Why the S58 Engine is SO GOOD (Engineering Deep Dive)
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- Опубліковано 23 лип 2024
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We need this man on the S58 platform NOWWWWW
Trying 😭
Buy him one
@@kern417 Sell them two busted ass B58's and go get yourself a G87 M2 🤣J/K
Its worth noting there are slight differences in the s58 found in F97/F98 to the G80/G82. The crankshaft used in the G8x is different - lighter and optimized for the higher torque & rotational speed. The right engine mount is designed to be more rigid than the left engine mount for the torque increase which should reduce force on the drive system. Pre-production 11/2020 F9X S58s have different cooling. The pre-production F9x S58s are missing an external radiator the G8X have. Also BMW decided to include stone chip protection guards on the coolant radiators.
Yeah technically this was made before the G8x was even out, so tried to weed through some of those specific details. Like the intake integration with the engine cover
Who owns a pre production vehicle.
@@isaiah6838 Any X3m or X4m with a build date before 11/2020. All G8x will have the updates.
Hey man, i've seen your videos for quite a while now. Just wanted to say I appreciate how much dedication you've put into content like this. These videos and your deep-diving is invaluable for those of us that would want to better understand these engines and repair these vehicles. You're easily one of the most important channels to the BMW community.
I second this! And im not even a bmw fan or owner :D. I do appreciate all the information and explanations in these videos
I have a G87, loved hearing about this engine in detail and why it such an amazing platform. Excellent video👌🏾
Great video, hadn't come across your channel before but am impressed with your knowledge and clear passion for the engineering.
One of the better informative videos out there 🎉
best technical BMW channel on YT this man bringing that advanced knowledge to the community! 😤
Nice work and incredible detail
Why S58 is better? Bigger bore and Less stroke. This engine is less under-squared meaning less stress on cylinder walls. It’s also an advantage for thermal properties. It can also rev higher. Valves are bigger as well. It’s a great combo for racing!
S55 enine still better engine overall
Can’t believe I’m just now seeing this channel. Awesome video man.
Time will tell how the rod bearing will hold up but so far it’s freakin sick! Thanks for the informative video.
Break down the s55 next
Then the S63
Thanks for this fire videoooo
My S58 INJECTORS upgrade netted me a substantial gain. Able to run E55 @33 psi on a DAW in my M340, making account 660whp
Shout out to the beat-boxing at the end.
hahaha I was going to say the same.
first 3 seconds should be a wallpaper or a shirt haha or maybe a sticker
2:34 - it's only the sand cores for the head casting that are 3D printed.
I loved the video, only thing I’m unsure about is, the rod bearings do actually have coating on the top bearings for S58 and not the bottom ones.
Yes! This is gonna be good
great insight! would love to see a deep dive on why the S63TU is good
Beatboxing was sick 👍
Hello Kern, I just came across your channel and I am very grateful what you’re sharing with us. Thank you!
I recently bought a 2024 BMW M440i Xdrive coupe and running 94 octanes pump gas on JB4 map 3.
I also installed a VRSF 200 cell catted down pipe.
Do you think I will be okay to keep the stock fuel pump as well as injectors if I upgrade to a Vargas GC mid turbo?
Also, if the gas consumption would suffer with normal driving habits after the upgrade?
What do you think about my approach?
Warm regards.
Alfred.
July 9, 2024
I'd love a breakdown of an N63TU2. And compare it to an N63 OG to see how its different.
Content! 🫶🏽💯💯💯🏎️💨💨💨💨
Please make a vid on the new Vargas x drive controller 🙏🏼 is it better than xhp?
Midwest love. 🍻
No problems here with my s58. Just lots of giggling.
No plastic oil pump impeller right? How is the blowby and valve coking (common with boosted DI engines)?
Love your work!
Since a clean used F80 is 10k cheaper then a G80. Which one do you prefer?
Can you please make a comparison video?
Keep up the great work !
ZF transmission >DCT all day
I have been driving the F8X for almost 6 years. I was the biggest F82 fanboy. Just switched to the G82 Comp RWD, and I have yet to look back. These cars are simply a different level!
I’m considering getting the 2025 M2 Xdrive with this motor.
@@weduhpeople8504 they made that official?
Kevin, thanks as always. Are the S58 injectors plug and play in a Supra/Gen 2 or do the seals need to be replaced? I'm looking to do this and have heard both...TIA
@@mikew4796 it's plug N play besides needing a tune
@thefastforte2854 thanks! I just saw some new posts on Facebook where the same debate continues.
Hey so I have a question, I’m afraid that I might hurt my engine. Im eventually going to go down pipe tune, but right now I’m stock and I needed a oil change. So I used 5w-30 for thicker oil instead of the recommended 5w-20. I’m afraid it will hurt my engine since I’m stock as of now? Please give me some answers cause I’m worried.👍
I don’t think it will have any affects on it but I just want to make sure nothing will happen since I’m not modded yet. I only got 5w-30 oil mainly because I’m going full bolt on soon
Yes!!
the cylinder head is not 3d printed. the inlet for the casting is 3d printed.
Hi sorry to ask this but its a oil Q I HAVE A 2023 M3 COMP XDRIVE BROOKLYN GREY STOCK AND STAYING STOCK FOR NOW
IN THE UK . THE OIL REC over hear IS 0W30 THE Q IS IS THIS JUST FOR THE OPF FILTER COZ I WANT TO LOOK AFTER MY ENGINE CAN ANY ONE GIVE ME SOME ADVICE PLEASE.
PROFILE PHOTO OF A45S PLUS OIL REC IS 0W20 416HP
I see him getting a gen 2 b58
Are we gonna see kern in an s58 soon?
X3m?
S58 is big money
Idk imo the s58 connecting rod look stronger at least on the bottom side where the bearing goes you can tell it’s beefier and the the way the profile is it’s designed better but I agree it’s thinner
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B58 B58 B58
Hahaha lol at the intro "the b58 is you" 😂😂😂 what would be nice is a comparison of bang for buck performance. A 30k b58 gen 1 with 30k in mods vs a s58 with a tune for example. All tough a M car will be sharper from factory. Many of yall only seem to drive in a straight line for a couple of meters. So that doesn't matter as well. 😂😂😂 Keep it up Kevin. 💪🏻
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Lol why would anyone be worried about an engine that’s not even in the 7s…
I think you meant S58 Is you Gen2B58 is the one your girlfriend tells you not to worry about 😂😂
This is such a brain dead comment lol. You think if someone stuck an s58 in a tiny Supra they couldn't go 7s??? Ever heard of power to weight? Physics is a thing🤡
you sound worried,relax bro s58 will be in 7s soon also and haul 1000lbs extra with 4 doors and xdrive
@@durin23 Gen2B58 already in the mid 7s, go eat a cake and drink some tea lil bro 😂😂😂 and don’t forget while you do that the quickest and fastest BMW in the world is the M240😂😂
@@TurboThreeOh why you so worried bud?
@@TurboThreeOhcongrats…but you know that’s because it’s in a smaller lighter car with an engine that’s easier to obtain. If you take a stock s58 and run it in a m240 and put it against a stock b58 give them both fbo who wins? That trend would continue into building the engines.
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0:57 What if you're the b48/6 :(
Jokes aside thanks for the content
M3 S55 Engine still the Best engine
Watch that video, it shows a very good comparison of S55/S58/B58 rods and bearings and S58 parts are not getting a good rating there. You can switch on English automatic translation: ua-cam.com/video/WA-k3p8zM2M/v-deo.html
Translation is not good I see, basically S58 bearings are already slighly worn after 10000 km while B58 is even with 100000 or 200000 km still like new. So they say S58 bearings will become a problem like S65, so after like 60000 to 80000 km you have to change them. Pistons from B58 are ok but not the best. S58 pistons are better. B58 rods are the best, S58 is not as strong.
Tom wringly be like 😂😂😂😂😂
Worst part of s58 ownership is not having your guidance anymore 😢
Lmao right on the nail
DAZA on top
U mean the engine u have to build at 700hp😭 while an s58 makes 700whp w just a downpipe and tune
First
I guess the S55 sucks then...whomp whomp
The S55 engine still the best hands down
I'm so fed up with these so called incredible bmw engines
Who cares about all of these accolades, when they start burning oil at 50-70k miles and start having major issues under 100k miles.?..
Yes, S58 is great while you're leasing your X6M.. Big deal
X6m doesn’t have an s58 first of all second of all the b58 and s58 haven’t had any oil burning issues so far and a lot have made it past 100k miles no issues
@@borisspaseski8934 mine has a B58 in it and at 70k burns about 3 qts per OCI. Many friends of mine are having the same results
b58 still better
i agree,if you broke
@@durin23b58 is more reliable
Insane cope
Go tell BMW to put a B58 into a M car instead of S58, lol🤣
Why is the B58 better? What makes you say that?
It is a bmw, in other words, crap.
It’s not 2008 anymore
My k20 turbo civic is faster and stronger
That's embarrassing
Still driving a civic😭
Bearings?
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