They obviously clone the crews! Nah, jokes aside, he's usually asigned to shakedown cruises and during a few missions before returning to the Daedalus, after all, he's one of the most experienced navigators and gun operators around there
Even in his cameos on the other Stargate series, O'Neill gets some of the funniest lines. "By lawyer, I assume you mean mother." To Chloe Armstrong in the pilot episode: "I had some of my favorite arguments with your father."
@@justanotherhotguy Star Trek Generations. The Enterprise B (Excelsior Class) was designated to do a simple Test-Run from Earth to Vulcan with lots of Press on board and the old TOS Bridge Crew. Kirk, Uhura, Chekov & Scotty. The Enterprise received a emergency call and was - oh wonder - the only ship in range to intercept the emergency call. Because every Crewman on Bridge was inexpierenced the Captain of the Enterprise handed the command over the Ship to Kirk who couldn't really hold back. They came to the coordinates and most of the important stuff (Weapons, Tractorbeam and some other) weren't installed. The building crew wanted to install them next Tuesday.
DaedalusTV how, even half Ascended Anubis and Replicators could only go so far, these people aren't geniuses or technicians, they're former slaves and smuggler unleash an Ascended being helped them, remember the Daedalus class is an even match for an ANCIENT Warship unless each of those ships has a pair of ZPMs that's stupid
Lol love how the Daedalus class ship got damaged during that small fire fight, I mean come on people, this is the class of ships that fought against the Ori ships there is no way the shields would even come close to "failing"
We should grant latitude that technological upgrades could have been made to Ha'tak vessels since the end of SG-1 which make them more formidable against a 304.
Also they likely don’t have the shields up constantly, that’d drain the power supply unnecessarily. I can see the lucian ships managing to get enough hits in before the shields got up that they perhaps damaged the hammond enough for it to be possible to win.
Bleed through damage is not uncommon with most shields in Stargate, however it seems to be most severe with designs that utilize electricity based systems (Tauri, Traveler...) This could probably be mitigated by using separate power grids and powergenerators for shields and other systems, that would however also mean that you can't reallocate power to different systems on a need by need bases.
Remember that they were shielding the base from direct energy weapons, due to the fact that the naquadah-based weapons of the Ha'tak will undoubtedly trigger the chain reaction for the naquadriah core.
love the whole sam/jack scene at the end. cause they havent shared a scene in an episode since the shroud but they did share a few scenes together in Continuum.
I think the problem with SGU is the fact that it took so long to actually get moving. SG-1 and Atlantis had an overarching story but, for the most part, each episode was it's own story. SGU on the other hand, was just the same damned episode pretty much every week. Go through Stargate, get supplies, unlock new part of the ship, crew drama - repeat.
i'd hate to rain on your parade but SG-1 specifically suffered from a lot of the flaws you're describing. Haven't watched atlantis myself but i can only assume that it wasn't too different there. it had its charms but that hardly made the series good, the crew interactions is what really made this series what it was. I dare you to think what this series would've been without it. because it's not pretty.
John Blood My main problem is that Universe did not have the same chemistry as the teams from SG1 and Atlantis, as well as Universe did not have as much humor as the latter 2.
Scottx125Productions - Spiffingly Serious British Gaming! fair enough but Universe wasn't meant to have the kind of humorous atmosphere about it. The people are stranded in space aboard an alien ship with limited resources and almost daily life threatening problems. Personally i do think it was a poor choice to make something with such a serious and drama filled atmosphere that connects to SG-1 and Atlantis but, if you look at it as its own thing, i'd say it preformed quite well as a story. and as for the chemistry, Universe did have that, it wasn't as pronounced or in focus like it was in Sg-1 or Atlantis but it was there. the main focus of Universe was the circumstances they were in and how the people were coping with it instead of it all being in complete focus on the crew and their chemistry.
They should have just kept making Stargate and Atlantis , those shows were fun with good characters. SGU tried to go all dark and gritty but it just didn't work, didn't help that none of the characters were particularly likable
Let me get this straight: the Generald Hammond, a 304 battlecruiser, one of the series of ships that can take down Ori Motherships AND Wraith Hiveships, with powerfull beam weapons, shielding and all those cool Asgard things... is loosing against 3 Lucian Alliance Ha'taks? Ha'taks?! The weakest of the ships in the Stargateverse? No amount of upgrades (unless they are of replicator origin) can possibly explain this. No wonder SGU didnt last long...
Yeah they could have find way to explain that (like the George hammond had his shield down and had it's asgard weaponry damaged, or perhaps there was a treator onboard who sabotages the ship Even if lucian alliance ship are upgraded ha'taks they were still one shot during the super gate battle so yeah
In real life, weapons technology far outperforms defensive technology. Doesn't matter how advanced you are. Whoever lands a shot first will win. The element of surprise would be enough
Sad fact is Atlantis received consistent viewership. Universe received thr same viewership when it started, decline after the first few episode, then went back after the mid season. And continue to go up well into second season. Universe was doing better than Atlantis.
Yes, the show overall sucked... But still.. Fellow Gaters, we got to see 3 Ha'tak ships in glorious, updated 2009 era 3D! That was *amazing* and well worth it. The ships looked fantastic at 2:08.
Sucked? Hardly. It wasn't GREAT, but there was lots of opportunity for growth and improvement. And even at its worst, it was still better than a lot of its contemporaries (with only a few notable exceptions)
I was quite sad when this show got cancelled so early. As a casual Stargate fan who had seen nearly every episode of SG1 and a good portion of Atlantis, this series was by far the most fascinating to me. I simply couldn't believe it got canned so soon.
@@Devin-O hollow argument, TV networks do nothing but recycle and more garbage sticks around for long periods of time while unique ideas die. You have your opinion, but I stick by my (now quite old) statement that it was more interesting than the preceding series and the vast majority of sci-fi series we've seen since.
@@Naraku-no-Hana-WE SG1 had so much story, plot, synergy with the cast with light and dark humor it made you feel and root for the characters even the side cast. I did not feel any of that for SGU it was just trying to follow a linear path of a dark themed nature and the cast just zero chemistry. So I do stand by my previous comment it was just recycled dark drama show that fell on it's face.
@@Devin-O Yes, I'm well aware of your opinion and you should be well aware of mine. I don't agree one bit and arguing it over a show that's not coming back is pointless. SG1 had years and movies to get you invested in the characters and plot, SGU wasn't given that opportunity.
Indeed. Alas, I've always felt that it was due to it coming out so soon after Battlestar Galactica and the whole MGM bankruptcy. Not to say it was a ripe off of BSG. You go back and watch it now and it's astounding! But it's look and feel very much reflected BSG and thus people (at that time) were like, oh lord, not this style again. lol My two sense. ;)
2:15 and cater prooves that she is the wrong captain of the General Hammond... any other Daedalus class captain would have SLAUGHTERED the 3 Ha'tak's within seconds!
Damn I forgot how gorgeous this series was. Too bad the writing wasn't better. Anyone ever notice when a scifi franchise gets a serious budget increase the writing suffers for it? Almost seems like scifi is only good when it looks bad.
It wasn't so much the writing that was the problem, it was pacing and a not as much thought given to some of the characters. I know they wanted to push the fish out of water dynamic, but they may have pushed it a little too hard while they should have spent more time on the characters themselves. And I say Deep Space Nine was far better (in writing, story, character, setting, virtually all of the above) than The Next Generation, and still looked much MUCH better.
@@Latinofire202 Yeah. It's fine. There are elements I enjoy. But it was far below the quality of SG1 and SGA. Maybe that's just cause it was cancelled early so didn't have the chance to develop into something good. After SGA hit the ground running with a great first season SGU felt like a serious downgrade. Especially considering that SGU essentially replaced SGA. Atlantis was cancelled so more resources could be devoted to SGU and then when fans got mad about that they axed SGU as well. SGU wasn't terrible but I don't like the tone they went for. There was a certain charm to the humour of SG1 and SGA which SGU just lacked. An example of this is that RDA in SG1 would frequently ad lib lines and his cast mates, especially Michael Shanks would roll with it. These takes would frequently end up in the final product. In SGU every single ad lib that any of the oms crew did was cut because their humour didn't fit the tone of the new show. And I think I it lost something by trying to be that serious.
@@BadWolf739 well the aspects are completely different. In SG1 and SGA, the crews get to go back to base every episode. Obviously SGU didn't have that option so their situation was dire. There's nothing funny about being stuck on a ship with people who really have no business on this mission. They don't even have a doctor. Just a medic.
@@Latinofire202 There wasn't anything funny about be stranded a galaxy away from home in an ancient city that wasn't maintained and threatened to kill the inhabitants every other week. The "back to base" aspect between SGA and SGU was very similar in that both Destiny and Atlantis were inherently unstable and potentally just as dangerous as whatever planet they were just on. The point is not about the situation, it's that a show that piles on the dire and piles on the dire and piles on the dire without ever having moments of levity to reprieve the audience from that sense of doom has no where to go when things are supposed to get worse. It can't raise the tension because the tension is already pulled taught. The result was that they were a second away from destruction every minute of every episode and there's only so much of that you can really milk before it becomes a case of "Dawn's in trouble again, must be tuesday." You need a balance. It's why shows like Witcher have the serious Geralt paired with goofy Jasker. 100% Geralt isn't enjoyable. It didn't help that everyone on Destiny was constantly at each others throats. It's very hard to root for characters when they're all behaving like self righteous jackasses. SG1 and SGA had team cohesion. That's not to say they never had interpersonal conflict but there was always a trust that at the very least they wouldn't shoot you in the back the moment they had a chance. It's hard to have a show where the two main leads try to kill each other on a planet and I can't care less which one wins cause they're both insufferable.
@@neovoltron25 lol yeah. there clearly were similarities between the two. battlestar galactica too was more chill + dialog based entertainment instead of action all the time. i guess that is why it was not as popular
he actually looks a lot better than he did about a year ago! He had knee and back surgery (I think) and he gained a lot of weight from being in bed and all that. Good to see him back on his feet! Im sure he will continue to get back into shape.
Just finished binge watching SGU yet again. SGU was ahead of it's time, people weren't ready for another space scifi series in 2010.. fast forward to 2020, this show would make a killing today especially with Netflix and how popular space and scifi series are on Netflix. MGM needs to work out a deal get season 3 going. They did a fantastic job with SGU and I don't think SG fans at the time were ready for the different style of filming and editing they used for SGU but I loved it. It was more mature, realistic, better CGI, better props, better quality filming etc. This show would more than likely do very well in ratings today than it did then.
@@KevinSmith-gu7fb Characters were great, acting was phenomenal, story was actually interesting the more you paid attention to the story line. I felt the same way as you when I first saw SGU, It reminded me of Battlestar Galactica more than a Stargate Series but the more I rewatched it over the years, the more it became clear to me that SGU was exactly what the stargate series needed to compete with other modern sci-fi show but as a stargate SG1 fanatic when SGU first aired, I didn't like the changes it had i.e story, film style, actors etc but today i appreciate it a lot and i enjoy it just as much as i did with SG1 and Atlantis.
@@slothystyle I gave SGU an entire season plus maybe a little bit of the second season. I stopped watching in an episode where some blonde lady had a vision or dream about some cloud in the sky. Later, as she was walking through the ship, I said, "She's going to walk out there and see that cloud she dreamed about." Of course, that's what happened. I was done after that. When I don't care about the characters, don't care what happens with the story, and am mostly annoyed more than entertained by the show, there's no reason to keep watching. I also tried watching Battlestar Galacta twice, and it was the same way. Again, I never made it past the second season of it. It was the same for The Expanse for the same reasons.
OpenGL4ever The effect are different from Atlantis. And one thing that I notice here is the slightly shaky cam. It's true, Atlantis had great space battles, but somehow in this battle I see elements from Battlestar Galactica.
It's actually the shaky cam that makes the SGU's CGI sequences feel more real. Also SG1 and SGA used mostly still camera on ships, while in here the camera moves around more. Great example here is 2:15 , where the camera watches the CGI outside the bridge window, then turns towards Carter. This motion gives us more spatial awareness of the bridge, allowing us better to feel what it's like to be on the bridge, which again means more realistic feeling for the audience.
Couldn't they have just said that the Hammond didn't have Asgard weapons retrofitted yet? It'd be perfectly plausible that building more Asgard weapons would take a lot of time.
the one awesome thing to come from the cancellation of SGU? Carlye as Rumplestiltskin on Once Upon a Time. Can you imagine someone else playing Rumple?
THE BEST SCENE of this STARGATE SPINOF - imagine those types knocking on YOUR DOOR and telling you that sermon with " we beem you a board of our spaceship " Everyone would react the way the actor had demonstrated it.
Stargate Universe wasn't more mature than Stargate SG1, it was less so. It takes more courage to be optimistic and friendly in the face of adversity, than it does to be dark and cynical.
Adam Wade There's differance between adult entertainment and entertainment for adults. Sex scenes,violence and melodrama doesn't mean SGU is more mature.
mshara1, I totally agree with you. I think exactly like you and when we see soldiers' testimonies we see how vital it is to stand together, united, positive and to protect each other. It's a matter of survival. And adversity creates very deep intimate bonds. The complete opposite of SGU which is a caricature of screenwriters.
Re-watched SGU and I enjoyed it far more than i originally did. I would like to see the series continued now. There were a few problems with SGU that if removed, i think could lead to the series taking off: 1. No 'major' threat. Hear me out on this, yes we had the drones and the Blue aliens but they were poorly executed. The Drones are faceless enemies with no character. They were just there for trouble and the Blue aliens all we knew is they wanted Destiny, nothing more. With SG-1, SGA we knew the major threats and why. They were also a consistent foe that was developed. SGU could not seem to choose or develop a foe with character which led to them being boring. Yeah we had the Lucian Alliance, but apart from the ninth chevron thing they already did, what else could they do? Unless the writers found a way to get the Lucian Alliance ships near Destiny i think it wouldn't have worked either. 2. The constant personal stuff back on Earth A good idea on paper but it was over done, alot. It also detracted from the sense of isolation they were going for. SGA got this right, Stargate command came to the rescue at the end of the first season but it was never a they're going to be there all the time kinda thing. What they could have done, is had SGC send through a full compliment, fix Destiny and then proceed with less contact with Earth. That could have carried the story further than have SGC pop up possibly in a future major episode. 3. The lack of allies Yes this sort of relates to the alone aspect but the people of Novus could have been developed as a future ally. Sort of how SG-1 had the Asgard, Tok'ra and later Free Jaffa, SGA had the Travellers, Athosians and Todd. It could have made for a potentially interesting ally or possibly even a foe? Those are the things that come to mind for me but i still enjoyed the show more the second time through. Definitely has potential.
It reminded me a bit of Lost. Stranded in an unknown enviroment, trying to figure it out, with a focus on the characters. When I was watching it at first I hated it since I had just finished watching SG1 and Atlantis, so I stopped watching very early on. But a few months later, I came back to and really enjoyed it. There were some great storylines and Robert Carlyles acting was incredible. A lot of the younger characters who I hated early on developed really well later on as well, especially Eli. I think the series kinda suffered from its connection to Stargate, it was quite different.
Well.. the problem is you can't undo the already done episodes. The series kind of failed, mostly because of the poor writting, acting, low budget, etz. . Even if they get it together now... the first season already killed it for most fans or people who are interested in it. I don't know, how they could bring this back. I mean, even if you repair all the things. The mood, the settings, everything. This was supposed to be like atlantis, but more isolated, adventure style. But it just, wasn't done well. What would it be now? It's a bit too late for that.
It was great to see RDA and Amanda together again on SG. I hope they get to make more appearances on SGU. I saw where Michael Shanks will be making an appearance on SGU. That should be good. Thanks for posting this video. Nice scene.
This episode demonstrated from the start how bad it was at fitting into the actual universe they were playing with. You got a General going to a civilian house, behaving like this and being surprised at the reaction Eli gives them. Anyone who actually watched Atlantis or SG-1 should be livid about O'Neil behaving this way. They straight up drop a bombshell on Eli then abduct him anyway and threaten to mind wipe him for non-compliance with an NDA he does not even get time to read. Why even give him the NDA if your going to that ? The SGC just casually accepts abducting and mind-wiping now ? They wont even give Eli enough time to pack a bag or let anyone know where he is going within moments... not going to be suspicious at all or just a product of the lazy world building this entire series was going to demonstrate for the entire run. Cut to the the Lucian Alliance "suddenly" jumping in capability to take on the SGC which no-one should be buying without a VERY large explanation on the backs of SG-1 or SGA. That fight should have ended the moment Carter said "open fire".
The writers explained that the Hammond couldn't use it's Asgard beam weapons otherwise it would set off the naquadah radiation coming from the planet which would have destroyed the atmosphere.
Bek359 I'm not really sure but didn't they say that USS Hammond wasn't complete yet by that time because it was a new ship and they used for the transport in this episode (for Eli, Chloe etc.) because it's "just transport" and they didn't expect anything like this to happen?
If solving the math problem in the game opened a door. How did Dr. Rush know what the correct answer was to the math problem to open the door if he needed help solving it?
Mr.Hate - There was one episode of Atlantis where carter died crashing a daedalus class ship into a hive taking out 3 hives at once in an alternate timeline after Sheperd was sent several thousand years into the future if I remember correctly
I've only seen SG1 and SGA, I haven't seen SGU, but I thought the humans of Earth had Asgard tech and the Lucian alliance had Goa'uld tech. Shouldn't Carter had been able to annihilate the Lucians?
The Phoenix first appeared in an alternate timeline (SGA: "The Last Man") in the war against the Wraith known as Michael. The Phoenix was rushed into service & originally did not have many of the Asguard systems until Carter, McKay and Zelenka finished installing them. With Sheppard traveling back in time, the "true" timeline unfolded differently. Hence, it ended up renamed to George Hammond & may have been waiting on IOA budget approval for the beam weapons install at the time it was deployed.
The IOA was about the gate itself, it didn't have anything to do with the construction of the ships, also no one would build a ship without their main weapons being installed.
i dont get this nerfing. SGC got asgard beam weapons that took out the Ori toilet bowl- class ship in one hit, maybe two. how the hell did out of date stolen ha tak even stand up to them?
I think that the ninth chevron thing sounds very cool. the fact that they are traveling through the universe on an ancient ship gives also a sense of mistery. The idea itself is great and makes hundreds of new possibilities in new series to come. But I think the atmosphere will not so "cool" as in the previous series...
Might be time to come up with a sequel to Stargate Universe, after all the folks on that ship were in hibernation and Eli was left running the ship. Maybe it's time to wake some of them up and finish their trip on the other side of the universe.
I adore Jack and Sam and love SG1 and SGA. Hell, I watched the movie and the very first episode of SG1 to air on tv when I was 7 and never ever missed an episode. SGU on the other hand... The creators got greedy and started ignoring the fans, they claimed all will be well once the fans got their new "Stargate Fix". SGU was a failure from the moment it got the green light, and not even bringing in Rick, Amanda, and Michael could save it. To those that love SGU, *shrug*
Right now ... I feel like watching Helen Magnus (Sanctuary) in Stargate, reporting to Jack XD Seeing Sam with dark hair is strange, because I'm used to associate this image of Amanda Tapping with Helen Magnus and it makes everything look like a weird crossover. I wish SGU would have been more like Stargate SG-1...
Agreed. Amanda could have worn a wig just to keep the illusion of Samantha blonde. I recognize she was doing Sanctuary at the time but I didn't like the crossover. I prefer her the way she was.
I miss this franchise and in a way I miss SGU, if only for the potential that it held after it seemed the show was starting to come into its own, especially the last handful of episodes that appeared to show the show runners were trying to get back on track after a pitiful first season. It's just as shame that potential came too late and Syfy pulled the plug.
You all say that. ENT & SGU. It was "just getting good", it had "such potential" Everything has potential Every show can be fixed Not every show should be. Neither show had anywhere to go.
saquist Can you explain why you feel that SGU was a show that in your words could be fixed yet had nowhere to go? A statement with contradictions such as yours warrants more than a little elaboration as it currently reads as a divisive and mostly worthless remark meant to foster an "us vs. them" mentality and little else.
earlyriser03 Fixing SGU is easy. Step One: Create a true villain. Rush was perfect for the role. He's like House M.D...has his own agenda and doesn't care about everyone else. Entertain us with him DON'T GLOSS OVER HIS SHENANIGANS. Step Two Give us at least ONE HERO. Every Yang needs a Yin. Don't make him too perfect but don't make him or her as unscrupulous as Young or Telford. Give him room to grow Step Three: No more Deus Ex resolutions. If you put people in danger then kill them. That's what a gritter and dark show should do. Turn the cast over and shock us from the beginning and put the audience on notice. (No one is safe) Step Four: No more stupid people These maybe the wrong people on the wrong ship but for God's sake it's the Stargate program. A super-secret organization expanding the limits of mankind. You don't let stupid people find out about the gate unless it's politicians. Step Five: Real Conflict: Don't pass up good conflict like the politics vs Military...That's good stuff. That should be constant tension. If Eli is smarter pit him against Rush as whenever you can don't make Eli the smart pet of the ship. **Why does the show have no where to go** They designed SGU to be about the characters because they knew this ship's real mission was never going to be truly interesting and they didn't have a clue about what it's ultimate mission was. It was just a plot device to sustain constant conflict. People called Voyager "Gilligan's' Island because they were always going to be twarted with their efforts. The premise was going to be dragged out as long as humanly possible. The same was true with SGU and ultimately that a concept that will exhaust our suspension of belief.
But you got to emit that by the end of Stargate Universe it was getting pretty good, they should maybe do a final movie of it, and with the age differences they can just say that the stasis pods malfunctioned causing everyone to age normally, but still all in a hibernation keeping them alive on only energy, and taking a bit longer than expected to reach the next galaxy by like idk ah 8 years just doubled the estimated time. All caused by the aliens Eli defended the ship from in the comic book. Everyone was assumed KIA until Jack randomly appears on Destiny not knowing how the hell he got there, he thinks he's dreaming so he clanks his feet together like Dorthy and it did not work so then he's disappointed. The way he's now on Destiny is because of the crystals, malfunctioning and switching bodies, because everyone got released from the pods super confused, super late, and older. If you want me to write more I will, but for right now it's 3 in the morning ish, and i'm tired, and want to go to bed.
The camera work is another reason why this was a horrible show. Shots like 0:18, 2:05 and 2:54 forward give that uncomfortable and dirty feeling of peeping on your neighbors and eavesdropping on coworkers. Even the slowly moving side-to-side camera movements and the over-the-shoulder shots of characters talking to each other (as if you are there hiding behind a door and listening on to someone else's private conversation) all throughout this show add to that awful feeling.
Stargate isn't a perfect series. Lots of Mcguffins, Deus Ex machina and Plotholes But I've never seen so many as in SGU. And with out the mirth and humor that was synonymous with the other series SGU was just charmless bad TV.
+jazzthieve SGU was really bad. Too much niche fan service, and kowtowing to media. The media only liked BSG because "muh feminism" and "muh space soap opera" rather than for its sci fi
@@schwartzy65 Bullcrap, if you get a good cast it can still work. Look at Atlantis. Amazing show without the the original cast. Sure, RDA + Amanda Tapping is a special team, but the main thing which made this series great is the writing + dialogue and if you get actors who can deliver it, it doesn't really matter.
@@B20C0 that why remakes and reboots are mostly shit... But if they include all the lore of the previous shows and bring atleast some old cast as main or cameos ect it can work but not remakes ect
@fireman1991 it was rushed into service in the last episode of atlantis so it never got them installed and it was more of a hit-and-run ship then the others.
us air force: You solved a puzzle in a game you won a star trek style trip into outerspace. Me: Ok I've really got start doing more of these sidequests
The entire cast of Stargate including Apophis and the Asgard and even Worm Hole Extreme couldn't have saved this horrible Battlestar Galacrica wannabe show.
Damn, after like 15 years I didn't even realise that these people grew old. Still they are THE core and the hearth of the whole Stargate world.
27 years now
@@nitrothechamp damn, time sure does fly by
Proves that they're not Goa'uld anyway.
Amanda's only 3 years older than I, so no worries.
Try 29 years. Greetings from the future!
Seriously, is Major Marks assigned to every 304 ships built by the US Air Force?
They obviously clone the crews!
Nah, jokes aside, he's usually asigned to shakedown cruises and during a few missions before returning to the Daedalus, after all, he's one of the most experienced navigators and gun operators around there
when your good your good.
Space Force?
A few dedicated and very competent technicians who sign off on any hardware going into production is pretty standard in most industries.
Lana marks is underrated
Even in his cameos on the other Stargate series, O'Neill gets some of the funniest lines.
"By lawyer, I assume you mean mother."
To Chloe Armstrong in the pilot episode: "I had some of my favorite arguments with your father."
You are right
We’ll beam you up to our space ship!
Not really a cameo if he's still playing Jack O'nielle
@@Ryan_Dye-r cameo just is a brief appearance it has nothing to do with what character they’re playing
O'neill steal the show where ever he goes.
Will someone please explain to me how Amanda Tapping gets more and more ridiculously good-looking and gorgeous with every passing year?
She looks way better with the short hair
@@hunter_thespy1233 i thought that too till i saw her with long dark hair HOLY SHIT was i wrong
@@tripsix263 SAME
Tactically placed wrinkles
She's obviously siphoning the youth out of Richard Dean Anderson.
No asgard weapons....let me guess tuesday??
Hey i got that reference!!
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I forgot a bit what episode that’s from? Reminders?
@@justanotherhotguy Star Trek Generations. The Enterprise B (Excelsior Class) was designated to do a simple Test-Run from Earth to Vulcan with lots of Press on board and the old TOS Bridge Crew. Kirk, Uhura, Chekov & Scotty. The Enterprise received a emergency call and was - oh wonder - the only ship in range to intercept the emergency call. Because every Crewman on Bridge was inexpierenced the Captain of the Enterprise handed the command over the Ship to Kirk who couldn't really hold back. They came to the coordinates and most of the important stuff (Weapons, Tractorbeam and some other) weren't installed. The building crew wanted to install them next Tuesday.
@@Anthyrion well, I thought it was from DS9.
All they really needed was for the actual General Hammond to lean out of the window and scream YEE-HAW! Problem solved.
R.I.P Don.S.Davis.
Hammond from Texas
@@2LEP4 *Motions hand back and forth over head*
I thought that should have been the insignia patch for the USA Hammond. Lol
They are all getting old... So sad. Sg1 was my childhood :(
Imagine that this was almost 10 years ago they are even older then back then.
lol all of our childhoods are getting old ... although that's not a valid excuse for how awful SGU was compared to SG-1
Shit happens called live
Amanda Tapping still looks good. Saw her in something recently. Richard Dean Anderson was going through some health issues.
@@zombyslayrgaming Yeah but even she is past her peak (which was probably S7-S8 of SG1, she looked the best there)
"We'll beam you up to our spaceship."
And he wasn't joking
There's no way three ha'tak could take a Daedalus class, the Hammond should have one shotted the ships with the Asgard plasma beams
i know right wtf
BattlestarZenobia when the lucian alliace droped out of hyperspace, they fired directly on the hammond, so it was damaged
Actually the theory here is that not only have earth tech and ships advanced but the lucian alliance ha'tak' had been upgraded as well...
DaedalusTV how, even half Ascended Anubis and Replicators could only go so far, these people aren't geniuses or technicians, they're former slaves and smuggler unleash an Ascended being helped them, remember the Daedalus class is an even match for an ANCIENT Warship unless each of those ships has a pair of ZPMs that's stupid
BattlestarZenobia Yeah you're probably right, the Daedalus class was quite powerful and my favourite ship, hence the name I currently use ;)
you should've included them beaming him up to their starship - it's priceless.
Lol love how the Daedalus class ship got damaged during that small fire fight, I mean come on people, this is the class of ships that fought against the Ori ships there is no way the shields would even come close to "failing"
There's a difference between taking a beating from a couple Hive Ships and almost getting destroyed by three Ha'tak
We should grant latitude that technological upgrades could have been made to Ha'tak vessels since the end of SG-1 which make them more formidable against a 304.
Also they likely don’t have the shields up constantly, that’d drain the power supply unnecessarily. I can see the lucian ships managing to get enough hits in before the shields got up that they perhaps damaged the hammond enough for it to be possible to win.
Bleed through damage is not uncommon with most shields in Stargate, however it seems to be most severe with designs that utilize electricity based systems (Tauri, Traveler...)
This could probably be mitigated by using separate power grids and powergenerators for shields and other systems, that would however also mean that you can't reallocate power to different systems on a need by need bases.
Remember that they were shielding the base from direct energy weapons, due to the fact that the naquadah-based weapons of the Ha'tak will undoubtedly trigger the chain reaction for the naquadriah core.
love the whole sam/jack scene at the end. cause they havent shared a scene in an episode since the shroud but they did share a few scenes together in Continuum.
Sam and Jack are so a couple by this point x
I started watching this show again since the quarantine begin. I'm on SG1 season 8 and Atlantis season 1...
SAME
And I almost finished it...GD Amazon.
Only on SG1 season 6 right now.
I think the problem with SGU is the fact that it took so long to actually get moving. SG-1 and Atlantis had an overarching story but, for the most part, each episode was it's own story.
SGU on the other hand, was just the same damned episode pretty much every week. Go through Stargate, get supplies, unlock new part of the ship, crew drama - repeat.
i'd hate to rain on your parade but SG-1 specifically suffered from a lot of the flaws you're describing. Haven't watched atlantis myself but i can only assume that it wasn't too different there. it had its charms but that hardly made the series good, the crew interactions is what really made this series what it was. I dare you to think what this series would've been without it. because it's not pretty.
InsertCoinPlz My main problem I had with stargate in general is the 1 step forward, 5 steps back.
John Blood My main problem is that Universe did not have the same chemistry as the teams from SG1 and Atlantis, as well as Universe did not have as much humor as the latter 2.
Scottx125Productions - Spiffingly Serious British Gaming!
fair enough but Universe wasn't meant to have the kind of humorous atmosphere about it. The people are stranded in space aboard an alien ship with limited resources and almost daily life threatening problems. Personally i do think it was a poor choice to make something with such a serious and drama filled atmosphere that connects to SG-1 and Atlantis but, if you look at it as its own thing, i'd say it preformed quite well as a story. and as for the chemistry, Universe did have that, it wasn't as pronounced or in focus like it was in Sg-1 or Atlantis but it was there. the main focus of Universe was the circumstances they were in and how the people were coping with it instead of it all being in complete focus on the crew and their chemistry.
They should have just kept making Stargate and Atlantis , those shows were fun with good characters. SGU tried to go all dark and gritty but it just didn't work, didn't help that none of the characters were particularly likable
Let me get this straight: the Generald Hammond, a 304 battlecruiser, one of the series of ships that can take down Ori Motherships AND Wraith Hiveships, with powerfull beam weapons, shielding and all those cool Asgard things... is loosing against 3 Lucian Alliance Ha'taks? Ha'taks?! The weakest of the ships in the Stargateverse?
No amount of upgrades (unless they are of replicator origin) can possibly explain this. No wonder SGU didnt last long...
Yeah they could have find way to explain that (like the George hammond had his shield down and had it's asgard weaponry damaged, or perhaps there was a treator onboard who sabotages the ship
Even if lucian alliance ship are upgraded ha'taks they were still one shot during the super gate battle so yeah
In real life, weapons technology far outperforms defensive technology. Doesn't matter how advanced you are. Whoever lands a shot first will win.
The element of surprise would be enough
@@alext54973 men with AKs who lands the first shot on an abrams will still lose that fight
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Carter is pretty girl, but I always loved doc. Janet Fraiser, she was so cute
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Instead of SGU couldn't we have been given 2 more seasons of Stargate: Atlantis?
no.
Yes !!
yes!!!
Sad fact is Atlantis received consistent viewership. Universe received thr same viewership when it started, decline after the first few episode, then went back after the mid season. And continue to go up well into second season. Universe was doing better than Atlantis.
Or cut Atlantis a couple years short and started SGU sooner so it could run longer! ;-)
O'Neill, Carter... and the GOAT - Walter.
Yes, the show overall sucked... But still.. Fellow Gaters, we got to see 3 Ha'tak ships in glorious, updated 2009 era 3D! That was *amazing* and well worth it. The ships looked fantastic at 2:08.
Sucked? Hardly. It wasn't GREAT, but there was lots of opportunity for growth and improvement. And even at its worst, it was still better than a lot of its contemporaries (with only a few notable exceptions)
Imagine this production quality for a continuation of SG1 or Atlantis. THIS would be something...
I was quite sad when this show got cancelled so early. As a casual Stargate fan who had seen nearly every episode of SG1 and a good portion of Atlantis, this series was by far the most fascinating to me. I simply couldn't believe it got canned so soon.
When you recycle a show to many times and try to make it into drama horror it just fell on it's face.
@@Devin-O hollow argument, TV networks do nothing but recycle and more garbage sticks around for long periods of time while unique ideas die. You have your opinion, but I stick by my (now quite old) statement that it was more interesting than the preceding series and the vast majority of sci-fi series we've seen since.
@@Naraku-no-Hana-WE SG1 had so much story, plot, synergy with the cast with light and dark humor it made you feel and root for the characters even the side cast. I did not feel any of that for SGU it was just trying to follow a linear path of a dark themed nature and the cast just zero chemistry. So I do stand by my previous comment it was just recycled dark drama show that fell on it's face.
@@Devin-O Yes, I'm well aware of your opinion and you should be well aware of mine. I don't agree one bit and arguing it over a show that's not coming back is pointless. SG1 had years and movies to get you invested in the characters and plot, SGU wasn't given that opportunity.
Indeed. Alas, I've always felt that it was due to it coming out so soon after Battlestar Galactica and the whole MGM bankruptcy. Not to say it was a ripe off of BSG. You go back and watch it now and it's astounding! But it's look and feel very much reflected BSG and thus people (at that time) were like, oh lord, not this style again. lol My two sense. ;)
2:15 and cater prooves that she is the wrong captain of the General Hammond... any other Daedalus class captain would have SLAUGHTERED the 3 Ha'tak's within seconds!
Definitely.
2:34 "I'm detecting massive energy coming from planet."
line from the last episode of SG-1
Damn I forgot how gorgeous this series was. Too bad the writing wasn't better.
Anyone ever notice when a scifi franchise gets a serious budget increase the writing suffers for it? Almost seems like scifi is only good when it looks bad.
It wasn't so much the writing that was the problem, it was pacing and a not as much thought given to some of the characters. I know they wanted to push the fish out of water dynamic, but they may have pushed it a little too hard while they should have spent more time on the characters themselves.
And I say Deep Space Nine was far better (in writing, story, character, setting, virtually all of the above) than The Next Generation, and still looked much MUCH better.
Have you rewatched SGU lately??
@@Latinofire202 Yeah. It's fine. There are elements I enjoy. But it was far below the quality of SG1 and SGA. Maybe that's just cause it was cancelled early so didn't have the chance to develop into something good. After SGA hit the ground running with a great first season SGU felt like a serious downgrade. Especially considering that SGU essentially replaced SGA. Atlantis was cancelled so more resources could be devoted to SGU and then when fans got mad about that they axed SGU as well.
SGU wasn't terrible but I don't like the tone they went for. There was a certain charm to the humour of SG1 and SGA which SGU just lacked. An example of this is that RDA in SG1 would frequently ad lib lines and his cast mates, especially Michael Shanks would roll with it. These takes would frequently end up in the final product. In SGU every single ad lib that any of the oms crew did was cut because their humour didn't fit the tone of the new show. And I think I it lost something by trying to be that serious.
@@BadWolf739 well the aspects are completely different. In SG1 and SGA, the crews get to go back to base every episode. Obviously SGU didn't have that option so their situation was dire. There's nothing funny about being stuck on a ship with people who really have no business on this mission. They don't even have a doctor. Just a medic.
@@Latinofire202 There wasn't anything funny about be stranded a galaxy away from home in an ancient city that wasn't maintained and threatened to kill the inhabitants every other week. The "back to base" aspect between SGA and SGU was very similar in that both Destiny and Atlantis were inherently unstable and potentally just as dangerous as whatever planet they were just on.
The point is not about the situation, it's that a show that piles on the dire and piles on the dire and piles on the dire without ever having moments of levity to reprieve the audience from that sense of doom has no where to go when things are supposed to get worse. It can't raise the tension because the tension is already pulled taught. The result was that they were a second away from destruction every minute of every episode and there's only so much of that you can really milk before it becomes a case of "Dawn's in trouble again, must be tuesday." You need a balance. It's why shows like Witcher have the serious Geralt paired with goofy Jasker. 100% Geralt isn't enjoyable.
It didn't help that everyone on Destiny was constantly at each others throats. It's very hard to root for characters when they're all behaving like self righteous jackasses. SG1 and SGA had team cohesion. That's not to say they never had interpersonal conflict but there was always a trust that at the very least they wouldn't shoot you in the back the moment they had a chance. It's hard to have a show where the two main leads try to kill each other on a planet and I can't care less which one wins cause they're both insufferable.
This was so good. It's a shame it did not last long. The cinematography is soooooo cool!
i think the plot was great too. i hoped for years there would be 3rd season at least. the plot was so nice
Very Battlestar Galactica
@@neovoltron25 lol yeah. there clearly were similarities between the two. battlestar galactica too was more chill + dialog based entertainment instead of action all the time. i guess that is why it was not as popular
he actually looks a lot better than he did about a year ago! He had knee and back surgery (I think) and he gained a lot of weight from being in bed and all that. Good to see him back on his feet! Im sure he will continue to get back into shape.
Every time someone in sci-fi gets promoted to a desk job, they start going fat. Jack O'Neill, James Kirk, General Leia......
Its because richard dean anderson was recovering from leg surgery the steroids they gave him caused him to put on weight.
That's realistic. I got fat after getting a desk job, too.
theyre also older
not just in sci-fi...
I got fat and then they gave me a desk job. Does that count?
Just finished binge watching SGU yet again. SGU was ahead of it's time, people weren't ready for another space scifi series in 2010.. fast forward to 2020, this show would make a killing today especially with Netflix and how popular space and scifi series are on Netflix. MGM needs to work out a deal get season 3 going. They did a fantastic job with SGU and I don't think SG fans at the time were ready for the different style of filming and editing they used for SGU but I loved it. It was more mature, realistic, better CGI, better props, better quality filming etc. This show would more than likely do very well in ratings today than it did then.
It is 8 years right now. I don't think bringing cast again would be easy thing
Regardless, the stories and characters sucked, and without those things, you don't have a show...or at least you shouldn't have one.
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Characters were great, acting was phenomenal, story was actually interesting the more you paid attention to the story line. I felt the same way as you when I first saw SGU, It reminded me of Battlestar Galactica more than a Stargate Series but the more I rewatched it over the years, the more it became clear to me that SGU was exactly what the stargate series needed to compete with other modern sci-fi show but as a stargate SG1 fanatic when SGU first aired, I didn't like the changes it had i.e story, film style, actors etc but today i appreciate it a lot and i enjoy it just as much as i did with SG1 and Atlantis.
@@slothystyle I gave SGU an entire season plus maybe a little bit of the second season. I stopped watching in an episode where some blonde lady had a vision or dream about some cloud in the sky. Later, as she was walking through the ship, I said, "She's going to walk out there and see that cloud she dreamed about." Of course, that's what happened. I was done after that. When I don't care about the characters, don't care what happens with the story, and am mostly annoyed more than entertained by the show, there's no reason to keep watching. I also tried watching Battlestar Galacta twice, and it was the same way. Again, I never made it past the second season of it. It was the same for The Expanse for the same reasons.
@@KevinSmith-gu7fb then its not the problem with those shows....
2:07-2:20 i want a Stargate series with that visual style for space battles
saveschi Then watch Stargate Atlantis.
OpenGL4ever The effect are different from Atlantis. And one thing that I notice here is the slightly shaky cam. It's true, Atlantis had great space battles, but somehow in this battle I see elements from Battlestar Galactica.
+saveschi Yea the company they used for the VFX on atlantis is the same on SGU, it's just they had way more money
This show literally copied battlestar galactica... Its shit style
It's actually the shaky cam that makes the SGU's CGI sequences feel more real. Also SG1 and SGA used mostly still camera on ships, while in here the camera moves around more. Great example here is 2:15 , where the camera watches the CGI outside the bridge window, then turns towards Carter. This motion gives us more spatial awareness of the bridge, allowing us better to feel what it's like to be on the bridge, which again means more realistic feeling for the audience.
How the fuck do Hataks have a chance against Earth ships i mean they got one shotted by the Ori ships
+Emperor Angelos the Asgard weapons would have destabilized the planets core.
+Chris “Retsialg13” Glaister
How the plasma beam weapons effect the planet when the battle is completely in space?! XD
inorder to combat the outrage the said that the LA has developed a counter to the beam weapon of crouse this only caused more out rage
Couldn't they have just said that the Hammond didn't have Asgard weapons retrofitted yet? It'd be perfectly plausible that building more Asgard weapons would take a lot of time.
yeah they could they didn't
“We’ll beam you up to our spaceship.”
He wasn’t lying.
Good god! Amanda Tapping just CAN NOT get unattractive even as she gets older.... o.O
Looked much better with long hair.
Ohh c'mon, she had that "overly make up grandma" looks there.
The dead pan stares from the spaceship line will always get me.
the one awesome thing to come from the cancellation of SGU? Carlye as Rumplestiltskin on Once Upon a Time. Can you imagine someone else playing Rumple?
Amen to that!!
No because I'd rather imagine it cancelled
Not a good tradeoff
Ohhh, they did go for the "younger and edgier" actors like in the 200th episode spoof. Sad.
Yeah... And no strong opening title sequence, no one does that anymore. They just throw up the title and get on with it.
Lmao just watched that episode 5 mins ago
Exactly this!
THE BEST SCENE of this STARGATE SPINOF - imagine those types knocking on YOUR DOOR and telling you that sermon with " we beem you a board of our spaceship " Everyone would react the way the actor had demonstrated it.
Funny thing, they could of beamed him
This show had so much promise and it took until season 2.5 for any of it to be realized.
Carter got even hotter when she went long haired and brunette. RAWRRRRR
+Aivottaja
I always wanted Carter to get long hair in the series, long hair looks so much better for her ^^
*****
And personally, I think brown is a better hair color for her :)
Aivottaja
I don't really care for her hair colour though XD
*****
Well, neither do I. Just sayin' it looks better.
She's like 65 in this clip
Stargate Universe wasn't more mature than Stargate SG1, it was less so.
It takes more courage to be optimistic and friendly in the face of adversity, than it does to be dark and cynical.
Darn straight...
uh, wut lol. SG1 was really for children. SGU should have been on a channel like FX, AMC, or premium cable.
Adam Wade There's differance between adult entertainment and entertainment for adults. Sex scenes,violence and melodrama doesn't mean SGU is more mature.
mshara1, I totally agree with you. I think exactly like you and when we see soldiers' testimonies we see how vital it is to stand together, united, positive and to protect each other. It's a matter of survival. And adversity creates very deep intimate bonds. The complete opposite of SGU which is a caricature of screenwriters.
Adam Wade sg1 first aired on showtime
Re-watched SGU and I enjoyed it far more than i originally did. I would like to see the series continued now. There were a few problems with SGU that if removed, i think could lead to the series taking off:
1. No 'major' threat.
Hear me out on this, yes we had the drones and the Blue aliens but they were poorly executed. The Drones are faceless enemies with no character. They were just there for trouble and the Blue aliens all we knew is they wanted Destiny, nothing more. With SG-1, SGA we knew the major threats and why. They were also a consistent foe that was developed. SGU could not seem to choose or develop a foe with character which led to them being boring. Yeah we had the Lucian Alliance, but apart from the ninth chevron thing they already did, what else could they do? Unless the writers found a way to get the Lucian Alliance ships near Destiny i think it wouldn't have worked either.
2. The constant personal stuff back on Earth
A good idea on paper but it was over done, alot. It also detracted from the sense of isolation they were going for. SGA got this right, Stargate command came to the rescue at the end of the first season but it was never a they're going to be there all the time kinda thing. What they could have done, is had SGC send through a full compliment, fix Destiny and then proceed with less contact with Earth. That could have carried the story further than have SGC pop up possibly in a future major episode.
3. The lack of allies
Yes this sort of relates to the alone aspect but the people of Novus could have been developed as a future ally. Sort of how SG-1 had the Asgard, Tok'ra and later Free Jaffa, SGA had the Travellers, Athosians and Todd. It could have made for a potentially interesting ally or possibly even a foe?
Those are the things that come to mind for me but i still enjoyed the show more the second time through. Definitely has potential.
Great show need a third season
+James060394 theres a petition to get it back, it needs 100k signatures and its on 96k
+James060394
Personaly i think the Lucian Alliance would had been a great antagonist group if there ever was an NID spin off series.
It reminded me a bit of Lost. Stranded in an unknown enviroment, trying to figure it out, with a focus on the characters. When I was watching it at first I hated it since I had just finished watching SG1 and Atlantis, so I stopped watching very early on. But a few months later, I came back to and really enjoyed it. There were some great storylines and Robert Carlyles acting was incredible. A lot of the younger characters who I hated early on developed really well later on as well, especially Eli. I think the series kinda suffered from its connection to Stargate, it was quite different.
Well.. the problem is you can't undo the already done episodes. The series kind of failed, mostly because of the poor writting, acting, low budget, etz. . Even if they get it together now... the first season already killed it for most fans or people who are interested in it.
I don't know, how they could bring this back. I mean, even if you repair all the things. The mood, the settings, everything. This was supposed to be like atlantis, but more isolated, adventure style. But it just, wasn't done well.
What would it be now? It's a bit too late for that.
Certain tv shows lend themselves to the floaty/jumpy camerawork (i.e. 24) but Stargate isn't one of them.
+jsmurley1289 I haven't seen one yet that is good. Every single one makes me want to scream at the TV hold the camera still!
It was great to see RDA and Amanda together again on SG. I hope they get to make more appearances on SGU. I saw where Michael Shanks will be making an appearance on SGU. That should be good. Thanks for posting this video. Nice scene.
This just makes me sad because I’m watching it right now and while it’s sad I love these guys
Fat MacGyver and brown haired Sam, parallel universe confirmed!
Uh asgard plasma beam weapons?
+Bob Jenkins Literally it's like they were purposely handicapping the Hammond to aid the story
+851995STARGATE They couldnt use the weapons because the energy release could trigger the naquadria planetto explode
+Quentin Sciascia not once was that said and that's totally untrue
+851995STARGATE Not in this vid, but go watch episode 1 (full version) its mentioned in there
+Quentin Sciascia I watched it and read the script its not mentioned lmfao
Man, not working in the field sure gave O'Neill time to put on those General's pounds.
lmao @ the Eli scene and the way Nicholas & Jack looks at each other when he closes the door. :D Thanks for uploading this
i think it would have been neat if this had been the last they'd seen of earth, instead of all the body switching allowing everyone to communicate.
I liked it. In the begging was useless, but then it started to flurish. Especialy in episode with Rodney Mac Kay
This episode demonstrated from the start how bad it was at fitting into the actual universe they were playing with.
You got a General going to a civilian house, behaving like this and being surprised at the reaction Eli gives them.
Anyone who actually watched Atlantis or SG-1 should be livid about O'Neil behaving this way. They straight up drop a bombshell on Eli then abduct him anyway and threaten to mind wipe him for non-compliance with an NDA he does not even get time to read.
Why even give him the NDA if your going to that ?
The SGC just casually accepts abducting and mind-wiping now ?
They wont even give Eli enough time to pack a bag or let anyone know where he is going within moments... not going to be suspicious at all or just a product of the lazy world building this entire series was going to demonstrate for the entire run.
Cut to the the Lucian Alliance "suddenly" jumping in capability to take on the SGC which no-one should be buying without a VERY large explanation on the backs of SG-1 or SGA. That fight should have ended the moment Carter said "open fire".
Hey Samatha USS Hammond have a Asgard plasma beam weapons.
The writers explained that the Hammond couldn't use it's Asgard beam weapons otherwise it would set off the naquadah radiation coming from the planet which would have destroyed the atmosphere.
ehstronghold
was this explained in a deleted scene or something?
ehstronghold The more likely explanation is that the writers forgot about them.
Bek359 I'm not really sure but didn't they say that USS Hammond wasn't complete yet by that time because it was a new ship and they used for the transport in this episode (for Eli, Chloe etc.) because it's "just transport" and they didn't expect anything like this to happen?
Domihork
No. That definitely wasnt said in this episode.
I believe that was for the last episode of atlantis.
If solving the math problem in the game opened a door. How did Dr. Rush know what the correct answer was to the math problem to open the door if he needed help solving it?
Carter looks much better with long hair ^^
Hi! Could you please tell me, is she alive or not? I just see some videos in youtube where it says Carter is died while spaceship battles
Mr.Hate
She was alive at the end SG1. :\
Mr.Hate - There was one episode of Atlantis where carter died crashing a daedalus class ship into a hive taking out 3 hives at once in an alternate timeline after Sheperd was sent several thousand years into the future if I remember correctly
@@MrHateanyman in alternate realities she has died I believe she still lived on i haven't watch sgu in a while
@@MrHateanyman She's alive
I've only seen SG1 and SGA, I haven't seen SGU, but I thought the humans of Earth had Asgard tech and the Lucian alliance had Goa'uld tech. Shouldn't Carter had been able to annihilate the Lucians?
The Phoenix first appeared in an alternate timeline (SGA: "The Last Man") in the war against the Wraith known as Michael. The Phoenix was rushed into service & originally did not have many of the Asguard systems until Carter, McKay and Zelenka finished installing them. With Sheppard traveling back in time, the "true" timeline unfolded differently. Hence, it ended up renamed to George Hammond & may have been waiting on IOA budget approval for the beam weapons install at the time it was deployed.
The IOA was about the gate itself, it didn't have anything to do with the construction of the ships, also no one would build a ship without their main weapons being installed.
@LivesForJihad The George Hammond IIRC wasn't finished yet at the time, the Asgard Plasma Beam Cannons probably weren't (fully) Installed yet.
Lucian alliance ships are no match for an Asgard upgraded X-304. SGU is a good Sci Fi show, but it's not a Stargate show.
Sam: 'then where'd they go?'
Me: the other side of the universe...
Carter ''Dont tell me...Tuesday?'' :)
Stargate Universe was such a great show. Ended all too soon.
i dont get this nerfing. SGC got asgard beam weapons that took out the Ori toilet bowl- class ship in one hit, maybe two. how the hell did out of date stolen ha tak even stand up to them?
They shoulda made "The Last Starfighter" reference.
@Saiyan0X That is a bloody good point. I didn't pick up on it because I was confused by the editing and hectic story telling.
Favourite part 2:08 - 2:45 like that soundtrack so thrilling for the moment.
Non Disclousure Agreements within SimCity can come with Chat Leaks.
I think that the ninth chevron thing sounds very cool. the fact that they are traveling through the universe on an ancient ship gives also a sense of mistery. The idea itself is great and makes hundreds of new possibilities in new series to come.
But I think the atmosphere will not so "cool" as in the previous series...
Might be time to come up with a sequel to Stargate Universe, after all the folks on that ship were in hibernation and Eli was left running the ship. Maybe it's time to wake some of them up and finish their trip on the other side of the universe.
I adore Jack and Sam and love SG1 and SGA. Hell, I watched the movie and the very first episode of SG1 to air on tv when I was 7 and never ever missed an episode. SGU on the other hand... The creators got greedy and started ignoring the fans, they claimed all will be well once the fans got their new "Stargate Fix". SGU was a failure from the moment it got the green light, and not even bringing in Rick, Amanda, and Michael could save it. To those that love SGU, *shrug*
Love this show.
Right now ... I feel like watching Helen Magnus (Sanctuary) in Stargate, reporting to Jack XD Seeing Sam with dark hair is strange, because I'm used to associate this image of Amanda Tapping with Helen Magnus and it makes everything look like a weird crossover. I wish SGU would have been more like Stargate SG-1...
Agreed.
Amanda could have worn a wig just to keep the illusion of Samantha blonde. I recognize she was doing Sanctuary at the time but I didn't like the crossover. I prefer her the way she was.
@@staroceans8677 I just assumed it was to show her aging. Blondes tend to get darker over time.
Thanks for that, then Im glad I missed it. Man what a great show that was.
I miss this franchise and in a way I miss SGU, if only for the potential that it held after it seemed the show was starting to come into its own, especially the last handful of episodes that appeared to show the show runners were trying to get back on track after a pitiful first season. It's just as shame that potential came too late and Syfy pulled the plug.
You all say that.
ENT & SGU.
It was "just getting good", it had "such potential"
Everything has potential
Every show can be fixed
Not every show should be.
Neither show had anywhere to go.
saquist Can you explain why you feel that SGU was a show that in your words could be fixed yet had nowhere to go? A statement with contradictions such as yours warrants more than a little elaboration as it currently reads as a divisive and mostly worthless remark meant to foster an "us vs. them" mentality and little else.
earlyriser03
Fixing SGU is easy.
Step One:
Create a true villain. Rush was perfect for the role. He's like House M.D...has his own agenda and doesn't care about everyone else. Entertain us with him DON'T GLOSS OVER HIS SHENANIGANS.
Step Two
Give us at least ONE HERO.
Every Yang needs a Yin. Don't make him too perfect but don't make him or her as unscrupulous as Young or Telford. Give him room to grow
Step Three:
No more Deus Ex resolutions.
If you put people in danger then kill them.
That's what a gritter and dark show should do.
Turn the cast over and shock us from the beginning and put the audience on notice.
(No one is safe)
Step Four:
No more stupid people
These maybe the wrong people on the wrong ship but for God's sake it's the Stargate program. A super-secret organization expanding the limits of mankind. You don't let stupid people find out about the gate unless it's politicians.
Step Five:
Real Conflict:
Don't pass up good conflict like the politics vs Military...That's good stuff. That should be constant tension. If Eli is smarter pit him against Rush as whenever you can don't make Eli the smart pet of the ship.
**Why does the show have no where to go**
They designed SGU to be about the characters because they knew this ship's real mission was never going to be truly interesting and they didn't have a clue about what it's ultimate mission was. It was just a plot device to sustain constant conflict.
People called Voyager "Gilligan's' Island because they were always going to be twarted with their efforts. The premise was going to be dragged out as long as humanly possible. The same was true with SGU and ultimately that a concept that will exhaust our suspension of belief.
Sam is still as cute as 15 years earlier when she first appeared in SG1 ... maybe even cuter.
But you got to emit that by the end of Stargate Universe it was getting pretty good, they should maybe do a final movie of it, and with the age differences they can just say that the stasis pods malfunctioned causing everyone to age normally, but still all in a hibernation keeping them alive on only energy, and taking a bit longer than expected to reach the next galaxy by like idk ah 8 years just doubled the estimated time. All caused by the aliens Eli defended the ship from in the comic book. Everyone was assumed KIA until Jack randomly appears on Destiny not knowing how the hell he got there, he thinks he's dreaming so he clanks his feet together like Dorthy and it did not work so then he's disappointed. The way he's now on Destiny is because of the crystals, malfunctioning and switching bodies, because everyone got released from the pods super confused, super late, and older. If you want me to write more I will, but for right now it's 3 in the morning ish, and i'm tired, and want to go to bed.
@RemixPicture i have watched the sg1 series for like 5 or 6 times again:D
Damn I forgot how bad the camera angles were with Universe.
The camera work is another reason why this was a horrible show. Shots like 0:18, 2:05 and 2:54 forward give that uncomfortable and dirty feeling of peeping on your neighbors and eavesdropping on coworkers. Even the slowly moving side-to-side camera movements and the over-the-shoulder shots of characters talking to each other (as if you are there hiding behind a door and listening on to someone else's private conversation) all throughout this show add to that awful feeling.
Seeing Samantha Carter was the best 3 mins of SGU. The rest of SGU was a trainwreck.
Stargate isn't a perfect series. Lots of Mcguffins, Deus Ex machina and Plotholes
But I've never seen so many as in SGU. And with out the mirth and humor that was synonymous with the other series SGU was just charmless bad TV.
+saquist
*Lots of Mcguffins, Deus Ex machina and Plotholes. But I've never seen so many as in SGU*
I challenge you to name even one.
There aren't any. SGU can't compare to the amount of cheesiness and deus ex machinas in the original two series.
Why is Carter's hair longer than regulations allow?
+jazzthieve SGU was really bad. Too much niche fan service, and kowtowing to media. The media only liked BSG because "muh feminism" and "muh space soap opera" rather than for its sci fi
oh gosh for apleasure it is real pleasure !!
oh it is like i'm seeing stargate SG 1!
Anyone else want to see RDA as General Hammond in the Stargate reboot?
Vasun05 there arent going to be any reboot or remake and im happpy thats the case... whitout sg1 crew the show cant work
schwartzy65 yeah I heard this was made when they were
Don S. Davis passed away...
@@schwartzy65 Bullcrap, if you get a good cast it can still work. Look at Atlantis. Amazing show without the the original cast. Sure, RDA + Amanda Tapping is a special team, but the main thing which made this series great is the writing + dialogue and if you get actors who can deliver it, it doesn't really matter.
@@B20C0 that why remakes and reboots are mostly shit... But if they include all the lore of the previous shows and bring atleast some old cast as main or cameos ect it can work but not remakes ect
Ughhhhh! I miss this show
Bring it back!
WALTER!!!! :D
Hi I’m Nouwa Rymer from Melbourne Australia. I miss watching All Stargate episodes !. WHY WAS IT COUNCIL ?.
dark matter was pretty good
I wonder why they cut this short,I really wanted to know what happened
oh, look it's Rumplestiltskin at Eli's door.... does he want to make a deal?
Magic always comes with a price, Dearie
@ta7910th it was stated i think that the Lucian alliance upgraded ships with ancient shields like Anubis after he "died"
Amanda Tapping is one of those rare ladies who look good with short hair ..., she also looks good with a pony tail
In love with that show !
Much better without the ultra blond hair.
@fireman1991 it was rushed into service in the last episode of atlantis so it never got them installed and it was more of a hit-and-run ship then the others.
Aww come on give him a break, he's been sick and he's getting older.
I would love to see more of Colonel Carter in command of her own BC-304
It's not the same.
us air force: You solved a puzzle in a game you won a star trek style trip into outerspace.
Me: Ok I've really got start doing more of these sidequests
This show spent way to much time on the Alutian Alliance plot, so boring and uninteresting, unnecessary violence.
2:14 Where are the blue plasma OP weapons???? Isnt that after Atlantis. Sorry now I see that they are missing..
I'm very sad this crap killed a few seasons of SG:Atlantis. Had it not been for this shit, SG:A would've run for another 3 seasons easily.
fxp You are so right...
RFS Korolev SGU was my favorite series, extremely unpopular opinion.
Why didn’t the uss general Hammond use the Asgard beam weapons?
The entire cast of Stargate including Apophis and the Asgard and even Worm Hole Extreme couldn't have saved this horrible Battlestar Galacrica wannabe show.
Yeah, it just wasn't Stargate. It was basically "bastards in space", a knockoff from "assholes in space".
You should also ask him about MK Ultra Experimentations!