After 300+ Requests- I made Donald & Douglas

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  • Опубліковано 31 гру 2024

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  • @LarrysLego
    @LarrysLego 3 дні тому +381

    HOW COULD YOU USE A FACTORY ERROR???!?!?!??!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?

  • @warsthemarvel8608
    @warsthemarvel8608 3 дні тому +40

    The fact that Geoh is the one who’s finally made a proper 2003 style Donald and Douglas is insane! Great work mate, next time a 2003 style Mavis any chance?

    • @Diecastcreations
      @Diecastcreations 2 дні тому +1

      That would be so cool to see. She was shortened wayy too much in her older model!

  • @TankEngineMedia
    @TankEngineMedia 16 годин тому +2

    Donald and Douglas deserved the glow-up they got! Fantastic job!

  • @brenlc1412
    @brenlc1412 3 дні тому +47

    1:27 “Douglas, why are you masquerading with Donald’s tender?”

    • @AbbeyYard
      @AbbeyYard 3 дні тому +8

      _"WHERE'S MY COACH!?"_

    • @brenlc1412
      @brenlc1412 3 дні тому +6

      @ “Cooch? What cooch?”

    • @AbbeyYard
      @AbbeyYard 3 дні тому +7

      @@brenlc1412 "MY _SPECIAL_ COACH, THAT GORDON BRINGS FOR ME! IT'S _GONE!_ I MUST _FIND IT!"_

    • @brenlc1412
      @brenlc1412 3 дні тому +5

      @ “Losh sakes! I must’ve stowed the special coach away with the others!”

    • @warsthemarvel8608
      @warsthemarvel8608 3 дні тому +4

      Donald and Douglas saga by the Unlucky Tug

  • @DaxProductions4124
    @DaxProductions4124 2 дні тому +8

    Donald and Douglas are 2 of my most favorite characters, i absolutely loved your designs of them! Great work Geoh.

  • @mawindahood
    @mawindahood 3 дні тому +17

    12:12 DONALD WHERES YOUR TROUSARS! you cant even imagine how much i jumped with joy when i saw the thumbnail geoh. Great custom!

  • @SkarloeyBrickBuildz
    @SkarloeyBrickBuildz 3 дні тому +4

    7:43 welcome to the gang! I have a wooden railway Douglas for 10 years now and I still need to get a Donald. It has seen better days tho.

  • @ConrailQuality4121
    @ConrailQuality4121 День тому +2

    8:08, I don't have a mishmashed set, moreover I have 2 sets of them in Take along form and then another lone one.

  • @thewoodenkipper
    @thewoodenkipper День тому

    Definitely some of my favorites from you so far awesome work!

  • @J.Tstudioproduction6375
    @J.Tstudioproduction6375 3 дні тому +5

    I have to admit, your custom wooden railway models of donald and douglas look really good and more accurate to their Tv series counterparts.
    your Craftment skills are truly a big improvement ever since you started with your first custom wooden railway model of City of Truro.
    anyway, marvelous work on your revised versions of donald and douglas Geoh, and have a great happy new year. ;)

  • @amitysluzara2022
    @amitysluzara2022 День тому

    You absolutely knocked it out of the park as always!

  • @tomthemixtrafficengine1451
    @tomthemixtrafficengine1451 3 дні тому +11

    9:51, I just realized that the looking at the front of the face is suppose to be a larger smile but, just after you drilled it and turned to the side, it kinda looked like Douglas's shock face from Escape. Now we're missing Toad.
    Great work though ❤
    PS: the twins could have looked like this during the ranges final year(2017).

  • @thecellistssubliminalcorner
    @thecellistssubliminalcorner День тому

    They look so cute! Great job on your custom!!

  • @Diecastcreations
    @Diecastcreations 3 дні тому +4

    Ever thought of making a collection video? I remember seeing you open a huge lot of 1992 trains about two years ago and it’d be cool to see all your wooden models with your new editing skills. Especially knowing the fact you own factory errors 😁
    Also 1:37
    (LETS GOO BOTH OF MY LEGENDS ON SCREEN TOGETHER!)

    • @GeohToy
      @GeohToy  3 дні тому +1

      Collection video is definitely in the cards, probably something for the second channel but absolutely! Thanks for the comment. And glad you liked the cameo!! ;D

  • @brakevanfilms101
    @brakevanfilms101 2 дні тому

    I love this detailed videos man! It shows us how you make some pretty awesome customs! Keep up the good work!

  • @williamb.298
    @williamb.298 2 дні тому

    I'm happy that my request, (among many) has been resolved, I liked the construction of the funnels, and domes, which I felt needed to be resolved, you did a great job here!

  • @raventhescottishredengine2005
    @raventhescottishredengine2005 3 дні тому +13

    The new version of Donald and Douglas are a solid 10/10!

  • @IsleofPigsStudios
    @IsleofPigsStudios 3 дні тому +4

    8:03 I only had a Trackmaster Donald and Ben, no Douglas or Bill. And even then I only have the tender left of Donald (I still have Ben)

  • @NWRJAMES2005
    @NWRJAMES2005 День тому

    Really nice customs there! 👌
    7:43 I always had a wooden Donald but no Douglas whatsoever. I remember going to Toys 'R' Us a couple of weeks after getting Donald to buy Douglas, but it turned out that there wasn't any left on the shelves and since then I still haven't been able to get one, especially in these days, where TWR is pretty rare in Sweden. But if one does pop up for a decent price, I'll definitely get it.

  • @ItzAppleXL173
    @ItzAppleXL173 3 дні тому +7

    Another fantastic work! They look incredible.
    8:02 I did, i only had a Trackmaster Douglas and no Donald to go with him. I said "had" because since i was a destructive child i ended up unscrewing him apart and he ended up in pieces, all i have left of him is his shell without the smokebox or face and one of the tender's wheels. RIP to Douglas
    I'm hoping to one day get them both and this time take them with care XD.

  • @gkingGabe72
    @gkingGabe72 День тому

    What a way to end off 2024. Excellent work on your Custom Donald and Douglas, Geoh. Now you have a full set of custom Little Western engines.
    Funny that you mention having only 1 of the twins. I have an Ertl Donald, but never an Ertl Douglas. Maybe I'll get one someday and complete the set.

  • @thecooldude9830
    @thecooldude9830 2 дні тому +3

    My day is instantly better just by watching this video SCOTLAND FOREVER

  • @superdude24
    @superdude24 2 дні тому

    I've always fell in love with Donald and Douglas since they're from Scotland (Where I'm from) but you did an incredible job on these customs of them, they just look so accurate to their TV Models!!! This is a 10/10 for sure, Great Work Geoh

  • @ZainsTrains
    @ZainsTrains 3 дні тому +2

    These are amazing! Great job!

  • @nwrwoodentales6652
    @nwrwoodentales6652 2 дні тому

    These are truly amazing! You make some banger customs!

  • @JaxonOsterhout
    @JaxonOsterhout 2 дні тому +1

    Just like Emily those two were the same thing I did cuz I didn’t know what to do thinking I wanted those to look like Duck, but they look so much better than the previous ones I made. Like thx so much for this tutorial ❤

  • @Splendid_Studios
    @Splendid_Studios 3 дні тому +4

    Definitely a lot better than the official ones! I’m glad to see another custom video!

  • @BrickishRailways
    @BrickishRailways 2 дні тому

    You’ve done a superb job on these two, especially considering you had to make them as identical as possible!
    Love your work, mate!

  • @raventhescottishredengine2005
    @raventhescottishredengine2005 2 дні тому +1

    The new Donald and Douglas faces almost reminds me of the Tomy/Hit Toys faces.

  • @theblueproductor
    @theblueproductor 2 дні тому

    8:02 I had so many different diecast Donald and Douglas's, I had ERTL 1 Donald and 2 Douglas's and then 1 Take Along Donald

  • @zacharyspinks6207
    @zacharyspinks6207 2 дні тому

    I got to Hand it to You, These are Absolutely Amazing and Spot On, The Custom Made Wooden Donald & Douglas is Awesome.😃👍

  • @TankEngine97
    @TankEngine97 3 дні тому +4

    These look absolutely amazing. I'd goes as far as to say that they look better than their wooden railway items.

  • @alexniculae5470
    @alexniculae5470 2 дні тому +2

    8:08 lol, i had a take n play Donald and an ertl Douglas and also THEY LOOK AMAZING!!! They look like the new 2022 wooden railway style engines in my opinion.

    • @jpenguin66
      @jpenguin66 2 дні тому

      No way I had the same mismatch
      I still have the ertl Douglas but I recently lost the take along Donald and could only find his tender

  • @jjjerichoblue-h4g
    @jjjerichoblue-h4g 3 дні тому +9

    I only ever had a crappy knock off wooden Douglas, and after seeing this video, i plan to do a similar thing to it, like you’ve shown here

  • @Steamtheamaricanengine
    @Steamtheamaricanengine 3 дні тому

    At 7:43 ive never even had any let alone one kf them until this christmas where im getting both wooden railway donald and dougie

  • @ReviCat
    @ReviCat 3 дні тому +1

    AAAAYEYEEE IT'S THE SCOTTISH TWINS!!
    And you finally gave them funnels
    The second dome is the S Valve btw

    • @GeohToy
      @GeohToy  3 дні тому

      Thank you! Good to know it has a name.

  • @MaxwellTheTrainFan
    @MaxwellTheTrainFan 3 дні тому +4

    We need a custom bill & ben now . I mean you got one set of twins and we be needing the other set soon . Perhaps shortened too whilst at it .

  • @sodorpro
    @sodorpro День тому

    Nice customs, and also I had the exact same mismatched twins, a TWR Douglas and take along Donald and only Ben in TWR as a kid.

  • @SushiDoge
    @SushiDoge 3 дні тому

    For quite a while I only had a Bachmann Douglas; he was my first HO/OO model but eventually I got Donald too :) Fantastic work, your craftsmanship is incredible

  • @MoronicGamer54
    @MoronicGamer54 18 годин тому

    These models were fantastic man. Good job! If you do another engine I think you should do either James or Edward. They were both done dirty with their wheel configurations and overall designs.

  • @Diecastcreations
    @Diecastcreations 3 дні тому +1

    A Geoh video without any mishaps or plot twists? ABSOLUTE CINEMA 👏👏👏

  • @FlyingDuckMan360
    @FlyingDuckMan360 3 дні тому +2

    Now these are the kind of Donald and Douglas models I'd like to have in my Wooden Railway collection. If Mattel really wanted to win back the crowd, they'd release models like these for the 2022 Wooden Railway line in 2025, and it's not like they're not trying in other Thomas merchandise ranges; they're releasing a new Trackmaster Thomas model that looks more like his CGi series counterpart, an 80th anniversary Golden Thomas MINIS model with an illustration of Thomas' Railway Series counterpart, and a new Diesel 10 MINIS model more accurate to his model series counterpart as a tie-in with the 25th anniversary of Thomas and the Magic Railroad.

  • @HarveyHipkisx
    @HarveyHipkisx 3 дні тому +1

    They look amazing!

  • @smokeyjoeproductions
    @smokeyjoeproductions 3 дні тому

    8:09 my Bill and Ben were from the pack where one of them was painted blue in that one episode. I actually liked how it differentiated them.

  • @TheTSMBoi
    @TheTSMBoi 3 дні тому

    YESSS!!!
    These are mad amazing
    300/10
    (Faces are smooth)

  • @Koko_Chan
    @Koko_Chan 2 дні тому

    I love how shiitake has just become your mascot. As a sunshine fan, you make me proud. And as a wooden railway fan, you make me proud once more.

  • @KeyBlast25
    @KeyBlast25 3 дні тому +3

    I had a set of mismatched twins too - I only had a Wooden Donald and Ertl Douglas until about 2 years ago.

    • @PCMan8922
      @PCMan8922 3 дні тому +1

      I have a Wooden knock-off Douglas and a Take Along Bill.

  • @PCMan8922
    @PCMan8922 3 дні тому +1

    All those requests mean, that we love your skills of making customs and want you to keep going (by making
    more fan favorite characters like the Twins).

  • @erickaraujo5327
    @erickaraujo5327 3 дні тому +2

    I must say these models turned out really good, they look amazing you did an incredible job. And I also have a mismatch set of twins it isn't Donald and Douglas but it was Arry and Bert, I have a trackmaster Arry and a take along Bert and to this day I haven't got the complete set.

    • @GeohToy
      @GeohToy  3 дні тому

      Hey that’s pretty cool! I know Trackmaster Arry is rare so that’s a cool item to have! Thanks for watching and for the comment

    • @erickaraujo5327
      @erickaraujo5327 3 дні тому

      @@GeohToy You're welcome, sadly my Arry is not in good condition, he needs a new chassis because his old one somehow split in half and he needs touch ups on his yellow paint. I recently rectored his face and it turned out really good, I only need to find the yellow paint and a new chassis and he will be good as new.

  • @SonicJrandSarah
    @SonicJrandSarah 2 дні тому

    Those are fantastic customs. They look so much better than the official models. I cannot believe we never got updated versions of Wooden Donald and Douglas.

  • @GreatNorthern1923productions
    @GreatNorthern1923productions 2 дні тому

    Good Job Groh on ur Donald and Douglas project ❤😃

  • @SandySpeeder
    @SandySpeeder 3 дні тому +3

    I never had a take n play Donald, but I had two Douglas. One had a white spot on a wheel, so I resorted to using that to identify which one was “Donald”

  • @speedyg8598
    @speedyg8598 2 дні тому +1

    Absolutely loved the customs way better than the original👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿, maybe for your next custom you could try diesel 10 🤔

  • @PercyandSailorMoonfan2002
    @PercyandSailorMoonfan2002 2 дні тому

    These are awesome! Now we have the whole Little Western gang done in your style!

  • @RealJankBusesOfficial
    @RealJankBusesOfficial 2 дні тому

    Your always getting better lad

  • @WeegeeMaro
    @WeegeeMaro 3 дні тому

    My family and I always love watching your customs, whenever your Emily video first came out me and my mom watched it together since Emily is one of her favorites along with Scotsman. Donald and Douglas were always some of my favorites as kids despite not having many DVDs with them on it, and you’ve replicated them greatly in Wooden form. The use of the 3D printer is really nice too, and even if it’s not 100% accurate to the model, I’ve always interpreted the Wooden toys to be more simplistic and charming takes on the characters which is why they work so well for customization.
    Also funny story, when I was a kid I had both Donald and Douglas but lost Douglas’ main body. I still had the tender, but for the life of me I could not find him anywhere. Then, when I went to visit my grandma’s house, it turns out he fell under something and she had him the whole time, waiting for me to visit again.

    • @GeohToy
      @GeohToy  3 дні тому

      That’s genuinely heartwarming, glad you both all like the videos! Glad I could provide entertainment to your family!!

  • @slashcrazyfo0xx481
    @slashcrazyfo0xx481 3 дні тому +1

    Thank you for putting me in the video really appreciate it!🎉

  • @southern_production_622
    @southern_production_622 2 дні тому +2

    Ngl it would be pretty cool to see james or edward

  • @TobyOliverHenryFan
    @TobyOliverHenryFan 3 дні тому +5

    0:10 No! You didn't just use the best Donald and Douglas theme there is!
    That alone has made the video 20 times better! And it hasn't even started!

  • @ItzNicky295
    @ItzNicky295 3 дні тому

    8:07 I had a wooden railway Donald for 2 and a half years until I got a Douglas last year and I also had an original take along Donald but a round magnet take n play Douglas until Christmas when I got a take along Douglas to match my Donald

  • @webadoinc.7112
    @webadoinc.7112 2 дні тому +1

    I had almost the same thing, a wooden Douglas and an Ertl Donald. Not even sure how I got the Ertl Donald because I got him in 2013 or 2014, so Ertl was long gone by then. Although, I did and up finding TWO 1999 TWR
    T-switch tracks in 2023, so I guess Amazon works in mysterious ways!

  • @abbeyroadfan94-J.P
    @abbeyroadfan94-J.P 3 дні тому

    amazing job Geoh keep being awesome

  • @Thenumbersthatareodd
    @Thenumbersthatareodd 3 дні тому +1

    You made amazing models!

  • @mbcmechachu
    @mbcmechachu 2 дні тому

    8:03 As a die-cast collector it always bothered me that my twins were mismatched. Growing up I had a Take Along Donald & an ERTL Douglas. Then a personal friend gave me their Take Along Donald to keep which led me to turning my original Donald into a Douglas. It took me until moving out into my own place for me to finally get my hands on a Take Along Douglas, courtesy of my friend Mullins Studios.

  • @abrahamproductions2951
    @abrahamproductions2951 4 години тому

    This is definitely an improvement from the originals and give so much life to some plain jain originals, I do have some feedback I want to give.
    1. The gap between the front of the runningboard and smokebox is pretty big and is more closer together in the TVS
    2. The Cabs are pretty tall and can do with some shortening.
    3. The tenders feel small in height compared with apart of part of the cab

  • @thegrumpysaddletank
    @thegrumpysaddletank 3 дні тому

    8:08 I only had a take n play Donald only recently I’ve been able to collect a Douglas… although it’s take along and they just look a bit odd next to each other now all I have to get it Donald in take along and I’ll be done

  • @takenplayshorts
    @takenplayshorts 3 дні тому +12

    STEPNEYYYYYY PWEEEEES

  • @jamesthomas5109
    @jamesthomas5109 2 дні тому +1

    @GeohToy Personally the only modification i would make is the addition of two circular windows on the front of their cabs, just like their basis. 😊

  • @MattzWorkz
    @MattzWorkz 3 дні тому +4

    ive always hated how the knock off wooden railway engines have reverse magnets

  • @tankenginechad
    @tankenginechad 2 дні тому

    Great custom! I'd like to see Percy done next!

  • @J.Tstudioproduction6375
    @J.Tstudioproduction6375 3 дні тому +1

    you know, this gives me an idea, since you did your revised version of Donald and Douglas, perhaps you could might do Bill and Ben for one of your next projects for 2025. I'm certain if you have other projects planned for 2025, so i'm only saying this for an idea or suggestion for your next revised custom wooden railway models.

  • @therailwaymen2203
    @therailwaymen2203 3 дні тому +2

    I think the next engine should be.. any engine at all, you’ll always do a great job regardless of the engine!

  • @Jacob-and-Jack-The_engine
    @Jacob-and-Jack-The_engine 11 годин тому +1

    I have a take and play Douglas with a Donald tender and I have both of their fisher price models(THEY MIGHT BE FAKE) and Donald’s face and smokebox fell of and I couldn’t screw it back on cuz my hands kept shaking so I hot glued them

  • @tyshotrains4736
    @tyshotrains4736 3 дні тому +1

    I had only Donald from tomy/Trackmaster for years and recently finally got Douglas. Nice customs Geoh

  • @TS1402Ed
    @TS1402Ed 3 дні тому +1

    I got Donald & Douglas as a christmas present this year, never had them before.

  • @tomvirtavuori
    @tomvirtavuori 3 дні тому +3

    Good ones! Next Henry or a complete custom character from the railway series, like Bear.
    👍😉

  • @thomasandhisfriends-w1e
    @thomasandhisfriends-w1e 3 дні тому +2

    Donald and Douglas look so good 😊👍

  • @MaxwellTheTrainFan
    @MaxwellTheTrainFan 3 дні тому +2

    I had a wooden railway Douglas … I painted him blue and then lost the bugga …
    And am awaiting the day bachmann make a N scale Donald and Douglas for me to get based from there CGI models .

  • @LoganAnimates_Official
    @LoganAnimates_Official 2 дні тому

    1:54 ah yes, my favorite scottish twin: Busy As A Bee James.

  • @Trainfan1563
    @Trainfan1563 3 дні тому

    When I was younger I was always looking for a clarabel everywhere but could only ever find Annie. I only have one clarabel and it has a broken coupling 😢

  • @Mundo_imaginario_de_arthur
    @Mundo_imaginario_de_arthur 3 дні тому

    Beautiful, just beautiful, a masterpiece!!!!

  • @gordonjames5833
    @gordonjames5833 2 дні тому +1

    Amazing customs I must say. And what program eo you use to make stickera bc a couldnt find enywhere a good one

    • @GeohToy
      @GeohToy  2 дні тому +1

      I have a tutorial up on how I do it!
      ua-cam.com/video/6vJZ5eIKrmo/v-deo.htmlsi=YhNLHF4SuUZa-rIa

    • @gordonjames5833
      @gordonjames5833 2 дні тому +1

      @GeohToy oh, thanks didnt notice that. Thank you

  • @Spectrum_diecast
    @Spectrum_diecast 2 дні тому

    Looks awesome, had Thomas wooden railway. When I was a kid in this video is improving. The original models, please do bill and Ben next.

  • @RedVelvete_Cake
    @RedVelvete_Cake 3 дні тому

    8:02 i actually got a donald, douglas, oliver and duck for under $50 dollars on ebay, they were official too!

  • @Shiny_964
    @Shiny_964 3 дні тому

    8:03 Yup! I only had an Take-along Donald
    Fantastic models by the way!👍

    • @dominicf8039
      @dominicf8039 3 дні тому

      Same here!

    • @Shiny_964
      @Shiny_964 3 дні тому

      @dominicf8039 One day we will get a Douglas! One day!!😅

  • @UziTheDroneEngine
    @UziTheDroneEngine 3 дні тому +1

    Wow these look amazing 10/10 Customs

  • @donaldscottishengine
    @donaldscottishengine 3 дні тому

    they look pretty good! maybe you can put the little slope they have under their faces in the big empty space on their running boards?

    • @GeohToy
      @GeohToy  3 дні тому +1

      Yeah, might have to make an additional piece to put there

  • @Nerguy
    @Nerguy 2 дні тому

    Ty so much Fr fr

  • @jaredcmar1888
    @jaredcmar1888 3 дні тому

    Hey Geoh, have you ever thought about using a bench vise table to hold your model for drilling holes or use a small drill press to drill perfectly on where you want the holes to be?

    • @GeohToy
      @GeohToy  3 дні тому

      Thanks for the suggestion, I’d be interested but not sure I can invest in such equipment for content 🤣😅 thanks for the comment!

    • @jaredcmar1888
      @jaredcmar1888 3 дні тому

      @@GeohToy Of course😉 If you don't want to spend that much, you could go for a small table top drill press? I know I found one on amazon for a descent price.

  • @markmaasch5209
    @markmaasch5209 2 дні тому

    Cool custom of Donald & Douglas.

  • @TigerGirlEditz
    @TigerGirlEditz 3 дні тому

    Omg I missed the custom wooden railway videos glad that they are back 😁👍💖

  • @MoonlightRailfaning
    @MoonlightRailfaning 3 дні тому

    Great models 😁 only thing I would say is the water cap should be at the back of the tenders since that’s where it is in the show the cap was on the back since Donald and Douglas bases the Caledonia Railway 812 had in the back too 🧐

    • @GeohToy
      @GeohToy  3 дні тому

      Thanks for the information! I went off that one shot from Donald’s Duck that had the cap in front.

    • @MoonlightRailfaning
      @MoonlightRailfaning 3 дні тому

      @ ah ok yea in that shot I think that an little cap in the corner so the crew can refill the tender quicker. 🙂 still an amazing custom I hope next you do Toby and Henrietta, Victoria, and his luggage van

  • @Fanofplarailproductions
    @Fanofplarailproductions 2 дні тому +1

    I have never had a toy of Donald and Douglas but I wish to get the take along version of the twins

  • @HZStudios2023
    @HZStudios2023 3 дні тому +2

    2:26 OMG YES STARDEW VALLEY MUSIC

  • @OliverWalkerModRail
    @OliverWalkerModRail 3 дні тому

    I had a mismatched take along Donald and Ertl Douglas until I was about 9 when I finally got an Ertl Donald, never got a take along Douglas though 😔

  • @LBSC70
    @LBSC70 3 дні тому

    12:05 I just starting singing Donald Where's Your Troosers very loudly when it started

  • @OhTheIndignity
    @OhTheIndignity 3 дні тому +7

    Here before the comments of people who acted like they watched the video but didn’t.

  • @thewiseoldowlproductions6127
    @thewiseoldowlproductions6127 3 дні тому

    8:03 not sure if this counts but I had trackmaster donald without Douglas and Bert without ‘arry

  • @DalekThomas08
    @DalekThomas08 3 дні тому

    I had the same mismatched Donald and Douglas, as well as mismatched Bill and Ben lol
    Also those are amazing models, too! I love how they look with the new decals

  • @Diecastcreations
    @Diecastcreations 3 дні тому +2

    Oh my god I love your videos so much please don’t die

    • @GeohToy
      @GeohToy  3 дні тому +2

      I’ll try not to!!

    • @tameemalganis3632
      @tameemalganis3632 2 дні тому +2

      WHAT THE WHAT???!?!?!?!!!!!!?!?!?!?!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!!?!?!????!?!?!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!!???!??!!!!?