Guilliman: "Calgar, who are these... 'Lamenters'?" *two days of explaining later* "By the throne just send them all of the primaris marines, Emperor knows they'll need them." (Ultra-depression worsens)
The Lamenters chapter is one of chapters I like the most - they do what they are actually created for - protect human population. Which makes them one of the best things this whole 40k universe have. Period.
The only other Marine chapter that I can quickly think of (And I am not going to go looking for some random chapter mentioned once somewhere, or thinking about individual marines who may vary greatly) that actually explicitly concerns itself with this seems to be the Salamanders. And you could maybe possibly say that they have just a bit of an easier time of it. The Lamenters do it despite the fact that they seem to be suffering from some sort of anti-karma where no matter how decent their actions, they will get shat on by the universe. Ironically, they might uphold the legacy of Sanguinius better than the Blood Angels.
YESSS. This was great, and I loved all the little bits of info I never heard of before. And happy to have helped contribute two illustrations cause there just is not enough Lamenters art in the world. CRABB FOREVER.
So uh... the Lamenters are yellow. And their first marine was Crabb. Mr. Crabb. If you will. I'm just saying a Sponge Bob joke could 100% be made her with little effort and I'll leave it there.
They are the embodiment of the expression "Bloodied but unbowed," getting hammered over and over and coming back for more, because its the right thing to do
Once and only once did I ever see someone paint up their marines as Fire Angels, I thought they were wiped out a long time ago anyway so why a dead chapter, I don't know but as you say, for the giggles and shits! 😅
I always liked to think that the reason it took a while for the Lamenters to form a Death Company was that it just took them that long for any one member of the chapter to live long enough to fall to the Black Rage. Suitably grim and tragic for them, and more or less in-line with everything we do know about the chapter since they keep getting nearly wiped out.
@@jakerubino3233 They never meant that Age solely produced the black rage, rather, the older you are, the more battles you have fought thus the more chance the black rage to take hold of you. Not to mention, due to the high casualty rate they have, entire companies are getting wiped in battles, some may have fallen to the black rage in the battle but is subsequently killed in said battle.
@@jakerubino3233mate his point was that most of their members prolly didnt live enough become part of the Death Company. If anyone got the Black Rage they prolly immediately died during or even after the battle.
I love the Lamenters, especially how their compassion and grief can drive them into a rage on-par with some of the most violent chapters (I mean in the Liberation of Slaughterhouse III their fury was shocking to even Orks)
That's basically what Sanguinius was all about. Compassion and fury. It's kind of funny how they potentially take more after their Primarch than the first founding.
@@goblinrat6119 And yet they also seem furthest apart from their lineage (the couple times the Blood Angels have called upon their successors in a crisis, most notably the Devastation of Baal, the Lamenters were the only chapter that didn't show up)
I started collecting Lamenters specifically because of Wib's rogue trader collection and they're now one of my favourite 40k factions - I massively appreciate you guys for making this video and giving the Lamenters the love they deserve!
I guess as a person who actually has a whole army of Mantis Warriors I have to chime in...... I would say you should cover them in a video like this, but I think this video covers most of it.
that is great, I love it when people make Warhammer armies of fairly obscure factions - always find that more interesting than when they use the better known ones
I've painted one Lamenter. He's the basing detail on my Toxicrene. I am somewhat tempted to get a few squads of old-style (i.e. Horus Heresy) tactical marines, and paint all the different armour and camo schemes from that 1st ed Badab War article. Including in particular the Salamander patterned after real- world salamanders, and the Space Shark with the goofy shark logo on his pauldron.
To be fair to Ian Watson, if any chapter has a brother named Biff, it'd be the Imperial Fists... :P I always thought it was interesting artistic choice to make them bright yellow, given that they're all about misery and misfortune. Still, I'll always have a soft spot for Space Marine chapters that actually care about people. It's nice to see them fighting to protect humanity because they (presumably) feel some sort of empathy for the downtrodden and defenceless, as opposed to just Alex Jones-ing over the slightest hint of anything alien.
It wouldn't be a Lamenters video without it too being cursed. Huh, its through this I learned both the Scythes of the Emperor AND the Lamenters were both wiped out by Hive Fleet Kraken. The Scythes are my favorite obscure(ish) chapter and I too have learned to love the pain of painting entirely too much yellow.
I picked up 40k after over a decade away. I picked the Lamenters simply because my dice rolls are always bad so now I can call my losses totally canon. Now I just enjoy painting and collecting them. The checkerboard is a good indicator of my progress in painting skill, even just a year into the hobby, there's definitely been an improvement.
My favourite astro-shooty-lads! Started playing them because I'm genuinely terrible at the game and their lore of 'they always lose, even when they win' just kind of hit home. These days I've got a demi-company of Badab War veterans (all Firstborn with heavy use of mk3+4 parts) and slowly building up the rest out of Primaris. Very neat way to contrast the 'old guard' and the post-Indomitus recruits.
So glad to finally have a nice summary of Lamenters fluff, done by the best old 40k researchers on the internet! Your army is looking killer these days.
I just started an Oldhammer Mantis Warrior project... but mostly to make players at the local FLGS go "huh? What chapter is that?" and because the new contrast paint is really nice!
i've been really into the Lamenters recently. there's a mk6 plastic set now, they got rules for 3rd edition, i've been thinking about how to adapt their colour scheme into something that's easier to paint and in the style of the campaign colours and squad camo schemes of the RT era.... there's a lot going for them.
Hey! I collected a Fire Angels back in the early '90s and they fought in at least 2 games of 40k back then. Admittedly most were in an alternate "low visibility" grey paint scheme as I discovered how unpleasant it was to paint white armour with early '90s paints while doing the first squad, but they definitely existed and many survive to this day. I was however kind of annoyed to discover that Forge World retconned them to have silver armour, as that would have made painting my army so much easier back in the day.. Your Lamenters look far nicer than my Fire Angels ever did!
I always love it when people do Warhammer armies of factions that are super obscure in-universe, interesting that Forge World have suddenly started giving more attention to them
18:18 My headcanon is that Cawl made primaris marines from lamenter geneseed, but determined that they would be a waste of primaris space marines, so he gave them all to the Minotaurs.
despite being similar in bad luck, I feel like the Lamenters and the Crimson Fists would not get along form the outset, considering the Crimson Fists have been used by the Adeptus Terra as there enforcers for unruly Space Marine Chapters. But I guess if they get over the initial awkwardness they would become fast friends.
Part of me wants to make a Marine customisation with two peg-legs, a hook for a hand and a boltgun with the ammo clip hanging out awkwardly, drill bullet-holes all over it and paint it in Lamenters' 13th company colours, then finish it off with a name-plaque on the bsae saying "LUCKY"...
I think that the Lamenters never get back to full Codex strength before they get decimated again, so they aren't losing hundreds of battle-brothers every time it happens.
Great episode out of curiosity who can identify all the chapters getting shade thrown at them during the snippet around 19:09 Left to right is what I'm thinking, 1) Minotaurs 2) Subjugators 3) Blood Drinkers 4) Marines Malevolent 5) Son's of Medusa 6) Space Sharks/Carcharodons 7) Flesh Tearers
I have a number of Tactical marines collected on the cheap, that I don't want to incorporate into my existing Fallen force. (I use mostly marines from the Dark Vengeance box, with the raised shoulder symbols. I would rather not freehand them.). I've been wondering what to do with them for a while. At first I thought Salamanders, since I have both a Melta and Flamer marine among the models. But most were painted as Blood Angels, and one even has the blood drop symbol on their backpack. So I've considered either painting them as Blood Angels or Flesh Tearers. But this gives me another possibility: Lamenters. Like the Salamanders, they're also a chapter that is one of the nicer "violent arm of a fascist theocracy" groups in canon. On the downside, signing up to paint yellow, checkerboards, and red hearts sounds like a real pain. I still haven't decided, and will probably put that project off in favor of expanding my existing armies. But then, I only really need to paint them for a Kill Team, so it wouldn't be a _big_ investment of time...
When you're finished with all the classic Codexes, please keep doing deep dives on the OG Chapters from the Rogue Trader days! I thoroughly enjoyed this video about everybody's favourite Space Marines. Actually, a similar deep dive on the Space Wolves would be lovely: another RT Chapter, and of course they are Snipe's favourite.
Oooh, it's my first Codex Compliant since I randomly booted up an old copy of the Space Crusader video game and sat stunned when the music started playing...
I'm currently painting the marine parts being munched by the tyranid psychophage as a Lamenter. Yes, it's Leviathan and not Kraken, but seemed kinda appropriate.
Right now, the Tome Keepers, White Dwarf's personal chapter, are my favorite successor chapter. The Angels Penitent, Necropolis Hawks, Rift Stalkers, Mortifactors, and Black Dragons rank highly too.
Ooooh! Oh! Teacher! Teacher! Mater Lacrimarum probably IS a reference to Argento. Argento was known for a particularly over-the-top style of horror film known as "giallo", which is Italian for yellow!
That Lamenters army paintjob is absolutely gorgeous! A very nice video with good presentation that makes it enjoyable even when one knows their story! :)
"Scumnik, Bigman asks: What is the namenz of the Emp?" 'Emp's namenz is "Bigger-Than-You." Emp's namenz is Death.' From Watson's "Space Marine", when an underhive scum from Necromunda was chosen as a recruit to the Imperial Fists.
Lamenter: Hey can you help xyz? Mortifier: hmmm, very sus. Show kd or we leave Lamenter: WHA? PLEASE BE REASONABLE user has disconnected from your channel
It's great to see a codex compliant video in my box 2day. Especially as this is now a mortifacter h8 channel. Tomorrow is Canada Day, where we celebrate not being Mericans by drinking beer, singing patriotic songs & exploding stuff. As you can see, we are very different as our national holiday is 3 days earlier and I had to take a number of courses and certifications to obtain firearms instead of buying them at a kwiki mart. But this video is nearly as good and fills my bitter heart with joy. Keep up the amazing work.
the Lamenters stealing a bunch of prisoners sounds like they've gone from the Crusade fleet set up to Nomad-Predation. the nomad-predation fleet chapters we've gotten lore on, like the Carcharadons, tend to target prisons and similar isolated sites for their recruitment drives. taking the inmates and then running them through extreme versions of the Aspirant trials.
i painted a Lamenters Dreadnought army for 6th edition, had traded it away and it came back recently - have spotted Wib's across the various videos so looking forward to hitting 10th with them!
As a Raptors player its always funny seeing really old Badab war material that has us in our horrendous old colour scheme. Also that 1999 list has the Raptors as "unknown founding" whereas today they are a 2nd Founding Raven Guard Successor, which is a pretty major change. Forge World really gave us a glow up
My favourite chapter. I've just held off of painting any because I know I will want all of them to be perfect. I have still the SM part of the 8th edition starter set saved for the day when I finally decide to do this great chapter justice.
5:16 how can you mention Biff Tundrish and leave out the part of the book where he literally honest to God says "It's Biffin' time"??? (I am not joking, this is actually said)
Very cool video. Before this video i knew the lamenters were a successor chapter of the blood angles..... Thats it. Thank you so much for your awesome work.
They have only ever been brought to extinction twice, the other examples you mentioned of them losing marines were either entire squads or companies losing a lot of marines not the entire chapter.
The Emperor did not stutter when he ordered the space marines to be a bulwark against the terror. The realms of humanity must be protected, and it is not the job of space marines to determine which are worthy of salvation. Every life must be protected at all costs. When compared to the Lamenters, all other chapters have been negligent in their duty.
Space marine is a hilarious book. The farting as the plank their way up a chimney and them ‘skating’ in power armour to appear like elder. Made me laugh.
This is one of those beautiful videos that feels tailored for me. I'm currently making a (very) small Lamenters army for a Badab War event some friends are putting together. I love these boys!
This coverage of successor chapters is seriously awesome snipe and wib! I would love to see both of you cover the Mortifactors chapter, personal and underappreciate favourite :D thanks!
What an epic episode ! one of the best ones so far. Bonus points for the great music at the credits. I have played this game on my C64 but my memory is failing me. Is it something by Rob Hubbard ?
As fate would have it, the same day as I decide to start a lamenters army you guys decide to go into full detail about them 😁 The best chapter! Its always so nice to see your rogue trader era army Wib! Makes me happy 😊
So, the Lamenters rebel and, as a punishment, are sent to fight a 100-year crusade; as, opposed to, not rebelling, and spending the next century fighting the enemies of Mankind as normal Space Marines? I wonder if a Lamenter was visiting the Crimson Fists' Fortress Monastery when the Arch-Arsonist of Charadon arrived at Rynn's World. That could explain the malfunctioning missile. It is always great to see Snipe and Wib produce another fun and informative video.
Hey Snipe! Just wanted to say I’m very fond of you and Wib’s work, especially codex compliant. I’m not sure how long you’ve been including your pronouns in about the first ~10secs of your vids but it makes me smile every time I see it. I’m nonbinary myself and I generally don’t see openly enby people make the kind of content I usually consume and I find it nice to see! ^w^ I hope you have a good day and I look forward to the next codex compliant! UwU
First off a named Deathwatch Lamenters Dreadnought AND an all-Lamenters Kill Team? Stealing those for my DW army. Second off I wonder if that quick trip through prison was a hasty recruitment drive.
Fun fact: Malakim Phoros actually appears in a Flesh Tearers book, Trial by Blood, where he gets a lick in at Gabriel Seth while he's being questioned by the leaders of the Blood Angels and their successors (so they actually will appear when the Blood Angels call for them, sometimes, especially when it involves dunking on the Flesh Tearers). Malakim says that normal Flesh Tearers make his Death Company look sane, and Gabe gives a pathetic reply to the effect of "Yeah, well, YOU'RE YELLOW AND A COWARD." Even though apparently Malakim Phoros wears gold...
This is a bit of an aside, but remember when GW released a new edition of Space Hulk, and it just randomly dropped the lore tidbit that the Blood Angels once lost NINETY PERCENT of their chapter while fighting a Space Hulk? GW is just so casual about mentioning near-catastrophic losses and having Chapters just shrugging them off and apparently forgetting about it in-universe.
Have I missed a bit of lore somewhere? I was always under the impression that the red thirst and black rage were "chapter secrets" to the BA and co, but having a cursed founding chapter made to remove these "issues" implies the Top men know of them, else they wouldn't be trying to remove them.. Hmm
Marines Errant and Errantor made me laugh way more than it should because I make a webcomic called Errant, and there being a hypothetical "Errantor" where the knights have even bigger swords and are even gayer would be kind of great. (Every day I get closer to converting some space marines into Errant Marines Errant...).
Well at least Matt Ward did some stuff for the necrons but forever gets the stigma of giving the smurfs more plot armor abuse then gundam wing and seed
Don’t forget The Fall Of Malvolion by Dan Abnett from 2006! In which some Mordians are rescued from the Tyranids by a bunch of Lamenters! Well, I say ‘rescued’...
Oh hey, I actually have Captain Crabb. If I had one more, I could say I have Crabbs, which would be funny. Favourite minor chapters... I don't know, Guardians of the Covenant? They look cool. And the Red Hunters. It may seem redundant to have a chapter of red Space Marines who serve the Inquisition when we already have the Exorcists, but the list at 5:33 has the Angels of Penance, the Angels Penitent, and the Penitents, so redundancy is clearly not something the Imperium is too worried about.
Hey, "Tried to do the right thing and got screwed over for it" Chapter In Yellow(ish) Armour buddies! I personally play the Celestial Lions, who rather than having a spiritual aura of bad luck, simply exist to show what happens when someone who isn't a Space Wolf tries to tangle with the Inquisition. You may know us from the "Ork Snipers" meme.
Tzeench: lets let 'em win a few times. Slaanesh and Nurgal: why tho? T: it will be funny watching the unlucky SOBs grow more and more paranoid. Nurgal: fine im game. S: sounds like fun.
Lamenter: “Brother, I’ve been shot”
Calix: “Yes, but how does that make you feel about your mother?”
Lamenter: 🥺
"ME MUM WAS A TUBE! A TUBE IN MOUNT FOOKIN' EVEREST! MOM EVEREST! FOOK!!!"
@@weldonwin "Wot?"
@@tntengineer2330 TTS Joke, it's the source of an awful lot of Warhammer memes
@@weldonwin I know, I was quoting the Salamander guards.
Congratulations on finishing chemo! Much love to both of you.
Guilliman: "Calgar, who are these... 'Lamenters'?"
*two days of explaining later*
"By the throne just send them all of the primaris marines, Emperor knows they'll need them." (Ultra-depression worsens)
i thought the TTS take on the emperor's reaction to the Lamenters was perfect.. a literal rain of tears in the golden throne room
ITS MAH BOIS!
The Lamenters chapter is one of chapters I like the most - they do what they are actually created for - protect human population.
Which makes them one of the best things this whole 40k universe have. Period.
The only other Marine chapter that I can quickly think of (And I am not going to go looking for some random chapter mentioned once somewhere, or thinking about individual marines who may vary greatly) that actually explicitly concerns itself with this seems to be the Salamanders. And you could maybe possibly say that they have just a bit of an easier time of it. The Lamenters do it despite the fact that they seem to be suffering from some sort of anti-karma where no matter how decent their actions, they will get shat on by the universe.
Ironically, they might uphold the legacy of Sanguinius better than the Blood Angels.
Yeah, unfortunately this is a universe that can't let you be happy and therefore can't let them get away with doing the right thing unpunished.
YESSS. This was great, and I loved all the little bits of info I never heard of before. And happy to have helped contribute two illustrations cause there just is not enough Lamenters art in the world.
CRABB FOREVER.
For those we cherish!!
So uh... the Lamenters are yellow. And their first marine was Crabb. Mr. Crabb. If you will.
I'm just saying a Sponge Bob joke could 100% be made her with little effort and I'll leave it there.
They are the embodiment of the expression "Bloodied but unbowed," getting hammered over and over and coming back for more, because its the right thing to do
FOR THOSE WE CHERISH, WE DIE IN GLORY
They fight. And they will continue to fight. Not because they can win, but because it is right.
I now feel like painting my Leviathan box as fire angels for the shits and giggles now
Gonna need to check back on this and see if you've done it
I expect pictures.
For some reason I read Fire Angels and thought of the guys who are literally on fire. Sadly, those are the Flame Falcons, so no burny bois, I guess.
To be fair.. Alot of people actually have fire angels since they became the Legion of the Damned after the Badab war
Once and only once did I ever see someone paint up their marines as Fire Angels, I thought they were wiped out a long time ago anyway so why a dead chapter, I don't know but as you say, for the giggles and shits! 😅
@@maxbrandt6 I think you might be thinking of the Fire Hawks
Had to laugh at the dig at Mantis Warriors, as I'm slowly doing a rogue trader force of them, like wib has with these excellent lamentors.
Aren't there 2 different chapters called the mantis warriors (or am I confusing them with the emperor's scythes)?
@morrisonnolan5687 only 1 that I'm aware of, though they have been referred to as the mantis legion in at least 1 source
Ngl I love the Mantis Warriors mainly because of the Kamen Rider jokes people make about them
I always liked to think that the reason it took a while for the Lamenters to form a Death Company was that it just took them that long for any one member of the chapter to live long enough to fall to the Black Rage. Suitably grim and tragic for them, and more or less in-line with everything we do know about the chapter since they keep getting nearly wiped out.
Good point, oddly grim..
Age doesn’t trigger the rage mate it’s the eve of battle and it has no predictable symptoms or path.
@@jakerubino3233 They never meant that Age solely produced the black rage, rather, the older you are, the more battles you have fought thus the more chance the black rage to take hold of you. Not to mention, due to the high casualty rate they have, entire companies are getting wiped in battles, some may have fallen to the black rage in the battle but is subsequently killed in said battle.
@@jakerubino3233mate his point was that most of their members prolly didnt live enough become part of the Death Company. If anyone got the Black Rage they prolly immediately died during or even after the battle.
As a nurse, looking at the yellow of Lamenters, it reminds me of plasma ie blood minus the red blood cells. Thank you for a great video!
I love the Lamenters, especially how their compassion and grief can drive them into a rage on-par with some of the most violent chapters (I mean in the Liberation of Slaughterhouse III their fury was shocking to even Orks)
That's basically what Sanguinius was all about. Compassion and fury. It's kind of funny how they potentially take more after their Primarch than the first founding.
@@goblinrat6119 And yet they also seem furthest apart from their lineage (the couple times the Blood Angels have called upon their successors in a crisis, most notably the Devastation of Baal, the Lamenters were the only chapter that didn't show up)
I started collecting Lamenters specifically because of Wib's rogue trader collection and they're now one of my favourite 40k factions - I massively appreciate you guys for making this video and giving the Lamenters the love they deserve!
Talk about unlucky. Even the yellow paint named after them was discontinued
Bruh
I like to think the bad luck of the lamenters is just an unforseen psychic sideffect of everyone cursing the Lamenters while having to paint them.
Yeah that sounds fair since this is 40k
I guess as a person who actually has a whole army of Mantis Warriors I have to chime in......
I would say you should cover them in a video like this, but I think this video covers most of it.
that is great, I love it when people make Warhammer armies of fairly obscure factions - always find that more interesting than when they use the better known ones
I've painted one Lamenter. He's the basing detail on my Toxicrene.
I am somewhat tempted to get a few squads of old-style (i.e. Horus Heresy) tactical marines, and paint all the different armour and camo schemes from that 1st ed Badab War article. Including in particular the Salamander patterned after real- world salamanders, and the Space Shark with the goofy shark logo on his pauldron.
To be fair to Ian Watson, if any chapter has a brother named Biff, it'd be the Imperial Fists... :P
I always thought it was interesting artistic choice to make them bright yellow, given that they're all about misery and misfortune. Still, I'll always have a soft spot for Space Marine chapters that actually care about people. It's nice to see them fighting to protect humanity because they (presumably) feel some sort of empathy for the downtrodden and defenceless, as opposed to just Alex Jones-ing over the slightest hint of anything alien.
It wouldn't be a Lamenters video without it too being cursed. Huh, its through this I learned both the Scythes of the Emperor AND the Lamenters were both wiped out by Hive Fleet Kraken. The Scythes are my favorite obscure(ish) chapter and I too have learned to love the pain of painting entirely too much yellow.
I picked up 40k after over a decade away. I picked the Lamenters simply because my dice rolls are always bad so now I can call my losses totally canon. Now I just enjoy painting and collecting them. The checkerboard is a good indicator of my progress in painting skill, even just a year into the hobby, there's definitely been an improvement.
My favourite astro-shooty-lads! Started playing them because I'm genuinely terrible at the game and their lore of 'they always lose, even when they win' just kind of hit home.
These days I've got a demi-company of Badab War veterans (all Firstborn with heavy use of mk3+4 parts) and slowly building up the rest out of Primaris. Very neat way to contrast the 'old guard' and the post-Indomitus recruits.
So glad to finally have a nice summary of Lamenters fluff, done by the best old 40k researchers on the internet! Your army is looking killer these days.
Snipe, with their crew cut, declaring "rad!" to the prospect of a battle therapist is all sorts of ace!
I just started an Oldhammer Mantis Warrior project... but mostly to make players at the local FLGS go "huh? What chapter is that?" and because the new contrast paint is really nice!
i've been really into the Lamenters recently. there's a mk6 plastic set now, they got rules for 3rd edition, i've been thinking about how to adapt their colour scheme into something that's easier to paint and in the style of the campaign colours and squad camo schemes of the RT era.... there's a lot going for them.
Hey! I collected a Fire Angels back in the early '90s and they fought in at least 2 games of 40k back then. Admittedly most were in an alternate "low visibility" grey paint scheme as I discovered how unpleasant it was to paint white armour with early '90s paints while doing the first squad, but they definitely existed and many survive to this day. I was however kind of annoyed to discover that Forge World retconned them to have silver armour, as that would have made painting my army so much easier back in the day..
Your Lamenters look far nicer than my Fire Angels ever did!
I always love it when people do Warhammer armies of factions that are super obscure in-universe, interesting that Forge World have suddenly started giving more attention to them
18:18 My headcanon is that Cawl made primaris marines from lamenter geneseed, but determined that they would be a waste of primaris space marines, so he gave them all to the Minotaurs.
despite being similar in bad luck, I feel like the Lamenters and the Crimson Fists would not get along form the outset, considering the Crimson Fists have been used by the Adeptus Terra as there enforcers for unruly Space Marine Chapters. But I guess if they get over the initial awkwardness they would become fast friends.
Part of me wants to make a Marine customisation with two peg-legs, a hook for a hand and a boltgun with the ammo clip hanging out awkwardly, drill bullet-holes all over it and paint it in Lamenters' 13th company colours, then finish it off with a name-plaque on the bsae saying "LUCKY"...
Loved it, this was better than adeptus ridiculous podcast on the sad lads.
This was both more accurate and more entertaining. Score one more for Snipe and Wib.
I think that the Lamenters never get back to full Codex strength before they get decimated again, so they aren't losing hundreds of battle-brothers every time it happens.
Great episode out of curiosity who can identify all the chapters getting shade thrown at them during the snippet around 19:09
Left to right is what I'm thinking,
1) Minotaurs
2) Subjugators
3) Blood Drinkers
4) Marines Malevolent
5) Son's of Medusa
6) Space Sharks/Carcharodons
7) Flesh Tearers
I have a number of Tactical marines collected on the cheap, that I don't want to incorporate into my existing Fallen force. (I use mostly marines from the Dark Vengeance box, with the raised shoulder symbols. I would rather not freehand them.). I've been wondering what to do with them for a while.
At first I thought Salamanders, since I have both a Melta and Flamer marine among the models. But most were painted as Blood Angels, and one even has the blood drop symbol on their backpack. So I've considered either painting them as Blood Angels or Flesh Tearers. But this gives me another possibility: Lamenters. Like the Salamanders, they're also a chapter that is one of the nicer "violent arm of a fascist theocracy" groups in canon.
On the downside, signing up to paint yellow, checkerboards, and red hearts sounds like a real pain. I still haven't decided, and will probably put that project off in favor of expanding my existing armies. But then, I only really need to paint them for a Kill Team, so it wouldn't be a _big_ investment of time...
For the lunatic who wants a Blood Angel army, but also loves the Badab War part of the background, but also hates themselves enough to paint checks...
THANK YOU! I've decided to play my bois in yellow for 10, so this came at exactly the right moment!
When you're finished with all the classic Codexes, please keep doing deep dives on the OG Chapters from the Rogue Trader days! I thoroughly enjoyed this video about everybody's favourite Space Marines.
Actually, a similar deep dive on the Space Wolves would be lovely: another RT Chapter, and of course they are Snipe's favourite.
Oooh, it's my first Codex Compliant since I randomly booted up an old copy of the Space Crusader video game and sat stunned when the music started playing...
I'm currently painting the marine parts being munched by the tyranid psychophage as a Lamenter. Yes, it's Leviathan and not Kraken, but seemed kinda appropriate.
Right now, the Tome Keepers, White Dwarf's personal chapter, are my favorite successor chapter. The Angels Penitent, Necropolis Hawks, Rift Stalkers, Mortifactors, and Black Dragons rank highly too.
Ooooh! Oh! Teacher! Teacher! Mater Lacrimarum probably IS a reference to Argento. Argento was known for a particularly over-the-top style of horror film known as "giallo", which is Italian for yellow!
That is an excellent point! I did not make the giallo connection. A gold star for you!
Good to see another Codex Compliant! Where do you guys get the background music from? It's one of my favourite things about these videos!
One of my favourite chapters. If ever there were Space Marines who embodied what the Emperor wanted, it's these guys 😊
Snipe, that hairstyle kinda rocks on you. I know it's not exactly chosen, but it's awesome.
I have to say, this channel made me a Lamenters fan before this video. I even made a few custom action figure JoyToy 1:18 Lamenters.
That Lamenters army paintjob is absolutely gorgeous! A very nice video with good presentation that makes it enjoyable even when one knows their story! :)
"Scumnik, Bigman asks: What is the namenz of the Emp?"
'Emp's namenz is "Bigger-Than-You." Emp's namenz is Death.'
From Watson's "Space Marine", when an underhive scum from Necromunda was chosen as a recruit to the Imperial Fists.
This may just be the perfect 40k lore channel... Top marks, yet again you two! :D
Lamenter: Hey can you help xyz?
Mortifier: hmmm, very sus. Show kd or we leave
Lamenter: WHA? PLEASE BE REASONABLE
user has disconnected from your channel
It's great to see a codex compliant video in my box 2day. Especially as this is now a mortifacter h8 channel. Tomorrow is Canada Day, where we celebrate not being Mericans by drinking beer, singing patriotic songs & exploding stuff. As you can see, we are very different as our national holiday is 3 days earlier and I had to take a number of courses and certifications to obtain firearms instead of buying them at a kwiki mart. But this video is nearly as good and fills my bitter heart with joy. Keep up the amazing work.
the Lamenters stealing a bunch of prisoners sounds like they've gone from the Crusade fleet set up to Nomad-Predation. the nomad-predation fleet chapters we've gotten lore on, like the Carcharadons, tend to target prisons and similar isolated sites for their recruitment drives. taking the inmates and then running them through extreme versions of the Aspirant trials.
Codex Compliant! My favourite show on UA-cam 💜💜💜
i painted a Lamenters Dreadnought army for 6th edition, had traded it away and it came back recently - have spotted Wib's across the various videos so looking forward to hitting 10th with them!
As a Raptors player its always funny seeing really old Badab war material that has us in our horrendous old colour scheme. Also that 1999 list has the Raptors as "unknown founding" whereas today they are a 2nd Founding Raven Guard Successor, which is a pretty major change. Forge World really gave us a glow up
My favourite chapter. I've just held off of painting any because I know I will want all of them to be perfect.
I have still the SM part of the 8th edition starter set saved for the day when I finally decide to do this great chapter justice.
5:16 how can you mention Biff Tundrish and leave out the part of the book where he literally honest to God says "It's Biffin' time"??? (I am not joking, this is actually said)
My Boifriend has challenged me to paint a squad of Carcharadon successors, from the Blahaj marines. :3
All glory to shork friend!
Very cool video. Before this video i knew the lamenters were a successor chapter of the blood angles..... Thats it. Thank you so much for your awesome work.
They have only ever been brought to extinction twice, the other examples you mentioned of them losing marines were either entire squads or companies losing a lot of marines not the entire chapter.
The Emperor did not stutter when he ordered the space marines to be a bulwark against the terror. The realms of humanity must be protected, and it is not the job of space marines to determine which are worthy of salvation. Every life must be protected at all costs. When compared to the Lamenters, all other chapters have been negligent in their duty.
Space marine is a hilarious book. The farting as the plank their way up a chimney and them ‘skating’ in power armour to appear like elder. Made me laugh.
Did you spot the lil Ian Watson? That's very cheeky of you Snipe and Wib.
This is one of those beautiful videos that feels tailored for me. I'm currently making a (very) small Lamenters army for a Badab War event some friends are putting together. I love these boys!
This coverage of successor chapters is seriously awesome snipe and wib! I would love to see both of you cover the Mortifactors chapter, personal and underappreciate favourite :D thanks!
Wait nvm found out you hate Mortifactors :(
What an epic episode ! one of the best ones so far. Bonus points for the great music at the credits. I have played this game on my C64 but my memory is failing me. Is it something by Rob Hubbard ?
As fate would have it, the same day as I decide to start a lamenters army you guys decide to go into full detail about them 😁 The best chapter!
Its always so nice to see your rogue trader era army Wib! Makes me happy 😊
Good video!
I have now learned the Lamenters' lore, learned to hate the Mortifactors and I'm feeling obliged to paint atleast 1 mantis warrior
I have 2000 pts of lamentors and only after i paintedthem did my mate explain to me what primer was
Badab War chapters are all so cool. I almost went with Mantis Warriors myself, but decided on Sons of Medusa instead.
So, the Lamenters rebel and, as a punishment, are sent to fight a 100-year crusade; as, opposed to, not rebelling, and spending the next century fighting the enemies of Mankind as normal Space Marines?
I wonder if a Lamenter was visiting the Crimson Fists' Fortress Monastery when the Arch-Arsonist of Charadon arrived at Rynn's World. That could explain the malfunctioning missile.
It is always great to see Snipe and Wib produce another fun and informative video.
Hey Snipe! Just wanted to say I’m very fond of you and Wib’s work, especially codex compliant.
I’m not sure how long you’ve been including your pronouns in about the first ~10secs of your vids but it makes me smile every time I see it. I’m nonbinary myself and I generally don’t see openly enby people make the kind of content I usually consume and I find it nice to see! ^w^
I hope you have a good day and I look forward to the next codex compliant! UwU
minotaurs sucks so much, one of the biggest bastards among the space marines
Oooo, can we get an episode about the Salamanders chapter next time?
Thanks for showing brother Ward same name born in the same year. I need it now.
No comment on how their war-cry is literally the best in the entire game? "For those we cherish we die in glory"
who plays the fire angels i would like to shake this mans hand now plz
Blessed Asuryan/Cegorach they are back!
Tempted to ask for a Mantis Warriors brief now
The dodgy photoshop is just part of their curse, honestly
my favorite minor space marine chapter is the iron knights
Their hair is coming back! Hope it's the just the first fruits of a smooth recovery
Here to make sure Wib is correct about Mantis Warrior players typing in the comments. Just glad to be mentioned
What a fantastic video, would be great to see other chapters or legions get similar ones
First off a named Deathwatch Lamenters Dreadnought AND an all-Lamenters Kill Team? Stealing those for my DW army. Second off I wonder if that quick trip through prison was a hasty recruitment drive.
Vox in the Void has a great Lamentwrs audio drama called, "Don't Go." I believe
Fun fact: Malakim Phoros actually appears in a Flesh Tearers book, Trial by Blood, where he gets a lick in at Gabriel Seth while he's being questioned by the leaders of the Blood Angels and their successors (so they actually will appear when the Blood Angels call for them, sometimes, especially when it involves dunking on the Flesh Tearers). Malakim says that normal Flesh Tearers make his Death Company look sane, and Gabe gives a pathetic reply to the effect of "Yeah, well, YOU'RE YELLOW AND A COWARD." Even though apparently Malakim Phoros wears gold...
So uhh.... I'm a Lamenters fan now
FOR THOSE WE CHERISH, WE DIE IN GLORY!
This is a bit of an aside, but remember when GW released a new edition of Space Hulk, and it just randomly dropped the lore tidbit that the Blood Angels once lost NINETY PERCENT of their chapter while fighting a Space Hulk? GW is just so casual about mentioning near-catastrophic losses and having Chapters just shrugging them off and apparently forgetting about it in-universe.
Have I missed a bit of lore somewhere? I was always under the impression that the red thirst and black rage were "chapter secrets" to the BA and co, but having a cursed founding chapter made to remove these "issues" implies the Top men know of them, else they wouldn't be trying to remove them.. Hmm
Marines Errant and Errantor made me laugh way more than it should because I make a webcomic called Errant, and there being a hypothetical "Errantor" where the knights have even bigger swords and are even gayer would be kind of great. (Every day I get closer to converting some space marines into Errant Marines Errant...).
Grimlock and his flag ❤
By being unlucky, the Lamenters cycle back to being lucky.
Even if the Imperium falls, the Lamenters will survive.
Well at least Matt Ward did some stuff for the necrons but forever gets the stigma of giving the smurfs more plot armor abuse then gundam wing and seed
I believe you are mixing up Ian Watson with Matt Ward.
@@TheLyokoWarriors oh shit your right
I play Mantis Warriors ):
At least Wib believes in me!
I kinda wish the IG/AM still had rules for Penal Legions, then I could do a force themed around the prison breakout.
Don’t forget The Fall Of Malvolion by Dan Abnett from 2006! In which some Mordians are rescued from the Tyranids by a bunch of Lamenters!
Well, I say ‘rescued’...
Oh hey, I actually have Captain Crabb. If I had one more, I could say I have Crabbs, which would be funny.
Favourite minor chapters... I don't know, Guardians of the Covenant? They look cool.
And the Red Hunters. It may seem redundant to have a chapter of red Space Marines who serve the Inquisition when we already have the Exorcists, but the list at 5:33 has the Angels of Penance, the Angels Penitent, and the Penitents, so redundancy is clearly not something the Imperium is too worried about.
Hey, "Tried to do the right thing and got screwed over for it" Chapter In Yellow(ish) Armour buddies! I personally play the Celestial Lions, who rather than having a spiritual aura of bad luck, simply exist to show what happens when someone who isn't a Space Wolf tries to tangle with the Inquisition. You may know us from the "Ork Snipers" meme.
Tzeench: lets let 'em win a few times.
Slaanesh and Nurgal: why tho?
T: it will be funny watching the unlucky SOBs grow more and more paranoid.
Nurgal: fine im game.
S: sounds like fun.