Sony Betamax 950 SuperBeta PRO-X on plasma TV
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- Опубліковано 27 жов 2008
- Sony SL-HF 950 (750 in usa) playing a Betacam tape (same as PRO-X)in superBeta Pro mode HI-FI Stereo 20hz 20khz, on Panasonic Plasma TV. Recorded from my original DVD.
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My SL-HF400 Beta has been in my garage for 7 years and I pulled it out today and it still works XD!
The one area where VHS always suffered was the colour saturation EVEN with Super VHS. Beta was just more pleasing to view. VHS always seemed a bit weak and forced to use numerous enhancement processes to even start to become comparable with what Beta could acheive. Then you've got the cassette size. Amazing how most ignored that but are always wanting with todays tech smaller and smaller items.Beta will always be alive whilst I'm around.Thanks for sharing.
the picture and sound quality remember of my JVC editing recorder CR850-U
That's exactly the common misconception I was trying to clear up. "250 lines" refers to the number of distinct vertical lines that can be resolved on a test chart (so it is something like a horizontal measurement) but the number of scanlines containing picture information is always around 480/576 (525/625 including the blanking interval and sync.) To look at it another way, the signal you get back from a VHS tape is "blurred" horizontally a bit compared to the original.
yeah man you make the right thing, betacam tape is the best option in a super beta video recorder like the video tape super vhs and a sony broadcast video tape for super vhs, the last tape the picture quality is superior in all the senses
in the uk at the time no one bought video recorders we rented them and VHS was cheaper but the more techy types saw BETA as it was,a better quality system.
please note that BETA as a pro format is still used the betacam tape also digital are used with hdd storage.
Still own many different Beta decks. Early on, the industrail Beta I had a lot of drop out issues. As a matter course, we would never record on the first few minutes of tape even after the format matured. We have hundreds of Beta I tapes in our archives and most of them still look great. I always loved skip scan and had a Beta Hifi deck when they were first released. The technology was always better than VHS.
Doesn't matter, the early BetaCam tapes are interchangeable both ways.
For the uninitiated, BetaCam FORMAT is not the same as BetaMax, but both use similar cassettes.
Did you tape that film on B I speed? Most machines have B II and B III only. I do love your Betamax. It's a wonderful machine.
the best beta machine ever!
Judging by the fact that mine was a lower-end machine and it survived, yours probably survive a nuclear bomb lol! Great VCR! 5 stars for a magnifico beta!
"TV lines" (analog video) are commonly mistaken to be a "pixel" measurement in the digital sense, but actually refer the level of horizontal resolution in one line. Each individual line is a continuous signal, with the amount of detail limited by the available video bandwidth. The vertical resolution of any standard analog video system is always 480 or 576 lines. The analog signal off tape is digitally sampled by the plasma TV's display processor (likely at 720x576) and scaled-up for display.
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Yes, this demo was recorded from a DVD
A super betamax vcr, fully running and in perfect condition would probadly be worth a whole lot more than the newest top name brand bluray player.
dude, that is so cool
Súper buena máquina
ah yes that was it natsir88....i remeber something about the incompatibility when i worked with Betacam SP all those years ago....i remember also someone telling me you could work round it by using a SP shell and putting 1/2" tape in it...providing you splice foil leader instead of VHS clear leader...or something like that.
This machine is a European PAL model, and hasn't B I, II or III modes, just SP speed (1.8cm/s - like 2cm/s BII mode).
Yeah! it's a brilliant and dreamy machine.
Thx for comment.
thanks for the advice
No scalers are used, Betamax is directly connected to Plasma TV via BNC to RCA video out
@kawaiifreak860 VHS is 250 TVL. It is still 483i. So is S-VHS and Beta.
That's really awesome quality
Thanks for info! I never used it again. I purchased some SuperBeta Pro-X.
BETAMAX. Much Much better graphics/sound than VHS!
I am The One I think Betamax was short lived. I think they stopped making Betamax in 1991
have the same !!! and I must say it is one of the best wirglich beta recorder !!!
I was certain the early Betacam tapes were the same material as Pro-X.
It was the Betacam SP tapes that changed the material of the tape itself.
@psbilo
Si, y ese con todos los leds funcionando! y como suena!
Que lástima que muriera tu V2000, las paginas que me dices si las habia visto tambien varios videos en youtbe, me referia que no he visto en real un V2000.
El mio era de mi tio, y siempre quise uno desde que lo vi con 7 años o asi, finalmente en 2007 conseguí que me lo diera :D!!!
Panasonic model 37PX70,diagonal size 37".
thanks for view and coment.
Fantastic to see a 950 running again - ah that motor sound - it brings it all back - hope it’s still going. I had one for a few years - cost me £749.99 and was one of the last ever batch. I understand their a bitch to work on and needed very careful setting up. The C9 wasn’t as sexy and the sound was very poor (being stereo but LOW FI) but I felt had a better picture - had my re-headed twice but gave it away with about 300 beta tapes to a friend (who was a big Beta fan) many years ago
@psbilo que lástima que no te funcione el V2000, nunca he visto uno.
Este betamax lo cuido y cuidaré como una joya!!
espero subir mas vídeos cuando tenga una camara hd para apreciar toda la calidad.
gracias por comentar.
@Dant2142 That, and VHS tapes could always record more than Beta tapes.
funny how people picked more storage over better picture quality with betamax and vhs, similar thing with bluray and hd dvd, same performance just one had double storage for double the price
whats the difference between betamax tapes and betacam ive a slf-30 made by sony and chearch tapes to running this old machine.
here in holland betamax didnt use since the rly 80 vhs won the race
but the picture quality from betamax is mutch better
tape is tape
De ahí que los profesionales sigan usando el analógico
una pregunta, este equipo, hasta el momento te funciona? yo he tenido 2 reproductores de beta y los dos se echaron a perder
Were any other scalers used, except that in the panel?
Use a peritel (scart) to hdmi converter it will suppress the color problem (2'43 etc.) !
+KStarDid this converter can help? i'm using direct scart input from tv. thanks
+macolest Direct scart into modern plasma/LCD TV is not great with analog machines, it causes synchro/color problems with some tapes. I use this model : www.conrad.fr/ce/fr/product/989271/Convertisseur-PeritelHDMI-vers-HDMI-SpeaKa-Professional/?ref=detview1&rt=detview1&rb=1 : no more problems !
KStarDid Thank you! i will try this.
What is the model of the Panasonic plasma panel? And what is the diagonal size?
its the same tape and its not dangerous at all to use it on a normal betamax vcr
The only different is betyacam is digital as a dv tape and betamax is a analog system but better as a vhs system
Cuidalo mucho tío, tienes una joya, yo tengo un V2000, EL VR 2334, pero no enciende, BETAMAX Y V2000 ERAN LOS MEJORES VCR,S
This is something!..
Roetheperfect, I could not reach your link, please, write it again carefully. It may be interesting.
Que tal Macolest, como te va!!!, conseguí un beta, es un sony sl - f60 me lo regaló un vecino, y funciona bien!!, pena que solo tenía una cinta, hace años tiró unas 20 a la basura!!!!, ahora ando buscando cintas por rastrillos, y tiendas de 2ª mano xd!!, esta jodida la cosa!!!!
I adore these outdated mechanical machineries. The more moving parts the better!
I don't have any movie making program like iMovie or Windows Movie Maker and I don't have any tape for the beta. I'll try though:)
Yes, this is 100% true :)
Not strictly correct. When Betacam was developed by Sony, the tapes were oxide and able to be used in consumer Betamax machines. When Betacam SP (superior performance) was released in the late 80s, the SP tape formulations being metal particle were too harsh to be used in consumer Betamax machines.
Ese modelo reproduce Betacam sin problemas??? tengo entendido que se dañan muy pronto las cabezas de una Betamax si se reproduce un BETACAM
No reproduce BETACAM pero puedes usar las cintas para grabar en el modo SuperBeta PRO-X, en ese caso no dañas nada.
Únicamente cintas BETACAM, no betacam sp ni ninguna otra.
Saludos
Valla, no sabía, entonces que maravilla de aparato tienes, yo tengo una SL-HF600 pero tiene fallas que me gustaria arreglar, como cuando reproduces una cinta no grabada en HIFI se oye malisima, o cuando borras una cinta no lo hace correctamente y se alcanza a ver una imagen "fantasma" de la grabacion anterior
@kawaiifreak860 250 HORIZONTAL lines. That's TVL. The vertical lines are to the dimensions of 483, 241.5 per field, 50 fields per second. It can be down to 220TVL, but it's still 483i (or where I am (or was depending on when you read this) 576i).
483 lines would be insane resolution. 220 lines is 333x483i or 333x576i, and 420 lines (Hi8) is 560x483i or 560x576i.
So what you are saying is damningly wrong.
Has visto el video de 0raffie0, tambien tiene un SB!!!
@Riddler95 yes, with a RCA to BNC adaptor,. Connecting the video and audio outputs from the DVD player to the Beta inputs.
thanks for comment
betacamand betamax uses the same tape its the same as a vhs tape so its not a shame to use a betacam brand tape in a max machine
@lieckenske Cost was higher I believe.
I have a Sony SLHF 950 bought new in the uk in Sept 89. I'm told the heads have gone and it has been dormant for last five years. Bought JVC SVHS but much prefer the 950.
If anyone know anyone in Spain who I can trust to replace the heads (our local engineer would not touch it and told me it was too good to dump) please let me know or possible buyer in uk or even someone in uk who can replace the heads. I have a local man with van who does regular trips. Tom Smith
Well, I tell you, this is something... But how it could be? With only 280 lines.
Post a video! plz
Se esta pasando un fragmento de la película el señor de los anillos : la comunidad del anillo, grabada de mi DVD original.
Se ha grabado con propósitos demostrativos únicamente.
@macolest Puedes verlos en la pag. PHILIPS VIDEO 2000, y también en esta otra The V2000 Gallery, el mío es el vr 2334, me falló el arrastre, y me ralló 3 cintas, lo lleve al técnico y no tuvo arreglo lo guarde en una caja, con sus cintas y todo, y el sabado al sacarlo para limpiarle el polvo, lo enchufe y no enciende, se murió, pero no lo pieso tirar, para mí es parte de mi pasado lo compraron mis padres en 1984, cuando yo tenía 7 años, costo 145.000 ptas de las de entonces
HOLA GENIAL VIDEO TE FELICITO!!! QUE PELICULA ES LA QUE ESTAS PASANDO EN EL BETA? UN ABRAZO
Just dele the blankspaces in the link
el formato analogico si esta bien es mejor que el digital, pero es carisimo es el problema
you know what works real good?..watching the dvd.
DANGER this is beta tape and you wear the head out alot faster i have betacam gear
i used tape in my hi-fi deck and hi-fi was dropping out alot at a betacam sp digi rent out
place had service tec he back up what alot were saying betacam is super ace for hi-fi audio
Super Beta was a bit sharper than Regular Beta. Definately better than VHS, but NOT SuperVHS. When combined with a Ultra high quality tape and the highest speed possible, these looked amazing, for the time. This was obvioulsy not Betacam, but rather B-II. For the record, Hi-8 tapes looked a lot better than this. Cr@p! Even Video-8 tapes looked better than this, when using a high quality tape.
El Beta max tiene la misma calidad de video y sonido del DVD
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its highly unadvisable to use betacam broadcast tapes on a beta VCR. the oxide is much different and has been known to rip heads to shreds!