Can we just appreciate that is probably the first and maybe only time JK sticks to the news topic for the whole video. Goddamn this debate was intense I loved it. I'm really happy Kev's here an all, fucking love the man
@@blakesurles5908 I love that you are watching this a month later I always watch old jk vids when they are done posting for the day. Let me know If you find any funny episodes
I mean he still comes off as over zealous. The specialist he was referring to is one person. Another psychologist, did extensive interviewing with the two accusers and has stated that he very much believes that they were groomed. His name is Howard Franklin. If you want to do some research. Funny how joe didnt mention the name of this specialist. hmmmm
Caitlin Brennan poor wade no poor Michael. Y’all don’t know anything I mean neither do I but there is some that happened I don’t know what it is yet. Who knows if we’ll ever know the truth.
Again he was investigated for 10 years by the fbi and they found nothing , was raided twice and found nothing , stop stating things u don’t hav evidence to support
Micheal's first accuser admitted his father wanted money (he didnt know Wade or James) His father later admitted he wanted money from Michael before killing himself from guilf (he didnt know Wade or James either) and Michael's second accuser's story didnt make sense, he kept changing his story, he told his school principle that nothing happened and he later admitted that it was his mother trying to get money (he didnt know Wade or James either). So michael's past accusers admitted nothing happened and didnt know these two so how does this make sense? Its hard to say what im trying too. Does anyone get what im trying say?
Hes a comedian, was on (add) all def digital produced by russel simmons. He has his own podcast called righteous and ratchet (with doboy) its really good 👌😉
They investigated him for 10 years and raided his house twice, the first time with him being out of country, the second time with him not knowing. They found nothing 🤔🤔
OMG! I screamed so loud when I saw KevOnStage! I NEVER expected to see him on JK News. They are two of my fave UA-cam comedy channels. Omg this is great! Ahhhh so unexpected. Didn't even realize they were aware of each other. Okay I'm done and I'll watch the video now. I was just too excited. I would love to see Bart, Joe, David, or any of the cast on the ask a ___ series
I don't care if its MJ a 40 fucking years old is not supposed to be a friend with a 7 years old kid Like honestly i feel people is defending MJ just because he is MJ , sure we don't know what happen , but he did all these weird stuff , and maybe he thought no one will catch him since he knew alot of people are defending him , i mean you don't know him personally, you only saw him performing or in tv
Do you think TRansgender people are weird? they think they are opposite sex, its a mental thing and you will never know how they feel. Same with MJ he was mentally a child thats why he was always with kids.
Downfall Downfall what the fuck are you talking about ? So all the Paedophile are with child mind and we should get them help instead of putting them in jail !!! WTF !!!! How do you compare someone chose something for him self with someone one his choice are ruining other kids life !!! Are you in your right mind !! And how do you know he didn't make this up so stupid people like you will find it some reasonable answer for his weird behavior
He was only investigated twice in a ten year period. Not 13 years straight, not even 10 years straight. And the FBI wasn't really that involved. It was local police who had the FBI if they needed it.
Molesters don’t abuse every kid they know. Fact. They abuse the kids they know will keep their secrets, the most controllable. I’ve experienced this first hand. So saying ‘well this guy is standing up for Michael, so he didn’t abuse him ‘ means nothing. Doesn’t mean he didn’t abuse another child...
I've been abused and had a family member be subjected to a pedo that made films and had all kind of sick things on his computers. He only got caught because his own daughter who was only 8 was pregnant by him. Yes, they go after donor about children and families. But MJ does not fit the profile of a pedo. I've looked at the evidence and watched the documentary. The men talk about actions that happened. As a abuse surviver I know it more about the shame and aftermath. These men don't so typical signs of a victim.
YES, girl, say it louder for the people in the back!! That doesn't mean shit. If you've never been a victim of sexual abuse, you have no idea what a mind fuck it does to someone. There is no way someone can say, well he's acting this way or that way so he's lying. Every situation is different, every person deals with it differently. Shit some victim continue to speak/interact with their abuser. Especially, if they were groomed/abused from a young age. I remember Oprah saying that as an adult she recalls still serving her abuser coffee at some sort of family function and she thought to herself...what is going on, here I am a grown adult acting as if nothing happened. Fact of the matter is, NO ONE knows the truth expect those involved, including Michael's family. People out here throwing around...fact he did it, fact he didn't do it...you don't know shit. You have an opinion and that's it! Before anyone tries to come at me...My stance on this is, I can't stand firm on whether it happened or not. I do believe a lot of odd shit happened between Michael and children (sleeping in bed together, etc.), which I blame the children's parents 100%. NO ONE should be letting that shit happen to their kids, famous or not. When you're a parent your job is to prioritize your child's safety above all.
He still hung out with Michael into adulthood. Michael made him Paris's godfather. Paris and Macaulay still hang out to this day. There's lots of videos of them joking around together and she has posts with him on her insta.
Even Michael's sister accused him of these things, stop thinking with your fan brain and use your common sense. Michael is still Michael-the king of pop, but that doesn't mean he is innocent of these crimes. As a female who has been molested as a child, it is hard to realise wtf happened to you and dealing with it. It takes years, sometimes a lifetime to accept. "He is dead, let the man rest " lol if these allegations are true, they have to live with it EVERYDAY for the rest of their lives so yea.
If you knew She was forced to say this by her ex husband who was also her ex manger who was abuse . And also made her go on playboy . The Husband /Manger made her do all these things for money . All these things loatoya said don’t count as evidence and not credible at all
@@caitlinbrennan9039 Yeah no matter how you look at it, no grown ass man should be alone in a locked bedroom, sleeping with a little boy, in the same bed. I think he HAD to of at least fondled a kid or two. Some of his little kid 'friends' might defend him but Micheal Jackson was a very successful man with a lot to lose, he had to be selective with his victims.
Why aren't they coming after ELVIS PRESLEY who was courting & married Priscilla when she was young & underage?! Or WOODY ALLEN who raised & eventually married his adoptive daughter?! So many other (white) celebrities who aren't getting exposéd on 😒
I didn't know about that DECADES after they were dead. Fun fact, did you know Frank Sinatra had mob ties and wanted woody Allen dead? Shame that didn't happen
I’m always surprised no one mentions the interview done with Michael’s bodyguards. I suggest it as recommended watching for anyone looking to get other perspectives on Michael’s accusations. It’s all on UA-cam.
You have to look at it all. He has young kids sleep in his bed, with alarms to his room. He was only interested in young CUTE boys. When the boys aged he lost interest. Theres just too much for me to believe he never did anything. I mean a grown man. I understand he's messed up himself, but come on.
Honestly I kinda believe it. There is no reason for an adult man to be around children who are not his family. It's weird and just because some kids didn't get abused dose not mean that some weren't. Also if he was a smart predator he wouldn't go after extremely famous kids as Macaulay Culkin.
These were kids trying to make a career in entertainment. MJ was helping, that's not very odd when you consider facts. That's how Justin Bieber got famous, someone recognize his talent.
@@JMysticStar7 I understand where you come from but the fact that these children were trying to be famous makes them vulnerable. They are not famous so if any allegations come out who would the public believe some kid or the King of Pop? Corey Feldman has stated that he was never abused by him. Which brings back my point that if he was smart he would not take advantage of an already famous child.
wow great content, I believe that was one of your best jknews video, so much passion and information. you shared a lot of people's concerns and emotion on the subject. BRAVO guys.
Joe was coming through with the facts tho and btw I loved this debate because basically you shinned a perspective on every posibility pro or vs Jackson
the fbi investigated mj twice within the span of 13 years, not for 13 years. I am all for believing survivors, and while I admit that some of the accusers might be game chasers, these men are claiming that something horrible happened to them. While we should look for proof instead of believing blindly, a victims character should never be brought into question. It took me over 10 years to discover that I was assaulted because I had repressed memories. That very much could have happened in this case. I hadn’t even voluntarily kissed someone until I was 17 and even then I ended up ending things almost immediately because of anxiety, and I have no clue where that anxiety is coming from. The mind is not all conscious, and this is almost all victim blaming. Everyone is always wanting to blame the victim, and it honestly makes me upset. Think of how it would feel for something like this to happen. It’s horrific.
I am SO GLAD you had a lengthy discussion about this and shared all your thoughts and perspective. Tbh I don't really know what to think about this whole situation because I do know that mainstream media is so manipulative and that ppl are def taking advantage of the situation. So it's great that you put so many more information and perspectives into this! This is what I love about JKNews!
heyhuong Yeah the media are definitely in cahoots together with this story. I find it funny that at the same time this documentary airs, Harvey Weinstein had a court date. Oprah and Harvey are friends. Harvey also had a documentary come out at Sundance, but you don’t hear anything about that do you? Harvey was also known to paid gossip columnists to push stories that would take heat off of him during certain times in his career
Tosh La oh really? I’m not from the US, so I mainly hear about major things like this. 🙂 It’s crazy how manipulative the media is and whatever I read/listen to I do it carefully...kinda sad.
heyhuong Yeah the media really dropped the ball on this case. They should be ashamed. I can count on one hand the number of journalists who have actually questioned the allegations
@@toshla4871 oh wow, interesting! That's what I like so much about JKNews because it's different personalities coming together and having a healthy discussion :) idk what to think about all this. I just wanna focus on myself and being the best decent human I can be and hope to have a positive impact on others. That's all, cause thinking too much about this won't give me an answer anyway...
clearly ppl watching/commenting aren't doing their own hw n believing everything joe said. i appreciate the thoughtful discussion but a lot of what joe claims as facts are just as much facts as what wade/james can claim. its all he said/she said. the character smear of wade fr brandi jackson could/could not be true.. its all her account. can someone else verify everything she said? e.g. joe talked abt wade breaking up JT/britney as if it was confirmed but this is only alleged by brandi jackson. i also find it interesting that joe didn't have much input on the grooming. oprah's interview was mostly focused on grooming and her pt was that a lot of ppl can go into adulthood not realizing that they were abused and protect their perp out of fear/love, and a victim is a victim if molestation occurred regardless of their motivations for bringing their case to light later in life.
I know Joe has done his research on Mj but I feel like he's doing research on what he wants to hear. Of course if you look up things that are defending Mj there are going to be a lot that comes up.
Lucy Hathaway He presented facts unlike this documentary. You can’t base your opinions solely on this documentary, but then get mad when someone gives evidence that contradicts Wade’s and James’ narrative
not really this is just been going on for years and people get tired of hearing this bullshit over and over again the man is dead and there's nothing you can do about it now I only watch the first 5 minutes and give no fuks to see their rest.
oChungAttack excuse yourself Geo doesn’t owe nothing This is a show where friends are chopping it up and having a conversation. When you are with your group of friends, guaranteed you or some friends in your group won’t know the whole story but will comment on it because that’s how a conversation goes. This isn’t the View, this isn’t a news show Why you singling out Geo when you know Bart didn’t see the full thing either.
My mom is a child psychologist and has had clients who have been sexually abused and she said after watching the documentary that their stories are credible and make sense. You guys don’t have any experience or expertise to determine what a sexual abuse survivor does and experience. I used to love JK but now I don’t want to watch anymore...
I made it to a JK News video. My dreams have come TRUE!!!!
Nice! I always watch you on add. Glad to see two of my favorite channels together. You're funny.
I just went to your comedy show last month in Albuquerque! Great to see you here too! Lol
Nah man Jk news made it to you 😏
At this point JK needs people like you and Steve to stay afloat. Their show runs by inertia these days.
Great collab , thanks for sharing your brand of humor and thoughts.
"let's say we have a son"
"We do have a son."
Oh Bart 😂😂
Taika is Geo's son 😜
just priceless.
That killed me
It was more let's say. We have a son. He like started over but it came off as lets say we have a son still funny lol
That one asian guy I heard the same thing lol
Joe goes to Batman level detective work when it comes to MJ.
Lol yess im so happy someone did the research like everybody have been saying
Joe went straight Johnnie Cochran!!!
amysocool7 you have to be. Growing up an MJ fan ...you needed a counter to the South Park episodes. Luckily he had been heavily investigated
Mei -mei Where did you read that Gavin Arviso died?
VengefulOne96 he right about the media woke
Never thought I'd see Kevonstage on here! Pleasant surprise
Destiny hope he comes back for more videos!
Exactly! I was so excited
Don't he live in new York.
I knowewwwww
@@mrmushin1 no he's from Washington I think but he moved to LA
Can we just appreciate that is probably the first and maybe only time JK sticks to the news topic for the whole video. Goddamn this debate was intense I loved it.
I'm really happy Kev's here an all, fucking love the man
"If you told me that was coldplay I would believe you" 🤣🤣🤣
Gotta love Steve
I read the comment right as he said it
@@blakesurles5908 I love that you are watching this a month later I always watch old jk vids when they are done posting for the day. Let me know If you find any funny episodes
I absolutely love the fact that joe a superfan of mj isn’t just defending his idol blindly he’s researched everything about his points
I mean he still comes off as over zealous. The specialist he was referring to is one person. Another psychologist, did extensive interviewing with the two accusers and has stated that he very much believes that they were groomed. His name is Howard Franklin. If you want to do some research. Funny how joe didnt mention the name of this specialist. hmmmm
That's exactly what he's doing. Joe appears almost delusional here
What hahhahahahaha he’s completely blindly supporting him i found this video so harsh poor wade
Yeah it’s one meme he’s referring to, which is a bunch of bs that is skewed
Caitlin Brennan poor wade no poor Michael. Y’all don’t know anything I mean neither do I but there is some that happened I don’t know what it is yet. Who knows if we’ll ever know the truth.
almost 25 minutes.. finally the JKF movie we've been waiting for since 2014😍
vanessa k lmao
The movie will suck there’s no doubt about it. Bart can’t act worth a shit if his life depended on it
@@altervee8603 it's a joke man
Yeah, I honestly think the movie is not worth it they should focus on UA-cam channels and revive JK films and ask the feels
Goteem
Yall got KevOnStage?!?!?!? What?!?!?!
who is he?
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cheaseeds look up All Def Digital! Or better yet ADD Best Taste! You won’t be disappointed
Broseph359 or roast me
Thats what I said
Can we all just admit that having kids sleeping in his bed and locking the door is really weird?
Again he was investigated for 10 years by the fbi and they found nothing , was raided twice and found nothing , stop stating things u don’t hav evidence to support
It is very weird. If that's not a red flag as a parent, then I don't know what is.
@@faraimachakanja3247 Watch the documentary before you know what you are saying.
with a doorbell sound to know when someone was approaching in the hallway
If he was a woman would it be as much hype?
20:22 "He's not that weird." -JOE on Michael Jackson 😂 _birds of a feather_
I'm speaking on their eccentric personalities.
@@vb8428 No one's a pedophile
15:31 I love this lil moment between Kev & Tiff 😂😂😂
Sun Daze when your side gossiping with your girls 😂
Micheal's first accuser admitted his father wanted money (he didnt know Wade or James) His father later admitted he wanted money from Michael before killing himself from guilf (he didnt know Wade or James either) and Michael's second accuser's story didnt make sense, he kept changing his story, he told his school principle that nothing happened and he later admitted that it was his mother trying to get money (he didnt know Wade or James either). So michael's past accusers admitted nothing happened and didnt know these two so how does this make sense? Its hard to say what im trying too. Does anyone get what im trying say?
The father also had many plastic surgeries on top of that to hide his face. But he was always found out
Joe gotta be a lawyer in defense of Michael jackson with all he knows lmao
Whaaaaat my two favorite channels together?! Jk and ADD Love love love!!!
Marissa Figueroa duhhhhhh thats fax
Exactly
kev left add
His channel kevonstage
I wish Patrick came with Kev, would've been awesome Patrick be woke to hella shit.
20:38 😂😂😂🤣🤣
Steve always coming in clutch with the sarcasm
The "how dare you" got me 😂
😂😂😂
Omg kevOnStage!!!!! This is such a vibe keep collabing with the real ones! 🔥🔥
somehow i have never heard of kevonstage but he seems like a really cool dude
He's black. That should be enough.
Bell Kurvv get out of here
@@RobinLundqvist I'm not in so can't.
Hes a comedian, was on (add) all def digital produced by russel simmons. He has his own podcast called righteous and ratchet (with doboy) its really good 👌😉
@@bellkurvv3461 and what are you?
The FBI did not investigate him for 13 years. Thet investigated him twice in the span of 13 years.
Twice is better than once if you ask me
THIS.
@extremedude1234 It was the sheriffs who did a shit ton of scanning out of neverland and mj. FBI gave them tech support but still found nothing.
They investigated him for 10 years and raided his house twice, the first time with him being out of country, the second time with him not knowing. They found nothing 🤔🤔
Im SOOO glad Steve was here for this episode
He literally did no research. All of his arguments were based on emotion.
@@altervee8603 excuse me what
@@Gtasplayer Everyone else was swayed with emotions, wtf r u talking about!!??
@@Gtasplayer Micheal was fucking weird
Me too. Joe was too emotional
OMG! I screamed so loud when I saw KevOnStage! I NEVER expected to see him on JK News. They are two of my fave UA-cam comedy channels. Omg this is great! Ahhhh so unexpected. Didn't even realize they were aware of each other. Okay I'm done and I'll watch the video now. I was just too excited. I would love to see Bart, Joe, David, or any of the cast on the ask a ___ series
Now I feel like they can get anyone from LA on Jk like damn their network is huuuuge
I don't care if its MJ a 40 fucking years old is not supposed to be a friend with a 7 years old kid
Like honestly i feel people is defending MJ just because he is MJ , sure we don't know what happen , but he did all these weird stuff , and maybe he thought no one will catch him since he knew alot of people are defending him , i mean you don't know him personally, you only saw him performing or in tv
I so agree with U .
Agree.
Do you think TRansgender people are weird? they think they are opposite sex, its a mental thing and you will never know how they feel. Same with MJ he was mentally a child thats why he was always with kids.
Downfall Downfall what the fuck are you talking about ? So all the Paedophile are with child mind and we should get them help instead of putting them in jail !!! WTF !!!! How do you compare someone chose something for him self with someone one his choice are ruining other kids life !!! Are you in your right mind !! And how do you know he didn't make this up so stupid people like you will find it some reasonable answer for his weird behavior
He was only investigated twice in a ten year period. Not 13 years straight, not even 10 years straight. And the FBI wasn't really that involved. It was local police who had the FBI if they needed it.
Still doesn't change the fact that they found nothing
FBI had enough resources in those two events to get some evidence.
Molesters don’t abuse every kid they know. Fact. They abuse the kids they know will keep their secrets, the most controllable. I’ve experienced this first hand. So saying ‘well this guy is standing up for Michael, so he didn’t abuse him ‘ means nothing. Doesn’t mean he didn’t abuse another child...
Miss Mac fact- he didn’t abuse any child. Do your research
Sarah Tran well he is no way 100% innocent.
I've been abused and had a family member be subjected to a pedo that made films and had all kind of sick things on his computers. He only got caught because his own daughter who was only 8 was pregnant by him. Yes, they go after donor about children and families. But MJ does not fit the profile of a pedo. I've looked at the evidence and watched the documentary. The men talk about actions that happened. As a abuse surviver I know it more about the shame and aftermath. These men don't so typical signs of a victim.
YES, girl, say it louder for the people in the back!! That doesn't mean shit. If you've never been a victim of sexual abuse, you have no idea what a mind fuck it does to someone. There is no way someone can say, well he's acting this way or that way so he's lying. Every situation is different, every person deals with it differently. Shit some victim continue to speak/interact with their abuser. Especially, if they were groomed/abused from a young age. I remember Oprah saying that as an adult she recalls still serving her abuser coffee at some sort of family function and she thought to herself...what is going on, here I am a grown adult acting as if nothing happened. Fact of the matter is, NO ONE knows the truth expect those involved, including Michael's family. People out here throwing around...fact he did it, fact he didn't do it...you don't know shit. You have an opinion and that's it! Before anyone tries to come at me...My stance on this is, I can't stand firm on whether it happened or not. I do believe a lot of odd shit happened between Michael and children (sleeping in bed together, etc.), which I blame the children's parents 100%. NO ONE should be letting that shit happen to their kids, famous or not. When you're a parent your job is to prioritize your child's safety above all.
* standing ovation *
Thank you, joe 🙏
As far as I know, Macaulay still hung out with MJ once he reached adulthood, as well as MJ’s daughter as a minimum after his passing
kai’s hoe I love your pic + name, that is amazing lol I love Kai 😂
why would MJ abuse someone famous, they will have the power and money to fight him back!? predators prey on the weak.
@@oraetlabora2612 Then explain Corey Feldman being sexually abuse at the height of his career.
He still hung out with Michael into adulthood. Michael made him Paris's godfather. Paris and Macaulay still hang out to this day. There's lots of videos of them joking around together and she has posts with him on her insta.
@@oraetlabora2612 Why wouldn't you fuck someone so cute and adorable if you were a predator? Ever watched home alone?
Even Michael's sister accused him of these things, stop thinking with your fan brain and use your common sense. Michael is still Michael-the king of pop, but that doesn't mean he is innocent of these crimes. As a female who has been molested as a child, it is hard to realise wtf happened to you and dealing with it. It takes years, sometimes a lifetime to accept. "He is dead, let the man rest " lol if these allegations are true, they have to live with it EVERYDAY for the rest of their lives so yea.
Mmmmarina
I 100% agree with you, I couldn’t have said it better myself!!! 👏🏻👏🏻
yea thats why literally the rest of his family said that is BS, they shunned her out of the family
Fucking idiots
If you knew She was forced to say this by her ex husband who was also her ex manger who was abuse . And also made her go on playboy . The Husband /Manger made her do all these things for money . All these things loatoya said don’t count as evidence and not credible at all
Actually a really good video, that had both sides!!!! Also love Kevonstage's vibe :) Fits right in
ilubnerds102
Lol i couldnt tell if steve was being serious. Seemed like just trolling to piss everyone off
@@supermachonacho5975 No I think he wanted to say even more. He was the only one who wasn't biased and saw through the bull shit.
Really? Defending pedophiles is a good thing?
@@matsah7607 well I don't agree with defending pedophiles at all but I just think that everyone had good perspective and research about the topic.
@@caitlinbrennan9039 Yeah no matter how you look at it, no grown ass man should be alone in a locked bedroom, sleeping with a little boy, in the same bed. I think he HAD to of at least fondled a kid or two. Some of his little kid 'friends' might defend him but Micheal Jackson was a very successful man with a lot to lose, he had to be selective with his victims.
This is exactly why people who have gone through these sort of things don't come out and say the truth immediately because no one believes you.
why did I gasp when I saw kev??
This was a really good episode and I appreciated the way you really considered both sides
In my opinion it was incredibly biased
Caitlin Brennan maybe my own biases made that harder to see
I’m glad joe did his research and didn’t listen 2 , 2 known liars 🤗🤗🤗🤗
Same
Nah
Kev from alldef!!! All we need is patrick and tahir so we can get a quick roast session 😭
Thank you for having Kev on here. He seemed very educated on the topic
People need to let him rest in peace
Nana Nimo he’s brainwashed just like Steve
How did they get KevonStage
Through Timmy
Yared refu I would’ve thought it was through Dumbfoundead
networking, friends
Jean P. Perez LA networking
Tim hooked them up.
Why aren't they coming after ELVIS PRESLEY who was courting & married Priscilla when she was young & underage?! Or WOODY ALLEN who raised & eventually married his adoptive daughter?! So many other (white) celebrities who aren't getting exposéd on 😒
Cause all of those dudes have already been exposed for what they are
They're not vilified plus Elvis' music is not stop being played across the world.
@@sundaze631 People separate art from the artist. Also who tf is actually still listening to Elvis on the regular
@@StarBoyKoto more than you think.
I didn't know about that DECADES after they were dead.
Fun fact, did you know Frank Sinatra had mob ties and wanted woody Allen dead? Shame that didn't happen
Michael Jackson’s legacy will never die ! We can’t let it !!
Check yrslf non existent.
Omgggg KEVonSTAGE!!!! 😍😍😍 He's hilarious!
Love that JK had this conversation, as a huge MJ fan, I was hoping they would.
pera nasha so you’re a fan of liars and fake news. There’s 0 proof
MJ is innocent
Joe is so passionate
Passion goes hand in hand with paranoia and delusions.
I’m always surprised no one mentions the interview done with Michael’s bodyguards. I suggest it as recommended watching for anyone looking to get other perspectives on Michael’s accusations. It’s all on UA-cam.
Damn Joe did do his homework like always.
@@altervee8603 that's you dumbass
@@altervee8603 and what are the facts
no he didn't
Yesss Kev is on heree and amen, to a long episode!
You have to look at it all. He has young kids sleep in his bed, with alarms to his room. He was only interested in young CUTE boys. When the boys aged he lost interest. Theres just too much for me to believe he never did anything. I mean a grown man. I understand he's messed up himself, but come on.
Honestly I kinda believe it. There is no reason for an adult man to be around children who are not his family. It's weird and just because some kids didn't get abused dose not mean that some weren't. Also if he was a smart predator he wouldn't go after extremely famous kids as Macaulay Culkin.
Victoria Silva the media got to you. You’re gullible
These were kids trying to make a career in entertainment. MJ was helping, that's not very odd when you consider facts. That's how Justin Bieber got famous, someone recognize his talent.
And if famous children were completely off the table then explain Corey Feldman.
@@JMysticStar7 I understand where you come from but the fact that these children were trying to be famous makes them vulnerable. They are not famous so if any allegations come out who would the public believe some kid or the King of Pop? Corey Feldman has stated that he was never abused by him. Which brings back my point that if he was smart he would not take advantage of an already famous child.
wow great content, I believe that was one of your best jknews video, so much passion and information. you shared a lot of people's concerns and emotion on the subject. BRAVO guys.
Woah they got kev??!!!
I’m soo conflicted on what to think after watching both this and H3’s video on it, both have good points
Yeah, but I think Joe makes more sense because Joe talks about the actual motives and doesn't just focus on the documentary itself.
DolliLoxz go watch the rageaholic s videos on this he explains it a lot better and more in-depth
H3 video is biased bull crap that ethan never researched on
@@opanpro9772 shut up Michael touched them all
Everybody talking about Michael when North Korea reactivated their nuclear missile facility. We need Dave Chappelle back.
KevonStage!? Let's get all the add cast members on here!
Great discussion...all of you made good points. Earned yourselves a new sub
Me clicking on this video: "I believe in you Joe"
Joe was coming through with the facts tho and btw I loved this debate because basically you shinned a perspective on every posibility pro or vs Jackson
What the fuck haha it was so biased i heard barely any support for the boys just for mi
Michael was definitely a weirdo no doubt about that lol
MJ will forever be a King
Check yrslf do your research, dipshit
yall got a big DUB for having Kev
the fbi investigated mj twice within the span of 13 years, not for 13 years. I am all for believing survivors, and while I admit that some of the accusers might be game chasers, these men are claiming that something horrible happened to them. While we should look for proof instead of believing blindly, a victims character should never be brought into question. It took me over 10 years to discover that I was assaulted because I had repressed memories. That very much could have happened in this case. I hadn’t even voluntarily kissed someone until I was 17 and even then I ended up ending things almost immediately because of anxiety, and I have no clue where that anxiety is coming from. The mind is not all conscious, and this is almost all victim blaming. Everyone is always wanting to blame the victim, and it honestly makes me upset. Think of how it would feel for something like this to happen. It’s horrific.
Imagine Tariq, kev, david, and steve all on one show😂tht would be hilarious😂
zayski U plus boze
I'm happy you guys brought KevOnStage.
MY EYES MUST BE DECEIVING ME! Kevonstage?
I am SO GLAD you had a lengthy discussion about this and shared all your thoughts and perspective. Tbh I don't really know what to think about this whole situation because I do know that mainstream media is so manipulative and that ppl are def taking advantage of the situation. So it's great that you put so many more information and perspectives into this! This is what I love about JKNews!
heyhuong Yeah the media are definitely in cahoots together with this story. I find it funny that at the same time this documentary airs, Harvey Weinstein had a court date. Oprah and Harvey are friends. Harvey also had a documentary come out at Sundance, but you don’t hear anything about that do you? Harvey was also known to paid gossip columnists to push stories that would take heat off of him during certain times in his career
Tosh La oh really? I’m not from the US, so I mainly hear about major things like this. 🙂 It’s crazy how manipulative the media is and whatever I read/listen to I do it carefully...kinda sad.
heyhuong Yeah the media really dropped the ball on this case. They should be ashamed. I can count on one hand the number of journalists who have actually questioned the allegations
@@toshla4871 oh wow, interesting! That's what I like so much about JKNews because it's different personalities coming together and having a healthy discussion :) idk what to think about all this. I just wanna focus on myself and being the best decent human I can be and hope to have a positive impact on others. That's all, cause thinking too much about this won't give me an answer anyway...
clearly ppl watching/commenting aren't doing their own hw n believing everything joe said. i appreciate the thoughtful discussion but a lot of what joe claims as facts are just as much facts as what wade/james can claim. its all he said/she said. the character smear of wade fr brandi jackson could/could not be true.. its all her account. can someone else verify everything she said? e.g. joe talked abt wade breaking up JT/britney as if it was confirmed but this is only alleged by brandi jackson. i also find it interesting that joe didn't have much input on the grooming. oprah's interview was mostly focused on grooming and her pt was that a lot of ppl can go into adulthood not realizing that they were abused and protect their perp out of fear/love, and a victim is a victim if molestation occurred regardless of their motivations for bringing their case to light later in life.
Idk give a single fuck.....I'm never canceling Michael Jackson!!!!! Period.
Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyye JK&KEV!!! OHMYGOSH!!!! I FREAKIN LOVE THIS! I’m so excited! My heart is too filled with joy!
joe spitting straights facts and knowledge
please make more 25 min videos.
I know Joe has done his research on Mj but I feel like he's doing research on what he wants to hear. Of course if you look up things that are defending Mj there are going to be a lot that comes up.
Lucy Hathaway He presented facts unlike this documentary. You can’t base your opinions solely on this documentary, but then get mad when someone gives evidence that contradicts Wade’s and James’ narrative
I’m not mad. Joe is just one of the biggest fans of mj on earth, and he’s presenting his “facts” in a one sided manner in my opinion.
Lucy Hathaway and what would you say about the documentary? He is just giving a rebuttal to the doc
YOOOO UTS KEVONSTAGE THIS IS HYYYYPPEE
Omg. you got KevOnStage. I am so happy.
This all episode is like watching "12 angry men" as if it was produced by TMZ
One of the best features so far imo, I love Kev on ADD and he fit in on so well on here!
You guys should try to keep him as a regular.
THANK YOU JOE FOR DEFENDING!
Just saw "(ft. Kev" on the preview of my UA-cam feed. Wasn't expecting it to be KevOnStage. Hahah. So dope.
Yo never thought I'd see my boy KevOnStage on here! Didn't think you guys knew of each other lol
This was golden. Happy to KevOnStage on JK news
KEVONSTAGE?! THIS IS A DREAM COME TRUE
Have Kevonstage on more!!
Bart the type of guy to forget he has a son called Taika 😂😂😂😂
dpolww dw he didn't forget him Bart just words things differently and it comes out inaccurate
Great in-depth discussion. I didn't want it to end. Thank you guys for this.
Good job Joe. Glad someone did their research
one of the best episodes you've done
ADD + JKN??? i ship it. its like avengers team up
Under no circumstance should an ADULT sleep with children. This alone is a huge red flag...
How the hell did you guys get KevOnStage here? This is awesome!
YO KEV! I'm so hype to see him on here! This is the video I needed!
That was very ignorant of Geo to watch the first 10 minutes and then just assume she knows what’s going on. Be more intelligent
not really this is just been going on for years and people get tired of hearing this bullshit over and over again the man is dead and there's nothing you can do about it now I only watch the first 5 minutes and give no fuks to see their rest.
oChungAttack excuse yourself
Geo doesn’t owe nothing
This is a show where friends are chopping it up and having a conversation.
When you are with your group of friends, guaranteed you or some friends in your group won’t know the whole story but will comment on it because that’s how a conversation goes.
This isn’t the View, this isn’t a news show
Why you singling out Geo when you know Bart didn’t see the full thing either.
Y’ALLL GOT KEVONSTAGE!!!!!!!!!!😂😂👏🏾
Yall finally have KevOnStage 😢
Let the poor man rest.
I love how shook we are that Kev is on here
I did not expect Kev on here. That’s awesome!
Black guys got it tough right now.... Bill Cosby, Jesse Smollette, R Kelly, Micheal Jackson.
pera nasha Not for the black guys that aren’t famous 🤷🏿♂️
wee een Shut up you suck at trolling
I love kevonstage!! I was not expecting this collab!
Woahhh KevOnStage on JKN🤩
A money grab. What a shocker
Enjoyable talk! like all the arguments.
Dam. Joe went into lawyer mode as soon as he hear Michael Jackson’s name.
Man after Michael Jackson, R Kelly and bill Cosby I’m almost ready to just agree that my childhood was a lie.
Steve and the new guy was the only one who was using logic lol. Everyone else was biased as hell.
Rose takayanagi using logic after a bullshit doc came out. Yeah sure
WOOOW the collab we never knew we needed!!! Love this so much!!!
My mom is a child psychologist and has had clients who have been sexually abused and she said after watching the documentary that their stories are credible and make sense. You guys don’t have any experience or expertise to determine what a sexual abuse survivor does and experience. I used to love JK but now I don’t want to watch anymore...
yasssssss, been waiting for video!