Winston Marshall: Why I left Mumford and Sons

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  • @UnHerd
    @UnHerd  3 роки тому +47

    What do you think about Winston leaving Mumford and Sons?

    • @DocMajor
      @DocMajor 3 роки тому +76

      I think the rest of the band is spineless. Without Winston there is no Mumford and Sons. Happy to use his father's fortunes in the early years but throw him to the wolves the very minute things get hot.

    • @arinconc
      @arinconc 3 роки тому +25

      If you listen to the bad guys, the good guys will lose. It is unfair!

    • @sallyskiera4756
      @sallyskiera4756 3 роки тому +33

      Very sad that his personal opinion caused him and the band such intolerant reaction from both far left and far right. Let’s all just enjoy the music - he isn’t running for gov’t office!

    • @MoonshineNL
      @MoonshineNL 3 роки тому +10

      I'm absolutely devastated.

    • @mattstarf4294
      @mattstarf4294 3 роки тому +17

      I'm waiting for the rest of band to leave 😂

  • @tricatfilms6136
    @tricatfilms6136 Рік тому +277

    I will NEVER support this band again, but I will support Winston Marshall forever.

    • @AJ-hi9fd
      @AJ-hi9fd 7 місяців тому +19

      I didn’t know who he was, now I’m one of his fans and followers.

    • @brandonjones2856
      @brandonjones2856 7 місяців тому +6

      You and me both!! Haven’t listened to that Band since

    • @danielmeuler2877
      @danielmeuler2877 7 місяців тому +19

      He gave Fancy Nancy Pelosi the business. I will be a fan of Marshall's until the day I die.

    • @Dr.Caligari-scabinet
      @Dr.Caligari-scabinet 7 місяців тому

      @@danielmeuler2877same

    • @waz3128
      @waz3128 6 місяців тому +3

      The only song I know from Mumford and Sons is the one that has drunk yobs in a pub shouting ''I really fked it up this time''. Can't stand it, Its like the modern day ''who the fk is Alice'?'. But I am a fan of Winston Marshall

  • @MarionQuintero767
    @MarionQuintero767 7 місяців тому +133

    Winston, don’t regret what happened. Nothing is coincidental or an accident. There’s ALWAYS a purpose. You were unwittingly guided towards yours.

    • @lyndkent-cl2oe
      @lyndkent-cl2oe 4 місяці тому +1

      Nicely worded!....Integrity is key in one's learning off owns truth.

  • @alex-E7WHU
    @alex-E7WHU 7 місяців тому +72

    2024 update. Winston has just destroyed Nancy pelosi at the Oxford union debate. Top bloke.👍

    • @rustybeltway2373
      @rustybeltway2373 7 місяців тому +6

      That was exciting.
      I didn't know who the gent was until the end.

    • @lynnhubbard844
      @lynnhubbard844 6 місяців тому +1

      impressive! I subscribe to them and clicked on to see the "show" after I had just seen him on a podcast called "Heretics"

    • @sadrera3593
      @sadrera3593 6 місяців тому +6

      It was a beautiful moment indeed!

  • @caitlynrolfe7672
    @caitlynrolfe7672 3 роки тому +1313

    A man lost his career over people being upset that he appreciated a book that they likely never read. Tell me that is not fascist.

    • @TA_Tactics
      @TA_Tactics 3 роки тому +5

      @@TheMan-it7px They're not blind to it.

    • @pacio49
      @pacio49 3 роки тому +58

      Y'all better learn the definition of fascism before you go pontificating about it in public. Fascism is a political movement of authoritarianism. You cannot be anti-authoritarian AND fascist.
      Censorship? Perhaps. Fascist? Not even close. Using that term without understanding it paints you immediately as ignorant.

    • @caitlynrolfe7672
      @caitlynrolfe7672 3 роки тому +19

      @@pacio49 Authoritarianism is defined as enforcement of strict adherence to a certain standard at the expense of another's personal agency. Censorship is correcting misleading, incorrect, or potentially harmful information/data. A group of strongly opinionated people on the internet carrying out an unsubstantiated character assassination because they didn't like what another person had to say and effectively ruining their career - which by the way had no relevance to the statements being critiqued - is not "censorship", its taking away people's freedom to express, even if in a respectful way.
      I am not saying all of this because of I am even a fan of Andy Ngo. I am just astonished at people defending what has taken place. If fascism isn't the correct word to describe a by definition example of authoritarianism, I dont know what to tell ya. You're right, you can't be anti-authoritarianism and fascist. That is what makes my whole point. People cancelling Winston Marshall and calling themselves anti-authoritarian are blinds hypocrites.

    • @mrseph007
      @mrseph007 3 роки тому +5

      @@pacio49 fascism always starts as an ideology before it becomes political.

    • @Zactivist
      @Zactivist 3 роки тому +1

      @@TA_Tactics Exactly. it's purposeful.

  • @sharonsellers6247
    @sharonsellers6247 7 місяців тому +33

    And look where he's at in 2024! This young man was meant for greatness

    • @lynnhubbard844
      @lynnhubbard844 6 місяців тому +5

      right...did you see him speak at the Oxford Union YT channel? WOW, just WOW. He is a powerhouse

  • @timothyobrien8591
    @timothyobrien8591 3 роки тому +163

    “The simple step of a courageous individual is not to take part in the lie”
    -Alexander solzhenitsyn

  • @erikdeca
    @erikdeca 3 роки тому +1067

    The lesson here is to never apologize for doing something that is not wrong.

  • @francesdupreez4498
    @francesdupreez4498 7 місяців тому +41

    Salute you for your own bravery, truthfulnes to yourself and your speech at Oxford rang of integrity!! Write & sing your beautiful music freely!! You have gained the respect of a much larger audience of fans!

    • @lynnhubbard844
      @lynnhubbard844 6 місяців тому +2

      he really made a big impression at Oxford Union...I was blown away!

  • @stephenkane1074
    @stephenkane1074 3 роки тому +575

    It's quite a worrying state of affairs when being a reasonable centrist is dangerous.

  • @danielwarton5343
    @danielwarton5343 4 місяці тому +14

    Winston has only been on my radar for the past few weeks, and in that short time I’ve come to love his content and insight. Leaving the band must have been hard but we’ve all benefited from the outcome

  • @mgee303
    @mgee303 7 місяців тому +23

    Good interview, as someone raised in Portland and very involved in the music scene at one time I appreciate that he spoke up for Andy Ngo. The fact that was publicly persecuted for saying that Andy is brave is scary to me, he is beyond brave and I’m so thankful for him telling the truth about what happened here (and continues to happen). The far left has made this city and it’s residents unrecognizable to me.

    • @lynnhubbard844
      @lynnhubbard844 6 місяців тому +1

      I live in SF...they probably all came up there from here!?

    • @sateshraju7115
      @sateshraju7115 Місяць тому

      Left wing fascism is real.

    • @MercNov2011
      @MercNov2011 Місяць тому

      And they call him a fascist when they are the fascists shutting him down for having a different opinion!

  • @gabrielvalentin3106
    @gabrielvalentin3106 3 роки тому +250

    So much grief for a young man who read a freaking book and has an opinion.

    • @unrepentantoffender188
      @unrepentantoffender188 3 роки тому +9

      Right?
      Today's sensitive social climate has got to stop.

    • @misssummersalt
      @misssummersalt 11 місяців тому

      Yeah makes you wonder if there isn't more to the story that he's wanting to cover up to save face...

    • @murphykenji
      @murphykenji 6 місяців тому +1

      The most dangerous thing of all. 😏

    • @BendyLilZebraBabe
      @BendyLilZebraBabe 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@misssummersalt What insane thinking went into formulating that ignorantly defamatory comment?

    • @qppmike
      @qppmike 6 місяців тому

      They don't want people to learn the truth. If they keep us working just to scrape by, we won't have the time to learn the truth

  • @andreas956
    @andreas956 3 роки тому +155

    I used to be a fan of Mumford and sons. Now I'm a fan of you. I love honest and brave people with integrity.

    • @ritar.7836
      @ritar.7836 7 місяців тому +1

      This is a moving comment. It tou he's you to the core.

  • @user-ly1vx2do4s
    @user-ly1vx2do4s 3 роки тому +837

    The Band should have stood by you in solidarity and not let you quit, this is what friends do. Submission never works, living in a world where you lose your career for reading a book and showing support for an author is not acceptable.

    • @BlueInk912
      @BlueInk912 3 роки тому +24

      This is so maddeningly sad. Devasting that the entire band is attacked. They are a music band not a Book club(sic!)!!!! Not only does he read(which is more than most Gates?.. Big brother wannabees. One name /few words skimmed over and they go for jugular.) he reads critically/analytically.. As he said he did not agree with somethings the things in book. He gave credit to Ngo bravery to write what a lot of people think /watching on sidelines. As friends they ache for oneanother i am sure but lets be pragmatic. We know going to 'war' you loose. May they prosper. Best wishes fm🇿🇦ZA

    • @bobjob66
      @bobjob66 3 роки тому +9

      You don't know how they took it...I'm sire they weren't like "Ok Win..cool." and shut the door in his face....I'm sure it was the last resort....and Winston was fervent in his decision.

    • @beetalius
      @beetalius 3 роки тому +28

      I’m more a fan of his and less of theirs

    • @JoJo-vg8dz
      @JoJo-vg8dz 3 роки тому +17

      The woke mob is very aggressive.
      They practice systematic harassment.

    • @iMutA123
      @iMutA123 3 роки тому +2

      I know what you mean… I said the same thing he said about mein kampf, now suddenly I’m a rascist…

  • @Chris-lh7wj
    @Chris-lh7wj 3 роки тому +255

    Getting canceled for reading a book that questions rioting, WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS WORLD! Has everyone lost their damn sanity??

    • @M.Đ-z4u
      @M.Đ-z4u 3 роки тому +11

      left,left.left

    • @CarniBarbie
      @CarniBarbie 9 місяців тому +5

      Nope, just a very loud, small fringe that seems to be winning the battle of discourse. 😩

    • @22lyric
      @22lyric 7 місяців тому +2

      Most "celebrities"!!

    • @owllove992
      @owllove992 7 місяців тому +12

      Yes, people have gone insane and they are now running the asylum, unfortunately.

    • @cjsawinski
      @cjsawinski 7 місяців тому +1

      I have to correct you… they were in fact “mostly peaceful” riots. Get your facts straight before you come to the comment section!

  • @thomaspaccione7214
    @thomaspaccione7214 3 роки тому +290

    Winston, I'm sorry things turned out the way they did. The 4 of you together were really something special. I started playing the Banjo because of you, and I love it. Thanks for inspiring me.

  • @Fenristhegreat
    @Fenristhegreat 3 роки тому +482

    Oh, he seems like a well meaning, honest man. I hope he can get his career back on track, he shouldn't have to suffer for his honesty.

    • @chadjohns6955
      @chadjohns6955 3 роки тому +15

      @영노 I would buy it just on principle

    • @bighands69
      @bighands69 3 роки тому +7

      The west is a truly damaged place. It is unlikely that he will get his career back at this point which is a very sad thing to say.
      He is not the first that the activists will destroy and not the last. I cannot see any way out of this sort of culture.

    • @cindland
      @cindland 3 роки тому +19

      He wasn’t trying to be POLITICAL, he was merely sharing an intellectual activity to spend his time during the lockdowns! 🤯

    • @cindland
      @cindland 3 роки тому +1

      @@chadjohns6955 YUPPER

    • @thegoodguy4037
      @thegoodguy4037 3 роки тому +2

      Mumford and sons are my number 1 favorite band, there should be no reason they don't have enough money saved to start their own label and make something new. Brothers stick together

  • @KimWilsonTV
    @KimWilsonTV Рік тому +24

    What a beautiful, intelligent, critically thinking, and compassionate soul. The world is a better place because Winston Marshall is here

  • @82pichon
    @82pichon 3 роки тому +177

    HE SHOULD NEVER HAVE APOLOGISED!!!!

  • @ccrs776
    @ccrs776 6 місяців тому +13

    Wikipedia should be sued by all the people who they have slandered!

    • @Tia-Louisa
      @Tia-Louisa 28 днів тому +2

      Anybody can edit Wikipedia. That's why smart/professional people don't use it.

  • @susanmoore4636
    @susanmoore4636 3 роки тому +388

    Winston, the only thing you did wrong is apologize.

  • @noahk9217
    @noahk9217 3 роки тому +104

    Cancelled by fascists who claim to be "anti-fascist." Never apologize for standing up for what you believe in, and stop worrying about offending people. If someone is offended by your morals, they aren't worth your time.

  • @roywall8169
    @roywall8169 3 роки тому +187

    The apology was a massive mistake.

    • @istvantoth7431
      @istvantoth7431 3 роки тому +12

      The biggest one probably.

    • @roywall8169
      @roywall8169 3 роки тому +9

      @@istvantoth7431 I am heartened that he no longer stands by it.

    • @megofiachra3247
      @megofiachra3247 3 роки тому +9

      Yes, in retrospect, but I respect how he navigated through it all. We’re all learning how to deal with this Leftist Fascism. Hopefully we’re learning from those who have gone before, and the pendulum will start back towards the middle.

    • @cordyone
      @cordyone 3 роки тому +12

      But it wasn't his mistake. It was the band's. They could have stood by him, but they are cowardly boys and left him to it.

    • @roywall8169
      @roywall8169 3 роки тому +8

      @@cordyone If my friends/coworkers treated me like that, I would be looking for new friends/coworkers.

  • @TangoGayle
    @TangoGayle 3 роки тому +563

    The Andy Ngo book that this man spoke of and suffered such horrendous personal consequences is an excellent book. What is happening is the modern form of “book burning”. Something that should not be tolerated in a free society

    • @jeeveekaa5880
      @jeeveekaa5880 3 роки тому +3

      Hi Gayle, what book is he talking about (title and author)?
      I’m really curious.

    • @CrystalJ7
      @CrystalJ7 3 роки тому +24

      @@jeeveekaa5880 'Unmasked' by Andy Ngo - excellent book

    • @jeeveekaa5880
      @jeeveekaa5880 3 роки тому +2

      @@CrystalJ7 thanks Gayle!

    • @CrystalJ7
      @CrystalJ7 3 роки тому

      @@jeeveekaa5880 lol

    • @BlueInk912
      @BlueInk912 3 роки тому +9

      ua-cam.com/video/3hFsr3uwAy8/v-deo.html brett weinstein and heather discussing Ngo book. They have now also been penalised by you tube/wikipage changes so read at your own peril,😢😅. Just good backgroud from locals.

  • @neoepicurean3772
    @neoepicurean3772 3 роки тому +139

    Well the shame is on his band 'mates' that they couldn't stand by him when all he did was put out the most milquetoast of Tweets...

    • @Mickferndalespeedy
      @Mickferndalespeedy 3 роки тому +9

      The pile on was so bad it would have cost them all their careers like its cost him his.

    • @JoJo-vg8dz
      @JoJo-vg8dz 3 роки тому +6

      They knew it would mean the end of their career.
      SJWs control music industry.
      Entertainment industry , Hollywood ...

    • @lulzmoney99
      @lulzmoney99 3 роки тому +7

      ​@@Mickferndalespeedy Not even close. The vast majority of fans don't care about the Tweet. There are probably more people who support what he said than those who don't. The few that don't just scream really loud, but they are few in number. The bad press would've blow over by the next news cycle and the band would've gotten a lot of long-term respect for doing the right thing by ignoring the impotent and hypocritical woke Twitter mob. Look at how many rockstars have survived real controversy, and then look at this tame endorsement of a book calling out radical leftwing lunatics. Michael Jackson was accused of molesting a child FFS, many other celebrities have been to prison for things like RAPE, ASSAULT, etc...etc... and are still loved by the masses. They all weathered the storm. This dude Tweeted about a fkng book. You seriously think this would cost the band members their careers? LMAO. What planet are you living on?

    • @mdg1867
      @mdg1867 3 роки тому +3

      @@Mickferndalespeedy Their fans would have still bought their records and attended their gigs.

    • @detrockcity3
      @detrockcity3 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Mickferndalespeedycowards

  • @nickpapa1721
    @nickpapa1721 3 роки тому +174

    NEVER, EVER, apologise. They come back for more.

    • @DaleBouwman
      @DaleBouwman 7 місяців тому

      Instead say, "Eff U!!!"

  • @scotthart7307
    @scotthart7307 3 роки тому +30

    Mumford and sons should reunite and make NO apologies for their decisions.

  • @willwalker6894
    @willwalker6894 3 роки тому +41

    To think that this guy had built a camaraderie with people that you would think would have a strong bond touring and struggling together to create a lasting legacy, would just throw him to the wolves like that just makes my blood boil. The band Offspring recently did the same thing by kicking out Pete Parada out of the band for not getting the COVID 19 vaccine due to an underlying medical condition. You think you know people you believe are near and dear to you and than they just discard you like a piece of trash.

  • @mumbai3899
    @mumbai3899 7 місяців тому +9

    Another example that social media’s are destroying lives!. He seems was in a big distress at that time because of this stupid time we are living in. I didn’t know until now , after Oxford’s performance. You are great . We loved your band and we love you. Good luck and God bless you.

  • @karenness5588
    @karenness5588 3 роки тому +145

    What a splendid young man! The best part, besides a respectable brain, is his commitment to the truth.

    • @edwardmcmanus
      @edwardmcmanus 3 роки тому +2

      He's both an idiot and a coward.
      Made same mistake falsely libeling Morissey/ Britain First as the media made with him.
      And he apologised!!

    • @Suscida
      @Suscida 3 роки тому +4

      He barely has stood by his conviction at all! He's allowed the bullies to win, and basically came on to this discussion to proclaim it for some reason.

    • @karenness5588
      @karenness5588 3 роки тому +8

      @@edwardmcmanus He's human and needs to be encouraged for the good he has done instead of getting pummeled from both sides.

    • @karenness5588
      @karenness5588 3 роки тому +9

      ​@@Suscida Barely is better than not at all. He did what he could in his circumstances and any step towards the good is better than attacking somebody who has done you personally no wrong and has only done his best.

    • @GreenToast01
      @GreenToast01 Рік тому

      Karen living up to the name

  • @jasonuerkvitz3756
    @jasonuerkvitz3756 3 роки тому +80

    I can't wait for this guy's single work. His playing for _Sigh No More_ and _Babel_ is one of the main reasons I fell in love with those albums. I enjoyed the raw singing of Marcus Mumford and indeed the lyrics of all the songs, but the banjo--regardless of what Winston and the others think of it now--sealed the entire sound they were going for in such a superb and important way. His sublime playing on "Ghosts That We Knew" is simply beautiful. Mumford & Sons is hopelessly lost without this man.
    Winston did nothing wrong and he is certainly welcome to his opinion. The Twitter mob needs to be disbanded and the clout it wields removed. They are far more dangerous and detrimental to a flourishing society of people and their ideas than Andy Ngo's book or any tweets posted by anyone who read it. Such a weird, backwards world we live in.

    • @chandlerscaringia5260
      @chandlerscaringia5260 3 роки тому

      They'll be fine without him.

    • @jasonuerkvitz3756
      @jasonuerkvitz3756 3 роки тому +4

      @@chandlerscaringia5260 But not great.

    • @Theorist9
      @Theorist9 3 роки тому +2

      Hard to continue supporting the others when you realize the loyalty they have to one another is absolutely nonexistent. Really shameful.

  • @pannclan
    @pannclan 3 роки тому +17

    I support you Winston! Thank you for standing!

  • @wiggawithattitude
    @wiggawithattitude 3 роки тому +72

    he shouldnt have left the band, shouldnt have apologised, and the band should have had his back. this is what happens when our men are weak. the cycle perpetuates.

    • @morgierwin6641
      @morgierwin6641 3 роки тому +4

      The fact that they didn't demand he stay in the band says something about them.

    • @coreyaruecker
      @coreyaruecker 3 роки тому +2

      If they weren't willing to defend their friend and band mate, then I think he should have left. He maybe shouldn't have apologized but if you find yourself face to face with the mob, self preservation can take over.

    • @wiggawithattitude
      @wiggawithattitude 3 роки тому

      @@coreyaruecker I think that much is clear from what he says here. He clearly regrets the apology somewhat.

    • @maggietaskila8606
      @maggietaskila8606 7 місяців тому

      If any.one couldn't see that the Antifa was a Fascist group, they would be lying to them selves.

  • @Hartinmouston5158
    @Hartinmouston5158 3 роки тому +78

    It’s not offensive to have questions. We should be able to question everything, including organisations who label themselves as “anti-fascist”. It should be down to others to decide what they are by how they treat other human beings and Antifa are certainly demonstrating vile and hateful intent in their own way.

  • @artj2657
    @artj2657 28 днів тому +2

    It was a shockingly painful experience for you BUT it was meant to be! What you are NOW doing is SO important! LOVE your work and now follow you. You are a man of integrity!👌❤️

  • @JKLoans
    @JKLoans 3 роки тому +56

    I haven't read the book myself, but I found it absurd and obscene that he (and, his bandmates) was suffering such vitriolic abuse for saying he liked the book. I so respect Mr. Marshall and his decision; better to walk away than to have your mouth muzzled.

    • @banditbuddies728
      @banditbuddies728 2 роки тому

      That's just what happens for celebrities or really anyone when they go political. If you are famous, it is well known to stay away from politics otherwise you will usually offend half of the population whatever you say.

  • @29memyselfandi
    @29memyselfandi 3 роки тому +119

    He criticises Morrissey here but he should take a leaf out of Mozzer’s book - Never Apologise.

    • @jenniferditman3788
      @jenniferditman3788 3 роки тому +8

      I didn't see it as criticism. I think he just stated what happened.

    • @wc389
      @wc389 3 роки тому

      What if you do something wrong.

    • @29memyselfandi
      @29memyselfandi 3 роки тому +6

      @@wc389 Apologise if you feel you have something to apologise for. Winston Marshall apologised for liking a book. Ridiculous.

    • @wiseonwords
      @wiseonwords 3 роки тому

      @29memyselfandi - Unfortunately, Morrisey is a sanctimonious woke t.wat.

    • @29memyselfandi
      @29memyselfandi 3 роки тому +3

      @@wiseonwords if you think Morrissey is ‘woke’ in that sanctimonious far left way then you clearly haven’t been paying attention.

  • @samuelfielder
    @samuelfielder 3 роки тому +66

    The problem with Marshall's resolution is that it allows the woke mob to win. His resolution both harms himself and his band. Freddy should have put this point to him.

    • @garylake1676
      @garylake1676 3 роки тому +4

      Marshall has done the right thing, Mumford and Son's did not really back him, what choice did he have to keep true to his own self?

    • @johnclark546
      @johnclark546 3 роки тому +8

      @@garylake1676 But he has lost his career AND his ease of speaking his mind. His timidity now is what is heart breaking. The world can always take everything from you, but when you loose "you" what is left? As Samuel said, the tiny-loud-mob won. 90% of germans were NOT national socialists, but they avoided being singled out and we see what the result of that was. The Russian revolution, the cultural revolution and the McCarthy trials were just a few loud people too.

    • @edwardmcmanus
      @edwardmcmanus 3 роки тому +3

      @@johnclark546 What we should be realising now is that Macarthy was absolutely correct.
      And probably didn't go far enough!!

    • @garylake1676
      @garylake1676 3 роки тому

      @@johnclark546 There are no 'buts', he has lost his old career, does that mean that he is dead? of course not, he is more alive than ever before.
      This is the biblical story of the resurrection, the Phoenix rising from the ashes, the bulb that dies in the winter yet comes back stronger next season.
      You have a lot to learn about rebirth, as the great Martin Luther King said, 'Truth Crushed to Earth Will Rise again'.

    • @Meller571
      @Meller571 3 роки тому

      @@edwardmcmanus that's messed up.

  • @cinemar
    @cinemar 3 роки тому +60

    He's wrong about Morrissey being anti muslim. Morrissey is anti Islamic extremism. The "For Britain" party are not anti muslim either. They're anti open borders and uncontrolled immigration. Just because they want to talk about crime in the islamic community that doesn't make them anti muslim. He's just gone and done the same thing to Morrissey that people did to him. Do some research mate.

    • @hufclufc
      @hufclufc 3 роки тому +3

      Normally, I would stick up for Morrissey, but you have to be very careful with 'For Britain'. They do not engage with all the complexities of Muslim immigration in the UK, and offer no remedies. I would have more sympathy with someone like Maajid Nawaz, who does rail against Islam where it contradicts liberal values, but coming from a Muslim family, is careful not to ostracize Muslim communities.

    • @baronmulberry7847
      @baronmulberry7847 3 роки тому +2

      At this point I don't think Winston is doing research. As he said he's focusing on PR. And attacking critics of the left is an excellent PR tactic and plan.

    • @sophiechandler955
      @sophiechandler955 3 роки тому +1

      @@hufclufc oh you mean he’s allowed to criticise Islam because he comes from a Muslim family. Pathetic apologist!

    • @hufclufc
      @hufclufc 3 роки тому

      @@sophiechandler955 Nope. I meant he gives the issue some serious thought, unlike For Britain, who basically want to repatriate them all. These ideas are extremely dangerous. Fortunately. For Britain are tiny, and will never enter the mainstream. I guess you are young and naive, and have not thought any of this through. As Winston says, One must be extremely careful about the language you use. I have heard some of the language used by For Britain and it is toxic. I don't think Morrissey has researched it properly. I think he lives in a quaint bygone world where England was basically white. This is not the case anymore, and never will be again. I think Majid's approach is the most pragmatic because one is always playing the ball and not the person.

    • @apebass2215
      @apebass2215 3 роки тому +1

      @David Lea don't project your own naivety onto others. Criticising someone's choice of language rather than their ideas is a foolish attempt at coercing them into self-censorship.

  • @derosa1989
    @derosa1989 3 роки тому +63

    the young children screaming outside, creating a distraction from the background is the perfect metaphor for social media and our times.

    • @jumblestiltskin1365
      @jumblestiltskin1365 3 роки тому +4

      I thought antiFA had turned up to shout him down then i realised they were kids and really the antiFA lot were still snuggled up tightly in their mums basement under the blanket of the progressive flag.

    • @airmark02
      @airmark02 3 роки тому +3

      Thinking the same thing 😉

  • @rogerjamesmusic
    @rogerjamesmusic 3 роки тому +62

    Did he commit a crime? Play a bad solo, or start writing bad music? Then there's nothing to discuss, he should be free to work and express any personal view he wants.

    • @jurisprudence6549
      @jurisprudence6549 3 роки тому

      Well obviously he can but if you're in a 4 piece band and 3 of the band members don't want to play with you anymore then you ain't in a band anymore. No one ever said he can't continue playing music. He just can't be in Mumford anymore. Also, as a disclaimer, this shit is dumb and the fact that he got kicked out of the band is ridiculous. The other mumford guys are god damn pussies.

    • @ijustneedmyself
      @ijustneedmyself 3 роки тому

      He's still free to work and express his personal views, just not with Mumford. Not sure what's so hard to understand about that.

    • @rogerjamesmusic
      @rogerjamesmusic 3 роки тому +1

      @@ijustneedmyself Remember that comment when they take your freedoms.

    • @JohnnyTriplesticks
      @JohnnyTriplesticks 2 роки тому

      @@rogerjamesmusic who is "they" Roger? He was asked to leave his band. I don't think Mumford and Sons will be taking my freedoms, or anyone else's.

    • @rogerjamesmusic
      @rogerjamesmusic 2 роки тому

      @@JohnnyTriplesticks “they” is not in my comment, just a self-evident truth.

  • @jakerittlinger440
    @jakerittlinger440 3 роки тому +53

    There's artistic integrity, and then there is the general kind. This man has both.

  • @corradocrestani1812
    @corradocrestani1812 3 роки тому +25

    He looks so heartbroken… stay strong winston

  • @meanna6495
    @meanna6495 3 роки тому +16

    "I'm against wokeism and against anti-wokeism now. The 'anti-woke mob' is behaving exactly the same as the 'woke mob', I'm more interested in the synthesis of the middle ground ' . I hope in the end most people still are aiming for the middle ground .

    • @DarkAngel2512
      @DarkAngel2512 2 роки тому +1

      This def made me rethink my position. We're doomed if we do what the woke do. I know it's a ploy to control people. But that's what we're supposed to be against. Seen several comments in this thread saying theyre now going to boycott the band for Winston choosing to leave. Why boycott the band who didnt do anything? Especially when Winston left to protect them.

    • @kelrogers8480
      @kelrogers8480 20 днів тому

      There is no middle ground. The Woke left wants anyone outside of their ideological circle silenced, cancelled and removed. They are not interested in listening, and understanding, or reconciliation. There is no 'meeting in the middle'. Either you dont fully understand the issues, or you're just a coward!

  • @juanittaariassuarez3517
    @juanittaariassuarez3517 3 роки тому +53

    Just look at the drummer from System of a Down expressing his staunch support from Trump and his bandmates still being alongside with him despite obviosly disagreeing with him.

    • @mumford_m7684
      @mumford_m7684 3 роки тому +3

      And how long has it been since they've made a record together or did a world tour? Marcus, Ted, and Ben don't have to do anything that might threaten their career, especially if they don't agree with what Win is endorsing. Win was in a band of four, so anything he does or says could very much affect his bandmates. So he did the right thing distancing himself from them. Marcus sure as hell did not deserve the storm of people that came after him because of something Winston said or did, especially when his and Win's politics do not align and they do not align.

    • @littlered77
      @littlered77 3 роки тому +6

      @@mumford_m7684 So we should work only with people who share all our thoughts and opinions? My opinion of the other band members would be infinitely higher had they opening supported their friend and his right to have an opinion.

    • @jujitsuman9934
      @jujitsuman9934 3 роки тому +5

      @@mumford_m7684 It's about being punished for what you believe, not about record sales. She has a point when she says his band pulled the plug on him. They should have stood by him instead of being lil whinny babies. He gave someone credit for a book, BIG DEAL.

    • @hulkhogan4218
      @hulkhogan4218 3 роки тому +4

      @@jujitsuman9934 yeah, not very rock n roll! I think if he was 10 years older he and his band mates probably wouldn't have given a toss. However, the younger generations seem more afraid of the opinion of their counterparts and bow down to the braying mob. I wish him luck though. Good life lesson for him and it's more likely he'll read volume 2 😂

    • @stacyejohnson6618
      @stacyejohnson6618 Місяць тому

      You can LITERALLY go to jail for a long time for a simple tweet in England. This is more than just losing fans or not selling tickets.
      It's "V for Vendetta" come to fruition

  • @maryannturton9830
    @maryannturton9830 3 роки тому +40

    My best memory of Winston is the video of Mumford performing with Baaba Maal on the song,There Will Be Time,when he puts his hands up in the air victoriously because he knows that song,on that night,with these two bands,was a literal masterpiece! Please don't ever stop playing Winston!🎼👊

    • @joycarter8647
      @joycarter8647 3 роки тому

      Agree, that song and the whole album is magic!

  • @brittanydeere5070
    @brittanydeere5070 3 роки тому +97

    This breaks my heart that we lost the Extreme talent of a gifted musician and possible band because of a voiced opinion. We should embrace difference and viewpoints and learn from one another, not destroy someone because we don’t agree. Mumford and Sons is my favorite band. Sad. Very sad.

    • @AthenaGM
      @AthenaGM 3 роки тому +1

      He hasn't passed away🤦🏻‍♀️

    • @Theorist9
      @Theorist9 3 роки тому

      @@AthenaGM no, but the band has and many of us have spent a lot of time, money and energy on them and to realize they have no loyalty to one another is sad.

    • @KC-jq9kw
      @KC-jq9kw 2 роки тому +1

      @@Theorist9 Yes, exactly. This totally ruined all of my respect and opinion of the group and its members. I am done listening to them as well. This is what I will think about listening to them. Just as I do not subscribe to Netflix. I am 50, a veteran, I live on a 1880's homestead in Ohio, I raise most of my own food on pasture and in a garden. I am just old school. Groups with values mean a lot to me.

    • @Theorist9
      @Theorist9 2 роки тому

      @@KC-jq9kw I agree completely and I also totally envy you. Youre living the life Im currently striving to get. Im in the city...desert city, at that. But Im so ready to get my dogs out on some acreage and start a garden, have a well, get some more animals and stop working so much. Seems like its a very popular thing to do these days, as Ive recently put numerous offers on vacant land only to have them go under contract right before. But I'll just keep trying until I make it happen! Sadly, I just wont be listening to Mumford as Im gardening lol. Ive switched from Mumford to a lot of The Head and the Heart, Vance Joy and Coldplay. (Also thank you for your service.)

    • @DarkAngel2512
      @DarkAngel2512 2 роки тому

      @@Theorist9 apparently the band didnt want him to leave. We shouldnt condemn them before we know their stance.

  • @Kellyjellycones78
    @Kellyjellycones78 3 роки тому +70

    A sign of our times, people being bullied into submission.
    That apologising was a massive mistake in my view!
    You did nothing wrong at all!
    The fascists are the one's who shut down opinions/ idea's.

    • @StefanNorberg
      @StefanNorberg 3 роки тому +1

      Trial by mob is the new mode of operation

  • @janew2108
    @janew2108 3 роки тому +69

    I hope this gentleman knows that once you’re on their list, you don’t ever get off it. He also apologized, which is like blood in the water for them. They see it as abhorrent weakness. I wish him the best. Their end goal is self censorship in an attempt to avoid harm.

    • @AcornRiot
      @AcornRiot 3 роки тому

      Loosen that right wing conspiracy tinfoil hat lmao

    • @janew2108
      @janew2108 3 роки тому +7

      @@AcornRiot It’s clearly not a majority of any group, but to suggest that there isn’t a minority online who become obsessive, cruel, and fixated is odd.

    • @bighands69
      @bighands69 3 роки тому +7

      @@AcornRiot
      He just got his career destroyed and you think it is a conspiracy theory. We are doomed because most people have your world view.

    • @makara80
      @makara80 3 роки тому +4

      @@AcornRiot Translation: ‘I can’t _credibly_ contend your accurate observations… so I’ll simply pretend it’s all a figment of your imagination instead!’
      One very much from the _Owen Jones’_ book of ‘Refutations for the Argumentatively-Bankrupt’. ;)

    • @chandlerscaringia5260
      @chandlerscaringia5260 3 роки тому

      @@bighands69 I think alot of things but I have never become so full of myself that I have to validate ish I think to people on social media.... I don't feel sorry for him.

  • @tyc00n
    @tyc00n 3 роки тому +22

    if you oppose them they win, if you bend the knee they win, if you ignore them you win

    • @Jurassicparkatmospheres
      @Jurassicparkatmospheres 3 роки тому +4

      If you ignore them, they fester

    • @apebass2215
      @apebass2215 3 роки тому +4

      “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”

    • @bighands69
      @bighands69 3 роки тому +1

      He cannot ignore them. The record label, distributors, media, band and everything else is under attack.
      Once that starts he is finished. His career is over and he has not yet realized it.

    • @makara80
      @makara80 3 роки тому

      It’s long been speculated that if you can hold out for roughly _72 hours_ after having hypothetically incurred the wrath of the far left, you’ll be fine. Indeed, the mob’s diminutive attention span ensures that most will move onto another target to feign outrage over by then.
      Alas though in these social media-addicted times tragically few can maintain ‘silent running’ online for that long. Worse, they’re ruinously oblivious to the fact that the more words they proffer, whether it be an apology or protestation of innocence, the more _ammunition_ those determined to destroy them will be furnished with to weaponise and distort.
      Just shut up!

    • @ronin4713
      @ronin4713 3 місяці тому

      @@bighands69 Three years later, and I have to disagree with your take here... He was not finished, but just getting started. Mumford & Sons was barely a blip on the radar, but now he is a man of integrity with a bullhorn! People are listening to what he has to say.

  • @ynot-wakeywakey7519
    @ynot-wakeywakey7519 3 роки тому +51

    In my point of view, there is absolutely no need to apologise . Don't let those extremists to bully you.

  • @edwardmcmanus
    @edwardmcmanus 3 роки тому +25

    His first mistake was apologising.

  • @sgameirojr
    @sgameirojr 3 роки тому +52

    Main lesson: never bow down to real fascists and mob rule. Leaving the band to protect his friends was commendable.
    Would love to see him talk to Russel Brand since both are from artistic backgrounds.

  • @johnvogt5847
    @johnvogt5847 6 місяців тому +3

    A fine, thoughtful young man, it's a shame he had to learn that no good deed goes unpunished.

  • @darrylbannon2727
    @darrylbannon2727 3 роки тому +38

    Says a lot about these other musicians being pack bullies. Happy to castigate people without actually knowing the content of the book.

    • @loz6441
      @loz6441 3 роки тому +2

      Exactly - whether we see it as 'mere' virtue signalling or as a witch hunt, they're happy to pile in and attack fellow artists at the slightest accusation of unclean thoughts, especially 'right-wing', without letting facts get in the way.

    • @roms_hut3639
      @roms_hut3639 2 роки тому

      The majority of the music and acting world and especially as the man says- the gatekeepers are always leaning left. Any thoughts expressed that are too far out of their own minds, they use their power to pursue and be the hangman. It's mafia mentality..always protected by pretending to be the "good guys" on their moral high horses deciding what opinions to have and not. Shameful breed, sadly theyre everywhere in that world...

  • @jwscheuerman
    @jwscheuerman 3 роки тому +50

    Sad that the band accepted his resignation

    • @SunnyInJersey
      @SunnyInJersey 3 роки тому +2

      I bet none of these so called WOKE people who attacked him on social media ever went to their concerts or bought their albums. I know I date myself by using the word albums. My point is the left don't spend any money but are the first to scream ban that product and the companies go into a frenzy to placate them. .

    • @julierogers1155
      @julierogers1155 3 роки тому +2

      @@SunnyInJersey "The left don't spend any money" is so INACCURATE as to be laughable.

    • @ende3988
      @ende3988 3 роки тому

      @@SunnyInJersey first you hardly date yourself by talking about albums; those things still exist. second, overall, democrats tend to earn more than conservatives (or the left more than the right) except for the richest (>10 billion networth), who tend to be right; it seems unlikely that left individuals wouldn't be spending money. such a weird line of thought. also worth noting that individuals from the left and the right both boycott things; if you're REALLY sitting there and thinking only one side is screaming, i guess you're too used to screaming with the other that it hardly registers anymore.

    • @kelrogers8480
      @kelrogers8480 20 днів тому

      ​What are you even saying? Garbled and largely irrelevant!

  • @fraserbailey6347
    @fraserbailey6347 3 роки тому +14

    If Winston was 'surprised' by the reaction he was very naive. Nobody is allowed to criticise those who riot, loot and burn US cities. Surely he should have known that. And this is not a 'niche' issue. It is one of the central issues of our time.

    • @bighands69
      @bighands69 3 роки тому +2

      It is not that naive. Most people have no real idea what is going on. If they did Democrats would not have won the US elections, labour would have completely collapsed and the EU would have collapsed.
      People simply have no idea.

    • @DarkAngel2512
      @DarkAngel2512 2 роки тому +1

      He did explain he wasnt aware of all this stuff.

  • @singing894
    @singing894 3 роки тому +121

    Winston: "I'd much rather be in a rock'n'roll band"
    Me: "So THAT'S why you left Mumford & Sons"

  • @triciavonne3631
    @triciavonne3631 3 роки тому +12

    Mumford and Sons is one of my favorite bands. Why we have to create this type of culture is beyond me. Think what you think, believe what you believe, or don't...A great song could have come of all this (and still may) and they could have done it together. Now we have Winston Marshall...an up and coming artist alone. Still a sad and unnecessary situation, no matter how you look at it.

    • @Jellybellycat
      @Jellybellycat 6 місяців тому

      Happens every day to artists who don’t bow to liberal ideologies.

  • @elenamanley5509
    @elenamanley5509 6 місяців тому +3

    Love the band but the band without him is not worth listening to. I get the feeling that due to his immense integrity, he will not speak ill of his bandmates. I will continue to listen to the old stuff and whatever Winston produces.

    • @lynnhubbard844
      @lynnhubbard844 6 місяців тому +1

      did you see him speak at the Oxford Union? It's on YT---really blows you away!!!!

    • @elenamanley5509
      @elenamanley5509 6 місяців тому

      @@lynnhubbard844 - I watched it and I have to admit, I didn't recognize him at first and I was thoroughly impressed with the way he carried himself and how he was armed with the facts but was not disrespectful to Pelosi bc he's a gentleman. Then I learned it was Winston and felt that I did not need another reason to admire him so much but there you go. Hats off to him. I'm glad he is not in the group. A multi-talented man like him needs to stand out.

  • @angelhelen84
    @angelhelen84 3 роки тому +14

    I thought about this the other day. Firstly, his band should have stuck up for him and secondly, he shouldn't have apologised. This was the most ridiculous thing I had heard in a long time and when you let these extremists control the public, including those in bands, you are letting them win. I don't give in to children when they kick and scream and want their way, in fact, I do the opposite.

    • @hankfrance4559
      @hankfrance4559 3 роки тому

      Literally you don’t know what he went through and what that felt like

    • @jaimem4973
      @jaimem4973 3 роки тому

      @@hankfrance4559 He needs to man up. The West has become too feminised. It’s why it’s dying and becoming Islamised and devoured by China

    • @hankfrance4559
      @hankfrance4559 3 роки тому

      @@jaimem4973 yes. I am terrified for the future. Woe is our society.

  • @MsChitterchat
    @MsChitterchat 3 роки тому +29

    He’s waking up. Great to see.

  • @Amanda.StanofPodcasts
    @Amanda.StanofPodcasts 3 роки тому +27

    Have been a fan since the beginning and it’s really disappointing to see the band be so hypocritical to the words they’ve sung all these years. Winston, we appreciate your honesty.

    • @DarkAngel2512
      @DarkAngel2512 2 роки тому

      How were the band hypocritical? Did they ask Winston to leave?

    • @roms_hut3639
      @roms_hut3639 2 роки тому

      The guy takes the consequences for his brothers. It was his action, and he takes full responsibility to protect them. He is doing what a true friend or brother does. Now maybe the band could've been stronger and held ground with him. Hypocrits though? No.

  • @abispanner3957
    @abispanner3957 3 роки тому +24

    I'm glad he felt his apology was actually unhelpful, he seems like a guy with integrity and just trying to do the right thing 👍

  • @NickLitten
    @NickLitten 3 роки тому +20

    As an Englishman, I'm not offended by anything he said... but I am terribly offended by his lack of shirt ironing skills.

    • @Becca159
      @Becca159 3 роки тому

      Even after all he did to "iron things out"? (and "take the heat") It's not a Blackshirt anyway.

    • @navymed3
      @navymed3 3 роки тому +2

      And the screeching children in the background

    • @alannorman4097
      @alannorman4097 3 роки тому

      You are right. This man deserved all he got just for the wrong reasons!

  • @anonony9081
    @anonony9081 3 роки тому +23

    Anyone who censors is just admitting their position is too weak to withstand argument

  • @baronmulberry7847
    @baronmulberry7847 3 роки тому +16

    So.... he's angry at those who disliked his apology percieving it as capitulation, even though he also now dislikes his apology and views it as a capitulation.
    Am I the only one who finds that a tad confusing????
    Regardless, as to Winston's point on gatekeepers he's got it in one.

    • @bighands69
      @bighands69 3 роки тому +4

      He clearly is confused himself. His world has been ripped apart. It is very clear how damaged the western world is.

    • @loz6441
      @loz6441 3 роки тому

      I can only guess that he meant he doesn't like some of the anti-wokists who _attacked_ him over his apology, not those who just pointed out that it was a mistake.

    • @jasonuerkvitz3756
      @jasonuerkvitz3756 3 роки тому +2

      This whole thing is so damned alien and weird he's not sure how he should respond to the deconstructionists' nightmarish mayhem. These people are unhinged and have a tenuous grasp of their own realities and as such can never be appeased. They are filled with so much self-loathing they lash out at everyone around them and take the greatest pleasure going after celebrities. Its what chaotic iconoclasts do. It allows for them to feel virtuous for a split second and forget what total failures they are. Since this feeling is so fleeting, they ravenously scour Twitter for more prey to abate their feelings of uselessness for another handful of seconds.

  • @maryannturton9830
    @maryannturton9830 3 роки тому +16

    I think everyone lost their bloody minds in 2020.Everybody quarantined,devouring one another over politics,race,and Covid.Ugh...😱We all need to give one another a little space and grace!👊

    • @christopherthomas7980
      @christopherthomas7980 3 роки тому +3

      No, this has been building for awhile. We let the extremist leftists in many camps take control of everything. It's not about creating for them but destroying

    • @Jellybellycat
      @Jellybellycat 6 місяців тому

      Nope. Started long before that. When Trump took office people finally felt like they could speak openly against psychotic leftism for the first time.

  • @joanr3189
    @joanr3189 10 місяців тому +4

    Portland and Seattle? Say no more….it is now code for woke.

  • @Kevin12321
    @Kevin12321 3 роки тому +6

    I’ve been following Mumford and sons for a while now. I know their fan base is not happy about this. They love their “winnie” This dudes so much fun on stage. I live in the states and I don’t understand those cities. I can only imagine what people from across the pond are thinking about this lol. Crazy shit. Hope he comes back

  • @Evie3331
    @Evie3331 3 роки тому +7

    You would have still shared it because it is the right thing to do, make others aware. The ironic thing is their reaction to you sharing it has exposed the issue even more. Well done young man ✌️

  • @rigilchrist
    @rigilchrist 3 роки тому +40

    I was a supporter of Mumford & Sons. I went to their "Gentleman of the Road" gigs and saw them perform live on three gigs. I thought them a wholesome bunch of guys, a family. They are now fatally wounded by this, by caving-in to a twitter mob and not coming together to support their bandmate. In this upside-down world where there is an attempt to redefine words: "silence is violence"; "words are violence" - but actual violence is not, we find Antifa which is (factually) a Marxist, violent mob. That is exactly what it is. Mistaking the ignorant tweets of activists for actual public opinion is a mistake you make only once. I'm done with Mumford and Sons over this - they chose money (bookings) ahead of integrity - and their family. Shame on them.

    • @douglasbower7970
      @douglasbower7970 3 роки тому +3

      Well said

    • @Theorist9
      @Theorist9 3 роки тому +1

      Agree

    • @DarkAngel2512
      @DarkAngel2512 2 роки тому +2

      So Winston left to protect the band, they apparently didnt want him to leave, and you will do what the woke do and punish them anyway. Did you watch this full interview as this is exactly what Winston spoke against. He said he saw the anti-woke doing what the woke do. How are we any better if we become like them? Where will we end up if we normalise their behaviour by practicing it ourselves?

    • @roms_hut3639
      @roms_hut3639 2 роки тому

      Show mercy and support the band. It's what Winston wants.

  • @achapotachadabapot
    @achapotachadabapot 3 роки тому +12

    My take on the situation.
    1. Winston was never wrong, his stance on extremism, be it of either side, was morally sound.
    2. The band would have stayed by him, but he chose to leave seeing the toxic wake fucks that would attack him and thus dragging the band with him. He wanted to protect his band.
    3. His band mates should have stayed by him no matter what. What they are doing now is ironic with the songs they made.
    Its disappointing, I expected more from the band, I didn't think their integrity would be that fragile.
    "Little Lion Men".

  • @jamesgibbons313
    @jamesgibbons313 3 роки тому +6

    He's young and he has learned an important lesson. It will serve him well in the future. Forget it, and move forward.

  • @Freefolkcreate
    @Freefolkcreate 9 місяців тому +2

    Former KGB agent Yuri Bezmenov - "The highest art of warfare is not to fight at all but to subvert anything of value in the country of your enemy until such time that the PERCEPTION OF REALITY of your enemy is screwed up to such an extent that he does not perceive you as an enemy."

  • @evacope1718
    @evacope1718 3 роки тому +23

    The dude looks like he's been in an abusive manipulative relationship... goes to show how damaging this whole culture is

    • @rlhernandez1
      @rlhernandez1 3 роки тому +5

      Looks like it and acts like it. He’s walking on eggshells the whole time.

    • @bighands69
      @bighands69 3 роки тому +1

      He has not yet realized that his career is over. Maybe once he gets over this period and his mental health is in a better place he will realize.

  • @Killian_Courtney
    @Killian_Courtney 2 роки тому +1

    The lesson here is don't fucking tweet because the public has every right to not want to buy your shit anymore. That's the other side of capitalism. There is no such thing as cancelation, just the downside of capitalism....the right to choose what we will put up with or like.

  • @roywall8169
    @roywall8169 3 роки тому +28

    Oh my, some extremists called him a fascist. He needs to wear that as a badge of honor.

  • @lancehaseltine494
    @lancehaseltine494 28 днів тому

    I recently viewed your beautiful conversation with Batya Ungar-Sargon here on YT. Your great intellect, insight, and skill prompted me to learn more about you. God bless you. You’re a great soul. I wish you well, and look forward to listening to you more in the future.

  • @tcb198
    @tcb198 3 роки тому +21

    And says more about the band where was their allegiance and support, but then most bands have been silent over the last year during so called pandemic

    • @candacescavone7329
      @candacescavone7329 3 роки тому

      Was his band mates also the reason he left? If that is true, it would be heartbreaking to realize they really aren't your mates.

    • @Rambleon444
      @Rambleon444 3 роки тому +1

      And MF&sons big hit is ironically a song called "I will wait" for you... with lyrics like...
      Now I'll be bold
      As well as strong
      And use my head alongside my heart
      So take my flesh
      And fix my eyes
      A tethered mind free from the lies

  • @Jjchg
    @Jjchg 7 місяців тому +1

    Frankly, I’ve never heard a Mumford song but I have listened to a couple of your videos Winston. I think you are a winner young man.

  • @troyanstone65
    @troyanstone65 3 роки тому +12

    Hopefully he'll form a new band with Pete and a few others who were cast aside by their bandmates. Winston, turn this into a stand up moment and a step into your new creative ethical successful future. Wish you well!

  • @mike2510
    @mike2510 3 роки тому +17

    Seems like a thoughtful, sensitive, reasonable man. I wish him all the best. I really dislike cancel culture. Even if people make mistakes, let them have a path to redemption. His original tweet shouldn’t have drummed up this type of controversy.

    • @edwardmcmanus
      @edwardmcmanus 3 роки тому +1

      He's a puss5y man!!
      Too too soft!
      He should have stood up for himself and NEVER apologised!!

    • @sophiaatn5339
      @sophiaatn5339 3 роки тому

      Indeed people should have a path to redemption so what do you think about Shamima Begum?

    • @edwardmcmanus
      @edwardmcmanus 3 роки тому

      @@sophiaatn5339 If she TRULY she's the awful choices she made, let her back into UK.
      . And have her tell her story for the rest of her days to dissuade others from making same mistakes.

    • @sophiaatn5339
      @sophiaatn5339 3 роки тому

      @@edwardmcmanus excellent

  • @BeFreeHugATree
    @BeFreeHugATree 3 роки тому +22

    Aw I wish he hadn't apologized... although I understand where he's coming from. Antifa seems to be an insidious form of fascism in extreme denial. Perfect example of the Jungian concept of the Shadow at work there. 👀

  • @lufe8773
    @lufe8773 6 місяців тому +1

    Was George Orwell who said • ‘In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act’

  • @martinjaramillo2429
    @martinjaramillo2429 3 роки тому +4

    I wish this man the best, his mom and dad have been his support and obviously many fans. He will bounce back I am positive.

  • @rayganmessick8378
    @rayganmessick8378 3 роки тому +2

    He worked just as hard for the band too. It’s so sad that some people cannot speak their mind nowadays without potentially losing their career and friends. And it seems really one sided. I love Mumford and Sons. I am glad they still support him. I hope to see them all back together someday.

  • @AngelWest58
    @AngelWest58 6 місяців тому +1

    Narcissists love when they get someone to apologize for something they have never done.

  • @JosephStealin
    @JosephStealin 3 роки тому +13

    I just shouted at my kids to behave then realised that my kids are at school.

  • @JordanEBlunt
    @JordanEBlunt 2 роки тому +2

    After hearing this I might have a problem with Mumford and Sons but it isn't because of Winston Marshall or his beliefs.

  • @MoonshineNL
    @MoonshineNL 3 роки тому +4

    I don't agree with Pearl Jam's politics but I can still listen and appreciate their music without berating them. Why do we have to insert politics or ideology into everything?

  • @volumemacgillicutty3956
    @volumemacgillicutty3956 6 місяців тому +1

    Winston is doing something waaaaay more important than playing in a cheesy band….i never liked Mumford & sons…but now that hes quit that band, and i am actually aware of who Winston is…i am fan….

  • @gameoverwehaveeverypixelco1258
    @gameoverwehaveeverypixelco1258 3 роки тому +10

    Andy Ngo isn't far right, he's just a journalist.

    • @zsht
      @zsht 3 роки тому

      A very poor journalist with a far right fetish

    • @zsht
      @zsht 3 роки тому

      @@TheMan-it7px haha poor response, you can do better than that

    • @zsht
      @zsht 3 роки тому

      @@TheMan-it7px what a strange metric you have chosen. Hitler has outsold me too.

    • @zsht
      @zsht 3 роки тому

      @@TheMan-it7px book sales don't make you a good journalist haha. They just make you a populist. Many terrible books, movies, albums have sold very well. If 'sales' is the metric you use to define talent, skill, or artistry, than you are truly lost.

    • @zsht
      @zsht 3 роки тому

      @@TheMan-it7px at last, you're using your brain. However, since his book was published, many of his claims have been disputed, de-bunked, and video footage was also released of him cordially hanging out with the violent far-right group 'Patriot Prayer', as they discussed the tactics and weaponry they would imminently employ on counter-protestors. Of course, Ngo chose to omit this from his book (as any decent journalist would hahaha). Ngo also denies that Patriot Prayer protects him at protests in exchange for positive coverage, although audio was also leaked that confirmed this negotiation. He's also been fired from right-wing employers for falsities and enflaming hatred. Ngo started off as a right-wing provocateur, then was bullied by antifa, then was picked up by the hard-right as a means to further their goals. If you genuinely think his has any actual journalistic integrity... do some more research please.

  • @Maxxdiff14
    @Maxxdiff14 7 місяців тому +1

    Don’t apologize to those people. The proper response is the one finger salute.

  • @stuartwood5448
    @stuartwood5448 3 роки тому +4

    It shows that public apologies are just to save face - he isn’t sorry at all- and rightly so

    • @Chalk89
      @Chalk89 3 роки тому

      I'm always disappointed when these individuals apologize despite not being apologetic in the least. The more people just say, 'I'm sorry you were offended,' or something of the sort, the less likely 'cancel culture' is to exist.

  • @MHK-yu2tf
    @MHK-yu2tf 3 роки тому +8

    To summarise, the far left mob has won this battle. A) He apologised. B) He feels he offended a lot of people. C) He will not disclose his views/opinions in the future. So sad that he succumbed to pressure. Certainly, not a man of steel. Have your views and stand by them, people!

    • @Dark.Star.Alchemy
      @Dark.Star.Alchemy 3 роки тому +3

      He did not say that he will not share his views in the future, he said he will be careful to be sure he says exactly what he believes to be the truth.

  • @annethomsen7648
    @annethomsen7648 3 роки тому +1

    Wish you would come back. . love the four of you in mumford and sons

  • @tcb198
    @tcb198 3 роки тому +7

    Why oh why did he apologise, more respect if had not

  • @doloresl.2150
    @doloresl.2150 21 день тому

    I'm glad you have a voice and a very smart one. Thank you for the interviews you do and the truth you bring.