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Forging Press Vs Power Hammer // Which is Right for You? Hydraulic Press or Power hammer ?

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  • Forging press vs power hammer... Let's see the difference! Which one is right for you... hydraulic press or power hammer?
    Both tools can be very handy to have in the shop, as we address in this forging press video. I discuss the difference between power hammer and power press for forging...
    A blacksmith press hydraulic makes quick work of a thick chunk of steel. You can make your own homemade blacksmith press or purchase a hydraulic forging press for the blacksmith.
    I hope you enjoyed this hydraulic press vs power hammer video. I'll probably start a playslist for more press vs power hammer videos on doing different forging operations.
    I'd love to hear if you have a forging press machine or a blacksmith power hammer! Let me know what power equipment you've got in your shop!
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  • @3amForge
    @3amForge 3 роки тому +5

    "They are not just big squishy things or big smashey things, they are tools."
    A quote that will be remembered and echoed for eternity, like those of DaVinci and Socrates.

  • @MotleyForge
    @MotleyForge 10 місяців тому +1

    I was hoping to meet you this year at Quad State but you were busy when I got to your table so didn’t want to interrupt. You’re way taller than I thought in person! So much cool stuff to purchase at your set up!

  • @Mentalfirmware
    @Mentalfirmware 5 років тому +2

    Thanks for the video. This was a great overview for a newbie. I'll have to look back in your videos and see if you provide any oversight to the build of your hammer and press.

  • @ericmorriscompany9648
    @ericmorriscompany9648 7 років тому +1

    Very interesting. I have been wondering about this for a few weeks now.

  • @DanMarcelino
    @DanMarcelino 6 років тому +18

    about avoiding the press sucking out too much heat.. clamp down a hot piece of steel in the dies and let it sit there while you heat up your work.. that way when its time to work, the dies won't draw out as much heat

    • @JustinTopp
      @JustinTopp 5 років тому

      #RideLife I’m just about to make a press. I’ll keep this in mind!

  • @bobgillis1137
    @bobgillis1137 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for this!

  • @DanMarcelino
    @DanMarcelino 6 років тому +1

    straight up "tooken" bro.. haha nice video man!

  • @gregorysarmiento7777
    @gregorysarmiento7777 Рік тому

    Thank you for the tips

  • @volkeresper9519
    @volkeresper9519 6 років тому

    Very interesting comparison! Thank you!
    Volker

  • @robertlonis9350
    @robertlonis9350 3 роки тому

    Thanks for that I’ve been thinking about a build for one of those real soon

  • @anthonyliberatore426
    @anthonyliberatore426 7 років тому +1

    Great video thank you for the explanation! Slightly off topic but I have the same Mankel forge and was wondering do you have the 3rd port plugged or just the psi dialed back?

  • @mahimahi339
    @mahimahi339 5 років тому +3

    this really helped me decide what i need first

  • @forge52100
    @forge52100 7 років тому +3

    Press and hammer is complimentary to each other. What one is good at the other not so much. Like having both.

    • @ChristCenteredIronworks
      @ChristCenteredIronworks  7 років тому +1

      +forge52100 yep definitely enjoy having both in the shop. They are both great perspective tools :-) thank you for taking the time to watch and comment God bless

  • @kensmapleleafretirement
    @kensmapleleafretirement 4 роки тому

    thank you for the video and chat...

  • @joaomarcelinobatista7661
    @joaomarcelinobatista7661 7 років тому

    Fantastic job

  • @dennistowns7704
    @dennistowns7704 7 років тому +1

    That was very cooooool. Very imformative. Thanks

    • @ChristCenteredIronworks
      @ChristCenteredIronworks  7 років тому

      +Dennis Towns you are very welcome I'm glad you enjoyed the video! Thank you for taking the time to watch God bless

  • @JustinTopp
    @JustinTopp 5 років тому

    I’m making a small press soon. It’s nowhere near as strong as yours but it suits my needs. 6 ton press for drawing out billets and bars. Love both though

  • @andrewoperacz7427
    @andrewoperacz7427 2 роки тому

    Thank you for doing this type of video. Is really like to see more pros and cons. I live in a neighborhood close together houses. So I’m leaning towards a press cause of the noise. Hydraulics can be loud too. But I’m sure a power hammer would be louder in the long run. I think.

  • @eviltwinx
    @eviltwinx 7 років тому +2

    Pretty cool! I don't think I've ever seen a comparison video before.

    • @ChristCenteredIronworks
      @ChristCenteredIronworks  7 років тому

      +eviltwinx thanks man! I think it'll be a pretty cool comparison video series. Hopefully it will help Smith's figure out what type of equipment will work best for them :-)

  • @paulwharton3488
    @paulwharton3488 7 років тому +2

    Thanks Roy, I am looking forward to further videos on this subject. I really appreciate how you are explaining the pros and cons of each machine.

    • @ChristCenteredIronworks
      @ChristCenteredIronworks  7 років тому

      +Paul Wharton you are very welcome thank you for taking the time to watch the video! The next video in the series will hopefully be coming out tomorrow :-)

  • @jasonmacpherson936
    @jasonmacpherson936 4 роки тому

    Vary good comparison.

  • @wackytabackie395
    @wackytabackie395 6 років тому

    hey Roy I was wondering where you got that press from and if you built it can u make a vid on it, or link pdfs if there are any thanks.

  • @grayem76
    @grayem76 7 років тому +1

    i want a press now lol big dog forge made one from a log splitter that works well great way of explaining and great voice over

    • @ChristCenteredIronworks
      @ChristCenteredIronworks  7 років тому

      +grayem pepper thank you very much I'm starting to enjoy some of the voicing over as it helps me save my voice in the shop trying to talk over equipment running :-)

  • @trashman49057
    @trashman49057 7 років тому +1

    Thanks Roy. How about some info on that press you built? Looks interesting, have a blessed day bro

    • @ChristCenteredIronworks
      @ChristCenteredIronworks  7 років тому

      +Joe Gregory I may do a walk-around of it in the future. Thank you for taking the time to watch and God bless you today and the rest of this week

  • @joaomarcelinobatista7661
    @joaomarcelinobatista7661 7 років тому +2

    Do you have a video or photo of this hydraulic press?

  • @robbinghook3571
    @robbinghook3571 5 років тому

    I built a press smaller than this and I like it because it's much more calmer than any other thing.

  • @veronicastewart1959
    @veronicastewart1959 3 роки тому

    Do you have a video on making the press ? I’m trying to learn how to blacksmith and would like to make my own . Thanks

  • @joaomarcelinobatista7661
    @joaomarcelinobatista7661 7 років тому +1

    How did you make this hydraulic press?

  • @Freetheworldnow
    @Freetheworldnow 6 років тому

    Would be good if you told what tonnage for each machine and what differences you could get having higher or lower tonnage on either of them. Thanks!!

  • @thingmaker3
    @thingmaker3 4 роки тому

    I'm curios: what are the power ratings on the motors for the two machines in this video?

  • @civildronemusic
    @civildronemusic 5 років тому

    Nice video, but it would help if you named your playlists more intuitively. I can't find the other video☺

  • @stagemansmithy7470
    @stagemansmithy7470 6 років тому

    I think an extensive video o. How you built your power hammer and press would benefit us guys out there that also don't have enough money to buy them

  • @Seamusyt1396
    @Seamusyt1396 3 роки тому

    Hi late getting into hot forging did cold forging most of my young life but as I am developing carpletunnel I am looking for the right tool to offset hand hammering when having to hand hammer for long periods of time I am fairly new to it but again did a lot of manual labor in life so body at what it used to be this has always been a passion and now I have the money to start any advise would be awesome

  • @Bucksmith88
    @Bucksmith88 7 років тому +5

    I've been noticing that there is a lot of people using the press for forge welding would that be better then power hammer? maybe you can do a video comparing the 2.

    • @ChristCenteredIronworks
      @ChristCenteredIronworks  7 років тому +2

      +bucksmith88 I definitely plan on making that type of comparison video in the future. The one coming out next is the differences between the two drawling out material.

  • @olegahg
    @olegahg 6 років тому

    What hp motor is your power hammer? Thanks

  • @williambarnhartblacksmith414
    @williambarnhartblacksmith414 5 років тому +1

    Another thing to mention is the fact that power hammers one has and presses one has may not even be directly comparable to pressure/ force to have an accurate comparison in forging time. A 25lb little giant hammer may not be very reasonably comparable to a 50 ton press.

  • @xxfreedomxx9479
    @xxfreedomxx9479 3 роки тому

    Can you please tell me is hydraulic press or power hammer better

  • @justsaynotoboomers
    @justsaynotoboomers 6 років тому +1

    I know nothing about smithing, but on that power hammer, wouldn't it make more sense for the base platform to be a little larger than the hammer head coming down?

  • @cgmcpherson33
    @cgmcpherson33 7 років тому +1

    I just built a 50 pound Hammer should have done a press first do u sell the plans for that press set up

    • @ChristCenteredIronworks
      @ChristCenteredIronworks  7 років тому

      +Curtis McPherson I currently do not sell plans for this press. This was my first time making a press and so therefore there is a lot of things I would change before I put it in plan phase. I'm planning on creating plans for this press or one very similar by fall of next year so stay tuned I guess :-) thanks for watching God bless you today

  • @sam_lada
    @sam_lada 7 років тому +3

    So are the plans for the press on your website? Because I can't find em..

    • @ChristCenteredIronworks
      @ChristCenteredIronworks  7 років тому +1

      +s@m_nijholt thank you for the great question and watching the video. I will not have plans available for a press until sometime next fall.

    • @sam_lada
      @sam_lada 7 років тому +2

      Christ Centered Ironworks alright thanks for the response. Keep doing what your doing man!

    • @ChristCenteredIronworks
      @ChristCenteredIronworks  7 років тому +1

      +s@m_nijholt will do and thank you for taking the time to watch all these videos :-) God bless you today and whatever you get yourself into as long as it's legal LOL

    • @sam_lada
      @sam_lada 7 років тому

      Christ Centered Ironworks thanks that won't be a problem unless blacksmithing is illegal lol

    • @johnsawyer778
      @johnsawyer778 6 років тому

      Looking forward to seeing the plans as well! Loving the videos

  • @robertgreen1286
    @robertgreen1286 Рік тому

    Where are places for good priced presses?

  • @codyorvis6598
    @codyorvis6598 4 роки тому

    Boy that angle grinder took a while at the start what type of cutoff wheel were you using

  • @stickermigtigger
    @stickermigtigger 9 місяців тому

    You need both. Buy a power hammer and build your own press from a 25 ton log splitter. And there ya go! 😁

  • @maryberry7078
    @maryberry7078 6 років тому

    Induction coil the dies I draw out 1 inch stock 45 inches in one heat. I use a mot grounded.

  • @asimpson164
    @asimpson164 Рік тому

    Seems like there is more control with the P. Hammer than the H. Press because it would be easier to go too far with the press.

  • @boediethebuilder918
    @boediethebuilder918 7 років тому +1

    so get both ok

  • @RobertShyanNorwalt
    @RobertShyanNorwalt 6 років тому

    I've used both for 30 years. I mostly used the PH until my elbows were shot. The PH was faster for some operations and not as loud. But for punching and die work the Hydraulics are best, but for drawing billets slower. Now I'm 60 and just can't take the shock of the PH.

    • @NK-ne9uf
      @NK-ne9uf 9 місяців тому

      This interesting. I wouldn’t have considered the shock generated by a PH

  • @gregoryarbuckle624
    @gregoryarbuckle624 2 роки тому

    👍

  • @isaacconley4005
    @isaacconley4005 6 років тому

    I have made several power hammers ,and i find power hammers are easier to make from scrap than presses

  • @TheShepherd2305
    @TheShepherd2305 6 років тому +1

    I liked the video as soon as I saw "Christ centered Ironeorks". I don't usually look at the name of the channel unless I enjoy the video enough to "like" it so I had no idea that was your channels name until I started writing this comment. Keep on keeping on, God bless!

  • @simonschurian8448
    @simonschurian8448 5 років тому

    I think I have a good idea for a press with a car jack
    There would be a (cordless) drill mounted to the Jack.
    The only problem would be to put the drill in reverse mode. I thought about an electric motor with a little circuit in it and a pedal from a sewing machine but that would probably a bit to high-tech for me🤷

    • @macjram40
      @macjram40 5 років тому

      Rostissiere motor. Slow and powerful. Don't know if they reverse, good luck.

  • @KowboyUSA
    @KowboyUSA 7 років тому

    Power hammer shaking the World.

  • @louf7178
    @louf7178 6 років тому

    How do these things get such usable control of the gap distance?

    • @Broadpaw_Fox
      @Broadpaw_Fox 6 років тому

      Lou Fazio - the control mechanism is connected to a large foot pedal that you have to use to operate them. Check out some other build videos and you see...

    • @louf7178
      @louf7178 6 років тому +1

      Eric K Ahh, thanks. That isn't often shown. This tells enough that there is some sort of on-the-fly adjustment.

  • @robbinghook3571
    @robbinghook3571 5 років тому

    The major difference is loss of heat!
    With the press the work piece is in touch with a the pressing bodies longer than in the hammering process.

  • @philipp594
    @philipp594 2 роки тому

    So essentially powerhammer introduced heat back into the billet, is more precise. Really expensive and specialised.
    Build / buy a press first then a powerhammer. Thanks

  • @joaomarcelinobatista7661
    @joaomarcelinobatista7661 7 років тому +2

    Hello brother show us this hydraulic press

    • @ChristCenteredIronworks
      @ChristCenteredIronworks  7 років тому

      +MARCELINO BATISTA I just might in the future! Thanks for taking the time to watch

  • @joaomarcelinobatista7661
    @joaomarcelinobatista7661 7 років тому +1

    You have video showing your hydraulic press better.

  • @nathanwhite4197
    @nathanwhite4197 5 років тому +1

    Do you have plans for your power hammer?

  • @chittychad18
    @chittychad18 7 років тому +2

    oh thank god, I didn't know power hammers or presses are tools!

  • @monroesweldingservices6234
    @monroesweldingservices6234 3 роки тому

    I say press imo it's just so much easier takes a bit longer but not as wild and out of control as a hammer slow is steady steady ud fast

  • @billsiegel1783
    @billsiegel1783 5 років тому

    I don’t think any of them Won. The hydraulic Forge would help you get started and set, especially if using multiple layers. And a hammer forged would help you the rest of the way. I think I’ll have to build both.Because they have two distinct jobs. I’ll build the power hammer first. Thank you for the video.

  • @zoesdada8923
    @zoesdada8923 4 роки тому

    They are completely different tools for completely different jobs.

  • @althesmith
    @althesmith Рік тому

    First rule of building a press is get comfortable with math. Or have a friend who is.

  • @Wabuh-Wabuh
    @Wabuh-Wabuh Рік тому

    only 35 pund power hammer

  • @jasonlennonalves7429
    @jasonlennonalves7429 6 років тому

    Algum brasileiro assistindo?

  • @piotrwojciechowski7998
    @piotrwojciechowski7998 6 років тому

    Hi nice video. To be onest this power hammer od relatively small. My power hammer is from old times 1958, simular to this russian. Theo hammer is 80kg and IT hits 50-80 times stronger. In a free timer i can sens you my video with such a metal dice. IT can be comperable to yours press.
    Metal squising by hammer is much beter. The metal have more spreded and dense structure. Specialy whan you have goodbye quality steel.

  • @EaselCat
    @EaselCat 4 роки тому

    Can you make some jesus nails.

  • @zackworrell535
    @zackworrell535 5 років тому +2

    "squishy things or smashy things" are you your real? I'm pretty sure anyone watching this knows the general difference

  • @michaelvaughn2287
    @michaelvaughn2287 4 роки тому

    Waist of my time

  • @phillbradshaw7190
    @phillbradshaw7190 2 роки тому

    I don't need the lecture at beginning
    Totally turned me off
    👎 👎