@@CTRLALTNUKE The civil service is supposed to be politically neutral, it is part of the civil service code of conduct, so there should be no picking and choosing.
@@davidanderson7138How about you get your facts right. Most staff work in the office the majority of the time with scope to hybrid work if they so choose to & not all do. Those working from home or from home more have genuine reasons, ie disabilities or long term health conditions which prevent them from managing to attend the office like other staff. This is properly assessed before being agreed - so what you’ve basically just said is sack these people who can work but need extra support in doing so.
@@nesto9250good point. That’s exactly what I was thinking. I wonder how many dogs are employed in any government these days, for purposes of PTS problems everyone seems to have these days.
I was a civil servant. There was a legendary newspaper Q&A with one of our managers who was a DEI appointment. They literally answered every question wrong. If they had chosen a random person off the streets they would have got more correct answers. It guarantees incompetence.
They will not be sacked. They will be retained as assistants in HR departments doing the same job but with different titles. We need to ‘Drain the Swamp’.
This is what our MPs can do.humaz resigned after less than a year as leader of the SNP he is 39.he is now retired with a PENSION OF 52.000. A year and it starts now he is 39 .working people made to work till 66 So this man will get more in pensions deforestation any working person of 66 will ever get
Really? If it's that easy then perhaps stop come crying to us over very little petty thing. Those that always say "we do nothing" have no idea what we do, we're no longer the tea and tampax brigade or just payroll. HR is a strategic position that benefits employees if we weren't there things would be so much worse for employees but they have zero idea about it,a dn we have to out up with snotty attitudes like yours.
@@sammic7492 HR enforce all the stupid rules and treat people like pandas. I personally had to go through an EDI investigation that took a month before being dropped with no penalty. It failed because even the person I had supposedly "insulted" did not want any of it to be happening and actually apologised to me - HR didn't. I remember being asked "you understand why we have to investigate though?" The answer was no.
@@barryevans791 We "enforce" the LAW , why would HR apologise for doing their job and investigating? Do you apologise for doing your job? From the way you present yourself I can imagine your colleagues could have felt intimidated by you, HR have a legal obligation to investigate any complaint, I'm sure if you had a complaint you'd expect it to be investigated, we don't pick and choose what is investigated and it's about protecting ALL parties. Perhaps your abrasiveness could be addressed.
@@jabbadabbajew6035 Funny that, I managed to do well enough to retire at 50 and have a nice little nest egg doing HR, so I can do something. How about YOU?
As a green haired, Bi Tranz, pan gay, She they, Norwegian Forest Cat. Im absolutely disgusted by this news. Having a real job is going to suck. Especially as I identify as non temporal
Why do I get this sneaky feeling that these people will either get-- a) Changed titles and job descriptions then hidden away in some back office b) become 'independent' dei consultants on guaranteed retainer or c) given a 'golden parachute' plus pension for life equivalent to 90% of their current salary,index linked of course,I'll bet they can't wait,again Joe Public will be picking up the tab for these grifters and the roads will STILL be full of potholes !
To answer your question, the majority of staff work in the office most of the time. Only those who have long term disabilities/health conditions who struggle to attend the office on a regular basis work from home. This is all properly assessed by the business before being agreed and to help those people stay in work, rather than them not being able to work and having to claim benefit.
@@peacefulpath222 Sorry but that's utter bullcrap. Our local authority was recently forced by FOI to release council officer attendance rates. Long story short, it's not good.
And what will happen is the Guardian will report that black people have been disproportionately let go because most of these roles are filled by them, as if diversity means just more black people.
all the companies and organisations that spent millions if not billions on DEI, allowing the gravy train of nothing to absorb money that could and should have been used elsewhere. Every single CEO who allowed this trash should resign and not get their severance/redundancy or golden handshake. Those people ARE the problem, not the solution.
Be under no illusion, civil servants find these roles risible and infuriating as well. There is a very small,niche, group that push for these roles, the rest just role their eyes.
I worked in the civil service for 3 years in the late 70s (in Birmingham). My manager was a woman from Liverpool who was the most militant person I've ever come across. The majority of the staff were always looking for a cause or reason to strike.
The Civil Service and local government needs to be reduced to the size it was in the 1950's. This is not just getting rid of the non jobs but also reducing the expansion of departments that has occurred. Not all the non jobs are woke ones. We also need to get rid of all the new jobs for politicians, reduce the number of parliamentary seats and reduce the size & makeup of the upper house. Savings should be spent on Health and the armed forces.
About time. They should never have been jobs in the first place. Wasted a lot of money we are not going to get back. Is that why councils have gone bust.
Boris Johnson declaring austerity over is a lot of the reason why this has happened. Devolution, especially in London means public services are no more than middle-class centres of social engineering and cronyism.
One only needs to take an interest in the Post Office Horizon inquiry to see how many civil servants working for the Post Office aren't fit for purpose in their job.They have cushy jobs for life with little interest in the customers and end users of the public services they are there to supposedly run efficiently and effectively.I've maintained for a long time many public services are run for the benefit of those working in them rather than for the general public.
Weve got council who are in debt but hiring people for ludicrous positions on salaries over 100k. Its a profitable business this DEI . I think we are all sick and tired of being lecturered daily. Its time we went with meritocracy and nothing else. 8ts going to take a long tome for public and pr9vste areas to detangke themselves from the wole agenda
One of my most loved series was yes prime minister.saw it again 15 years ago with my children so the civil service in the UK has a long history of people that creat jobs so DEI was viewed as such but actually it much more racist and Western culture hating
Diversity officer is such a BS JOB. In my work I’m one of a few nominated diversity reps and I do it as a side thing to my normal job. The point is I know the policy and if anybody has an issue they come to myself or 2 others in the workplace. We have approx 400 employees and I can say in the past 13 years that I’ve had 1 D&I job come to me which was basically a guy had said “well done guys” on a WhatsApp message to his team after they did well and a female member of the group chat felt excluded. Pointless job
How many years in government? And only now there are plans to cut back Civil Service diversity roles. Plans. Rishi is very good at plans. So I hear. From him.
I worked with an african women at the local council in a mental health service. The team manager had to re write her reports as they were so bad they could not be handed over (sometimes in court). This person was there for decades and was never challenged because of fear of the race card.
The pity about this proposal is that it won't be implemented because the Tories will be booted out within a few months. So this conversation is just chewing the cud.
Good god whot a disgusting waist of money our goverments should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves Waisting the taxpayers money like this it's disgusting whots going on in this country we nead to get rid of these corupt goverments vote reform
They all say what people want to hear at election time . There should be laws put in place that any policy they say their going to do they should at least try to do, otherwise we will continue to get the same bs every time
13 years of Tory Misrule and NOW, Tories will abolish Diversity consultants for 6 months until New Labour imposes even more Diversity consultants. IIIFFF Tories have not already hired the maximum possible number.
This isn't just a problem with HR. We have created whole industries now in both HR and HSE, and neither role actually produces anything. Before anybody jumps in and says "oh, so you think safety is not important"....If you look closely at just how much HSE interferes with everyday life, you would be shocked. eg. just look at the litter in our streets and highways, and ask why that's not picked up (of course should not be dropped). somebody has risk assessed picking up litter and decided it's too dangerous to pick that rubbish up. I am not joking....the highways England litter policy even states that it's nobody's responsibility to pick up litter from central reservations. Other countries manage it, but not the UK
They all need to go…..but they will just ‘retire’ and demand high pensions for life!! They have actually ‘produced nothing’ and ‘given nothing’ of their time - considering they are mostly working from home. In my opinion they should all be sacked and ‘get nothing’. Just GET RID OF THEM…. before Labour take over.
I totally agree with the last guy. We despise Labour and their 'legacy' but the Tories have done nothing over the past 14 years to overturn this rubbish. Instead we got Cameron, a Labour lite wetwipe and his 'hug a hoody' politics. They deserve to lose the upcoming GE.
Great news. All inclusion and diversity roles must go. Period
Good, as a civil servant for over 30 years, im sick to death of this woke rubbish
Me too. And it was left to the people who actually knew how to do the job to repair the damage these appointments caused.
I'm with you in getting rid of Jesus crosses and Ukrainian flags.
Good to hear.
@@CTRLALTNUKE The civil service is supposed to be politically neutral, it is part of the civil service code of conduct, so there should be no picking and choosing.
@@CTRLALTNUKE jesus crosses ha ha ha , yes they everywhere , sorry it traumatizes you my weak feeble friend
It’s about time people started to stand up to this nonsense.
but they won’t, it’s a desperate attempt to win back some votes !
How about sacking those in the Civil Serpents that allowed it in the first place, all the Mandarin's at the top for example.
how about sacking all those still working from home too!
Civil serpents😂 love that
@@davidanderson7138How about you get your facts right. Most staff work in the office the majority of the time with scope to hybrid work if they so choose to & not all do. Those working from home or from home more have genuine reasons, ie disabilities or long term health conditions which prevent them from managing to attend the office like other staff. This is properly assessed before being agreed - so what you’ve basically just said is sack these people who can work but need extra support in doing so.
@@peacefulpath222 how did these people manage before working from home was introduced.
@@nesto9250good point. That’s exactly what I was thinking. I wonder how many dogs are employed in any government these days, for purposes of PTS problems everyone seems to have these days.
Every dei office should be immediately closed
I was a civil servant. There was a legendary newspaper Q&A with one of our managers who was a DEI appointment. They literally answered every question wrong. If they had chosen a random person off the streets they would have got more correct answers. It guarantees incompetence.
These are non jobs and complete waste of tax payers money
Argentina removed all of them out, now they are flying!!!!!
They will not be sacked. They will be retained as assistants in HR departments doing the same job but with different titles. We need to ‘Drain the Swamp’.
They will be asked to ‘retire’ and then demand high pensions for life!
@@dodgynumber7533 Even that is better than the misery and concern these people cause.
DEI - Didn't Earn It.
Brilliant 😊 funny and true 😂
You win the internet Sir! LMAO
Tony Blair the gift that keep destroying
This is what our MPs can do.humaz resigned after less than a year as leader of the SNP he is 39.he is now retired with a PENSION OF 52.000. A year and it starts now he is 39 .working people made to work till 66
So this man will get more in pensions deforestation any working person of 66 will ever get
Sadly Labour will reverse it all
HR departments are a massive waste of space, its a job that seems to have been invented for people who can't do anything else
Correction……… people who can’t do anything. 🤣
Really? If it's that easy then perhaps stop come crying to us over very little petty thing. Those that always say "we do nothing" have no idea what we do, we're no longer the tea and tampax brigade or just payroll. HR is a strategic position that benefits employees if we weren't there things would be so much worse for employees but they have zero idea about it,a dn we have to out up with snotty attitudes like yours.
@@sammic7492 HR enforce all the stupid rules and treat people like pandas. I personally had to go through an EDI investigation that took a month before being dropped with no penalty. It failed because even the person I had supposedly "insulted" did not want any of it to be happening and actually apologised to me - HR didn't. I remember being asked "you understand why we have to investigate though?" The answer was no.
@@barryevans791 We "enforce" the LAW , why would HR apologise for doing their job and investigating? Do you apologise for doing your job? From the way you present yourself I can imagine your colleagues could have felt intimidated by you, HR have a legal obligation to investigate any complaint, I'm sure if you had a complaint you'd expect it to be investigated, we don't pick and choose what is investigated and it's about protecting ALL parties. Perhaps your abrasiveness could be addressed.
@@jabbadabbajew6035 Funny that, I managed to do well enough to retire at 50 and have a nice little nest egg doing HR, so I can do something. How about YOU?
DEI should be illegal
Wigan Council are just doing the same thing right now. Diversity was one of the words among other stupid things.
As a green haired, Bi Tranz, pan gay, She they, Norwegian Forest Cat. Im absolutely disgusted by this news. Having a real job is going to suck. Especially as I identify as non temporal
Yeah, must be devastating news for those who identify as unwilling to work an actual job - my heart bleeds for them 💔
😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
They had 15 years to sort this rubbish out - but they encouraged it.
You say "they" like you have an unfounded delusion that Labour have any intention of fixing it as opposed to making it worse.
@@Truthnowhere2020 What you blathering about? I didnt even mention those labour party ubermongs.
They're more interested in Ukraine than the UK.
She needs to hurry up before labour get in .
About time too.
Next step the education system followed by The NHS and big business
They should never have come about in the first place. The spend is ridiculously high in government, councils and the NHS.
Why do I get this sneaky feeling that these people will either get-- a) Changed titles and job descriptions then hidden away in some back office b) become 'independent' dei consultants on guaranteed retainer or c) given a 'golden parachute' plus pension for life equivalent to 90% of their current salary,index linked of course,I'll bet they can't wait,again Joe Public will be picking up the tab for these grifters and the roads will STILL be full of potholes !
Absolutely ridiculous waste of money. It really needs sorting ?
How many Civil Servants still work from home, since the lockdown? Get back to work in the office.
To answer your question, the majority of staff work in the office most of the time. Only those who have long term disabilities/health conditions who struggle to attend the office on a regular basis work from home. This is all properly assessed by the business before being agreed and to help those people stay in work, rather than them not being able to work and having to claim benefit.
@@peacefulpath222 Sorry but that's utter bullcrap. Our local authority was recently forced by FOI to release council officer attendance rates. Long story short, it's not good.
DEI is the modern-day quango.
A feckin waste of taxpayers money!!!
And what will happen is the Guardian will report that black people have been disproportionately let go because most of these roles are filled by them, as if diversity means just more black people.
all the companies and organisations that spent millions if not billions on DEI, allowing the gravy train of nothing to absorb money that could and should have been used elsewhere. Every single CEO who allowed this trash should resign and not get their severance/redundancy or golden handshake. Those people ARE the problem, not the solution.
Excellent!
Be under no illusion, civil servants find these roles risible and infuriating as well. There is a very small,niche, group that push for these roles, the rest just role their eyes.
Should never have been a thing 🤨
Not late, will be reinstated under a Labour government
Amazing how they can do what the majority of the public want a few months from an election but have just sat back and let all this happen for years!!
It's about time
I worked in the civil service for 3 years in the late 70s (in Birmingham). My manager was a woman from Liverpool who was the most militant person I've ever come across. The majority of the staff were always looking for a cause or reason to strike.
Haven't the Lords and Commons not advertised for Diversity Managers salaries £67 &£68 Thousand per year so how are they getting rid of diversity ?
Minister for common sense sounds better than bulldozer.
This lady has so much common sense, I enjoyed watching and listening to her.
The Civil Service and local government needs to be reduced to the size it was in the 1950's. This is not just getting rid of the non jobs but also reducing the expansion of departments that has occurred. Not all the non jobs are woke ones.
We also need to get rid of all the new jobs for politicians, reduce the number of parliamentary seats and reduce the size & makeup of the upper house.
Savings should be spent on Health and the armed forces.
About time. They should never have been jobs in the first place. Wasted a lot of money we are not going to get back. Is that why councils have gone bust.
the bottom line is they are POUNCES
Total waste of money. Obscene amounts of money on these jobs that are also grossly overpaid.
It all needs to go. It is not necessary.
The media are so naive. Judge them on their actions not their soundbites.
They will fight her tooth and nail
Getting the 'right' person for the job is a HR function .... without someone looking over their shoulder screaming 'racist!'
working from home is not a job its a luxury
And yet they want to Rob people of their PIP , DISGUSTING 😢
Boris Johnson declaring austerity over is a lot of the reason why this has happened. Devolution, especially in London means public services are no more than middle-class centres of social engineering and cronyism.
One only needs to take an interest in the Post Office Horizon inquiry to see how many civil servants working for the Post Office aren't fit for purpose in their job.They have cushy jobs for life with little interest in the customers and end users of the public services they are there to supposedly run efficiently and effectively.I've maintained for a long time many public services are run for the benefit of those working in them rather than for the general public.
Weve got council who are in debt but hiring people for ludicrous positions on salaries over 100k. Its a profitable business this DEI . I think we are all sick and tired of being lecturered daily. Its time we went with meritocracy and nothing else. 8ts going to take a long tome for public and pr9vste areas to detangke themselves from the wole agenda
Common sense prevails 🙏
Don’t you remember that Javid was cancelling the woke job adverts in the nhs and he didn’t.
I believe that HR and health and safety are the main reasons UK productivity is so low.
When some leave Uni with a degree in African/alphabet/micro aggression/ism/obia/otry studies they need to create a job for the DEI numbers game.
Yes rid the workforce of these none jobs and the grifters with their none degrees that work in them.
One of my most loved series was yes prime minister.saw it again 15 years ago with my children so the civil service in the UK has a long history of people that creat jobs so DEI was viewed as such but actually it much more racist and Western culture hating
Are the DEIs in the NHS pushing for more men in midwifery, as I have not seen any campaigns?
I’m sure the civil servants won’t allow this to happen as they are in charge and make the rules.
Diversity officer is such a BS JOB. In my work I’m one of a few nominated diversity reps and I do it as a side thing to my normal job. The point is I know the policy and if anybody has an issue they come to myself or 2 others in the workplace. We have approx 400 employees and I can say in the past 13 years that I’ve had 1 D&I job come to me which was basically a guy had said “well done guys” on a WhatsApp message to his team after they did well and a female member of the group chat felt excluded. Pointless job
None of these people will lose their jobs they will be re-titled as Human Resources officers.
That's the depressing thing about it. And they will be just as useless.
WEF, BlackRock and Vanguard.
Our politicians obey orders from their Masters. Tory, Labour. It makes no difference.
A person should be hired on merit, skill.
How many years in government? And only now there are plans to cut back Civil Service diversity roles. Plans. Rishi is very good at plans. So I hear. From him.
They engage in divisive and disabling concepts
Hardly scratches the surface of over 300 million per day wasted of tory rule.
so now those clever Civil Service People have lots of time to redeploy these people...
JHB is a national treasure. What a queen. Sharp British tongue!
Waste of wages! Sick of paying for this nonsense. Paying people to decide that something or other is racist, bigoted or trans phobic. Ridiculous!!
I worked with an african women at the local council in a mental health service. The team manager had to re write her reports as they were so bad they could not be handed over (sometimes in court). This person was there for decades and was never challenged because of fear of the race card.
Time to remove the ability for a small group to be able to steal the fruits of our labour
IF... a .big IF....and when it happens....just how much will the public purse be screwed for in redundancy payments...?
I'm surprised one didn't rename Whitehall
All of that wasted money could have been allocated to the NHS rather than BS like woke stuff.
A labour government will keep DEI and let it increase.
This is economist Milton Friedman’s 4th way to spend money. They will never give that up, ever!
SO HOW MANY WILL GO ????????????? NONE
Totally agree with this… but… my word can she TALK !! 😮
They do duck all there should be a ministry for self sufficiently so we’re are not held to ransom by other countries.
Julia for prime minister.
Wow, great news. It may bring down prices of things, my mortgage, car loan and insurance, weekly shopping costs etc. Great job Tories.
This is something positive. I am thankful this is happening. If this is the start of more policies like this, I would be most grateful.
The pity about this proposal is that it won't be implemented because the Tories will be booted out within a few months. So this conversation is just chewing the cud.
Good god whot a disgusting waist of money our goverments should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves
Waisting the taxpayers money like this it's disgusting whots going on in this country we nead to get rid of these corupt goverments vote reform
Don't worry, labour will reinstate these roles and indeed increase the number of them. Afterall DEI is THE most important issue this country faces!!
Esther Mcvey will be out of a job soon.
As a Tory voter I am sorry to have to say that despite seeming so promising, in hindsight, BJ’s government was an absolute disaster.
They all say what people want to hear at election time . There should be laws put in place that any policy they say their going to do they should at least try to do, otherwise we will continue to get the same bs every time
It is a way of giving jobs to people who would otherwise be unemployable!
>Next government will
ZERO SEATS! ZERO SEATS! ZERO SEATS!
Discrimination Exclusion Indoctrination
13 years of Tory Misrule and NOW, Tories will abolish Diversity consultants for 6 months until New Labour imposes even more Diversity consultants.
IIIFFF Tories have not already hired the maximum possible number.
This isn't just a problem with HR. We have created whole industries now in both HR and HSE, and neither role actually produces anything. Before anybody jumps in and says "oh, so you think safety is not important"....If you look closely at just how much HSE interferes with everyday life, you would be shocked. eg. just look at the litter in our streets and highways, and ask why that's not picked up (of course should not be dropped). somebody has risk assessed picking up litter and decided it's too dangerous to pick that rubbish up. I am not joking....the highways England litter policy even states that it's nobody's responsibility to pick up litter from central reservations. Other countries manage it, but not the UK
No wonder
They all need to go…..but they will just ‘retire’ and demand high pensions for life!!
They have actually ‘produced nothing’ and ‘given nothing’ of their time - considering they are mostly working from home.
In my opinion they should all be sacked and ‘get nothing’.
Just GET RID OF THEM…. before Labour take over.
Shocking😮
here here Julia
Good,👏👏
Minister for 'How to waste more Taxpayers Money'
Great IF it happens but I bet by next year there will be more!
I totally agree with the last guy. We despise Labour and their 'legacy' but the Tories have done nothing over the past 14 years to overturn this rubbish. Instead we got Cameron, a Labour lite wetwipe and his 'hug a hoody' politics. They deserve to lose the upcoming GE.
Diversity = Division
Adter 14 years its to little to late
Ministry of " what ?" ...Monty Python will never be Dead !