What most people and even keto specialists does not realize is that most of people on keto are ex carbholics. As for alcoholic there is no such thing as "reintroducing" alcohol in any quantity to remain an EX alcoholic, same goes with carbs. 6 years keto, more than 2.5 of that carnivore, staying for life. Never ever will let my old addiction to come back to my life, I value too much my life now that I know. If somebody does not have addiction problem, then I guess is much lesser problem.
I was a carbaholic as you say. And as knowing myself, in the last 5 years, I limited myself to introducing veggies and no other carbs. No sugars, no fruits. As someone with an eating disorder that nearly binged and purged daily , if not more (and for over a decade), I understand beyond what you mean. But as I’ve healed, I occasionally eat a piece of broccoli or asparagus here or there. Not all plants are created equal. So I do realize but I always push for root cause healing. There is a difference between I CHOOSE to eat only meat. Vs I can ONLY eat meat. One word but two completely different places of healing. Ultimately find what works for you but I will always strive for people to heal-that way events like the pandemic won’t derail people back into carbs.
Strong point along with the fact that they didn't discuss the long term effects of "carb loading" - which is what it sounds like he's doing... to fill in an energy source which will compete with fat . It seems like he thinks his weight training gives him a metabolic pass. Plus, he never mentioned if he limits the amount or just experiments with individual foods to see a response, which in its self is faulty b_c foods that damage gut don't immediately show the damage.... also, is there an actual real benefit nutritionally? The only reason he gives is he "needs more calories: ???? Saladino's reasons for eating fruit and honey don't make sense to me and he sells his supplements while encouraging ppl to embrace and deny their carb addiction....
This is entirely the problem the carnivores lump all carbs into the one bracket So unhealthy refined carb/sugar rich foods such as breads, pastas, cookies, cakes, sweets etc are then used to claim that proven healthy whole plant-foods which actually improve metabolic health and lower risk of diabetes such as fruits, vegetables, nuts etc are suddenly bad for health due to a variety of crazy reasons Having a handful of nuts etc should not stimulate anyone into suddenly binging on cakes, cookies etc. Infact its this extreme carb phobia restriction that causes this binge diet mentality, the raw/vegans/low fat dieters are the same, they are terrified of dietary fats much in the same way the carnivores/keto dieters are terrified of any carb intake and as such they binge on jars of nut butters in one go due to restricting themeslves for months at time of healthy fats and as such this equates too that fats shouldnt be consumed at all if you can't moderate yourself. It's disordered eating as someone who has been here with both extreme low carb and low fat fad diets, both as bad as each other.
Judy you have been putting out a lot of good stuff lately. Thank you ... And it is good to support people who (as we all do) have times of confusion etc. Be well!
I tried carnivore about 6 months ago eating only beef and lot more fat from the beef so I had digestive issues and got bored. The reason for trying carnivore diet is because eating carbs such as fruit, grains, beans, nuts seeds always left me hungry and slowly putting on weight. Some digestive issues too with so much fiber. Now I'm back on carnivore/animal products of "variety" and I feel amazing. I have coffee with 3 tablespoons of heavy cream in the morning about 6 to 7am. 1st meal around 12pm I have 1/2 cup full fat cottage cheese, 2 eggs with 1 tablespoon butter, 2 tablespoons of sharp cheddar cheese and 4 slices of thin chicken or turkey slices. 2nd meal 4pm-5pm I have 6oz Greek yogurt, 4oz of ground beef 85/15 fat. Snacks 3 squares of 85% dark chocolate and pork cracklings (1/2 cup). So I probably have 16 grams of carbs total from the yogurt and dark chocolate. I feel so great. I'm a 62 year old female. The calorie total is about 1200. But feel great at that amount. I didn't need to lose but maybe 5lbs and so I actually lost 5 lbs at first but now staying same weight. Seeing lots more muscle tone with no working out. No digestive issues at all. No hunger at all. Lots of energy. Feel sense of content. So agree I think you have to experiment with what works for you.
No one says as a carnivore you only eat beef. There are many good tasty meats in the world they are just not at your store. You need to go find them. Ditch the coffee and the cottage cheese - that's not food. Don't eat cheese mixed with other foods. Thin chicken and turkey slices are also not food. Greek yoghurt and chocolate are not food. Pork scratchings are oil soaked poison. If you need "treats" look up Fat bombs or eat Avocado.
Great Chat! It's so comforting to hear that everyone is different and each person needs to adapt for THEIR optimal health. Thank you for being the voice of reason.
I can relate to this, I cut out everything except BBB& eggs, then I slowly introduce some carb’s back in& I realized what bloated me & gave me heartburn & what didn’t. I’m down 30 lbs & yes I am meat based, but I do have the octagonal yogurt,potatoes,sourdough bread,fruit & yes pasta… & I’m doing this on a monthly or by monthly basis. I’m sure I was addicted to carbs just like everyone else, but I feel to good to go back to the standard American diet. I refuse to go back! It is so individualized…
Wow, his journey is very similar to mine. Carbs did help but my sleep is so easily disturbed. I’m still tweaking it to this day. I still fast but I now front load as well and I finish eating by 2pm. Really appreciate your thoughtful content.
Mixing carbohydrates with fat rich foods doesn't suddenly equate to inflammation. Look at the mediterranean diet meals which are both predominantly plant-based around whole-foods and contain animal foods also such as oily fatty fish. These meals are highly anti-inflammatory hence why its a diet pattern recommended to address the likes of inflammatory and oxidative stress driven diseases such as cardiovascular disease. It entirely depends on the foods and the composition of these foods, if you pack in highly anti-inflammatory plant-foods rich in polyphenols such as olive oil, nuts, vegetables, fruits and so on. Now mixing the wrong types of carbs/fats can be terrible for metabolic health, but then again most carnivores are eating a blind excessive saturated fat fad diet that is terrible for metabolic health and arguably has one of the worst fatty acid profiles of any fad diet in the world. To the point most of these carnivores end up with off the charts LDL-C and dyslipidemic lipid profiles in the space of months eating mostly just saturated fat, at the expense of other heart healthy fats in the diet.
Thanks, this was a great video with a lot of useful information. ❤️ Another channel, Carnivore BPD, she has found that she has to stay strict beef, salt and water for her mental health, so for some, strict carnivore is necessary.
Well thats never going to last for health or ever be safe is it? Its most likely lacking in numerous nutrients such as vitamin A, probably little to no vitamin C activity, let alone every other nutrient. Just because people find symptomatic relief from extreme dietary restriction doesn't suddenly equate eating such way to be sustainable, safe or healthy.
@@NutritionwithJudy Ridiculous given that such dangerous "diet" is not nutritionally complete to be sustainable for health long-term. Any nutritionist should be trying to work out why such extreme dietary restriction is offering symptomatic relief, is it a dietary trigger, a food allergen, underlying functional GI condition such as dysbiosis/yeast overgrowth/SIBO etc, low stomach acid etc, not trying to validate disordered dangerous fad diets like all beef which is going to be harmful to the clients health in the long-term. A complete recipe for cardiac arrest and scurvy.
@@evidence-basedhealthuk5271 I guess those who have been doing carnivore for 5, 10 and 15+, are not evidence? “The fact that while our basic human biology is the same, at a biochemical level we are all unique. Each of us has key differences in our genetics, microbiome, hormonal and immune systems that impact how we react to food.”
@@seeking.harmony Nobody has been doing carnivore aka 100% meat/animal foods coupled with absolutely zero healthy plant-foods for 10, 15, 20 years etc. These carnivore "gurus" who have popped up overnight to cash in on this fad diet are just as bad as the fake raw vegan diet "gurus" who claim to have lived off just fruit for 30 years and not a single bite of cooked foods. As someone who has grilled quite a few of the main carnivore diet "gurus" and promoters they are all liars about what they eat. I debated one on twitter who claimed he was a 100% strict carnivore for years and within 2 minutes I managed to weedle it out of him that he had ate about half a dozen plant-based cheats in the last 6-12 months alone All liars...
I really like both these folks. Honesty and not crazy dogmatic. They both stick to their strong suits and areas of expertise, and both understand that there is always something they can learn from the other. I enjoyed this interview a lot, especially after starting to re-introduce a few carbs here and there after 4 months of strict carnivore. I believe that for some, addictions to things like carbs and alcohol can be overcome to the point where that person can have a little of whatever they were bound to, after a time of healing. When I was in my 20's I would have to have been classified as a "functioning" alcoholic, but now I only have a drink a few times a year with my wife at a meal or celebration, and it causes me no issues the next day. Addiction is a medical condition, and for me, carnivore seems to have healed my addiction to carbs, and now I honestly find it pretty easy to get back to carnivore eating the next day without issues so far. I honestly just love the food so much it's not a problem to go back to meat only, and leave the sugar and carbs in the cupboard - instead of on my ass.
I’ve noticed that it seems many of the dietary sects are adding back carbs. Esp in the Keto world-some influencers seem to be separating completely from the keto ideology. Things go in waves, but I hope there’s not a return to low fat & fruit/veg heavy diets.
Never. And I will always be meat-only most days and meat-based all days. People will always return to a proper diet for humans. And I will always advocate for the diet that gave me back my life. 🥩♥️
@@NutritionwithJudy today I had a visit with an NP from Yale’s Obesity Clinic who only knew the script she’d been brainwashed with. I told her cutting out fruit reversed my NAFLD. She didn’t accept that even when I told her fructose goes straight to the liver thru the portal vein + the body can make glucose from fructose via the Polyol pathway. Why do providers think schlepps are unable to know how the body works? First & last appt for me.
@@ハク-q6e1j if you do not eat salt (of course sea salt), you will have to drink blood. I have to disappoint western minded people, but not many of them are drinking blood. So, good sea salt will be your second choice.
@@NutritionwithJudy that is so true. It all comes full circle. I’ve tweaked my diet so many times thinking there’s gotta be something better out there than just plain meat but at the end of the day, I always come back to carnivore finding out I feel the best with just meat in terms of cognitive function. lol
@@ハク-q6e1j key questions: What type of salts they were using? No matter of diet, when you reduce or stop using table salts your health goes for better no doubt. There is other side where people on good quality of salts do well, on different diets. It's highly individual, someone needs more, someone needs less, and someone needs none (as long as they drink blood). Don't look at studies. They are or too short, conducted very chaotic and not organized, and also interpreted poorly on top of that. We still talk about carnivore diet here, but no humans were carnivores ever in their lifetimes. Let's respect carnivore movement, by not turning into vegan mindset (excluding, and being afraid of certain food groups). We all have different needs, and are conditioned by different foods by our ancestry genome. We can shift/deviate slightly in our lifetime, but rapid change, and unified eating approach will always be terrible choice to minimum half of population. Eat your meat every day if you can. Find best quality as possible. Add and rotate, or completely eliminate plant foods, and see how that works for you. Repeat, and rotate for few years, and you will be closer to truth, but only to truth that works for you, not necessary for everyone else We all together should stop living in fear about foods, and projecting to others. Also, very important thing to note that many different diets are not touching, is quality of water and breath. Without that you can do whatever, but will never reach your health.
40 grams of salt!?! That’s an insane amount! Seems like you overate too much of the same thing & over salted. Bring a cold steak to work…no problem. I eat 99% Beef…I eat ALL cuts, organs, homemade beef broth, homemade tallow.). I add egg yolks, good salt and good butter, if needed. 3yrs….love it!
I tried everything…and I feel my best with meat, dairy,eggs and fruits ❤ no restrictions whatsoever, I just don’t like veggies too much and if I eat a piece of cake I skip one meal…works awesome for me
Long story short, I have been having loose stool for my entire keto now carnivore journey for the past 4 years if I drink water too soon after eating. 3 weeks ago I made chaffles for my children; they thought they were okay but not excited by them. I ate the chaffles so I would not waste my eggs and cheese. Loose stool completely resolved no matter how much or how soon I drink after eating my meal. Best part I am saving money because I had to cutback on how much food I was eating because I started seeing the scale creep up. Went from 2lbs ground beef, 16 eggs and 60 grams tallow to 1ib ground beef, 12 eggs, 20 oz mozzarella and 30gm tallow currently. Caveat, still adjusting to obtain my new maintenance needs. Not trying to lose or gain weight.
Nice interview. Only critique would be to get rid of "calories" as a measurement of anything. The human body doesn't operate on the Law of Thermodynamics. Calories don't count or matter. What matters is how much of the macronutrients you are eating, IE Fat, Protein, Carbs. As for energy, the liver will produce all the glucose (energy) our bodies could ever need from just about anything.
I had dreadful insomnia for most of my life. Then I went Keto (then Carnivore), but still sleeping badly. I was watching a Low Carb Down Under video one day (Dr Paul Mason) and Magnesium deficiency was mentioned and how the food chain is deficient and the most bio-available supplement was magnesium aspartate. So I started taking it. CHANGED MY LIFE PEOPLE! I sleep so well now.
Taurine and b1 improved my insomnia hot flashes then iodine just provided the best overall healing. So far. Down to d3 k2 and these supplements from so many more before getting carnivore zen. Like 4 months.
The Carnivore fad diet is dangerously low in magnesium and potassium, especially if certain seafoods are not included. This is a complete recipe for disaster for individuals with existing magnesium or potassium deficiencies or existing health problems such as cardiovascular disease, hypertension, mitochondrial disorders, where magnesium/potassium deficiencies may play a role and/or much higher requirements than the RDA. Yet the carnivore fad diet often provides such lowly quantities of the above in comparison to other electrolytes that you'll see numerous carnivores complaining of severe muscle cramping. Carnivore extreme all meat/animal food fad diets that are void of all healthy magnesium/potassium rich whole plant-foods is a good recipe for cardiac arrest. Coupled with the often high sodium nature of carnivore.
@@brothercaleb Vegan is a fad diet that is highly prone to nutritional inadequacy, hence why i'm not a proponent of it and one of its harshest critics. Numerous nutrients are of concern when it comes to vegan diets due to the irrational removal of all animal foods from vitamin B12 to vitamin D to long-chain omega-3 fatty acids to iodine, to zinc, calcium often difficult to obtain to conditional essential nutrients such as taurine. Doesn't mean the extreme opposite is any better, an extreme fad diet of nothing but meat etc is moronic.
Could his inability to digest fat have something to do with how much excess protein he was eating? Those macro ratios seem way off. From what I've learned 60-80 percent of calories from fat seems to be ideal. I'm eating around 350g of fat and 250g of protein per day. This feels optimal. I know everyone is a little different
Another great interview Judy. Thank you. Occasionally I add non-starchy veg for texture & flavor. However, I really love high to moderate fat carnivore on most days. Feel my best 😍
I'm often posting some contrarian comment... not trying to do that here, but at 17:00 ... why isn't Scott eating every 4-6 hours if he's bodybuilding? I tried upping carbs a while back and ultimately didn't like it. I'm growing much better now that I simply eat 4 meals a day, my last one, usually 2 brats, or a brat and a fatty chicken thigh, at 10pm! I sleep like a baby, haven't gained body fat, but have added about 3 pounds over the month of June. Muscles bulging everywhere. lol! ???
my husband got aura ring-----i could not sleep next to him, that disturbed me, i'm cellphone-smog sensitive and that stuff i felt too much, when he returned the ring the customer service what like what? the reason was i couldnt sleep next to him.
I didn't hear discussion re: concerns about adding too much csrbs and the long term negative effects of depending on carbs to fill in as an energy source... so it missed the mark for me.... remember Prof Noakes' experience with high carb loading as a runner lead to diabetes and heart disease down the road... his body building requirements of 5000 kcal/day isn't a long term goal throughout his life... please address this next time... thx
I did eat about 8 to 10 raspberries this year and next month is blackberries but that mostly to be sure they are at their peak ripeness... I obviously planted them before I was carnivore
Scott sounds like another possible candidate for Vitamin A toxicity. (1) He was eating organ meats. (2) He couldn't handle much fat. (3) He felt better with bananas (fructose) and other carbs, just like Saladino and Aurelius. While doing a low-Vitamin A diet that is as close to carnivore as I can get (carbs in my diet are only for symptom mitigation), I have been getting middle-of-the-night gastric distress similar to what Scott described - terrible gurgling, bloating, gas, and wicked diarrhea (moreso early on in the low Vitamin A diet). I also had a lot of fat malabsorption early on in the low Vitamin A diet. Scott, don't give up on carnivore! Shawn Baker, Kevin Stock, Anthony Chaffee, and so many others are proof that you don't need carbs to perform. You should try a low Vitamin A diet and gradually work back towards full carnivore and see how you feel. It can take a long time (years) to get rid of excess Vitamin A, so be patient. I'm at the 2 year mark and have seen a lot of progress (along with a ton of very ugly symptoms that have come and gone).
@@HealthyWithNicole A wide variety of skin, nail, mucus membrane, and nervous system issues, most of which actually started immediately AFTER removing Vitamin A and being on carnivore (essentially beef, caribou, lamb, rabbit, and the occasional chicken or turkey). Lots of dry skin (elbows, toes, bottoms of feet, fingers, scalp, horribly inflamed and receding gums, and the roof of my mouth feels burned and inflamed 24/7). Nails were brittle, then some became slightly ridged longitudinally, beading appeared on some, and mild onycholysis appeared pretty uniformly on all fingernails and to a lesser extent on toenails. Nasal passages/sinuses became extremely dry and irritated, bloody noses were common at times, lots of mucus in stools at times. Dizziness and a few episodes of acute vertigo, nystagmus, incessant muscle twitching/fasciculations and cramping all around the body 24/7, problems with sphincters in the alimentary canal (UES dysfunction and what felt like ileus in the colon where I couldn't pass gas and became constipated), sleep and mental disturbances. The list goes on but that's a pretty good synopsis.
@@HealthyWithNicole Sure, I hope I can save some people from the nightmares of Vitamin A toxicity. I definitely had oxalate toxicity as well, and I know some of those problems can overlap with Vitamin A toxicity, but it seems like my body cleared out oxalates pretty fast based on a period of cloudy urine that ended after maybe a month of cutting 99% of plant foods. I've second guessed my self-diagnosis of Vitamin A toxicity many times, but after 4 years of doing research and consulting with many different practitioners (none of whom actually figured much out), and 2 years of eating virtually zero Vitamin A, it's really the only explanation that can possibly fit the bill. Unfortunate that it takes this long to get it all out even when eating tons of meat every day!
"Plant toxins" this is a scary level of orthorexia that is the equivalent to the rhetoric the raw/vegans come out about cooked foods and animal foods, thinking they need to avoid all healthy foods due to some mystical "toxins" they poorly or don't understand at all. Avoiding all healthy whole plant-foods and binging on nothing but meat/animal foods is a good way to premature mortality and disease promotion, scurvy and other health problems.
It's not the actual fat in ground beef. Rendered fat is the heated fatty residue left behind in the pan. Most people don't do well with heated oil drippings. Instead its better to add butter or suet to your meat after it's cooked.
I get so tired of hearing people miss the point on "rendered" fat. Rendering fat means heating whole chunks of fat and then removing any proteinaceous components. Technically, any fat that is ever heated is at least partially rendered, so you'd have to eat it raw to avoid rendering. The fat in ground beef becomes liquid faster than fat on a steak because the protein matrix has been destroyed by the grinding process. Otherwise, it's essentially the exact same as what's on a steak. It might move from the stomach into the small intestines faster than "intact" fat because there is no proteinaceous matrix to slow its digestion and absorption, and it therefore might cause a faster release of bile into the small intestines. If that bile (or signal to release bile) is what's causing symptoms, that might be the reason why liquid fat appears to cause more problems than "intact" fat that's still contained in a protein matrix when you eat it. If you have Vitamin A toxicity, the act of bile release can cause symptoms to appear quickly, or if your bile ducts are somehow blocked then the attempt to release bile would result in the backflow of bile into the liver and bloodstream, which would cause a different set of symptoms.
@@StraightMobbinAK YUP liquid leave it in the pan put it in the fridge will be hard again ! Sadly so many say things that they do not understand Like the Oh eating 40 grams of salt and tons of organs BUT its the heated/melted fat that is bad throw back in carbs ? Kinda like OH I had issues so eating tons of honey and fruit is the cure
Thank you!!! I have been trying to figure out why I react so badly to ground beef (reflux). What you said about not chewing it properly make total sense. I had been wondering if its chemical make up was different than other cuts.
If someone actually has a problem with ground beef, I really don't think it's from lack of chewing. Your body won't let you comfortably swallow meat that hasn't been sufficiently masticated. It probably has more to do with (1) additional heating of the individual muscle fibers because they are all more exposed to the cooking heat, and (2) the subsequent change of shape of those fibers due to heating. In a steak, the continuous sheet of fibers prevents individual ones from curling when heated and minimizes the heat reaching the inside of the steak, whereas in ground meat most of the fibers are free to curl whichever way they want making them less accessible to enzymes in the intestines.
I was wondering this - if carnivore doesn't work for all. My body really doesn't seem to like it - no period since I started, sleep is terrible, weight gain!!!!! I was starting to think something is wrong with me because I've upped the fat and fatty meat but still its not working for me. I have CRPS (12 years) and an eating disorder (I struggle with sugar big time) so I was really hoping for healing on this but no period and no sleep 3 months in is making me think it's not for me
@@faylinameir I was definitely getting enough calories because I was putting on weight and now a lot of my clothes don't fit. But I definitely don't have PSOS I'm a mum and had numerous scans etc, I've also never missed my period for 3 months like this before either. Paul saladino had problems with his hormones on pure carnivore too, that's why he added back in fruits and honey.
Isn't the idea that weightlifting is better or more "useful" than cardio largely based on the same kind of crap long-term correlational studies that are used to promote plant foods? I don't understand how knowledgeable people keep repeating that mantra when human evolution clearly led to us being specialized for running and long-distance endurance activities. Maybe some of the extinct hominids like Neanderthals were bulkier, but Homo sapiens is lean and lanky because we've had to move more and more to find smaller and smaller prey items. We are runners by nature, not Atlases...just look at the writings of Bernd Heinrich and Tim Noakes. Think about it...why would we need to lift additional weights in order to support our own body? That's like arguing that we need to keep eating carbs in order to maintain insulin output, or that we need to eat plant toxins because they boost our glutathione levels. The body is efficient, if you need to lift heavy things to survive, then the body will put on additional muscle to accomplish that, but doing it prophylactically is a waste of energy, just like eating carbs and plant toxins "prophylactically" is an unnecessary tax on your body.
We are natural sprinters, walkers and weight lifters. Endurance training is not in our nature. Our ancestors didn't do endurance training but they walked from place to place after footsteps of herds of animals and they sprinted and threw spears (so basically lots of high intensity training) for short period of times, maybe 30 seconds. We didn't hunt for smaller prey, it's just the last 500 years that some tribes have switched to small animals. Originally it was mammoths and the like. Weight lifting would be integral to this task for example moving parts of animal away to expose other parts of animal that are more edible, bringing the meat under a tree/to fire, carrying skin for later to prepare leather clothes. A typical day would involve lots of squats, deadlifts with large pieces of animal body.
@@Michal_Sobczyk I'm not sure how you define "endurance training", but in order to sprint you need to be able to run, and walking requires similar effort to running at slower speeds. At some point it becomes more efficient to jog than to walk briskly. Have you read Tim Noakes' work? I'm not arguing that people have lifted heavy things at times, but we use tools and physics concepts like leverage to minimize the muscle power needed to move things. Muscle is expensive to maintain, and when food is not guaranteed, maintaining muscle that doesn't get used regularly is a waste of energy. If folks in extant African tribes are living to ripe old age and remaining fit without lifting heavy shit every day, then obviously you don't need to lift heavy shit to maintain fitness in old age. Nutrition is way more important. Anecdotally, I feel way better running, biking, hiking, skiing, and doing bodyweight exercises like pushups and pullups than I do lifting man-made weights in a controlled environment. Dynamic exercise in a natural environment is way more evolutionary consistent than lifting bars on a flat surface or a padded bench. I've hunted game for 10 years now and the best training for that is hiking with some weight in a pack, not lifting weights in a gym.
@@StraightMobbinAK I'm aware of Tim Noakes in the low carb community but I haven't read his book. Endurance training for me would be defined as moderate exercise ie. time to total exhaustion (unable to move and breathe) somewhere between 1 minute-4hours. HIT/sprint/weight lifting is 20 seconds - 1 minute to total exhaustion (high intensity), walking is low intensity so total exhaustion is more like 10-20 hours. In my opinion all carnivores use low and high intensity tempo and avoid the middle. When it comes to weight lifting then remember that we used simple stones and sticks for a couple of million years, levers? Maybe, I don't know but even then we're talking about an animal weighting 3500kg compared to 400kg of a cow. Even trying to lift its leg on a lever on a branch of tree is a weight lifting training and it's probably more difficult that the exact same exercise using a lever on a gym today. I see people in the gym lifting 20kg on a lever for triceps, it's still weight lifting, high intensity workout for them. African tribes today don't live as our ancestors because they don't have access to large animals any more, all of them are kept by ranchers in captivity (at least cows in places like Kenya, Tanzania). The tribal people today eat ferrets, monkeys etc. 1000 years ago they were eating zebras and 10,000 years ago mammoths. Today tribal people look like skeletons, I wouldn't like to copy them. Look up representations of homo erectus on google, they well very well built, compare them to today Somalis, Ethiopians, Sudanese etc, the build, musculature is quite different. Pushups and pullups are great exercise, what's good is to increase the intensity so that you don't do 100 pushups but exhaust yourself quicker by making them harder. Also I don't personally jog, I'd rather hike as well but I can assure you that if you do an interval sprint training lasting 15 minutes you won't be able to walk the next day, it's very time efficient and gives a rush of euphoria.
@@Michal_Sobczyk My main point is that weight lifting is being promoted as a necessity for skeletal and muscular health, particularly in old age, while cardiovascular exercise is now considered almost useless, or even detrimental to health by many...and this is based on what? The same long-term epidemiological studies with weak methodology that are used to prop up plant consumption? If you ignore the bullshit studies and use the same approach that woke us up to the reason we should be eating mostly meat, you see that (1) our physiology is built for moving long distances, (2) the efficiency of the body leads to minimal but sufficient muscle mass for doing day-to-day activities, and (3) that the first two points are born out by the only hunter-gatherer groups we have to study. The Yupik and Inupiat have been eating whales for a loooong time now, whales that weigh a LOT more than mammoths did and which don't have appendages that enable maneuvering of the carcass, and these indigenous people do not look anything like weight lifters. How do they manage? By using tools, which is what all of humanity is built on, not brute strength. Ever heard the phrase, "work smarter, not harder"? That first and foremost applied to moving heavy things. Some people obviously prefer strength training to cardio workouts, and that's fine, I'm not here to debate what is more enjoyable because that is an individual thing afforded to us modern humans. But the body is above all else EFFICIENT, and if you don't need muscle to survive, then the body will tend to reduce what you have down to bare necessity in the face of a limited food supply. Beefcakes only exist where there is easy and unlimited access to food, which was hardly ever the case before agriculture. Putting on muscle just to keep lifting heavy weights in a gym is a waste of energy (putting aside the enjoyment factor). Getting a cardiovascular workout results in more efficient transport of oxygen to the tissues and movement of the lymphatic system, which means the energy we expend in the process of exercising results in reduced energy expenditure and improved health when we are not exercising. You obviously get a little of the same benefits from weight lifting because you are moving your body around, but the cost of rebuilding and maintaining larger muscle mass should result in reduced overall energy efficiency.
@@happyapple4269 it is part of the proper human diet. God gave us plants and the seed for food in the beginning. Meat wasn't introduced until after the flood. He (God) never said processed food was good for us.
Mince (ground beef) is rubbish even if you grind up some top drawer fillet steak. Keep the meat whole - chewing is an important part of the digestive process
This guy doesn't look particularly unhealthy, but does look the least healthy of youtuber carnivores I've seen. Not sure how much that has to do with his past issues, fasting, etc, and how much its his current diet. Looks and sounds like he's just on the edge of crying. Just something I noticed. Also, Saladino is definitely carb addicted.
Sorry, but the whole "everybody is different" mantra is silly and overused. We're all humans. Unless you're some sort of mutant, carbs aren't beneficial for you, regardless of what you think you feel. Lions are different too. Doesn't mean that some of them need carbs to thrive.
Yeah because every human is naturally suited to ketogenic or worse extreme all meat/animal food "zero carb" fad diets that contain no healthy whole plant-foods right? You probably couldn't even find 10 professional top athletes in their sport that follow a "zero carb" all meat/animal food fad diet. There's a good reason for that also.... As far as deeming all "carbohydrates" generically unhealthy is just disordered eating, whole plant-foods such as fruits, vegetables, nuts etc which all contain some degree of carbohydrates are metabolically healhy foods, which reduce diabetes risk and improve metabolic health through various mechanisms.
@@evidence-basedhealthuk5271 The fact that you're calling a zero carb diet a "fad diet" says it all. Not to mention the phrase "healthy whole plant-foods" or your claim that fruits reduce diabetes risk. Good luck.
@@patrickb8972 Yes it does say it all, a "zero carb" extreme fad diet of nothing but meat/animal foods coupled with eating no healthy plant-foods ever again is just nothing more than dangerous pseudo-science. Even all the healthy ketogenic, even the actual paleolithic, hunter-gatherer, "stone-age/primal" diets in the literature reference that they contained numerous plant-foods from fruits to root vegetables/tubers etc.
@@engc4953 Yet from individual to individual people have various different food intolerances, allergens, genetic mutations, individual health problems and so on. This is why there isn't a one size fits all diet for everyone.
Fine for finding your path but if you throw veggies and carbs back in you are NOT carnivore ? Its fine but you are now paleo or keto or ? But NOT carnivore this is about as good as the fake meat vegans push WHY call it meat when its not why call yourself carnivore when you are NOT Nothing wrong with being paleo or keto if that is what works Again good you found what works but I do find it funny folks try to stick to the term when they are not doing The be honest is the key thing which is not happening ? I do agree we all have to find our own path
Totally agree that nobody should be calling themselves carnivore if they're eating anything that comes from a plant on a regular basis. To be fair, though, Scott was pretty clear about saying he is no longer carnivore, but that he still completely supports others sticking with an actual carnivore diet if they feel good doing it.
They are purposely trying to market and take advantage of a social media fad diet, with absolutely no care if their fans get ill. Sounds much like the raw vegan self-credited fake "gurus" right? All these individuals are regularly cheating with a variety of plant-foods but promoting dangerous unsustainable extreme all meat/animal food fad carnivore pseudo-science to their fans. So their fans end up with bleeding gums and scurvy type symptoms due to a lack of vitamin C actually dilligently trying to follow their super carnivore diet "gurus" lies. Or severe muscle cramps from the lack of magnesium and potassium. Or like several carnivores ive now come across you might develop every abnormal kidney function marker going trying to live off nothing but rib-eye steaks mostly. I had one debate with a carnivore promoter on twitter who claimed he was 100% strict carnivore and after 2 seconds of pressing him he admitted to around about half a dozen plant-based cheats in the past 6-12 months alone. Where did 100% strict carnivore suddenly in 2 minutes turn into half a dozen plant-based cheats and this is just the foods they tell you about. A bunch of opportunistic entreprenurial huxsters that have used the raw vegan/fruitarian "gurus" templates to sell 1000s of dollars fake carnivore coaching "programs" and carnivore "qualifications", which of course are not accredited by any actual university except getting some fake carnivore doctor rich.
@@StraightMobbinAK Yes because custom gummies is the equivalent of marketing a fantasy dangerous pseudo-science fad diet afterall and trying to get rich by creating fake carnivore coaching "programs" and "qualifications". Why would pointing out the above bother you? I eat meat/animal foods also as part of a Mediterranean/Paleo style diet.
@@evidence-basedhealthuk5271 Dude, you're some random little fart selling vegan nutritional gummies on UA-cam and you're trying to knock doctors like Shawn Baker who stood up to the bullshit of mainstream medicine, started his own medical company, and is setting athletic records on a carnivore diet? You've got issues...
What most people and even keto specialists does not realize is that most of people on keto are ex carbholics. As for alcoholic there is no such thing as "reintroducing" alcohol in any quantity to remain an EX alcoholic, same goes with carbs. 6 years keto, more than 2.5 of that carnivore, staying for life. Never ever will let my old addiction to come back to my life, I value too much my life now that I know. If somebody does not have addiction problem, then I guess is much lesser problem.
Well said. You speak for so many.
Yes, finally someone who gets me. Thank for this.
I was a carbaholic as you say. And as knowing myself, in the last 5 years, I limited myself to introducing veggies and no other carbs. No sugars, no fruits. As someone with an eating disorder that nearly binged and purged daily , if not more (and for over a decade), I understand beyond what you mean. But as I’ve healed, I occasionally eat a piece of broccoli or asparagus here or there. Not all plants are created equal. So I do realize but I always push for root cause healing. There is a difference between I CHOOSE to eat only meat. Vs I can ONLY eat meat. One word but two completely different places of healing. Ultimately find what works for you but I will always strive for people to heal-that way events like the pandemic won’t derail people back into carbs.
Strong point along with the fact that they didn't discuss the long term effects of "carb loading" - which is what it sounds like he's doing... to fill in an energy source which will compete with fat . It seems like he thinks his weight training gives him a metabolic pass. Plus, he never mentioned if he limits the amount or just experiments with individual foods to see a response, which in its self is faulty b_c foods that damage gut don't immediately show the damage.... also, is there an actual real benefit nutritionally? The only reason he gives is he "needs more calories: ???? Saladino's reasons for eating fruit and honey don't make sense to me and he sells his supplements while encouraging ppl to embrace and deny their carb addiction....
This is entirely the problem the carnivores lump all carbs into the one bracket
So unhealthy refined carb/sugar rich foods such as breads, pastas, cookies, cakes, sweets etc are then used to claim that proven healthy whole plant-foods which actually improve metabolic health and lower risk of diabetes such as fruits, vegetables, nuts etc are suddenly bad for health due to a variety of crazy reasons
Having a handful of nuts etc should not stimulate anyone into suddenly binging on cakes, cookies etc.
Infact its this extreme carb phobia restriction that causes this binge diet mentality, the raw/vegans/low fat dieters are the same, they are terrified of dietary fats much in the same way the carnivores/keto dieters are terrified of any carb intake and as such they binge on jars of nut butters in one go due to restricting themeslves for months at time of healthy fats and as such this equates too that fats shouldnt be consumed at all if you can't moderate yourself.
It's disordered eating as someone who has been here with both extreme low carb and low fat fad diets, both as bad as each other.
Judy you have been putting out a lot of good stuff lately. Thank you ... And it is good to support people who (as we all do) have times of confusion etc. Be well!
I tried carnivore about 6 months ago eating only beef and lot more fat from the beef so I had digestive issues and got bored. The reason for trying carnivore diet is because eating carbs such as fruit, grains, beans, nuts seeds always left me hungry and slowly putting on weight. Some digestive issues too with so much fiber. Now I'm back on carnivore/animal products of "variety" and I feel amazing. I have coffee with 3 tablespoons of heavy cream in the morning about 6 to 7am. 1st meal around 12pm I have 1/2 cup full fat cottage cheese, 2 eggs with 1 tablespoon butter, 2 tablespoons of sharp cheddar cheese and 4 slices of thin chicken or turkey slices. 2nd meal 4pm-5pm I have 6oz Greek yogurt, 4oz of ground beef 85/15 fat. Snacks 3 squares of 85% dark chocolate and pork cracklings (1/2 cup). So I probably have 16 grams of carbs total from the yogurt and dark chocolate. I feel so great. I'm a 62 year old female. The calorie total is about 1200. But feel great at that amount. I didn't need to lose but maybe 5lbs and so I actually lost 5 lbs at first but now staying same weight. Seeing lots more muscle tone with no working out. No digestive issues at all. No hunger at all. Lots of energy. Feel sense of content. So agree I think you have to experiment with what works for you.
No one says as a carnivore you only eat beef. There are many good tasty meats in the world they are just not at your store. You need to go find them. Ditch the coffee and the cottage cheese - that's not food. Don't eat cheese mixed with other foods. Thin chicken and turkey slices are also not food. Greek yoghurt and chocolate are not food. Pork scratchings are oil soaked poison. If you need "treats" look up Fat bombs or eat Avocado.
Did you know dark chocolate or cocoa is high in lead and cadmium?
Great Chat! It's so comforting to hear that everyone is different and each person needs to adapt for THEIR optimal health. Thank you for being the voice of reason.
I can relate to this, I cut out everything except BBB& eggs, then I slowly introduce some carb’s back in& I realized what bloated me & gave me heartburn & what didn’t. I’m down 30 lbs & yes I am meat based, but I do have the octagonal yogurt,potatoes,sourdough bread,fruit & yes pasta… & I’m doing this on a monthly or by monthly basis. I’m sure I was addicted to carbs just like everyone else, but I feel to good to go back to the standard American diet. I refuse to go back! It is so individualized…
Scott is such a courteous, kind, well-meaning dude. I hope he figures out his remaining health issues!
Wow, his journey is very similar to mine. Carbs did help but my sleep is so easily disturbed. I’m still tweaking it to this day. I still fast but I now front load as well and I finish eating by 2pm. Really appreciate your thoughtful content.
Thank You Judy~ You Are a Beautiful Soul in All that You Do for us and the world!!!
I wouldn't go back to eat carbs regularly; considering the randle cycle and the inflammatory effect of mixing carbs and fat.
Mixing carbohydrates with fat rich foods doesn't suddenly equate to inflammation.
Look at the mediterranean diet meals which are both predominantly plant-based around whole-foods and contain animal foods also such as oily fatty fish.
These meals are highly anti-inflammatory hence why its a diet pattern recommended to address the likes of inflammatory and oxidative stress driven diseases such as cardiovascular disease.
It entirely depends on the foods and the composition of these foods, if you pack in highly anti-inflammatory plant-foods rich in polyphenols such as olive oil, nuts, vegetables, fruits and so on.
Now mixing the wrong types of carbs/fats can be terrible for metabolic health, but then again most carnivores are eating a blind excessive saturated fat fad diet that is terrible for metabolic health and arguably has one of the worst fatty acid profiles of any fad diet in the world.
To the point most of these carnivores end up with off the charts LDL-C and dyslipidemic lipid profiles in the space of months eating mostly just saturated fat, at the expense of other heart healthy fats in the diet.
I won't take the risk.
Carbs and fat aren’t inflammatory
Thanks, this was a great video with a lot of useful information. ❤️
Another channel, Carnivore BPD, she has found that she has to stay strict beef, salt and water for her mental health, so for some, strict carnivore is necessary.
And I have clients that are the same. And why I will always advocate for meat-only being a very viable option long term!
Well thats never going to last for health or ever be safe is it?
Its most likely lacking in numerous nutrients such as vitamin A, probably little to no vitamin C activity, let alone every other nutrient.
Just because people find symptomatic relief from extreme dietary restriction doesn't suddenly equate eating such way to be sustainable, safe or healthy.
@@NutritionwithJudy Ridiculous given that such dangerous "diet" is not nutritionally complete to be sustainable for health long-term.
Any nutritionist should be trying to work out why such extreme dietary restriction is offering symptomatic relief, is it a dietary trigger, a food allergen, underlying functional GI condition such as dysbiosis/yeast overgrowth/SIBO etc, low stomach acid etc, not trying to validate disordered dangerous fad diets like all beef which is going to be harmful to the clients health in the long-term.
A complete recipe for cardiac arrest and scurvy.
@@evidence-basedhealthuk5271 I guess those who have been doing carnivore for 5, 10 and 15+, are not evidence? “The fact that while our basic human biology is the same, at a biochemical level we are all unique. Each of us has key differences in our genetics, microbiome, hormonal and immune systems that impact how we react to food.”
@@seeking.harmony Nobody has been doing carnivore aka 100% meat/animal foods coupled with absolutely zero healthy plant-foods for 10, 15, 20 years etc.
These carnivore "gurus" who have popped up overnight to cash in on this fad diet are just as bad as the fake raw vegan diet "gurus" who claim to have lived off just fruit for 30 years and not a single bite of cooked foods.
As someone who has grilled quite a few of the main carnivore diet "gurus" and promoters they are all liars about what they eat.
I debated one on twitter who claimed he was a 100% strict carnivore for years and within 2 minutes I managed to weedle it out of him that he had ate about half a dozen plant-based cheats in the last 6-12 months alone
All liars...
Thank you for this interview, Judy. This really helps.
I really like both these folks. Honesty and not crazy dogmatic. They both stick to their strong suits and areas of expertise, and both understand that there is always something they can learn from the other. I enjoyed this interview a lot, especially after starting to re-introduce a few carbs here and there after 4 months of strict carnivore. I believe that for some, addictions to things like carbs and alcohol can be overcome to the point where that person can have a little of whatever they were bound to, after a time of healing. When I was in my 20's I would have to have been classified as a "functioning" alcoholic, but now I only have a drink a few times a year with my wife at a meal or celebration, and it causes me no issues the next day. Addiction is a medical condition, and for me, carnivore seems to have healed my addiction to carbs, and now I honestly find it pretty easy to get back to carnivore eating the next day without issues so far. I honestly just love the food so much it's not a problem to go back to meat only, and leave the sugar and carbs in the cupboard - instead of on my ass.
Something important to note: you're body will be more receptive to carnivore/high fat eating when sugar is PURGED from the body
I’ve noticed that it seems many of the dietary sects are adding back carbs. Esp in the Keto world-some influencers seem to be separating completely from the keto ideology. Things go in waves, but I hope there’s not a return to low fat & fruit/veg heavy diets.
Never. And I will always be meat-only most days and meat-based all days. People will always return to a proper diet for humans. And I will always advocate for the diet that gave me back my life. 🥩♥️
@@NutritionwithJudy today I had a visit with an NP from Yale’s Obesity Clinic who only knew the script she’d been brainwashed with. I told her cutting out fruit reversed my NAFLD. She didn’t accept that even when I told her fructose goes straight to the liver thru the portal vein + the body can make glucose from fructose via the Polyol pathway. Why do providers think schlepps are unable to know how the body works? First & last appt for me.
@@ハク-q6e1j if you do not eat salt (of course sea salt), you will have to drink blood. I have to disappoint western minded people, but not many of them are drinking blood. So, good sea salt will be your second choice.
@@NutritionwithJudy that is so true.
It all comes full circle.
I’ve tweaked my diet so many times thinking there’s gotta be something better out there than just plain meat but at the end of the day, I always come back to carnivore finding out I feel the best with just meat in terms of cognitive function. lol
@@ハク-q6e1j key questions: What type of salts they were using? No matter of diet, when you reduce or stop using table salts your health goes for better no doubt. There is other side where people on good quality of salts do well, on different diets. It's highly individual, someone needs more, someone needs less, and someone needs none (as long as they drink blood).
Don't look at studies. They are or too short, conducted very chaotic and not organized, and also interpreted poorly on top of that.
We still talk about carnivore diet here, but no humans were carnivores ever in their lifetimes. Let's respect carnivore movement, by not turning into vegan mindset (excluding, and being afraid of certain food groups).
We all have different needs, and are conditioned by different foods by our ancestry genome. We can shift/deviate slightly in our lifetime, but rapid change, and unified eating approach will always be terrible choice to minimum half of population.
Eat your meat every day if you can. Find best quality as possible. Add and rotate, or completely eliminate plant foods, and see how that works for you. Repeat, and rotate for few years, and you will be closer to truth, but only to truth that works for you, not necessary for everyone else
We all together should stop living in fear about foods, and projecting to others.
Also, very important thing to note that many different diets are not touching, is quality of water and breath. Without that you can do whatever, but will never reach your health.
40 grams of salt!?! That’s an insane amount!
Seems like you overate too much of the same thing & over salted. Bring a cold steak to work…no problem.
I eat 99% Beef…I eat ALL cuts, organs, homemade beef broth, homemade tallow.). I add egg yolks, good salt and good butter, if needed. 3yrs….love it!
I tried everything…and I feel my best with meat, dairy,eggs and fruits ❤ no restrictions whatsoever, I just don’t like veggies too much and if I eat a piece of cake I skip one meal…works awesome for me
Long story short, I have been having loose stool for my entire keto now carnivore journey for the past 4 years if I drink water too soon after eating. 3 weeks ago I made chaffles for my children; they thought they were okay but not excited by them. I ate the chaffles so I would not waste my eggs and cheese. Loose stool completely resolved no matter how much or how soon I drink after eating my meal. Best part I am saving money because I had to cutback on how much food I was eating because I started seeing the scale creep up. Went from 2lbs ground beef, 16 eggs and 60 grams tallow to 1ib ground beef, 12 eggs, 20 oz mozzarella and 30gm tallow currently. Caveat, still adjusting to obtain my new maintenance needs. Not trying to lose or gain weight.
20 ounces of cheese? Are you serious? No wonder you stopped having loose stool.
Good interview. Thanks, Judy.
BTW Judy, I love the chapter (titles) break out.
Great interview! Very informative! Thank you!
Light breakfast and heavier lunch and no dinner is great for me, we are all slightly different and I do believe in following the circadian rhythm
Nice interview. Only critique would be to get rid of "calories" as a measurement of anything. The human body doesn't operate on the Law of Thermodynamics. Calories don't count or matter. What matters is how much of the macronutrients you are eating, IE Fat, Protein, Carbs. As for energy, the liver will produce all the glucose (energy) our bodies could ever need from just about anything.
I had dreadful insomnia for most of my life. Then I went Keto (then Carnivore), but still sleeping badly. I was watching a Low Carb Down Under video one day (Dr Paul Mason) and Magnesium deficiency was mentioned and how the food chain is deficient and the most bio-available supplement was magnesium aspartate. So I started taking it. CHANGED MY LIFE PEOPLE! I sleep so well now.
Thanks for sharing. My insomnia is coming back. I'll try some. I've read that glycine also helps with anxiety and sleep regulation.
Taurine and b1 improved my insomnia hot flashes then iodine just provided the best overall healing. So far. Down to d3 k2 and these supplements from so many more before getting carnivore zen. Like 4 months.
The Carnivore fad diet is dangerously low in magnesium and potassium, especially if certain seafoods are not included.
This is a complete recipe for disaster for individuals with existing magnesium or potassium deficiencies or existing health problems such as cardiovascular disease, hypertension, mitochondrial disorders, where magnesium/potassium deficiencies may play a role and/or much higher requirements than the RDA.
Yet the carnivore fad diet often provides such lowly quantities of the above in comparison to other electrolytes that you'll see numerous carnivores complaining of severe muscle cramping.
Carnivore extreme all meat/animal food fad diets that are void of all healthy magnesium/potassium rich whole plant-foods is a good recipe for cardiac arrest.
Coupled with the often high sodium nature of carnivore.
@@evidence-basedhealthuk5271 so what can you tell us about vegan fad diet ?
@@brothercaleb Vegan is a fad diet that is highly prone to nutritional inadequacy, hence why i'm not a proponent of it and one of its harshest critics.
Numerous nutrients are of concern when it comes to vegan diets due to the irrational removal of all animal foods from vitamin B12 to vitamin D to long-chain omega-3 fatty acids to iodine, to zinc, calcium often difficult to obtain to conditional essential nutrients such as taurine.
Doesn't mean the extreme opposite is any better, an extreme fad diet of nothing but meat etc is moronic.
Could his inability to digest fat have something to do with how much excess protein he was eating? Those macro ratios seem way off. From what I've learned 60-80 percent of calories from fat seems to be ideal. I'm eating around 350g of fat and 250g of protein per day. This feels optimal. I know everyone is a little different
Please interview Kelly Hudson or again if you already have.
Scott, good show on The body and resistance work!
Vey informative, thanks.
Another great interview Judy. Thank you. Occasionally I add non-starchy veg for texture & flavor. However, I really love high to moderate fat carnivore on most days. Feel my best 😍
I'm often posting some contrarian comment... not trying to do that here, but at 17:00 ... why isn't Scott eating every 4-6 hours if he's bodybuilding? I tried upping carbs a while back and ultimately didn't like it. I'm growing much better now that I simply eat 4 meals a day, my last one, usually 2 brats, or a brat and a fatty chicken thigh, at 10pm! I sleep like a baby, haven't gained body fat, but have added about 3 pounds over the month of June. Muscles bulging everywhere. lol! ???
Lost too much weight I'm 5.3 with 84 pounds right now...
Had to add healthy carbs
my husband got aura ring-----i could not sleep next to him, that disturbed me, i'm cellphone-smog sensitive and that stuff i felt too much, when he returned the ring the customer service what like what? the reason was i couldnt sleep next to him.
Sorry, forgot to mention I was not eating cheese prior. Was only eating meat, eggs and tallow
I didn't hear discussion re: concerns about adding too much csrbs and the long term negative effects of depending on carbs to fill in as an energy source... so it missed the mark for me.... remember Prof Noakes' experience with high carb loading as a runner lead to diabetes and heart disease down the road... his body building requirements of 5000 kcal/day isn't a long term goal throughout his life... please address this next time... thx
I see no reason to ever eat anything but meat
There is no reason. But if you ever feel incline, you should have the ability to do so. That’s the root-cause healing I strive for ♥️
I did eat about 8 to 10 raspberries this year and next month is blackberries but that mostly to be sure they are at their peak ripeness... I obviously planted them before I was carnivore
Scott should read some Ray Peat papers about sleep issues
Scott sounds like another possible candidate for Vitamin A toxicity. (1) He was eating organ meats. (2) He couldn't handle much fat. (3) He felt better with bananas (fructose) and other carbs, just like Saladino and Aurelius.
While doing a low-Vitamin A diet that is as close to carnivore as I can get (carbs in my diet are only for symptom mitigation), I have been getting middle-of-the-night gastric distress similar to what Scott described - terrible gurgling, bloating, gas, and wicked diarrhea (moreso early on in the low Vitamin A diet). I also had a lot of fat malabsorption early on in the low Vitamin A diet.
Scott, don't give up on carnivore! Shawn Baker, Kevin Stock, Anthony Chaffee, and so many others are proof that you don't need carbs to perform. You should try a low Vitamin A diet and gradually work back towards full carnivore and see how you feel. It can take a long time (years) to get rid of excess Vitamin A, so be patient. I'm at the 2 year mark and have seen a lot of progress (along with a ton of very ugly symptoms that have come and gone).
What other symptoms did you have?
@@HealthyWithNicole A wide variety of skin, nail, mucus membrane, and nervous system issues, most of which actually started immediately AFTER removing Vitamin A and being on carnivore (essentially beef, caribou, lamb, rabbit, and the occasional chicken or turkey). Lots of dry skin (elbows, toes, bottoms of feet, fingers, scalp, horribly inflamed and receding gums, and the roof of my mouth feels burned and inflamed 24/7). Nails were brittle, then some became slightly ridged longitudinally, beading appeared on some, and mild onycholysis appeared pretty uniformly on all fingernails and to a lesser extent on toenails. Nasal passages/sinuses became extremely dry and irritated, bloody noses were common at times, lots of mucus in stools at times. Dizziness and a few episodes of acute vertigo, nystagmus, incessant muscle twitching/fasciculations and cramping all around the body 24/7, problems with sphincters in the alimentary canal (UES dysfunction and what felt like ileus in the colon where I couldn't pass gas and became constipated), sleep and mental disturbances. The list goes on but that's a pretty good synopsis.
@@StraightMobbinAK wow, interesting. Thank you for sharing the details.
@@HealthyWithNicole Sure, I hope I can save some people from the nightmares of Vitamin A toxicity. I definitely had oxalate toxicity as well, and I know some of those problems can overlap with Vitamin A toxicity, but it seems like my body cleared out oxalates pretty fast based on a period of cloudy urine that ended after maybe a month of cutting 99% of plant foods. I've second guessed my self-diagnosis of Vitamin A toxicity many times, but after 4 years of doing research and consulting with many different practitioners (none of whom actually figured much out), and 2 years of eating virtually zero Vitamin A, it's really the only explanation that can possibly fit the bill. Unfortunate that it takes this long to get it all out even when eating tons of meat every day!
@@StraightMobbinAK You mean stopped after removing? you said started after removing vitamin A.
This poor guy needs to go back to full carnivore with the help of coaching. Plant toxics are not the solution to any problem.
"Plant toxins" this is a scary level of orthorexia that is the equivalent to the rhetoric the raw/vegans come out about cooked foods and animal foods, thinking they need to avoid all healthy foods due to some mystical "toxins" they poorly or don't understand at all.
Avoiding all healthy whole plant-foods and binging on nothing but meat/animal foods is a good way to premature mortality and disease promotion, scurvy and other health problems.
So what is the problem with the fat with the ground beef? ... I guess you call it the "rendered" fat. Asked why is adding (ex) butter better.
I’d like to know, too!
It's not the actual fat in ground beef. Rendered fat is the heated fatty residue left behind in the pan. Most people don't do well with heated oil drippings. Instead its better to add butter or suet to your meat after it's cooked.
@@georgeevangelos9086 how is the rendered fat different? Does the heat alter it, so it is harder to digest?
I get so tired of hearing people miss the point on "rendered" fat. Rendering fat means heating whole chunks of fat and then removing any proteinaceous components. Technically, any fat that is ever heated is at least partially rendered, so you'd have to eat it raw to avoid rendering. The fat in ground beef becomes liquid faster than fat on a steak because the protein matrix has been destroyed by the grinding process. Otherwise, it's essentially the exact same as what's on a steak. It might move from the stomach into the small intestines faster than "intact" fat because there is no proteinaceous matrix to slow its digestion and absorption, and it therefore might cause a faster release of bile into the small intestines. If that bile (or signal to release bile) is what's causing symptoms, that might be the reason why liquid fat appears to cause more problems than "intact" fat that's still contained in a protein matrix when you eat it. If you have Vitamin A toxicity, the act of bile release can cause symptoms to appear quickly, or if your bile ducts are somehow blocked then the attempt to release bile would result in the backflow of bile into the liver and bloodstream, which would cause a different set of symptoms.
@@StraightMobbinAK
YUP liquid leave it in the pan put it in the fridge will be hard again !
Sadly so many say things that they do not understand
Like the Oh eating 40 grams of salt and tons of organs BUT its the heated/melted fat that is bad throw back in carbs ? Kinda like OH I had issues so eating tons of honey and fruit is the cure
Thank you!!! I have been trying to figure out why I react so badly to ground beef (reflux). What you said about not chewing it properly make total sense. I had been wondering if its chemical make up was different than other cuts.
If someone actually has a problem with ground beef, I really don't think it's from lack of chewing. Your body won't let you comfortably swallow meat that hasn't been sufficiently masticated. It probably has more to do with (1) additional heating of the individual muscle fibers because they are all more exposed to the cooking heat, and (2) the subsequent change of shape of those fibers due to heating. In a steak, the continuous sheet of fibers prevents individual ones from curling when heated and minimizes the heat reaching the inside of the steak, whereas in ground meat most of the fibers are free to curl whichever way they want making them less accessible to enzymes in the intestines.
Do you still have reflux with beef? I get it mostly when I eat beef shank meat and broth
@@Tap2EarnTips not as often anymore. When I first started carnivore, it was every time. Re-reading my comment, I should have used the past tense.
80 hr work week, 12-15k daily steps and getting optimal sleep. Impressive...
and 5 days a week lifting.....
my carbs came from fruits, raw honey, and raw dairy. But I workout so much.
I was wondering this - if carnivore doesn't work for all. My body really doesn't seem to like it - no period since I started, sleep is terrible, weight gain!!!!! I was starting to think something is wrong with me because I've upped the fat and fatty meat but still its not working for me.
I have CRPS (12 years) and an eating disorder (I struggle with sugar big time) so I was really hoping for healing on this but no period and no sleep 3 months in is making me think it's not for me
Make sure you’re getting enough calories and go to a doctor to make sure you don’t have an underlying condition like pcos
@@faylinameir I was definitely getting enough calories because I was putting on weight and now a lot of my clothes don't fit. But I definitely don't have PSOS I'm a mum and had numerous scans etc, I've also never missed my period for 3 months like this before either. Paul saladino had problems with his hormones on pure carnivore too, that's why he added back in fruits and honey.
I found myself in his story. Almost the same.
why do people always go to white rice??? trying to understand this? we don't grow rice here in the USA...wild rice yes
"ReintroducTing" on your video thumbnail!😆
Why would you??????
Judy, sounds like he has to address his gallbladder n liver. Just my
2 cents
Isn't the idea that weightlifting is better or more "useful" than cardio largely based on the same kind of crap long-term correlational studies that are used to promote plant foods? I don't understand how knowledgeable people keep repeating that mantra when human evolution clearly led to us being specialized for running and long-distance endurance activities. Maybe some of the extinct hominids like Neanderthals were bulkier, but Homo sapiens is lean and lanky because we've had to move more and more to find smaller and smaller prey items. We are runners by nature, not Atlases...just look at the writings of Bernd Heinrich and Tim Noakes.
Think about it...why would we need to lift additional weights in order to support our own body? That's like arguing that we need to keep eating carbs in order to maintain insulin output, or that we need to eat plant toxins because they boost our glutathione levels. The body is efficient, if you need to lift heavy things to survive, then the body will put on additional muscle to accomplish that, but doing it prophylactically is a waste of energy, just like eating carbs and plant toxins "prophylactically" is an unnecessary tax on your body.
We are natural sprinters, walkers and weight lifters. Endurance training is not in our nature. Our ancestors didn't do endurance training but they walked from place to place after footsteps of herds of animals and they sprinted and threw spears (so basically lots of high intensity training) for short period of times, maybe 30 seconds. We didn't hunt for smaller prey, it's just the last 500 years that some tribes have switched to small animals. Originally it was mammoths and the like. Weight lifting would be integral to this task for example moving parts of animal away to expose other parts of animal that are more edible, bringing the meat under a tree/to fire, carrying skin for later to prepare leather clothes. A typical day would involve lots of squats, deadlifts with large pieces of animal body.
@@Michal_Sobczyk I'm not sure how you define "endurance training", but in order to sprint you need to be able to run, and walking requires similar effort to running at slower speeds. At some point it becomes more efficient to jog than to walk briskly. Have you read Tim Noakes' work?
I'm not arguing that people have lifted heavy things at times, but we use tools and physics concepts like leverage to minimize the muscle power needed to move things. Muscle is expensive to maintain, and when food is not guaranteed, maintaining muscle that doesn't get used regularly is a waste of energy. If folks in extant African tribes are living to ripe old age and remaining fit without lifting heavy shit every day, then obviously you don't need to lift heavy shit to maintain fitness in old age. Nutrition is way more important.
Anecdotally, I feel way better running, biking, hiking, skiing, and doing bodyweight exercises like pushups and pullups than I do lifting man-made weights in a controlled environment. Dynamic exercise in a natural environment is way more evolutionary consistent than lifting bars on a flat surface or a padded bench. I've hunted game for 10 years now and the best training for that is hiking with some weight in a pack, not lifting weights in a gym.
@@StraightMobbinAK I'm aware of Tim Noakes in the low carb community but I haven't read his book. Endurance training for me would be defined as moderate exercise ie. time to total exhaustion (unable to move and breathe) somewhere between 1 minute-4hours. HIT/sprint/weight lifting is 20 seconds - 1 minute to total exhaustion (high intensity), walking is low intensity so total exhaustion is more like 10-20 hours. In my opinion all carnivores use low and high intensity tempo and avoid the middle. When it comes to weight lifting then remember that we used simple stones and sticks for a couple of million years, levers? Maybe, I don't know but even then we're talking about an animal weighting 3500kg compared to 400kg of a cow. Even trying to lift its leg on a lever on a branch of tree is a weight lifting training and it's probably more difficult that the exact same exercise using a lever on a gym today. I see people in the gym lifting 20kg on a lever for triceps, it's still weight lifting, high intensity workout for them. African tribes today don't live as our ancestors because they don't have access to large animals any more, all of them are kept by ranchers in captivity (at least cows in places like Kenya, Tanzania). The tribal people today eat ferrets, monkeys etc. 1000 years ago they were eating zebras and 10,000 years ago mammoths. Today tribal people look like skeletons, I wouldn't like to copy them. Look up representations of homo erectus on google, they well very well built, compare them to today Somalis, Ethiopians, Sudanese etc, the build, musculature is quite different. Pushups and pullups are great exercise, what's good is to increase the intensity so that you don't do 100 pushups but exhaust yourself quicker by making them harder. Also I don't personally jog, I'd rather hike as well but I can assure you that if you do an interval sprint training lasting 15 minutes you won't be able to walk the next day, it's very time efficient and gives a rush of euphoria.
@@Michal_Sobczyk My main point is that weight lifting is being promoted as a necessity for skeletal and muscular health, particularly in old age, while cardiovascular exercise is now considered almost useless, or even detrimental to health by many...and this is based on what? The same long-term epidemiological studies with weak methodology that are used to prop up plant consumption?
If you ignore the bullshit studies and use the same approach that woke us up to the reason we should be eating mostly meat, you see that (1) our physiology is built for moving long distances, (2) the efficiency of the body leads to minimal but sufficient muscle mass for doing day-to-day activities, and (3) that the first two points are born out by the only hunter-gatherer groups we have to study. The Yupik and Inupiat have been eating whales for a loooong time now, whales that weigh a LOT more than mammoths did and which don't have appendages that enable maneuvering of the carcass, and these indigenous people do not look anything like weight lifters. How do they manage? By using tools, which is what all of humanity is built on, not brute strength. Ever heard the phrase, "work smarter, not harder"? That first and foremost applied to moving heavy things.
Some people obviously prefer strength training to cardio workouts, and that's fine, I'm not here to debate what is more enjoyable because that is an individual thing afforded to us modern humans. But the body is above all else EFFICIENT, and if you don't need muscle to survive, then the body will tend to reduce what you have down to bare necessity in the face of a limited food supply. Beefcakes only exist where there is easy and unlimited access to food, which was hardly ever the case before agriculture. Putting on muscle just to keep lifting heavy weights in a gym is a waste of energy (putting aside the enjoyment factor). Getting a cardiovascular workout results in more efficient transport of oxygen to the tissues and movement of the lymphatic system, which means the energy we expend in the process of exercising results in reduced energy expenditure and improved health when we are not exercising. You obviously get a little of the same benefits from weight lifting because you are moving your body around, but the cost of rebuilding and maintaining larger muscle mass should result in reduced overall energy efficiency.
If they are not essential why reintroduce them?!
To test resiliency. You don’t have to ever add back though. I never make my clients add back. It’s not required
@@NutritionwithJudy why even test it if its the proper human diet?
@@happyapple4269 Yes, that is my point too.
Some notice health improvements from reintroducing carbs e.g sleep, mood, energy, thyroid etc
@@happyapple4269 it is part of the proper human diet. God gave us plants and the seed for food in the beginning. Meat wasn't introduced until after the flood. He (God) never said processed food was good for us.
Mince (ground beef) is rubbish even if you grind up some top drawer fillet steak. Keep the meat whole - chewing is an important part of the digestive process
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This guy doesn't look particularly unhealthy, but does look the least healthy of youtuber carnivores I've seen. Not sure how much that has to do with his past issues, fasting, etc, and how much its his current diet. Looks and sounds like he's just on the edge of crying. Just something I noticed.
Also, Saladino is definitely carb addicted.
Saladino is (and looks) pretty healthy though:)
@@Tap2EarnTips, eh. Looks off to me.
Sorry, but the whole "everybody is different" mantra is silly and overused. We're all humans. Unless you're some sort of mutant, carbs aren't beneficial for you, regardless of what you think you feel. Lions are different too. Doesn't mean that some of them need carbs to thrive.
Yeah because every human is naturally suited to ketogenic or worse extreme all meat/animal food "zero carb" fad diets that contain no healthy whole plant-foods right?
You probably couldn't even find 10 professional top athletes in their sport that follow a "zero carb" all meat/animal food fad diet.
There's a good reason for that also....
As far as deeming all "carbohydrates" generically unhealthy is just disordered eating, whole plant-foods such as fruits, vegetables, nuts etc which all contain some degree of carbohydrates are metabolically healhy foods, which reduce diabetes risk and improve metabolic health through various mechanisms.
@@evidence-basedhealthuk5271 The fact that you're calling a zero carb diet a "fad diet" says it all. Not to mention the phrase "healthy whole plant-foods" or your claim that fruits reduce diabetes risk. Good luck.
@@patrickb8972 Yes it does say it all, a "zero carb" extreme fad diet of nothing but meat/animal foods coupled with eating no healthy plant-foods ever again is just nothing more than dangerous pseudo-science.
Even all the healthy ketogenic, even the actual paleolithic, hunter-gatherer, "stone-age/primal" diets in the literature reference that they contained numerous plant-foods from fruits to root vegetables/tubers etc.
I agree and all human beings are 99.9 percent identical in their genetic makeup.
@@engc4953 Yet from individual to individual people have various different food intolerances, allergens, genetic mutations, individual health problems and so on.
This is why there isn't a one size fits all diet for everyone.
Fine for finding your path but if you throw veggies and carbs back in you are NOT carnivore ?
Its fine but you are now paleo or keto or ? But NOT carnivore this is about as good as the fake meat vegans push WHY call it meat when its not why call yourself carnivore when you are NOT
Nothing wrong with being paleo or keto if that is what works
Again good you found what works but I do find it funny folks try to stick to the term when they are not doing
The be honest is the key thing which is not happening ?
I do agree we all have to find our own path
Totally agree that nobody should be calling themselves carnivore if they're eating anything that comes from a plant on a regular basis. To be fair, though, Scott was pretty clear about saying he is no longer carnivore, but that he still completely supports others sticking with an actual carnivore diet if they feel good doing it.
They are purposely trying to market and take advantage of a social media fad diet, with absolutely no care if their fans get ill.
Sounds much like the raw vegan self-credited fake "gurus" right?
All these individuals are regularly cheating with a variety of plant-foods but promoting dangerous unsustainable extreme all meat/animal food fad carnivore pseudo-science to their fans.
So their fans end up with bleeding gums and scurvy type symptoms due to a lack of vitamin C actually dilligently trying to follow their super carnivore diet "gurus" lies.
Or severe muscle cramps from the lack of magnesium and potassium.
Or like several carnivores ive now come across you might develop every abnormal kidney function marker going trying to live off nothing but rib-eye steaks mostly.
I had one debate with a carnivore promoter on twitter who claimed he was 100% strict carnivore and after 2 seconds of pressing him he admitted to around about half a dozen plant-based cheats in the past 6-12 months alone.
Where did 100% strict carnivore suddenly in 2 minutes turn into half a dozen plant-based cheats and this is just the foods they tell you about.
A bunch of opportunistic entreprenurial huxsters that have used the raw vegan/fruitarian "gurus" templates to sell 1000s of dollars fake carnivore coaching "programs" and carnivore "qualifications", which of course are not accredited by any actual university except getting some fake carnivore doctor rich.
@@evidence-basedhealthuk5271 Says the person promoting Custom 3D Printed Vegan Nutrition Gummies! Go home plant puppet.
@@StraightMobbinAK Yes because custom gummies is the equivalent of marketing a fantasy dangerous pseudo-science fad diet afterall and trying to get rich by creating fake carnivore coaching "programs" and "qualifications".
Why would pointing out the above bother you?
I eat meat/animal foods also as part of a Mediterranean/Paleo style diet.
@@evidence-basedhealthuk5271 Dude, you're some random little fart selling vegan nutritional gummies on UA-cam and you're trying to knock doctors like Shawn Baker who stood up to the bullshit of mainstream medicine, started his own medical company, and is setting athletic records on a carnivore diet? You've got issues...