Shooting Moving Timelapses with edelkrone
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- Опубліковано 16 лип 2024
- Patrick Hall of Fstoppers tries out the edelkrone Motion Kit and creates a moving timelapse using the Panasonic GH5s.
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This is far the most complete 3/4-axis slider I've seen. Many pan and tilt heads suffer from parallax effects because of horrible design choices, this gives a nice option to center your camera and minimize this effect. And the option to use your hands and set the in/out points is sooo smart! :D Great review, cheers!
If you add the laser to the HeadPLUS you can get even more targeting control.
That was the greatest coverage of the Edelkrone Slider Plus and HeadPlus units. Additionally, I learned so much from your beautiful explanation of the final time lapses. Thank you very much! :) And, of course, I’ve subscribed, with notifications.
I had the pleasure of being able to work with one of these and a R3D rig... loved it... well built and super customizable...
Great review! Thanks for sharing your insights!
these slider systems are amazing. 😎
Ok... I admit... I am sold. I like modular and unique angling. This is amazing
Fstoppers, Thank you very much for making this video.
Awesome man!
So dope 🔥🔥🔥
We have the full slider pro bundle. Our needs were photographing car interiors in video. So far the system does an excellent job. Using a Canon 5D for test the results look beautiful. The next step, waiting for our Zcam E2S6 using CP Zeiss lenses. Going to be a great year 2020. We found a reasonable tripod that starts out very low and extends to about 5 feet high. Need to be mindful of balance, and always have the legs set to carry the extension left/right.
I just want more Ritz Camera stories.
I bought this setup about a month ago and it's amazing I love it
Okay this convinced me to buy this product thx! Very straight forward!
I absolutely loved your portrayal of Deacon in What We Do in the Shadows. Hilarious.
Oh man, that was another lifetime! Lots of fun but so glad I left that job -P
That time lapse at the end is the reason why i returned my gh5, there is so much noise when you do long exposure at night time with that camera.
Yeah it's not as good as a DSLR but unfortunately we recently destroyed our D850 otherwise I would have used it. -P
Great video! This was definitely in Puerto Rico, I recognize my island from the moon :D
So useful
Thanks MAN for sharing
I think the laser target is a great feature. Otherwise there are a number of alternatives to also consider, like from Syrp, and C-Pan Arm, not to mention the Moza Slypod combined with the Moza Air 2.
Thx for this Video
What tripod did you use that was able to handle the weight of that set up fully extended? Great video.
Vrery good review
Nice One!
Cool video
I like it but I have 1 questions, when I do time lapse especially of the stars u want the camera completely stop so that u can do that long exposure then the slider can move again repeated action, Can this slider stop then continue to say 10 seconds exposure stop take picture move stop take picture move if u notice your stars were not sharp, what's your take on this
Awesome review a lot of effort put in to it. Can you tell us witch tripod I use to hold all the kit? Do you see any bending problems at the edge of the slider because the weight?
I really like this system for the studio. The rolling dolly is just crazy. The focus motor can be used on the zoom ring too. For remote landscape work, I prefer the Syrp system. It's Genie 2 is much smaller and lighter for a backpack with the ability to have a longer slider. Still, the Edelkrone system is more comprehensive. Great for studio and even remote use. Plus look at the whole system, very flexible. If you primarily do remote landscape and weight is a concern, there are smaller systems.
I've never used the Syrp but I agree that this thing is really useful in the studio esp for product shots and interviews. -P
I tested edelkrone and unhappy with that lost a lot of time an money, now time for Syrp sytem for me...
For Studio the Rhino Arc 2 looks awesome. You don't need a smart phone and you can use large gear. For pure mobility, the Syrp was built for it. Edelkrone splits the two and personally I think the slider is the weakest link, but the dollies look great.
@@rogerhuston8287 I want to try crane lab as well, just for motion time lapse...I totally agree edelkrone slider is not good enough specially at sight...At the mountain you need stable equipment with long battery life...
Probably a load of comments already on this... the the plural of axis although spelt axes, is pronounced ax-ees. Well it is in the UK anyway.
Same in the US.
For when you did the night time lapse, did you have to bolt your tripod down so the whole system didn’t sag at the end of the slide?
Great video! Thanks for sharing! I am motivated to but this unit! However question on your timelapses, your shutter speed was 5 sec and I could see star trails… is 5 sec a long enough shutter speed?
Got the Big Head (Silicon Valley) vibes going on with that hair do :). Great video!
I went with a kessler system that is a bit more heavy duty, but it's such a pain in the ass to use because of the weight. If you're a running gunning person, I think Edelkrone is a bit better. If you have a team to manage equipment, Kessler is okay but seems like it needs updating as well. Patrick - how come you didn't use the focus rig?
The focus rig didn't work with our Panasonic lenses. I explained it in the video, they are focus by wire and everytime you turn off the camera the focus position is reset. -P
Great video BUT the last trhee slinks abvoe point to the HeadPlus and NOT what you emant them to! Please fix!
Nice rig, lots of possibilities. Have you ever used the Syrp Genie and Magic Carpet slider?
Yep, Syrp here Genie rules. Fstoppers should try out the Genie2 also.
Syrp slider generation 1 are terrible. The pan and tilt units have 4-5 degrees of play in the gears... App is rarely updated and lacks many basic features. Always loses connections and doesn't't always work. Generation 2 is better but the pan/tilt head has terrible parallax (the unwanted kind) for tilt axis... Better off with the nice ifootage shark mini slider for a better price or go edelkrone
Great video, thanks. What backpack/bag is that in the video?
I'm not sure what they used in their promo video but I'm using the ThinkTank Streetwalker. -P
hey i just bought the slider one, was shooting some timelapse stuff and i recognised lot of shaking when the slider was moving. Is there a setting that i miss while using the timelapse mode or is it because that set up is so heavy for a tripod?
You have to make sure to set the stay time of the slider with your shutter speed. You need to give appx. 2 seconds between the movement and shot.
What was the cost of the full set up ya'll were using there? I've been looking at the Edekrone offerings for a bit, and looks interesting.
I believe this particular kit is around $3500 but each individual component adds up to about $4,000. -P
Time to review the V2 version of this Headplus unit!👍🏽
Waaaaw....😍😍😘👍
Fantastic review even though we are not the least bit interested in the product. That said, the company picked the right people to review their gear. Had we wanted this equipment I bet we would of placed the order 3/4 of the way into the review.
Thanks for the kind words. We try to review as much gear as we can especially if it's interesting and useful. -P
How much it is?
checked the brand yesterday out.. sadly too expensive for me right now. guess i have to code my own thing with raspberry pi
I wanted an edelkrone for the longest time, but it is just far too pricey : (
It use to be affordable, they even marketed earlier as "an affordable option". Not anymore.
when you take a long exposure while the camera is moving, how does it not have any motion blur?
It will have motion blur but because my shutter was only 5 seconds, the blur is very small especially with a wide angle lens. If you want perfectly crisp images, you need to use the timelapse function which will allow the Head unit to fire your camera every time it stops and then it will continue to move and then take another steady shot. -P
@@FStoppers understood, thank you
But doesn’t a 5 sec exposure with a moving camera cause blur or trails?
It does but the camera is moving sooo slowly. If you are making a timelapse it's not the end of the world but if you want to use the photos as stills then yes they are slightly blurred. I was going for convenience of making a timelapse in camera vs making the sharpest timelapse that required 60 mins instead of 30. -P
Fstoppers ok, thanks for the response
I read the product description carefully. I want to buy the product according to your explanation. I want to upload a video of me drawing on the rail and take a video.좋아요791
Expen$$$$ive and sub-par equipment. Cool review.
The announcement from iFootage of their US$500 system seems to have possibly prompted Edelkrone to do a big push promoting their (admittedly more extensive, but much more expensive) multi-axis system...
Which one? Their S1A3 system is still $2500 and doesn't have the focus ability. -P
Fstoppers “Shark Slider Nano”. They showed it at NAB and expected to ship it around August IIRC. Slide and pan only, so this edelkrone system can be expanded to do a lot more, but the iFootage is at a much lower price point.
Does it have a AR15 mount?
Only AK mounts -P
@@FStoppers you had to know mounting the laser in the intro......some sort of Skynet flashback lol.
Patrick, the Olympus PRO lens for MFT have have hard stops...do you think it will be compatible with the focus motor?
If it has hard stops then it should be. The issue we had with our Panasonic lenses was if you turned the camera off, the focus range was reset too. We couldn't calibrate our lenses without the clamp that holds the geared bands hitting the motor. -P
@@FStoppers Press [ MENU ] → [ Custom ] →[ Lens/Others ] → [ Lens Position Resume ] This allows you to keep the lens focus position when you turn it on and off.
Kick a$$!
Axe-ease
and you can have the complete package for 6,789.00 USD !!!! bullocks!!! GVM makes equipment that does pretty much the same movements, except for tilts, but for only 400 CAD.................I bought one of Edelkrone's first sliders, cost me a fortune and I could never get a smooth pull or push, especially when trying to use the complete length of the slider.....once it hit the center point, I would always get some shudder in my footage......
LOL, I use the GVM for a B-cam in interviews and it's great for motorized slides. The manual 'panning' option is hit and miss and takes a lot of trial and error in practise, although it gives good results when eventually set. I also own the sliderONE v2 and 2 headONE's. The 2 systems aren't even comparable. The edelkrone is absolutely incredible, it takes 30 seconds to setup initially, and all changes after that are instant. There is no messing around with a 'panning rod', no constant adjustments to keep my subject centred, no having to have 2 tripods perfectly level at each end. Every single movement is repeatable 1000 times, making VFX a dream. It really does allow the only limit to your shots your imagination. It's a case of getting what you pay for. The GVM is great for what it is, but the edelkrone is lightyears ahead of it in both options, ease of use and quality,
18:57 grubby lens
I mean this endearingly..not as blunt as it came across...
That setup costs more than my car!!
Mostly for the head though. You can replace that head with two of the HeadONE Modules and a tilt mit, that makes it MUCH cheaper and has almost the same motion.
He didn't go into why you would use the laser module too deeply, because that module together with the focus kit gets you the possibility to focus the camera and keep the same object you are tracking in the shot. Pretty amazing, but only useful if you are really into tracking an either moving object through a shot or doing a shot with a telephoto lens on the object.
For everything else, you don't need the HeadPLUS, you can use the HeadONE and it gets much more affordable.
Man that kit is expensive !!!!! Like 3K for everything you have in video.......
More like 5
$3500 to be exact. -P
that's how much decent sliders cost. They are good if you do interviews and timelapses.
you can make basic sliders for next to nothing and if you are willing to put in the time and a bit more money you can make it motorised, lots of videos of different types
TheTomm101 yes, but not like this
Looks like a great rig, but was I the only one who cringed at the "balancing" of the camera atop of that tiny pedestal on the HeadPLUS module? I imagine many cameras are going to take a dive onto a hard surface with that method.
That's what hands are for :) -P
Devices has connection issue, and unstable ! you can not use with your pro work, must connect your camera with cable even that cable is low quality, when I use once than cable has connection issue :) battery drain is awfull. Also app needs time...Worst thing is customer relation :) Can not answer, I remember one of Lee video with customer problem than he make a video after that everything solved. What I feel like that with this company.
time lapse long exposure, requiere funtion shot move shot...no used you time lapse
Why would you make a review, in studio, with gear that’s not compatible? A table top tripods the best you could do....really? With all the cameras and lenses you have, you choose ones that aren’t compatible . Tell us it has so many parts yet ‘oh we’ll not actually cover it in this video...’ 💩
The tabletop tripod was just to show how it worked without having a massive tripod on the table. As for the cameras/lenses, we don't own any lenses that work with the focus for the GH5. Our Nikon camera was recently destroyed by a wave. -P
Fstoppers I just don’t think you could realistically show how it worked with a tripod in studio by offering up that table top tripod that couldn’t cope and toppled.
@@FStoppers Send it to Taiwan, to NIkon Repair services. They will probably repair, since the official Nikon services usually argue that seawater damage is too expensive to fix.
@@FStoppers Yeah that was pretty lazy...how many tripods do you have around? And yeah table top setups are so nice but not if your equipment doesn't work on them. Kinda short changed Edelkrone with that decision imho, but I appreciate the video. Have a bit of FOMO on this system.
What a fucking crybaby, bro go take a nap
Why is every video an ad 🤦🏻♂️
because that's their work!
This was a review of the product. If you don't want us reviewing products, what type of content do you want us to produce? -P
It's a product review which by definition is also an advert.
The alternative is a 2 minute video where they show you an amazing timelapse they've made but don't show you how they produced it.
You'd probably then complain about how every video doesn't show you how to do stuff. 😕
The original action module of the edelkrone was so loud that you can hear it from another room with all the doors shut. It sounded like an industrial copy machine.
This unit def wasn't very loud at all so I'm glad to hear they fixed that. -P
want one but cant justify the price... i think this is wayyyy over priced
What do you think it should be priced at out of curiosity? -P
$500 for just the slider, ouch.
I mean, aren't most sliders around that price? And this slider has the most innovative design of any of them. I've owned many many $100-$250 sliders and they always disappointed me. -P
A bargain at four grand!
lol
You can always get this: www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1313681-REG/vinten_v5010_fe_track_dolly_and_robotic.html -P
Rather get a Syrp.
Why? The minis have horrible gear play, produces loads of noises, the second generation of pan head have horrible parallaxes. This is expensive yes but it gives you loads of flexibility. Syrp is a small company and never gives their customers what they want... I own genie 1 and mini and it is so overpriced and lacks many basic features. If you see Edelkrone's full review of the laser features (which gives variable pan-speeds to account for parallax which no Syrp product can do whatsoever) and the tap to change target you will know why you should get that instead!
And all this for 300 quintillion dollars! Such a bargain!