriced.
@the_wanderful_lifelol and the batteries in those cars last for minutes and then it's a couple hour charge, and it's pretty funny how my comments get deleted when I state the obvious... To power a 200hp motor for a hour at 200hp you roughly need a 150kw battery, that's very heavy and it will only power a 200 for 1 hour... Battery tech is not ready for high speed plaining boats, not even close. Highest capacity 18650 is still around 3.5ah as it was 10+ years ago.
@the_wanderful_life whats the point of getting a 200hp ob on a boat like that if you are not going plaining speeds? When I'm out boating I don't always run full throttle but if a storm is coming I can pin it full throttle and not have to worry about using up my entire gas tank in under a hour...
@the_wanderful_life not elderly at all and I seen people make the same woke comment over and over. When the car replaced the horse and buggy it was better technology in every way, batteries replacing ice is a massive step backwards with way too many compromises
The reason Mercury makes proprietary batteries is because that's where their money is. For them to make that battery cost them nothing but they can charge you as if it was a Chevy engine in there. You have DeWalt Ryobi all those companies make money on batteries they don't as much money on the drills and leaf blowers. Everything is about the battery. Plus it locks you in to their ecosystem where you can only get the batteries from them when they go bad which they will because again society today is not like it was back in the days where things lasted forever now things are made to break and not last as long so you buy new ones. Here's everybody's opportunity to blackball mercury and set precedent for the other companies to not do that
Ummmm dude youve said some dumb things but there is a direct comparison of hp to kw. In fact, it can be simply calculated. I think what you were looking for is the area under the torque curve is much larger on the electric motors. As for those big electric motors. Just imagine the size of the battery needed to run it. Boats are alreadyba fire hazard in a marina. Cant imagine any place allowing the storage of 400 lbs of LiPoFe4.
@@TBNationOutdoors ill humore the ridiculous statement for dialogue's sake. Lets start with chemistry. Gasoline will burn and is very volatile. A spark could cause a distaster. But a simple fuel fire can be extinguished easily and contained quick. But a battery? ONE SINGLE CELL has a thermal runaway and it can start a fire that is impossible to put out. For some perspective a car fire onlt needs 300 or so gallons as opposed to an EV car which needs 30 to 40 thousand gallons. Now for a battery to have the same range as a a 3 gallon gas tank on a modern 9.9 you would need 2800 18650 cells. Do some math and get that weight and price. If you have any corrosion, bms issues, charging issues, physical issues, etc. You have a disaster that is not containable. Anyone who thinks batteries have any business in recreational marine vehicles is willfullg ignorant or is trying to make money off stupid people.
@@jayyep6974LiFePO4 is incombustible. It can withstand very high temperatures without decomposing. LiFePO4 is not prone to thermal runaway generally either. It is a much stabler battery chemistry compared to other Lithium batteries like Lithium Ion used many years ago.
Is there any place that DOESN'T allow 400 lbs of LiPoFe4? Literally never seen it banned from any marina, storage facility, homeowners insurance, car insurance etc.
This channel is so annoying to me now.. tiny boat stuff that "average joe" could do turned into nonsense that has nothing to do with the average "tiny boat" owner. EAD UNSUBBED
*Motors covered in this video*
0:23 - Vision Marine electric outboards & boat packages
1:35 - Bell Marine Drivemaster
2:04 - Electric Stern Drives
2:17 - EPropulsion Electric Outboards
2:25 - Ion Electric Outboard preview
2:31 - Mercury Avator 7.5e, 20e & 35e Electric Outboard systems
4:12 Mercury Avator vs EPropulsion systems
4:56 - New lithium marine batteries on the market.
5:15 - Kilowatt to Horse Power Conversion formula vs actual performance
6:09 - Acel 50 Electric Outboard
6:22 - EPropulsion i20
6:40 - Electrine 115 Electric Outboard
6:56 - Conclusion
Great coverage! I'm still on team E-Propulsion. I like the small battery and carry a spare in a storage locker to swap out during the day. Granted its on a small boat and I don't need a lot. As battery tech and motors advance, I'm sure there will be some great competition in the market.
Right on
Same here. I love my Spirit 1.0 plus.
These smaller electic outboards are truly poised to make huge inroads for smaller boat use cases. And will drive innovation for larger vessels. Kudos for covering these electric motors! Our Green Boating community applauds!
Maybe I’m.missing something, but are you doing your Watts to HP conversion backwards? 0.75kW is equivalent to 1HP, not 1.5kW to 1HP.
So pleased to see the growth of epropulsion in the Marine Sector!
Wow what an incredible show,Electric is definitely the future,thank you Mike and the rest of the team TBN ❤
Was with Mike during the week and was shocked how much electric propulsion systems there were there! Electric is moving into the boating market and honestly I saw tons of benefits. I have shorepower and the maintenance free design adds a lot of reliability.
@@KayakDIY that must of been a lot of fun to hang with Mike and enjoy the show,thank you for your reply ❤️👍
The one thing no one addresses is how are marinas going to support electric charging? many of them are small family run businesses that would not have the budget to drop money into charging equipment. it makes sense for the bigger marinas along the coastline, but inner waterways and freshwater lakes maybe not yet.
A very extraordinary ship, with the best engines,
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I've been looking at the electrine 90hp for my boat for over a year good to see them attend Ibex but not sure if they have entered us market yet. Great video showing something you may not get in other Ibex coverage.
Thanks for the inspiration.
@TBNationOutdoors your 50hp elco video was part of my inspiration I just need a 90
It’s 750 watts (.75 kw) to 1 HP. On the batteries, a marinized server rack battery has more functionality and protection.
I know with a technical conversion is, but the actual real conversion of how they feel versus one of another is different. That’s where they get the actual rating from.
The free electricity at any dock will come to and end. Better take advantage!
So many cool things coming in the future
You need to change your avatar...
EV technology is great! I've enjoyed having a high power 75hp Stealth electric outboard on my 17' bow rider runabout. Excellent choice for the type of lake boating we enjoy. We can go over 20 miles on one charge. The top speed is 27 MPH and the last time out, we pulled the raft for fun. See video at: mark's gas to electric boat conversion. Go Electric!
I don’t want to ask but what were the prices for the Mercury electric outboards and their batteries?
A lot...
I just want a nice electric outboard for that Miles Lite Skiff, trying to find something like 20 hp so I could really get some speed and be able to go around in dams and reservoirs but damn are they expensive and don’t even have that much HP
You can buy the motor from ePropulsion and attaching aftermarket battery to it. I'm sure he propulsion doesn't want you to do that so I guarantee in the future they will make it so the battery is not attached via cable that way you can't add your own battery
My dream is a pontoon with electric motor and a solar hard top. all day cruising and fishing
Solar patron boats on market
They should make it easier to understand! Put HP # on the hood! Make in standard in the industry
We hope you can check out ours next time!
How about zero jet? Those guys are doing inboard outboard electric jet propulsion. I think they are out of New Zealand. I wonder if that is something similar to what epropulsion is doing???
I have no idea, but hopefully!
aquamot is awesome and works with any battery
Great video. I love my ol 1978 johnson stinger 75hp, and the smell of 2 stroke. The sound, smell, and vibrations, tells me I'm having fun. Its a phycological thing. That being said, rhis is the way of the future. Imagine how powerful the outboards are, and how small the batteries get along with greatly increased tunning time. Very exciting indeed. Someone needs to show this video to trump. Have you heard him ranting about being electrocuted or being eaten by a shark because the boat sinks from the weight of the battery? What a psychopath.
These are cool but I doubt they will become mainstream anytime until they become cost competitive against the gas powered versions.
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Battery is the most expensive part of the E motor, Mercury is against 3rd party battery systems...let's do some simple math here...carry the one...yeah they just want to protect their profits.
Wrong
I do love electric outboards because they are a lot lighter than gas versions. However their range and speed is very limited and their price are a lot overpriced.
746 Watts = 1 Horsepower
True 180 hp equivalent? 😲 The truth is there is no such thing. HP is HP. The 180 HP is a false claim.
Nation of power heads/motor heads. 180 hp? Just slow down ya'll. Electric tech is cool, but come on 'Murica!
The reason mercury won't allow 3rd party batteries is greed.
Battery tech is not there yet for high power plaining speed boats, not even close.
@the_wanderful_lifelol and the batteries in those cars last for minutes and then it's a couple hour charge, and it's pretty funny how my comments get deleted when I state the obvious... To power a 200hp motor for a hour at 200hp you roughly need a 150kw battery, that's very heavy and it will only power a 200 for 1 hour... Battery tech is not ready for high speed plaining boats, not even close.
Highest capacity 18650 is still around 3.5ah as it was 10+ years ago.
@the_wanderful_life whats the point of getting a 200hp ob on a boat like that if you are not going plaining speeds?
When I'm out boating I don't always run full throttle but if a storm is coming I can pin it full throttle and not have to worry about using up my entire gas tank in under a hour...
@the_wanderful_life not elderly at all and I seen people make the same woke comment over and over. When the car replaced the horse and buggy it was better technology in every way, batteries replacing ice is a massive step backwards with way too many compromises
The reason Mercury makes proprietary batteries is because that's where their money is. For them to make that battery cost them nothing but they can charge you as if it was a Chevy engine in there. You have DeWalt Ryobi all those companies make money on batteries they don't as much money on the drills and leaf blowers. Everything is about the battery. Plus it locks you in to their ecosystem where you can only get the batteries from them when they go bad which they will because again society today is not like it was back in the days where things lasted forever now things are made to break and not last as long so you buy new ones. Here's everybody's opportunity to blackball mercury and set precedent for the other companies to not do that
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Where is this guys trophy.... lets get him a #1 trophy please!!! LOL THanks for wathcing
Ummmm dude youve said some dumb things but there is a direct comparison of hp to kw. In fact, it can be simply calculated. I think what you were looking for is the area under the torque curve is much larger on the electric motors. As for those big electric motors. Just imagine the size of the battery needed to run it. Boats are alreadyba fire hazard in a marina. Cant imagine any place allowing the storage of 400 lbs of LiPoFe4.
So...LiPoe4 is more flamable than Gasoline? an unvented motor at start-up is a much bigger fire hazzard than a lithium battery.
@@TBNationOutdoors ill humore the ridiculous statement for dialogue's sake. Lets start with chemistry. Gasoline will burn and is very volatile. A spark could cause a distaster. But a simple fuel fire can be extinguished easily and contained quick. But a battery? ONE SINGLE CELL has a thermal runaway and it can start a fire that is impossible to put out. For some perspective a car fire onlt needs 300 or so gallons as opposed to an EV car which needs 30 to 40 thousand gallons. Now for a battery to have the same range as a a 3 gallon gas tank on a modern 9.9 you would need 2800 18650 cells. Do some math and get that weight and price. If you have any corrosion, bms issues, charging issues, physical issues, etc. You have a disaster that is not containable. Anyone who thinks batteries have any business in recreational marine vehicles is willfullg ignorant or is trying to make money off stupid people.
@@jayyep6974LiFePO4 is incombustible. It can withstand very high temperatures without decomposing. LiFePO4 is not prone to thermal runaway generally either. It is a much stabler battery chemistry compared to other Lithium batteries like Lithium Ion used many years ago.
Is there any place that DOESN'T allow 400 lbs of LiPoFe4? Literally never seen it banned from any marina, storage facility, homeowners insurance, car insurance etc.
@@MrJhchrist i dont even know how your question fits into the dialogue. 400 lbs of batteries isnt illegal to posses. Check.
Sorry I wouldn’t put my self at risk, too dangerous to go offshore
Wrong
Mercury is overpriced
Its definitely more expensive than the rest
Wrong
This channel is so annoying to me now.. tiny boat stuff that "average joe" could do turned into nonsense that has nothing to do with the average "tiny boat" owner. EAD UNSUBBED
I really like these guys a lot but you're right, they are kind of getting off the path.
It was a boat builders expo that happens once a year, relax man!
Stop saying “advancements”. The correct word is “advances”.
Grammar nazzis have no friends.
Nevertheless, you get the point.