Does Da Vinci’s 500 Year-Old Power Hammer Actually Work?

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  • Опубліковано 28 гру 2022
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    Around 500 years ago, Leonardo Da Vinci sketched a simple, compact trip hammer design using a spiraling cam. This could be a useful machine for the HTME shop. Find out what happens when we try to build the da Vinci cam-hammer to help with blacksmithing projects moving forward.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 926

  • @richardparsons7012
    @richardparsons7012 Рік тому +1672

    Looking at the chips from the auger, and the tear outs on the various edge tools, an episode focusing on sharpening tech would help you along a lot. The metallurgy and tech is really interesting, but a sharp tool is only as good as the edge worked in. Now you're into good quality materials, you can really benefit from the attention to edges. Thinking contextually, the tools were huge investments, and the folk using them knew how to get the best out of them.

    • @alexandernewman7587
      @alexandernewman7587 Рік тому +60

      Watching that drawknife hack it's way up the log... Yeah.

    • @kassiog.6595
      @kassiog.6595 Рік тому +55

      Well, with the automation vibe, a grinding wheel is a must

    • @headstanding_Penguin
      @headstanding_Penguin Рік тому +9

      Same with the saw and the theets on that thing...

    • @cfv1984
      @cfv1984 Рік тому +11

      I'd seriously love to see your videos on historical tool sharpening. You seem to know a lot about it and I could use some learning on the topic

    • @richardparsons7012
      @richardparsons7012 Рік тому +19

      @@cfv1984 I've got a ton of old books, and some info on woodworking tools going back through archaeological records. Carpentry is my job, and interest. Tools have been under microscopes to establish the abrasives used, for example. And for the era relating to this video; there are documents and surviving examples. Sorry, no I don't have a ten minute video.

  • @Earthenfist
    @Earthenfist Рік тому +367

    Hm... I think they've missed a little bit of the point of the system- DaVinci's drawing showed the cam acting on an arm at a right angle to the hammer, on the opposite side of the fulcrum- I think that was an important part of the design, since it meant that there was more mechanical advantage on the hammer and would require less rotational force. This would allow you to use a heavier hammer, possibly set it up with a longer swing, and hand-crank it without getting tired.

    • @boelwerkr
      @boelwerkr Рік тому +73

      It makes the machine also more efficient, because the hammer can fall freely. How the construction is now the fall of the hammer is limited by the speed of the rotating element. It can be seen when it's moved very slowly. It's the same reason why in hammer mills the hammer is actuated at the end with and not from under neath.
      Also in very old machined stones where stacked on the hammer head to increase the weight without investing in expensive metal.

    • @jllaine
      @jllaine Рік тому +23

      Also, the hammer shaft is dropping on top of the cam, limiting its free swing and wasting lots of energy striking the cam instead of the anvil. Operating the cam against the end of the hammer arm would drop the hammer more freely for better striking.

    • @thomasmarton2857
      @thomasmarton2857 Рік тому +16

      When designers have to engineer 😅

    • @kafuu_chino
      @kafuu_chino Рік тому +6

      The lever length should be barely past the cam axel, which would allow for much a slower turning speed while having a quick drop. Slow and strong hits are ideal.

    • @oldvlognewtricks
      @oldvlognewtricks Рік тому +1

      @@kafuu_chino If you copy Leonardo’s design, it wouldn’t matter - the hammer would drop the same regardless of the rotation speed, since the peg holding it would fall all the way off the high point of the cam without obstruction.

  • @adamchurvis1
    @adamchurvis1 Рік тому +272

    It's not making a full impact because the hammer handle is being hit by the cam when it falls. Relieve another inch of material from the smallest part of the nautilus and continue that removal for another 120 degrees of rotation.

    • @nutwiss
      @nutwiss Рік тому +12

      Yep - the hammer's shaft is landing on the cam before the hammer head actually contacts the anvil.

    • @blahfasel2000
      @blahfasel2000 Рік тому +20

      No matter how you shave the cam the hammer handle will always ride the tip of the largest radius down through the rotation. It's never really free to fall. That's why the original DaVinci design in the drawing has the cam acting on the end of the handle opposite of the fulcrum instead of between the fulcrum and the head, so that the end can slip off the cam and swing freely.

    • @adamchurvis1
      @adamchurvis1 Рік тому +4

      @@blahfasel2000 Yes, excellent point, sir. I should have thought of that. The only way it would have missed contacting the handle is if the rotational speed was high enough to outrun the hammer-fall. Thanks for pointing this out, sir.

    • @renagenic
      @renagenic Рік тому

      @@blahfasel2000 of course 1 it's free to fall, if it was shaped like a real cam, then I understand what you mean by it always being in contact riding the top radius, but, because it ISN'T shaped like a cam, it falls at 9.8M/S^2, it already had just enough room to fit the anvil, if it was hitting the wood, it would not be making the metal on metal sound.
      yes, the stake could be driven deeper, but when he put the metal to be hammered, in, even when the metal mostly cooled, it didn't drive the stake any further into the log, so I guess the first few times when it was coming off randomly, would have been when it must have hammered to the depth it could handle, from that fall, of that hammer.
      I think they must have changed the shape, slightly, so they could raise its axis, unless they moved out further down the fulcrum too

    • @lassikinnunen
      @lassikinnunen 11 місяців тому

      ​@@blahfasel2000 its free to fall up to the cam or the nail provided its rotating faster than freefal acceleration would keep it riding on the cam, it wouldn't be able to ride on the cam anyway through the whole rotation as the hammer hit surface would not let the hammer get so down.
      The cam axis should be lower too and longer handle for the hammer. The cam itself could be different shape tho too, just 45 sector from the middle being full height and everything else 0 height of it would suffice provided the power source has enough torque

  • @zinovyrozhestvensky652
    @zinovyrozhestvensky652 Рік тому +22

    I love how when he said “alternative power source” the water wheel was in the background, nice editing effect

  • @joshjones6072
    @joshjones6072 6 місяців тому +4

    Leonardo was always ahead of his available materials and energy by 400 years. But he had a vision of what was possible! He paved the way for so many things! All of what he could conceive came to pass. Amazing man.

  • @Jay-qs1ef
    @Jay-qs1ef Рік тому +120

    The handle of the hammer is hitting the wheel, which prevents the hammer from completing the swinging motion all the way. Shave down the part of the wheel directly after the drop off so that the hammer rests completely on the anvil (until the wheel turns and then lifts it up again). A better way of doing this would have been to put the wheel on the back of the hammer, extend the handle of the hammer, and flip the wheel around so that it pushes down on the handle of the hammer instead of lifting it (this would cause less stress to the structures and take less energy to operate).

    • @jarekmace1536
      @jarekmace1536 Рік тому +7

      Principles of leverage. Placing the cam at the rear end of the handle would take more energy to lift the hammer head. 1 lb. at the end of a 3 ft. shaft has to be countered by a 3 lb. load at the end of a 1 lb. shaft for an equity of 3 lb.-ft. of load. However, it would allow for a longer swinging arc of the hammer, creating a stronger blow. It just means that you'd need 2 people to do the work, one on the anvil and one on the crank, without some creative and excessive gearing to transfer power from the anvil area.

    • @sadistksuffring1537
      @sadistksuffring1537 Рік тому +1

      definitely
      wouldn't work that way unless you make the handle stick out farther than the hammer does. ever try holding a door open near the hinges?

    • @latemanparodius5133
      @latemanparodius5133 Рік тому +4

      What would be better is using the cam to push against a peg sticking out from the sides of the handle. Nothing to get in the way of it dropping. Ride up, then drop.

    • @Jay-qs1ef
      @Jay-qs1ef Рік тому

      @@sadistksuffring1537 that's why I put extend the handle out, gotta be a long handle

    • @Jay-qs1ef
      @Jay-qs1ef Рік тому

      @@latemanparodius5133 I was thinking that too great idea :D

  • @Thechaos0001
    @Thechaos0001 Рік тому +12

    great video, why is it unlisted?

  • @fujin657
    @fujin657 8 місяців тому +3

    i love this series so much because as a blacksmith who's not interested in making weapons as much it's so annoying when people think that's all blacksmiths are and this shows a different (what i think is the more interesting side ) of blacksmithing.

  • @maxk4324
    @maxk4324 Рік тому +12

    Mechanical engineer here. 7:05 is almost exactly how we were taught to design cams in university. There are of course software packages you could use for this, but they started by teaching us all the manual drafting techniques before moving on to CAD. As ol fashioned as it sounds I think I learned quite a lot about good design practice from that part of course. Really made you have to internalize the geometry of things to be able to draft it accurately by hand.

    • @DGHamblin
      @DGHamblin Рік тому +1

      Designing the cam... Would it also work to tie a string to a pencil, and then wrap the string around a disk?
      As you rotate the pencil back around the disk, the string would unwind increasing the radius as you draw. The "drop" of the cam would be the same as the circumference of the disk. The length of string would determine the overall size of the cam.
      But I'm just an old country boy, what do I know?

  • @BearCavazos
    @BearCavazos Рік тому +22

    Hey HTME! Y'all are awesome! Thank you for this awesome video! I'm a bladesmith myself, and I dabble in woodworking. If y'all put wedges in the pegs, it will be a much tighter fit. The cams look very sturdy. I am lazy and hate maintenance, so I try to make things as me proof (idiot proof) as possible. You guys killed it just a thought for future projects.

  • @karyjas1
    @karyjas1 Рік тому +117

    A good upgrade would be to add a spring, maybe something like a crossbow to add tension. Also use graphite to lube the whole surface of the cam and the joints

    • @patriciofreire3375
      @patriciofreire3375 Рік тому +6

      These are my thoughts exactly. And this is why it’s good to read the comments before adding my own.

    • @kendallguier1378
      @kendallguier1378 Рік тому

      I agree though if you want to be accurate they would have probably used to lead for the cam rip your kids

    • @ReaperCodes1911
      @ReaperCodes1911 Рік тому

      @@patriciofreire3375 i just found yours. i was thinking the exact same

    • @blahfasel2000
      @blahfasel2000 Рік тому +5

      A better "upgrade" would be to move the cam to where daVinci actually had it, on the tail end of the handle on the opposite side of the fulcrum. When the cam is between the fulcrum and the head the handle will always ride the cam down through the rotation, because the "step" in the cam cannot turn from vertical (where the hammer head reaches its highest point) to horizontal (where the protruding part of the cam is out of the way of the handle) instantly. No amount of springs, heavier head etc. can change that fundamental flaw.

    • @oldvlognewtricks
      @oldvlognewtricks Рік тому

      Why add something complex like tension to something simple an effective like a gravity hammer? Just add more weight/mechanical advantage, rather than having to manufacture spring steel or something else under tension that would degrade.
      Nobody wants gut or other bowstrings in a forge environment… unless you want to be replacing them all the time.

  • @Guru_1092
    @Guru_1092 Рік тому +5

    Lauren's nails looking absolutely fabulous in this video. 💯💅

  • @RealAndySkibba
    @RealAndySkibba Рік тому +3

    Could put some boards on either side of the sledge to keep it from moving side to side. Lash them outside the perimeter of the cam.

  • @elijahhutchinson3031
    @elijahhutchinson3031 Рік тому +2

    I built a similar hammer for my home blacksmith shop based on your design. I used innertube rubber to pull the hammer up to it's max swing height (instead of a cam) and a treadle to pull the hammer to the anvil with every step. It works pretty well but I ran into the same trouble as Andy. The hammer is limited by it's weight as well as it's ability to be dropped to the anvil in a controlled way. I do think that a treadle attached to the hammer handle with a cord allows it to be pulled with greater force than gravity alone. The davinci design was conceptualized, presumably with a massive hammer, for industrial use. Anyway, thanks for the inspiration! It's pretty cool and I wouldn't have such a fun tool if I hadn't watched your videos.

  • @matthewmarting3623
    @matthewmarting3623 Рік тому +2

    It warms my heart to see how far you’ve come in creating things. I noticed you properly hafted the sledgehammer by hitting the handle at the end and forged a quite respectable crank (including some decorative twists). In a few more years you’ll be an expert at so many things

  • @Animallovingpermie
    @Animallovingpermie Рік тому +6

    I'd like to see a video comparing your different tools and how much of a step up in efficiency each was compared to previous. like how much faster a bronze hatchet cut versus the stone one.

  • @onebrickatatime9097
    @onebrickatatime9097 Рік тому +5

    I would love to see you make more of these automated machines. Nice.

  • @prichard6836
    @prichard6836 Рік тому +1

    I have to say, you’ve all gotten much better at using the tools you’ve fabricated. Especially your forging skills. You’ve gotten to the point where you add a flair to your projects just because you can

  • @thisolesignguy2733
    @thisolesignguy2733 Рік тому +2

    I think your next project should be a wood hewing bench. I can tell you guys are in dire need of one if you keep doing projects like these. Also, check Mr. Chickadee. He builds everything (buildings, tools, etc.) all with vintage hand tools and techniques. He would really help you guys get an idea on how to do these types of projects without struggling too much.

  • @EntrappedSoul
    @EntrappedSoul Рік тому +9

    you could always try a foot pedal system like they used for grinding wheels when they sharpen axes and such...and possibly a leaf spring to help bounce the hammer back up to keep momentum up and catch at almost the peak of the cam so it can then be set and to have a control on the speed of the hammer

    • @scasny
      @scasny Рік тому

      i seen such a thing, large hammer on long springy branch that you bring down by rope attached to a plank you stepped on, it work quite well, you have free hand and its more powerful then one handed hammer. Also you can use smaller weight and made up power with swing speed, or be slower by using heavy weight exploiting momentum. Its sort of similar to medieval lathe.

  • @KingJupiter
    @KingJupiter Рік тому +11

    She always seems so genuinly happy which makes me genuinly happy on top of being well entertained by the things you guys construct

    • @laurenapolis
      @laurenapolis Рік тому +2

      Ah this is really sweet! Thank you 😊

  • @Evpat2000
    @Evpat2000 Рік тому +1

    Brilliant! It's amazing how many things that Da Vinci came up with that are in use today.

  • @mtbrocket
    @mtbrocket Рік тому +1

    So much work for such short videos. I really appreciate the effort you and your team put into these videos. How far you have come in experience and learning. Bravo. 🎉😊

  • @Jordan-hu8fg
    @Jordan-hu8fg Рік тому +3

    cant wait for the next video looks like finally going to get a water wheel

  • @danacoleman4007
    @danacoleman4007 Рік тому +8

    I just can't believe you did all of that stuff in under 13 minutes 😁

    • @Akren905
      @Akren905 Рік тому

      Welcome to age-ed hipsters make in less then 20 minutes lol

  • @sammacias8390
    @sammacias8390 Рік тому +2

    could put a chamfer on the bearing surfaces of the cam to allow the hammer to track better

  • @stevenking3286
    @stevenking3286 Рік тому +1

    So much work required in the "old" days, all muscle no fat, most of us are soft and would be sore as heck the day after. Thankfully DeWalt and Milwaukee helped us out. Enjoyed the video and your commitment of doing everything the Pioneer way.

  • @asdfjoe123
    @asdfjoe123 Рік тому +4

    Another thing that might improve this is making the cam smaller so that when the hammer drops it hits the anvil before it hits the cam.
    A lot of the 'oomph' is being lost to contact with the cam.

  • @cosmicbrambleclawv2
    @cosmicbrambleclawv2 Рік тому +8

    Love the video :D as a smith myself this is going to be a huge help because traditional power hammers are priiiicey and I don't have a dedicated shop for one anyway
    One adjustment I would suggest is to add a treadle so you can use both hands on the project rather than one on the crank
    Roy Underhill from the Woodright Shop on PBS made a foot powered treadle lathe once I believe (he's actually fairly local :D town or two over) but with your water wheel I'm sure you could even do that fairly easily with a belt and wheel system (akin to a car's timing belt) but a foot treadle would probably allow more precise work and modern power hammers use a foot bar to regulate the speed

    • @Tvngsten
      @Tvngsten Рік тому +3

      A treadle with a flywheel would actually be awesome for this kind of hammer.

  • @brt5273
    @brt5273 Рік тому +1

    It's a fine first attempt to get an understanding of what works and what needs redesigning. Lots of room for improvement but a very inspiring project. I can imagine setting up a treadle with a flywheel to drive the cam disc, which could also provide a more stable and smoother turning axle.

  • @raymondraptorclaw2901
    @raymondraptorclaw2901 11 місяців тому +2

    As a dude who built his own power hammer, the best idea I got for it is a pulley mechanism. That way, you can pull the hammer up as high as you want and let it come down.

  • @jannepeltonen2036
    @jannepeltonen2036 Рік тому +13

    This looks really interesting and fun. Also am a bit horrified about this thing being connected to a relentless power source such as a waterwheel. I'd like to first make it quite a bit more sturdy and fault tolerant. Maybe add sliders on both sides of the hammer handle so it really cannot fall off the cam?

  • @jonathanhadden8199
    @jonathanhadden8199 Рік тому +4

    You definitely need to adjust the shape of the cam since most of the time, it was barely even hitting anvil. The hammer is being caught by the cam, especially when you try and spin it quickly.

  • @nathantron
    @nathantron Рік тому +1

    Glad to see the shop coming together. Shop tour time!!!

  • @olbluetundra881
    @olbluetundra881 Рік тому +1

    You know in the title it shows da Vince's hammer wheel. As someone who has built hi machine using a 12 oz ballpeen hammer. I made 1 mod to it. I ended up making the cam for the movement of the hammer adjustable up and down by screws so I could add shims basically. It actually worked pretty good. The problem I found was the release point to allow the hammer to fall and strike the workpoint. So I made another mod later. I used a twisted rope with a screw adjustable tension so I could increase strike force. Amazing what he had done so long ago. Fun designs to play with also. I've even built a cutie chunker entirely out of an old oak tree I cut down to test designs and to see how I could improve upon it.

  • @DragGon7601
    @DragGon7601 Рік тому +3

    Couldnt you increase the power by giving it a longer handle/move the anvil father from the crank?

  • @gustavholm6193
    @gustavholm6193 Рік тому +3

    Just an idea: Why not exchange that hand crank for a pedal system? Then you got your hands free for moving around the metal that you might be smithing on the anvil and you drive down the amount of operators from 2 to 1.
    Love the video btw ^-^

  • @WasatchWind
    @WasatchWind Рік тому +2

    That bizarre moment where I casually post your video in a discord and some idiot freaks out about your ad read saying air purifiers are inherently dangerous or some nonsense.
    Great video regardless, glad to see bigger projects like this again!

    • @jamesmccallum3781
      @jamesmccallum3781 Рік тому +1

      You don't get it! Air purifiers ARE dangerous! Once it finishes purifying dust and contaminants out of the air, it will start purifying out the oxygen, and you won't be able to breathe!

  • @nickg5250
    @nickg5250 Рік тому

    one of the best channels out there, and glad you were able to make it past the shop fire. cheers for 2023!

  • @CharlieBrownsApocalypse
    @CharlieBrownsApocalypse Рік тому +4

    Nice. I’m about to enjoy the hell out of this

  • @paulmiller6545
    @paulmiller6545 Рік тому +6

    I love it allready, but don’t hit a metal ax with a metal hammer, use a large wooden mallet! You could break the ax otherwise.

  • @Herr_Scheissemann
    @Herr_Scheissemann Рік тому +2

    Andy, add more length to the hammer arm so you'd have more height for the hammer to swing at full force. Cool project BTW..

  • @memoegz0187
    @memoegz0187 Рік тому +1

    That was awesome I'm glad your back and uploading !!!!! Hope everything Is going good for you guys bless you and your team

  • @niznwnw6091
    @niznwnw6091 Рік тому +11

    Rotate the wheel 90 degrees and power it from the back
    You will be able to use a smaller wheel
    The drawback is it will need mor force to rotate as the torc you will need to aply will be higher
    Edit: oh and you will have to make a new base for the whole thing the can support the wheel and the anvil, as the weel will be pepindicular to the support beams and you will have to build the base around it

  • @mikelauramcguire
    @mikelauramcguire Рік тому +3

    You could also add a spring that would pull the hammer down with more force than gravity alone.

    • @Kurokubi
      @Kurokubi 10 місяців тому

      Coil springs didn't exist during the Renaissance, granted I don't know if this channel tries to keep things accurate to the time period

  • @dullahanblack3090
    @dullahanblack3090 Рік тому +2

    I keep seeing on tv a foot pedal grinding wheel that seems to work like your lathe, maybe that could be a project

  • @Madman2429
    @Madman2429 Рік тому +2

    The falling off the cam problem would have also been solved by sanding or filing a groove into the cams face. Gluing a second cam in place did a similar trick, as the space between the two formed a guiding groove.
    A lot of their joints in the frame could use a second dowel/nail could improve performance by redeffort lost to the frame twisting.

  • @velazquezarmouries
    @velazquezarmouries Рік тому +3

    A treadle hammer would have been better because our legs have more power and it can be worked with a pole or a bow like a lathe

  • @paulklee5790
    @paulklee5790 Рік тому +7

    Fascinating stuff... just to say given Leonardo’s mathematical turn of mind I’m sure he would have given a lot of thought and care to the exact curves of the cam geometry. Laying out a pretty good approximation of a spiral is easily done with a compass or trammel (after all the Greeks were using volutes on capitals two millennia earlier) and the smooth running of the machine is down to how the rotational energy is transformation to the hammer. When it comes to the mechanics of gears and leavers, the devil is in the details....

  • @TheRokkis
    @TheRokkis Рік тому

    Whoever edits these is doing a great job. It's the small things like sped up hammering working out with music. I tip my fedora to thee!

  • @colelewis2482
    @colelewis2482 Рік тому +1

    I loved rex's appearance. I saw the words come up for one frame and had to figure it out.

  • @ishnifusmeadle
    @ishnifusmeadle Рік тому +3

    If u enlarge the cam, also keep in mind the cam start point. It appears like the hammer is hitting the cam som when it drops so maybe adjusting the shap a small amount to ensure it doesn't happen. Maybe some oil or beeswax on the hammer shaft/cam/axles to reduce friction n increase efficiency too.

  • @isaacgraff8288
    @isaacgraff8288 Рік тому +11

    Trip hammers are interesting chunks of history.

  • @mattkhosh
    @mattkhosh Рік тому

    Love this channel and the content! Thanks HTME team!

  • @papaown
    @papaown Рік тому

    There's something really fresh about the videos and I can't put a finger on it. The camera work is great and you finally changed that same song you'd use every single video lol. I like it

  • @ke9tv
    @ke9tv Рік тому +20

    I was wondering when you were going to build a trip hammer. You've been working iron for a while. In China, fineries equipped with fining hearth, chafery and trip hammer date back to the 3rd century BCE. With a well equipped finery, you can make bog iron into fine Damascus steel!

  • @skeleton_craftGaming
    @skeleton_craftGaming Рік тому +4

    I bet especially with that axe. that was a battle axe. (you can tell because it has a large portion cut out of it making it lighter where as tree axes have more metal added to them to make them heavier.)

  • @Stahlengel13
    @Stahlengel13 Рік тому +1

    I like the waterwheel just chilling in the background...

  • @SparJar
    @SparJar Рік тому

    Switching to the more modern axe head while hewing the log instead of while felling the tree is just golden content. Lol

  • @josephm6734
    @josephm6734 Рік тому +8

    Why is this unlisted?

    • @68able2
      @68able2 Рік тому +4

      mayeb they are checking how many people click by notification on upload

    • @kasnitch
      @kasnitch Рік тому +4

      it showed up in notifications but not in my feed when I refreshed ...

    • @Fisheiyy
      @Fisheiyy Рік тому +1

      maybe for patreon early watch but instead of unlisting they published at first and then fixed

  • @DimiDzi
    @DimiDzi Рік тому +8

    you can always just use a kick hammer like the drum's but for blacksmithing

    • @jhoughjr1
      @jhoughjr1 Рік тому

      we had a kick hammer in my high school shop to make sawdust pucks.

  • @aidenburgess217
    @aidenburgess217 Рік тому

    The Scientific terminology "its gonna, BAP BAP BAP," is gold. Great video!

  • @elijahsanders3547
    @elijahsanders3547 Рік тому +1

    Pretty cool video. Would love to see it further developed. Thank God for machinery!

  • @grimtin10
    @grimtin10 Рік тому +2

    why is this unlisted

  • @therealeikichionizuka
    @therealeikichionizuka Рік тому +4

    bros been playing minecraft im real life for years and i just now noticed. i remember when you was on the stone age

  • @coleeolee
    @coleeolee Рік тому +1

    You should def look into creating a proto gearbox to attach to a weight and the hammer. Idk if that technology was created yet, but it would be a simple solution to a lot of your problems with sawing, hammering, etc.

  • @SkellyBobRoss
    @SkellyBobRoss Рік тому

    Every time I watch this I realize how important it is to be working with groups of people and for people to specialize in what they do.

  • @iamnotgood5710
    @iamnotgood5710 Рік тому +1

    You may have already made this connection because I’m a little behind on your vids but it just struck me that the fire that got your old workshop sort of simulates a natural disaster that sets back a civilization.

  • @KeithOlson
    @KeithOlson Рік тому +1

    FWIW, instead of making the hammer head heavier, you could add a weight connected between the cam and the head. The weight could be on the end of a beam that pivots below the hammer's pivot, so both rise in sync via a rod that connects the two beams.

  • @JessWLStuart
    @JessWLStuart Рік тому +1

    I love Lauren's enthusiasm!

  • @comfortablegrey
    @comfortablegrey Рік тому +1

    This is some of my favorite content. I bet Archimedes, Leonardo Da Vinci, and all manner of Indian or Chinese inventors could inspire new videos for the channel now that you're in the iron and steel era!

  • @theburningman5047
    @theburningman5047 7 місяців тому +1

    Working by hand makes you strong. It gives you a muscular frame. I prefer to hammer something by hand, to an automated process any day. I only use powertools when it needs to be precise

  • @jameslocke3069
    @jameslocke3069 Рік тому

    This is a popular first hammer among hobby blacksmiths. Add a couple of trampoline springs to the hammer handle for the extra bang. Also considered sheathing the outside of the cam with sheet metal for a smoother operation and to keep the two pieces of wood from wearing each other out.

  • @BombingCarpets
    @BombingCarpets 7 місяців тому

    Doing all that work with immaculate nails. Love it!!!

  • @chrisfox961
    @chrisfox961 Рік тому

    It is good to know that hanging out with Andy is a great way to get hammered!

  • @genelomas332
    @genelomas332 Рік тому +1

    As a proof of concept, you've done well.. to take it to the next level and make it actually functional, there's a few modifications you'll need to make.
    For an external power source you just need to harness a water wheel or windmill, something to provide power to turn a drive belt.
    Then through various sized belts and pulleys you can increase the speed and torque to lift the hammer higher and faster.
    Clean, accurate holes with dense timber bushings (soaked in oil or wax) will give a smooth operation and reduce friction.
    To manage the speed of the hammer you need a spring-loaded foot pedal which will adjust the tension of the final belt, allowing the belt to slip when the pedal is released, and tightening it when it's depressed.
    To control the accuracy of the hammer through its range of travel, you'll need to snug up all the pivot and rotation points, (your current tolerances are too wide, allowing a lot of 'slop' in the system, and this is wasted energy).
    You'll also need a couple of guide rails either side of the hammer handle, just forward of the cam lifter.
    These rails will need to be made from a very stiff and hard wood (and also need to be replaceable) as they'll wear over time. Ditto the hammer handle and the cam itself.
    Once you have these additions, the final thing is to brace it and add a lot of mass to the base so it is solid and doesn't dance around your workshop when in use...

  • @benjamintudor821
    @benjamintudor821 Рік тому

    I just want to Complement them for how hard they work on each and every project and they are really great about their work and they don’t give up

  • @g4all205
    @g4all205 Рік тому

    Great video. It was very interesting and fun. Some suggestions though as far as potentially improving this device.
    -bigger heavier hammer
    -larger wheel for it to go up higher
    -playing with gear ratios so the wheel spins faster
    -add some sort of spring, bow or other tensioning method so the hammer wants to go down beside from gravity

  • @trindal359
    @trindal359 Рік тому +1

    This channel is likely to be curriculum for students of technology, for years to come. Great job! Decent lighting, fantastic sound, a really nice job.
    I play Skyrim when it snows, and saw the strangest thing. A millstone arrangement, that rolls in a circular ditch, that is lined with stones. Really long arm on it, and the npc, pushes the arm in a circle.
    Just wait. I think the thing can be made to accomodate a donkey (horses would get bored). So a longer moment arm. Never mind, ignore me, just a rambling rant

  • @greevar
    @greevar Рік тому +2

    You could modify the hammer so that you can attach barbell weights to the shaft. That way, the force can be adjusted as needed. Also, a treadle would probably be advisable to allow the user to control the speed of the cam. I haven't read other comments, so someone may have already said this.

  • @sharkins8696
    @sharkins8696 Рік тому +1

    Jack of all trades master of none, because all of these are really hard to master. keep at it and write us all a book XD " Normal guys guide to everything " This channel just pours out creativity and proof a normal guy can do anything if you just practice and look things up!

  • @madammazon2942
    @madammazon2942 Рік тому

    This looks wonderful! One you have an automatic method that should really help your project progress! Also Lauren, those nails look so pretty this episode😍

  • @CharlesGann1
    @CharlesGann1 Рік тому +1

    Really appreciate your efforts. They should encourage anyone. Who has never done anything. Axe anshhip waas 8 year old boy/girl scout level. Sawing a log then chopping the pinch area instead of rotating the log was effective but skilless.
    To have gonethrough forward proves anyone with an idea and tenacity can make something!
    No critism just surprised that someone trying to build a trip hammer would have such limited basic skills.
    Great project

  • @revolcane
    @revolcane 7 місяців тому

    I have seen a few UA-cam vids of working Da Vinci Cam power hammers and what one guy did to increase the weight of the hammer is to add a spring near the head of the hammer.

  • @sweetkity
    @sweetkity Рік тому

    Wanting to pet the Floof is strong. Floof must always be loved. Love The Floof!

  • @DobleWhiteAndStabley
    @DobleWhiteAndStabley Рік тому

    Ah man. I remember making these as a kid. Bringing back so many memories. Use a 'pulling' spring attached about 4 or more inches under the hammer head, and on the frame in between the anvil and the cam. It will add pull into the hammer increasing strike force.

  • @Solais1019
    @Solais1019 Рік тому +1

    If you can find a way to put a concave wheel on the lower edge of the hammer handle so that it rolls on the cam, it would likely help with the friction that's working against the spinning because you've got the entire cam rubbing against the hammer. The wider cam does help keep the hammer from falling off, but you could probably also have put guide posts on either side of the assembly as well

  • @xboxcrusher
    @xboxcrusher Рік тому +1

    For the hammer sliding off the cam, just insert some guide rails alongside the cam to ensure the hammer stays in place. The guides would also help ensure the hammer is hitting right where you want it too. Further, by using rails you wouldn't have to widen the cam, thus lowering its weight and making it easier to turn. That would also help keep your handle from bending so easily due to the torque of turning a cam that big.
    Also, you need to put a stop bar level with the cam or at least add some leather padding on the hammer handle. Or simply make it so there is space between the handle and cam at the point the hammer comes down. Otherwise the repetition of the hammer handle striking the cam will make the whole mechanism more and more wobbly as time goes by. Eventually even cracking the wood.

  • @UnrelatedAntonym
    @UnrelatedAntonym Рік тому +1

    Niiice, cool to see a DaVinci build. I look forward to your next iteration of it. Heavier hammer falling a greater distance, also add a leaf spring or something springy to pull or push the hammer down, and hook up to a waterwheel for power.
    Also, would be nice if you get/make tools appropriate to the time period of DaVinci. Buy what you can, or close enough to the appropriate tools, or buy materials to make the tools.

  • @handyhippie6548
    @handyhippie6548 Рік тому +1

    a metal plate under the step of the anvil will help. you are slowly driving the anvil into it's stand, lowering the height of the striking face. because of that, the handle is hitting the start of the cam as the striking face is lowered, reducing the force of the blow. i made one of these all out of steel, and they do work quite well. mine is powered by an electric motor i got from a dryer rather than a crank, but the concept is the same. you could use a split of springy ash to help drive the hammer handle as it falls to get more force from the same hammer weight. i use a couple of trampoline springs on the hammer arm in my design. i created a smooth cam spiral by tying a string to a sharpie and winding it around a tuna can clamped in the center of the cam plate. as the string goes around the can, it gets shorter creating a smooth spiral with no measuring.

  • @LivingManuscript
    @LivingManuscript Рік тому

    Love this :) Power hammers not dissimilar to this were used extensively in the armor-making industry of late medieval europe

  • @astridvallati4762
    @astridvallati4762 Рік тому +1

    Back in 1956 (7y.o.) I visited some Cousins in Northern Italy who had a small Blacksmithing shop in a backstreet of the small Town I lived in for 9 months after my grandad passed.
    There were two wooden beam trip hammers, driven by a water wheel in an irrigation canal...not much head of water, but sufficient to drive both hammers at once...a lot heavier than the video examples, but LdaV design exactly...given the workshop was probably at least 100-150 years old at the time, it was a simple solution to a mechanical Problem.
    Specialised builders and carpenters often built waterwheels in Wood and Iron across Northern Italy, as snow fed streams supplied sufficient power for Milling grain, sawing lumber, blacksmithing etc. Well into the modern steam power era.
    Doc AV Australia

  • @rodrigoff7456
    @rodrigoff7456 Рік тому

    Your couple's partnership is inspiring!

  • @CrazyMagicHomelesGuy
    @CrazyMagicHomelesGuy Рік тому +2

    Id reccomend you add a spring that would pull the hammer down. It would add force

  • @larryniidji
    @larryniidji Рік тому

    You could add a pull down spring below or push down spring above the hammer handle as something to add velocity to the strike. This in turn could be made to lend adjustment as well.

  • @Wastelandman7000
    @Wastelandman7000 11 місяців тому +1

    For riving pieces off the logs you really need a froe. It looks like a Japanese sickle reversed. Its designed for being whacked with heavy mallets. (its also how they used to make shingles)

  • @jonathanballoch5424
    @jonathanballoch5424 Рік тому

    I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO BUILD THIS!!! so cool

  • @joeis18
    @joeis18 Рік тому

    I enjoy when both of you are in the video. I think she has something that you're missing and it's just lovely to see you together.

  • @johnnyrebel5458
    @johnnyrebel5458 Рік тому

    That's was fun to watch, THANKS.

  • @dbseamz
    @dbseamz Рік тому

    I was curious about the 2x4s until I remembered the "unlocking" rule from the start of the series. That board may have taken a long time to make, but having made it looks to have made this project, and other big ones in the future, much easier to make.