Sigma MC-21 EF to L mount converter/adapter review - does it work?
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- Опубліковано 3 тра 2019
- The Sigma MC-21 converter/adapter allows you to use the Canon EF mount lenses on your L-Mount cameras. Autofocus, Auto exposure, EXIF are all supported but does it really work?
In this review I'll show you the results I got after testing it with a few different EF lenses, from both Sigma and Canon.
Special Thanks to Auckland Camera Centre for helping with the making of this video!
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The man freely giving some valuable information. Thanks.
As always, thank you for the video and taking the time out to post a video for those who may be interested in this adapter and canon lens,. Me personally, I went with the mc-21 for the SA mount only because I picked up an 85mm 1.4 Art lens for $600 (no tax) in the SA mount. I know that's a very good lens and the SA MC-21 mount adapter is much cheaper. I have the adapter already, just waiting for the Lens from Adoroma, which should be here on Monday. I will be using it on the my S1R.
Again I was not planning on using the adapte, as I have the native 24-105 and the awesome S 50mm F1.4 Pro, it's was only because I got a top rated used lens for such a good price.
Great video and thanks for your time and effort, I really like when you post stuff about the S Series, they have been very useful to me and I'm sure to others as well.
Kind Regards
PS dpreview sent me here.
hi mcsey2k1, yes one advantage of MC-21 is that it opens up opportunity to shoot with some cheaper lenses from another lens mount! Especially the second hand one.
Thanks for watching my videos and there will surely be more S series contents coming VERY soon :)
Excellent review and presentation.👍🏽
Thank you Per Nicolaisen
I've been waiting for this test Richard - thanks! I would love to see the test with some other 3rd party ef lenses like those from Yongnuo/Samyang or Rokinon.
If I have a chance I will do that!
I tested my Canon 24-70mm f2.8 + MC-21 on Lumix S1 today. Auto focus is acceptable to me. However, LED on MC-21 is off. Is that normal for non Sigma Lens ?
I have used this on SL2 for canon 50/1.2L. AFS is slow but works somehow. I use it manually instead and apart from the annoyance of being shown an aperture of 1.3 at best in exit, it is a beautiful experience. Recommended.
Brilliant Rich! Just switching to S1 and found your videos so useful. L-mount lenses’ selection is still poor and those glasses are so pricy. However, need some workable autofocus for my footage and your video clarified major issues :) thanks man!
Glad my video helps :) there are more l mount lenses coming very soon!!
Hello
Can I ask you? - It is possible to use lenses from "Samyang Cinema - EF mount, without any problems with this Leica Adapter?- Problems like: crop factor or vignetting?
How does the auto focus perform in s5 II X with canon Ef 70-200 f 2.8 L using this adaptor.
Answered most of my questions. Although it mig(t have improved since your review, so I’ll use your video as worst case.
Thanks, a very helpful review. I'm very much considering switching from Canon (old 6D) to Panasonic's new S5, and this converter seems the way to go to use my L lenses in the short term. Regards, Craig
Glad it was helpful!
Richard Im curious, are the compatibility issues with canon ef lenses the same between S1 and S1R? I rented the S1 a last week and tried some of my Canon ef lenses. They all worked. It was a little slow for focus but nothing crazy. The worst one was with my 85mm 1.8 ultrasonic version. It took it I would 4 tries to focus. Also these are some features greyes out like in time lapse mode u can only use exposure leveling in A, P and S mode. Not manual. Bracketing also doesnt work.
Hi train and more trains, The S1 and s1r should be very similar. Yes some features is not available like continuous focus.
Nice video, thanks for the work. Just wondering if this adaptor works with EF-S lens like canon 10-18mm zoom ?
Hi Joe, I have not tried it myself but I am quite sure it works well, apart from the fact those lenses won't cover the full image circle of the full frame sensor
Does te manual focus work?
Have you tried the Sigma teleconverters with this? I'm seeing an consistent issue on the S1R when using MC-21, and TC-1401/2001 with good Sigma lenses. It drops to APS-C mode and that makes it take 20MP pictures, which negates the entire point of having a teleconverter. Furthermore, it also disables High Res mode, and due to dropping to only 20MP, it even disables 6K Photo mode :( Any tricks, or have you heard anything from Panasonic/Sigma about fixing this?
No. Sorry I haven't.
Does the adapter and adapted lens work better with the 1.2 firmware update?
Wondering this myself
Does anyone have a human portrait full res jpeg shot with the S1H? Trying to see the photo quality of this cam. Thanks!
I have the MC-21 set up with my 17-40 f4 and just happened to notice Post Focus is not available to be set. Is this due to the adapter? Also, do some lenses work even though they don’t light up the LED on adapter?
I don't know to be honest I rarely use postfocus but possibly due to the fact the autofocus is too slow to capture all the required photos for postfocus?
Sorry also not sure about what happens if light not light up, I guess you can give it a try and see? :)
Today I got to test the MC-21 adapter on a S1R with: Canon 85 1.2L, Sigma ART 35mm, 50mm and the Bokehmaster 105mm 1.4. I'm sorry to say for anyone that's interested that the focus was horrible.. Not even close to what can be called acceptable.
It was a lot of hunting, pictures out of focus when taking shots at objects with good contrast etc. Compared to my Canon IV it's like going from a Ferrari to a Fiat 500. Its not even close.. Too bad as I had so high expectations for this camera and wanted to get one.
I did not expect it to be perfect by any means but the Sony MC-11 adapter is a huge improvement.
The Sigma MC-11 for Sony started the same way... Did you upgrade the lens firmware of the Sigma ART lenses?
@@ebreckpo6563 yes all my Sigma have the latest FW. My tests show the same performance as shown in other tests starting to appear on YT :(
@@peterh1790 At least I do not have to borrow a Sigma lens for testing as the Af performance is as bad as with Canon branded glass.
Hi Richard, thanks for this video. Have you tried the Sigma ef lenses and if so, how do they compare to the canon ef lenses on the S1/S1H for af? I would hope it would be faster.
Definitely faster with the sigma EF lenses compare to the canon EF lenses. Single AF focus performance is quite decent with the sigma EF lenses
Hi Richard, thanks for the confirmation!
Hello Richard, please i was wondering if i can use the Sigma MC-21 EF to L mount converter/adapter with a sigma 18-35mm lens on the lumix S1H full frame mode without vignetting ?
I haven't try it myself. It the sigma is a apsc lens so it should have quite a lot of vignetting or even complete dark corners
Hi Richard, I use the mc11 with Sony A73 and the Sigma 18-35. It automatically switches over to super 35 so there’s no vignetting.
I believe the Pana S1H should work the same.
I have a specific question: Can u change the shutter type to EFC when ONLY the SIgma MC-21 is attached to the camera without an additional lense ?
Sorry I don't have the adaptor with me anymore to try it out
I have S5 and canon 1.4 50 ef lens, wondering continous auto focus gonna work while recording video?
It's been a while, but from memory continous autofocus doesn't work
Great review Richard, I am currently using Sigma MC11 adapter for my Sony A73 for EF-FE. Autofocus for photo works great on peope/faces, however the AF is not as good when you are trying to shoot subjects as it starts to hunt a little. It could be due to the AF system of Sony, but when I am using the native Sony lens, it doesn't have this problem. In saying so, its still a great item to have when you have a mixed lens system.
Hey Andy, thanks!! Have you switched to team Sony 100% now? Or still 50/50 Canon/Sony? Yeah i guess adapters are never going to 100% as good as native, but as you said, it's quite handy when you already have lenses from another system, or there is a lens that is not available natively on a new system!
Almost full Sony for me now, loving the dynamic range of the camera. If the S1 weren,t so heavy with limited selection of lens for now, S1 would be my choice.
Lens selection will be much better in 12 months time! Just in time for your next camera upgrade! Haha
@@TheRealRichardWong Sony A7S III by then :)
Hahaha !
Very thorough and clear review, but I wonder if it also supports the image stabilization of EF lenses, or is that a bridge too far?
Image stabilization should work!
Did you find a good lens for that btw? I’m interested because I have a sigma fp which has no stabilisation
Thanks for the video, could you tell me if it works with the panasonic lumix S5?
I havent try it myself but it should
Sir, can I use Zeiss CP2 Ef lenses with this adaptor? Cp2 lenses are manual.
I haven't test it sorry can't answer your question.
You can technically mount any EF lens to this adapter. Certain functionality might not electronically translate over but it will mount. You should have no issues if everything is manual
If you ever have a chance to talk to Sigma Rep, can you ask them when will they have AF-C support for Sigma MC-21? Thank you
Sure! I think it's something a lot of people want.
Richard Wong I really appreciate it everything you do regarding the Panasonic S1. Really useful stuff. Always like your videos
The MC-21 dose not have a USB port and there are no Sigma L mount USB lens docs yet so there is currently no way to update the MC-21.
It might not be the converter that needs an update, Panasonic might be able to update the camera to open up AF-C.
As for lens AF speed, these lens are designed for DSLRs so will not match the speed of a lens designed specifically for Mirrorless as both are optimised to focus in different ways (mirrorless lens tend to have smaller/lighter focus groups and motors optimised for small rapid changes in direction).
They could possibly improve speed a bit with camera and lens updates though.
@@PaulMonaghan Feel free to be more optimistic, the FE mount Sigma ART lenses autofocus very fast. I expect L mount Sigma ART lenses would perform the same.
@@shang-hsienyang1284 I hope so but since Sony uses PDAF that has an advantage using lens designed for PDAF.
Still I'm using SA mount lens just now and I'm happy with the autofocus for what I shoot :).
I am very optimistic about this L mount alliance :), its early days and some time is needed to optimise everything :)
How does auto focus work with Sigma Art Lenses in Video? I have a MC-11 with a Sony A7R II body and the auto focus in video with my 35mm f/1.4 Art is very fast. It would be dissapointing if there is no auto focus without hitting shutter with MC-21 Adapter. Thank you if you can answer my question!
And of course on Panasonic it is also a Contrast AF so it will be slower, but want to know if the Art lenses have any form of AF in video without shutter click.
No continuous AF during video recording, at least not with current firmware
Did you use the MC-21 Sigma SA to L mount or the MC-21 Canon EF to L mount adapter in this video? I am wondering if the Sigma SA to L mount will also work with Canon EF lenses, since it's a lot cheaper.
Hi Sam, I used EF to L mount adaptor as the title said :). The Sigma SA is a completely different mount
@@TheRealRichardWong Thanks for your answer. I just noticed I asked the question wrong XD.
What I wanted to ask is if you used the Adapter specifically for Sigma Canon EF lenses or the one meant for Canon lenses. There appear to be two diffrent models of the same adapter, one for Sigma lenses with EF mount and one for Canon and I am wondering if the Sigma one will work with canon lenses since it's technically the same EF mount.
Sorry for the confusion :)
Looking at the S1H, but I have all Canon EF lenses. I also need AF for video use.
How does it AF? Is it reliable?
Special Thanks to Auckland Camera Centre for helping with the making of this video!
Very friendly and knowledgable staff and great prices for all your camera gears!
aucklandcamera.co.nz
How do you set auto focus and shooting when touching on screen?
There is a setting that allows you to tap to autofocus + shoot. It's accessible from the right side of the touchscreen menu from memory
Richard Wong thank you. I see it.
Will this converter work on SL2 camera?
In theory yes. But I haven't try it myself to confirm. Maybe some else can verify
Hi!))
I understand that autofocus does not work on the eyes?
Correct
Will this work with the new leica sl2.
Sorry I have not tested it myself so can't answer
I'm considering this because as of April 2021 there is still no 'affordable' Panasonic 50mm or 35mm f1.8! I'm not exactly enthralled with L mount progress.
Just wait a little bit more .. almost there :)
Does it allow to use the full sensor, or it turns camera into apcs?
Full sensor
@@TheRealRichardWong thank you, this is amazing!
You should checkout my Lumix s5ii review, the performance with the mc21 is significantly improved and I showed some results there
@@TheRealRichardWong thank you, I will. I too intend to use it with s5ii
this adapter does not work on the Leica SL1 so much for your alliance.
Sigma MC-21 EF to L adapter causes aperture to change depending on how close or far you are focussing on the Canon EF 100mm f2.8 L Macro IS USM lens. Very frustrating☹
Does it actually change the actual physical aperture size? (I.e. do you see the aperture hole decrease in size) Or the size of the aperture hole doesn't change, it is just the aperture size reported by the camera change as you change focus to macro? If later, this is unavoidable because the effective focal length increases when you taking macro photos, and therefore the effective aperture size also changes.
I believe not all cameras report the effective aperture correctly on the display so you may not notice this with some cameras
@@TheRealRichardWong both the reported iris and actual aperture changes. it gets darker on close focus, also dismounted the lens when the camera is on and it showed the blade closed.
@@simonc4764 What you are describing (gets darker when close focus) appears to be the result of effective aperture becomes smaller when focus distance is smaller. For a 1x f/2.8 macro lens, usually the effective aperture would change from f/2.8 at infinity focus to f/5.6 at 1:1 macro focus.
Do you actually see the size of the aperture hole change (smaller) when you change focus distance to macro? If not it is just the result of effective aperture
@@TheRealRichardWong Aperture closing down get darker. This lens does not do that with native EF mount camera bodies, just with this Sigma MC-21 adapter.
@@simonc4764 hey Simon, are you saying you can see the aperture hole size become physically smaller as you change focus to closer? Sorry I'm still trying to understand if this is what you are seeing, as I don't have a EF macro lens to test myself .
I'm still assuming what you are seeing the result of effective aperture changes as your focus close, which affects every single lens and camera. (search "effective aperture" on this page to read a bit more)
www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-RF-100mm-F2.8-L-Macro-IS-USM-Lens.aspx
Sigma 50mm is slow like turtle 🐢 with adapter. Panasonic 50mm is fast like Ninja 😀
So together they are Ninja Turtle?
Lol 😂 Good One!
Lol 😂 Good One!
And the Panasonic costs 3 times more...
From what i've seen, canon glass on Sony bodies focus a lot faster than on the Panasonic's.
Both Sony and Canon lenses are optimized to work with PDAF. Control signals from a CDAF controller (Panasonic) don't translate very well to lenses optimized for PDAF. (It's a limitation of the adapter. Sophisticated adapters would do a better job but would likely be very expensive)
@@DoubleGauss Ah right.
Leica is probably tolerating Sigma lenses on their cameras, but draws the line at Canon lenses in their camera bodies 😂
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Does it work with porn photography?