Grain Bin Home Build... Episode 9 "Interior framing Part 1"
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- Опубліковано 20 чер 2021
- In this 9th episode, we are starting the interior wall framing for the Grain Bin. Framing curved exterior walls, and setting the LVL beam for our loft floor. Grain Bin Home, Grain Bin Remodel, Grain Bin Conversion, Grain Silo Home, Grain Bin House, Tiny House, Silo House.
I would recommend getting an old run down bin slightly smaller for the inside and spray foam between the old bin and new. Use post-beam construction for a loft and interior. So much faster and easier and less expensive if you don't mind the corrugated metal look on the inside. The bonus is that you can see the geometric shape of the bin roof on the inside but still have great R-value. It only takes about 2 days for 4 capaple guys to build a bin that size so only 4 or 5 days total to complete the exterior walls and insulation. Its only about 1 day to excavate, form and pour a bin pad that size too. The biggest drawback is the loss of useable SF because of it's circular footprint. No need to finish the patina on the inside bin outside of some wire brushing and a clear coat IMO. Brighten up the space with some color on the interior framed and gypsum covered walls (Disclaimer: I've built more bins than I can count and several houses but never a grain bin house)
Thanks a lot, this is the coolest thing I’ve seen in awhile. I’m going to be staying up late now, to watch all your videos.
Hope you enjoy!
Hey love the smile and grins you give!
Thank you
I’m in the process of planning to convert my 13 ft silo/grain bin into a bunkie/studio/she shed for myself. My bin is half your size, about 130 sq ft on each level. The bin was used to store wood for our furnace for almost 30 years and since converting to a ground source heat pump furnace it has sat without a purpose until now. I plan to put a second floor but because the bin is only 12 ft high the first level will be 7 ft high and the second floor will 5 ft with the extra space of the roof. How high is your wall under your loft? I’m up to episode 9 and learning lots! I’ve been searching the internet and your videos are the most informative for what I need to know. My silo space is small and with the help of my McGivor friend we will convert it into a spot just for me. Going to use some solar power and ladder to loft until I can afford stairs. Pretty simple really, your silo home is inspiring.thanks for documenting!
Our Bin was 19ft tall. Firstfloor walls were 8 ft 4 1/2 inches tall. 2nd level walls were 8ft tall.
Have an old grain bin on my farm I've been wanting to covert to a tiny house, similar project as this. I'm in SC. Wondering how you plan to insulate/seal this thing up. Closed cell spray foam? What about vapor barrier between the steel and wood framing?
Closed cell spray foam is best bet for whole thing. It is little pricey. Im going to use closed cell spray foam on all trouble areas... Where walls meet floor and roof.. Around openings.. Penetrations, etc. Then I'm installing paper faced batt to all other areas to keep my costs down.
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Joe supervised it!
I've never understood what plums and limes have to do with framing except for snacks
Love what you're doing here! If I end up building when I retire in a couple years, a grain bin is on my short list, either as a whole house or as part of a more conventional building. Quick question, did you do any sort of barrier or gap between the steel and the framing/insulation to deal with condensation? I've heard that condensation on the inside of the bin walls can be a real challenge with converting these to homes, but I can never find where anybody addresses it...
Spray foam insulation is premium. It is costly for sure but would work well. I spray foamed all trouble and transitional areas like base of walls, walls to ceiling transitions, and around openings... And then fit batt insulation to all the remaining areas. Has worked well.
@@blueroomoutdoormedia5630 Good to know! So you haven't had any issues with mold, rot, or other moisture problems between the outer steel skin and the bat insulation or wood framing? I'm not talking about moisture from leaks, I'm talking about moisture from condensation...for example when it is cold outside and warm inside, you don't get water building up on the inside steel skin?
No issues to date. If its in your budget... I would suggest spray foam for all
@@blueroomoutdoormedia5630 Good info! Thanks!
What size ply are you running for your top curve plates and bottom plates 3/4 or 1/2? I am building same size grain bin 24ft at our ranch in Texas I’m from Colorado and have been hauling loads of materials I have to build this project
3/4 inch ply for curved plates. Doubled up treated ply for bottom plate. Doubled up standard ply for top plates. See episode 8 "curved wall plates" for more details
What size angle iron did you use for framing support and what did you use to attach?
This is awesome. Could you give a rough estimate on what it cost to build? If its cost effective compared to building a regular house this would be an amazing alternative,well done, cheers
Im going to come in around 75 dollars a square foot. I did add on addition which added some costs... And almost all of the labor has been free. Except concrete, drywall. So is it cheaper to build than conventional... Maybe if you already have a grain bin on foundation. If you had to pay for labor it is intensive with all the curve work and unconventional things.
@@blueroomoutdoormedia5630 Hi, yeah it looks pretty intensive as far as labour goes. Are u adding a mesanine floor as well?
@@jasongee1970 yes. You will see in later episodes, we frame the upstairs loft floor.
@@blueroomoutdoormedia5630 You have about 900 square feet of livable space in the grain bin, correct? So the total cost to finish it all up will run about $65,000-$70,000 including the attached building?
@@shannonellenberger9548 yes im just shy of 1000 sf total. Total cost of build will prob be close to 75K. That includes the addition, septic, and well.
How did you create the curve bottom and top plates with plywood.
Episode 8 explains laying out and cutting the curved plywood plates for the walls.
Im not understanding how the top sill is taking that curve, how is it bent to shape ?
See episode 8 cutting curved plates. Top and bottom plates are cut out curved.. not bent.
How did you curve the wood?
See episode 8 "curved wall plates". I go over how to mark and cut out the curved wall plates.
Awesome, thanks!
So how much does it cost to cool this thing in the summer when the sun is beating down on that steel? Who cares it's a grain bin house!! Isn't it cool?!?
No windows are west facing, except 1 window in back added bedroom. And that really helps to keep it cool inside. It actually is super efficient to keep cooled! Electric bill isn't too bad at all. Winter and electric heat is worse than summertime AC.
How did you curve the top and bottom plate? Did you cut each piece of plywood?
Yes all curved wall plates were cut out of plwood. See episode 8 "Curved wall plates"
I live in Idaho in the Tetons and have two of these, I’m concerned about the amount of insulation needed in the winter. 2x6 or 2x8 along the walls?
Not sure what your code is there. Ask local building department. Here our code is R15 for side walls.. Which fits into 2x4 walls. Im sure you all are at least R19 which would be 2x6 walls. If you spray foam, you should be able to get enough R value in a 2x4 wall.
I really like watching your videos but wish you would change the music up
Thank you for the input.
Where do you get curved headers and top and bottom plates
Have to make them on site. Curved plates were laid out and cut in episode 8 of the series. Curved headers are like mini walls with flexible plywood attached for strength.
I'm a little slow, what method did you use to determine the radius for the plywood cuts? I'm no math genius. Thanks and Cheers! New sub here.
If you watch episode 8.. I explain laying out and cutting the radius plywood plates for the walls. Hopefully that will answer your question.
@@blueroomoutdoormedia5630 Thanks! I will check that out.
What's the ft & height of this silo?
I'm looking to do one myself. I'm trying to get different ideas.
This is a 24 ft diameter 19 ft tall 10000 bushel grain bin.
@@blueroomoutdoormedia5630 thanks. I really appreciate that.
How do you bend a 2x4?
Bending a 2x4 is extremely difficult... Can be done with enough steam and wetness... But instead of that... We marked out and cut curved plywood plates for the walls. See episode 8 "Curved Wall Plates"
Turn ur music down, i cant hear what ur saying 😮