Gobbledigook: White Dwarf's Horrible Little Goblin - Codex Compliant
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- Just a weird little guy.
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If I had a nickel for every goblin themed Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact joke I've heard, I'd have one nickel. But it's a pretty nice nickel.
Frankly, it's weird that it happened even once, but it's not like I'm gonna complain.
That's a freaking great joke
I feel like a few ork players are now going to make sure that it's not the last time.
I really enjoy how punk early White Dwarf/GW was. Just the worlds apart from the highly controlled aesthetic it is nowadays.
I miss old gw.
Old school GW felt like a company where you’d see big black vans with airbrushed wizards and dragons painted on the sides in the parking lot. Today’s GW feels like a company where it’s just BMW’s and Lexuses in the parking lot.
Check the cover of White Dwarf 96 - just BURSTING with energy, and the big 3 games (WFB, 40K, and WFRP) logos in strong red + yellow right up front. Looks like an issue of Kerrang!
"Molotov-RibbenGrot Pact" is the exact sort of high-quallity trash that keeps me coming back to this channel. Thank you.
EDIT: also, putting all the comics you could find in a single location for anyone you look at and linking it to us is uttery wholesome. Thank you.
*imagine someone explaining why a goblin is wearing a specific brand of shoes*
Not going to lie, I was low key obsessed with Gobbldigook when I was a kid and the phrase “A six! A six! Down the hole he must go” lives rent free in my head. It pops up every time I go into our stockroom.
I need you guys to cover the months-long political flame war in the White Dwarf letters columns over a Cold War boardgame, The Price of Freedom. It was roughly in the year prior to Rogue Trader’s release.
yes!
That Molotov-Ribbengrot joke is on point. Bravo Wib! 🥳
Hmmm I have been a subscriber for a while …. I think I’m done. Be well best wishes bye bye.
Gotta admit, it made me laugh!
@@MrJara1018 this isn't an airport, no need to announce your departure.
Well, now you just have to make an episode about Thrud the Barbarian :) I haven't seen him in White Dwarf but it was translated and reprinted in the early issues of the first Polish RPG magazine "Magia i Miecz" in the mid 90's.
I'm old enough to remember when White Dwarf started running Gobbledigook, Thrud the Barbarian & The Travellers! White Dwarf in the 70s & 80s, was a very different magazine from it's current incarnation. It was my main RPG 'fix' when I was a teenager, providing a cheap source of scenarios & monsters, when compared to the price of official AD&D materials.
Also, thank you for compiling the various strips into a collection. It's time for this old git to take a trip down memory lane! 👍
Thrud was awesome.
They should make another Gobbledigook model, id get him a heartbeat
I agree. They remade the Red Gobbo. So Gobbledigook would be a good idea to have.
The voice acting makes it way funnier.
Molotov-Ribbengrot is a high quality joke.
"You gotta kum!" famous snotling warcry
It's certainly got that same confusing structure that Viz comics from that era have
Does anyone else get a really solid early webcomic vibe from Gobbledigook? Like not being particularly funny, most of the punchlines are violence, and most of the appeal is that it's a comic about something from nerd culture (hence why Gobbledigook visits Games Workshop at one point).
Same vibes.
My first thought on seeing "Niibl" was, that's the Dust Puppy from User Friendly. I feel old now.
But does it have loss
@@IdioticSynergy It definitely pre-dates loss, although I'm sure if someone looked hard enough they'd claim a reference. I believe that UF was the first webcomic that allowed its author to earn a living from it
@@kayana9270 Lol I know, I was just trying to do a daft joke
I'm gonna take a wild guess that the panels became more and more indecipherable because the title was Gobbledigook. That sounds like a British joke to me.
You should be proud of that joke, Wib.
Speaking of “slur issues”; There was an issue of white dwarf (I wanna say around 242, when Codex Catachans) came out, where the editorial team - under Paul Sawyer - at the time, had to apologise for using the self same slur in a previous issues as they had “thought it was just a slang term for bad guys” which felt weak even when I read it as a ~13 year old
Video was awesome :)
Would luv to see u cover ‘Oi dats my leg’ …. I was always curious about this games as a kid. Cheers and luv u both 🍻
I dunno, I can kind of see that if you're a white Anglo who's never actually met anyone from outside the UK. It sure sounds like a nonsense word.
Likely from closeness to 'mook'? I'll admit I've never heard the slur in question in the UK as a sheltered white lad
Yeah, I've only ever heard it in a couple of Vietnam war movies.
Filipino-American here! So the slur "gook" was created during the Spanish-American War and later Filipino-American War to refer to Filipinos. It's used to mimic Tagalog in a derogatory way. Originally Americans would say things like "Guk guk muk muk fuk fuk" like how people say "Ching-chong ling-long" to mimic other Asian languages. Eventually it got shortened to just "gook."
And because the US loves itself some racism and dehumanization, American GIs used the slur in Korea, then Vietnam where it became more mainstream. Since Vietnam was a 20 year conflict, you had tons of soldiers who used the slur while deployed, came back to the US, and taught it to other Americans who would invade Vietnam and repeat the cycle. It mostly became associated with Vietnamese people because the Filipino-American War was only 3 years with roughly 250,000 troops involved on both sides combined. Compare that to Vietnam in which over 300,000 US troops were injured.
The slur is almost exclusively used in the US and hasn't been around that long (which was sometime around 1898~1900). Especially when you compare it to other slurs that have been around for centuries. It's kind of understandable that some Brits weren't entirely aware a slur's history. It's not like they were the ones who came up with it or were involved in any of the conflicts that created it. As long as they stop using it after being informed of its history, I think you just kind of have to shrug your shoulders and accept it was a misunderstanding.
However, if you keep using it as a white person after being informed of its history, you're getting kicked in the shin and your nose is going to find out what "eskrima" is.
Man, I remember picking up issue 88 from a gaming store in Boston like ten years back, and being thoroughly baffled by the Gobbledigook comic on account of having no bleedin clue what a "Games Workshop" was. No idea what happened to it, sadly.
As far as what happened to a lot of the original GW guys; The vast majority of them left the company when they went corporate in 1991 and drifted off into other companies or made their own. The only guys who know to some degree what happened to them are Mr Chambers as well as others who stayed on at GW for 30+ years (that's a long time to work for one company), but this was more than 30 years ago so a lot of them have very fragmented memories about what happened. It was only recently GW managed to get their hands on the rights to Squats again. The reason this is the case is because when they went corporate, so many people were pissed off about that they all left the company and took their copyrighted works with them (including Squats). They also disappeared into the ether; So, unless you ask the vets from GW what happened to them, we wouldn't know because there is very little information from that time period on the internet as it predated it and this was before Warhammer was popular, to my knowledge Bil was one of those who left.
I know this because I met a couple of the original GW guys in person at a Games Day, asked about what went down and what's what I was told, most of them left when they went corporate and they took what they made with them because GW didn't actually own any of their works - they were pissed they had to hand over all their creations to the company's ownership so refused and left. I assume this was one of those works GW doesn't own now.
What muddies the water even more is that there are several notable people with the same name as Bil Sedgwick, including a somewhat well known American comic artist, who is completely unrelated, which muddies the waters substantially when trying to find anything. What is posted here is pretty much all that is known, he's name disappeared from credits after the 80s in comics and other works. I do know many of the ex-GW crew who quit in 1990 went on to work on everything from their own start up miniature wargames companies, to freelance work for other miniature wargames companies, to working for privateer press or Wizards of the Coast and even went on to work at video game companies, one of whom went on to be an extremely successful video game company CEO for a time. But all of them today would be likely retired or moved on to other careers. It's very hard to find any info on any of them except those who became famous later in life.
This channel is criminally underrated.
Always quality stuff.
I don’t know what it says about me that this is maybe one of my favourite videos from you guys like ever. Great work on this one!
I feel like anything before 1987, GW is like "Nope nothing happened before then nope nope nope" because this stuff seems obscure as hell. GW doesn't even draw attention to anything from back then. I can imagine tons of people in the modern GW have no idea about stuff like this.
Probably because most of that stuff is likely owned by its original creators. Anything that survives in GW products today are stuff that GW owns the rights to. Whereas the older stuff would require making deals with people who left the company years ago, something GW probably wouldn't do.
Or the Blackface miniatures they made back when...
Portal to the shittiest future is in the toilet. Makes sense to me.
The Travellers was brilliant, and gave the great Mark Harrison (Glimmer Rats, Tyranny Rex, Grey Area, The Out) a steady paycheck while he learnt his considerable craft.
I still get a laugh out of the scene where the starship command console is covered by a giant star symbol. Floorplans gags, there just aren't enough of them.
Oh, I've been binge watching so much Snipe and Wib that I belived this was an old video I was rewatching.
What a pleasant surprise to see it's only a couple of hours old.
First issue of White Dwarf I ever read was #105, with the Dark Future comic - I'd honestly just assumed every strip was like that.
Derrick the Troll was too ahead of it's time.
I have vague memories of similar strips in 90s French RPG magazines that were probably as bad as this one, but maybe not that confusing. That must be a thing. Thanks a lot for this video.
Thrud is still the name that I use for Barbarian characters in computer games.
Hahaha that Molotov Ribbengrot joke gave me a good chuckle, well done! 😂❤️👍🏼
Gobbledigook and this channel are utterly adorable. Thx for the compilation ! Cheers grumpyoldguy
RIP Harold the Horse
I do actually quite like the aesthetic of this comic, but then I'm already quite receptive to lo-fi xerox-y looking imagery because of the sort of music I listen to and art that I'm drawn to. I'm quite fond of black and white maximalism in comics, so visually this has a lot I can appreciate.
*Snotling:* _Gobbledigook! Ya gotta KUM!_
*Snipe:* _My scientific curiosity has been aroused..._ ;3
Amazing - I loved the stips when I read White Dwarf as a kid
I love these little dives into the obscura of old GW material, it gives a small window into the past and gives me a sort of second-hand nostalgia.
Good work as always!
A perfect day... a Snipe and Wib video to watch after coming back from the Games Expo...
By the way, the commemorative mini for the show is a Space Marine... company champion! I bet you thought I was going to say Lieutenant...
You guys are legitimatley the best. Keep up the amazing work! Cheers from Philadelphia.
It's nice to hear about these things with old White Dwarf, because the current product is *so* sanitized and boring (I mean seriously, compare it to flipping through Wargames Illustrated which manages to be more interesting AND comes with some random free little sprue each month)
Enjoyed this one. Several laugh out loud moments. 🤣
I like how you guys delve into more niche corners of our already niche hobby.
Bless ye for putting it all on Google drive. Truly doing Gork and Mork's work.
I feel like "remember this, it will be unimportant later" should be a catchphrase yoall could use.
I think the over-detail and jam-packed panels is partly thematic, fits with the name.
I remember Gobbledegook and Thrud. My favourite was the one with the Space Marine who gets their head burnt to a crisp. I'm glad cartoons have made a return, if only online.
Making that archive is a noble act. It's wonderful to see older, harder-to-access art being preserved and made readily available. Thank you for this! I'm really enjoying them. I can see why not everyone finds them 'funny' but you gotta admit, the strip has quite an identity and energy to it. It's got life.
I did not understand the joke Wib, but I support your right to make it in your in your own content
Seriously guys, you need to get hold of the four games Oi dats my leg, Squelch, Trolls in the pantry and Hungry trolls and the gobbos. I really want to hear the the in deep review of the cassettes with booootiful music that came with them!
gotta love that british humor, wich to be honest its hilarious for someone as broken as me
Every S&W observation in this episode is *chef kiss*
Been loving the Codex Compliant series for a while now, and thanks for this one! I've seen the panels where Gobbledi meets the Space Marine before, but that is it. The Archive is great! Would love to see more comic series from WD reviewed! Amazing work, from an old deviantart follower
I mean, you could make a 20 minute video about a single paragraph in one White Dwarf issue twenty years ago and I'd still watch it 😛
If memory serves, the pestering out of Gobbledigook would coincide with GW starting to dump RPGs and other companies' games, and transforming to the Evil Empire
Someone had a criminal amount of fun making the jokes in this episode
God the amount of effort you guys put into these videos, I hope you realise how much we all appreciate the work
Punk/postapoc gobbledigook with "I HATE EVERYTHING" tatooed on its nose is the single punk-est thing I ever saw from any gw related product. wow.
Knowing Ork players I am now fully expecting someone to make a Molotov-Ribbengrot Pact themed army, or at least kill team.
You won me over with the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact joke.
That joke about early-twentieth century treaties😣.
I thought I remembered that from somewhere. “Herbert,” was used as an insult in the Star Trek episode “The way to Eden.” This suggests some interesting implications….
A synonym for gobbledygook is bafflegab, another good word.
There was another T-Shirt with Gobbldigook playing a guitar, called "Gook-rock." which I had one of, years ago.
10:20 I enjoyed that historical little joke.
I always loved Gobbledigook one of the things I always looked forward to in WD, and I do find it funny. Thanks so much for the archive. :D
Huh, i've never heard of Fury of Dracula. Wonder what that's all about. Also great to see Dark Future being... remembered at all, honestly!
Snipe's comedic timing is in full force.
Had no idea Lew Stringer (Derek the Troll 0:51 ) did a strip in White Dwarf! I know him from his long running (and as far as I remember, fondly thought of) strip Combat Colin from the Marvel UK Transformers comics (and possibly Action Man, although I'm not as personally familiar with that comic).
I also had Oi Dats My Leg, though I don't remember much about it. I remember loving the funny voices cassette that came with the game, although I was pretty young at the time so I have my doubts it'd hold up very well.
Oh wow, I did not realise that was also Lew Stringer, thanks for the heads up! I was only recently sent some of those comics and now I'm kicking myself for not noticing that and including that fun little detail in the video hah
@@SnipeandWib I'm very much here for as much Warhammer/TF crossover content as possible!
The Molotov-Ribbentrop pact joke made me choke on my coffee
They might gave him 3cp for cash in his AD&D stats as a nice reference for the early comic.
Or that early comic was itself referring to how much money goblins carry and so it’s just come full circle.
Perhaps Da Black Gobbo is a return of Gobbledigook? Feasibly the artist, Bill, owns the character so DBG was Troll/WD/GW’s attempt at making something similar (but legally distinct/less slurry).
The Travellers was great, Gavin singing "let's laser them" to the tune of "it's raining men" was genius
Picked up some old copies in a Nottingham comic store when I first moved there
Thank you for explaining that joke Snipe; As a Canadian who has never actually heard that word used in person, I would not have gotten that one
Thanks for this gem! I haven't lauged this hard in a while!
I think the idea of grot hitler made me laugh way more than it had any rigth to
You guys should do a video like this about Turn Signals on a Land Raider.
Came for the vid. Stayed for the use of the Bulk and Skull theme.
Brilliant stuff! Never knew he had a mini! need to try and get that one :)
Holy crap, I think I have the Gobbledigook mini with the lil' guy - it's in a wrong blister and mislabeled, but I've wondered what that McDonalds Fry Guy looking dude was for years.
It somehow seems fitting that a comic strip about a goblin slowly devolved over time into a mess of goblin chaos spilling all over the page
Are you absolutely sure the 40K cross over wasn't actually a cross over with 'Allo Allo'?
Snipe and Wib, do you still need a copy of "oi, Dat's My Leg?!"? We have a copy here with the actual silly songs tape. My girls play it now but if you could make a video from it, that's a noble sacrifice!
It is superbly funny with the voiceovers and sound effects tho!
As an historian, I really appreciated your nerdy M-R Pact joke, along with the rest of the video :-)
excellent work. I'm exactly the sort of weirdo who watches a niche video like this right to the end.
Well that was a fun little history lesson.
The smokey eye look is glorious, Queen! Wib, you need to step it up.
I kinda miss the Wacky Nazi aesthetics of early Space Orks… Oh, I know that it absolutely would not fly in today’s market, but there was a weird black humor to it that the game really lacks now.
I have "oi! dat's my leg" still from when I was a kid
That joke actually had me laughing pretty good wib.
I aint heard of this guy in 35 years ! and suddenly this..
I appreciate the note about the shortening of the name, and being respectful about it all.
I rly love the videos about niche things from the past of games workshop. Very entertaining.
Ok 👍 for the hilarious Rebal Grot joke 🤣
fantastic work guys. i love gobbledegook but i don't pretend to understand it...
Might have one in the shed. Will take a look.
I pledge to make the phrase "dimensional toilet" a thing in my next game.
I remember the thud mini, but never knew it was a comic
derrick the troll was honestly too good for the gamers anyway
Excellent Molotov-Ribbengrot joke
Haha - I forgot the portal toilet - a reference to the old chaos lavatory mini :)
A WOW video about a subject i did not know about !
So 'tis.