💰Save BIG on RV Diesel Fuel @ Truck Stops! (TSD Open Roads) Full Time RV!
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- Fuel like a PRO in the truck lanes and save BIG $$!!!
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One of our fears of the unknown before we started RVing was how to fuel the rig. Can we use those big truck lanes that the tractor-trailers use? Will the truckers be angry that we're using "their" lanes? Do they work like a regular pump? Can we pay at the pump? Is the price the same?
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Chad, love you guys but I’ll give you a DEF tip, or two. The rubber flap door is more common in the colder states because DEF will freeze and the little rubber flap door helps keep the heat in when the temp drops. 2nd, the OPW DEF nozzle has a “hold open” feature that most folks, even professional drivers don’t know is there. It on the very back of the nozzle at the hose end where a little lever holds the handle in the on position. 3rd, did you know that Pilot Flying J (Now know as the PILOT Co) makes its own DEF and has a whole fleet of DEF semi’s and drivers as well as wholesale customers that is branded under the Saratoga name? How do I know?? I am a fuel driver for Pilot and deliver to multiple stores in a tri-state area. Great company to work for....BTW, some Pilot stores have propane & Dump Stations for RV’s...
I'm a truck driver I have never had any issues with a rv in fact when all the lanes are full and there's a rv I get behind the rv otr drivers are the worst and take the longest rvs are the nicest and respectable people
Glad to hear! 😊
A lot smaller tanks in a pickup vs OTR truck, they will be done much quicker too.
Thanks for letting us know truck drivers are inconsiderate pricks . Not all drivers are honest like you
I'm a trucker and I'll get behind the RV in the fuel line all the time they are quicker. Just hate when they go inside for a long time and come outside with 20 bags of stuff. The only thing about campers and rv's that drive me nuts. That's parking in the truck stop or rest areas and fully setting up there slide outs takes 3 spots.
@@danielthekidd1460 2 million miles and many fuel stops, I agree and haven't met any that we're about Me, I, Mine always considerate.
Def covers are because it can freeze up in winter, and thus it helps Keep it warm, and some colder places you will see an insulation blanket on it. 2. join the rewards card, and you get from 1 to 4 cents on every gallion rewards(at Loves) 50 gals gets free shower, up to 5 days, to spend inside, depending on how many gallons you bought last month, which dont expire for 1 year. 3. Refer is for the refrigerated units, which doesnt pay highway taxes on those gallios, i have only ever seen 2 separate pumps, which put red dye in the gas, hugh fine if you try to cheat. 4. when you pull up, the truck fueling expects that you will be back out in 15 minutes, which is how long it usually takes to fuel, be sure to pull all the way up to the line in front, so he can pull up to fuel hiss refer if needed.. I am an OTR truck driver/ Trainer, this is what i teach my new student drivers.
Former 1.5 million mile otr driver. Your procedures are exactly right and will serve you well. Truck drivers are almost always in a hurry because they have been delayed for some reason beyond their control. Understanding this and proceeding as you have advised will keep the jerks quiet for the most part. Hat tip on the fuel card and thanks for an entertaining vid.
Reefer is for refrigerated trailer you don’t pay road tax on that fuel. IMO loves is hands down the best truck stop.
Great video. Another option we use is an additional gravity fed, in bed 91 gallon tank. We can travel for days without refilling, take advantage of good fuel prices when available, and travel completely through states with higher taxes/prices. We also are more likely to fill up while we are unhooked instead of at higher priced interstate stations.
I’m a trucker, 22+ years , planning to be RVing soon. Great video! Great information. Thanks for the fabulous info on the fleet fuel card, and all of the information. I’m very glad I found your channel
I realize this is an old video... “Reefer” stands for refrigeration unit on the front of a trailer on a semi. They have a separate tank under the belly of the trailer. If you click both, it will let you get your diesel, then get your def. once done you can pull forward and fill the tanks on the RV for your generator. You don’t have to reset the pump again to fill them. Hope this helps y’all. Love the videos, especially Chad’s how to videos on maintenance. 👍🏻
I'm a professional driver, and personally. I'd rather see an r.v. than most trucks fuelling. Just be respectful.. fuel and go.. or pull forward. So the next guy can fuel. Understand your out there for fun.. truckers have a job to do. So just don't be like most OTR driver's.. do what you gotta do.. and get moving.. if you wanna shop, or need more time.. pull out, and find a parking spot. Again, be respectful.
I always preferred to pull up behind an RV then a truck because they take at least half the time.
Do what? You mean no taking a 30 or taking a shower while at the fuel island? No going inside for a sodie water & a cheeseburger? Next, you'll say no washing trucks with squeegees! 😂😂😂😂😂
Great Tip and Video. I followed your instructions, gave them your name and received the card a week ago. I also set up a separate checking account just for fuel and travel needs as a safety net against fraud if my card "goes missing". It feels weird saying that I can't wait to buy fuel. The people at TSD were very kind on the phone and made the process extremely easy. My wife and I usually use the truck lanes and in our experience, I have never met anyone who thought we shouldn't be there. In fact, we blew a radiator on our 250 in NY state and I had to replace it in the truck lot. Every trucker who passed offered to help me wrench on the thing. I also have noticed that there are lots of Veterans who drive and, also in my experience, Veterans look out for each other and for everyone else. My Brothers and Sisters also usually have some great stories. Thanks for putting yourselves out there for the rest of us and for saving us money on fuel. Fair Winds and Following Seas to you both.
Good to see yet another shipmate on scene. I, too, have been following this 'Airdale' and his S.O. for a good long time. They are great people and I have learned a lot from them. Hope this "Tin Can Sailor" will meet you and them on the road this year. v/r, TS - FTCM(SW) USN(Ret) Denver, CO
Thanks for the referral and Welcome to our channel! 😊
39 years as a trucker.
A few tips!
After you have pumped and pulled forward then paid for your fuel, and done your business in the bathroom go back and park! Those truckers and others that screw around inside are the people we hate!
Remember truckers must work AGAINST the clock so get in and get out. Go park in the lot and then go in and get a shower if you pumped enough fuel, eat and shop. You bought fuel so you paid to park! Just don't hold a working man or woman up taking your time in the store! You can be shown you are number 1!
Next time at Walmart, go buy several hand towels. Brown or dark colored. Put 1 in each door so when you get back in the cab after walking on all that slippery fuel and oil, pull it out and put it on the floorboard and wipe your feet off! Then before closing the door hang it out the door and shake it off and put it back in the doorpocket. You just left the oil, fuel, dirt, water and snow out of the truck and off your feet! Note: DEF is very caustic! Keep it off the floor!
That's how I kept my truck spotless by not dragging crap into the cab! Wash them with your work clothes. I did this even when at a shipper or rest area or wherever. I hate sweeping or vacuuming when it's easier to keep it clean by stopping the dirt at the door!
If you have running boards that you actually can stand on they sell pads made out of artificial grass that mounts to them to get the heavy dirt off your shoes. They come with huge tie wraps to mount them with. I even use the carpet on my pickup trucks side rails!
Keep those fuel receipts!
When you do your taxes give them to your accountant because diesel is pre taxed for commercial users! This is a great refund waiting to happen! But be nice to your CPA and stack them with a clip! They hate pulling receipts out of bags and boxes,
Read your next receipt and be sitting down when you look at the tax column! My dad drove a Mercedes and always got a great refund off diesel taxes!
Blue Sky's and Safe Journeys!
Great tips! Particularly on the taxes! Holy cow!
@@ChangingLanes oh yeah! If you have a diesel anything from car to truck and RV keep the receipts NOT a credit card statement as it wont have the taxes on it.
Why give Uncle Sam that cash when you will spend it smarter than he will!
I received the TSD card a few weeks ago and used it for the first time today and saved 40 cents/gallon off of the pump price!! Better yet, it was 50 cents/gallon less than my usual fuel stop!! Thank you for all your work helping newbies like me.
Nice! 👍🏼
Love’s is always the cleanest truck stop you can use, in my opinion as a truck driver.
We picked up a TSD card about 6 week ago. Thank you guys for sharing. We are budget travelers and every bit of savings is so important to us. Hope with all the referrals y'all are being well taken care of! We love that the RV community is so willing to share with one another!
After 10 years of pulling a fifth wheel, I’ve never heard of this program. It’s always a pain refueling in the truck lanes, because you have to go inside to pay. This is awesome!!! Thanks for sharing!!!
Thanks for watching, Ron! Hope you check out the rest of our channel! 😊
OTR trucker here. Thanks Chad and Tara for putting that info out there. Most of us dont mind seeing RVs in the fuel island. Just know there are three spots in most lanes waiting, fueling, and going inside(which is pulled forward in front of the fuel pumps) . We understand your too big for the auto side so go ahead. You need just about as much room as we do. But, please don't hold any of the positions up. Heck I drive a refrigerated or reefer trailer by the time I fill the truck tanks, DEF and pull forward to fuel the reefer its a good 20minutes. Also, Truckers live by federal law hours of Service. And one clock we follow, once it starts it does not stop, like a timer. The more time you spend in the island in any of the three spots is time off our clocks we can't get back. So please be courteous. Even in the third position(going inside) if your taking over 20 minutes your taking too long. You need to move your vehicle so the lane can flow.
Small tip. Get a box of medical type gloves so you don't have dirty smelly gloves in your truck.
Yes, indeed! Lowes sells Venom gloves in the paint section...... tough and fits my XXL hands. Box in the pocket of the Silverado.
Harbor Freight latex gloves
I get the black nitrile gloves from Harbor Freight because they are thicker, but you can get the thinner once’s for a little les expensive.
Yes, I carry a box of the blue Medical type gloves from Harbor Freight in the truck and camper. Take them off at the pump and into the trash
Na, stop trying to fill the land fills. Just use reusable gloves, they don’t smell unless you put them to your nose. If you do that, you have more issues than the gloves.
This is amazing. I worked in the Energy Industry forever and I was not aware of this. You guys are amazing and thanks to Phil and Stacy who we follow as well. We love you guys and so appreciate your tips. Already applied for the card!!!
As a former truck driver I appreciate everything you are telling RVers about using truck lanes for refueling. As the new owner of a diesel powered motorhome I really appreciate the info about TSD fuel card, that’s huge, thank you very much.
Definitely going to get this fleet card. Thanks for the great tip and video.
A reefer is the motor on the front top of the refrigerated trailers that drive the freezer to keep the trailers goods cold. Great video!
Bingo! Figured it was something like that. 👍🏼
Is there road tax on Reefer fuel? Thx!
No
Yes, it’s for your reefer unit. Not for your rolling papers. LOL 😝
@@knightwing4 Reefer madness dude! lol
Am just starting out full timing RV....so appreciated this video....referring you with TSD. Many thanks!
WOW that is awesome! Great Job guys. I filed out the app. today and have you down as a reference. Thank you for this great tip!
Thanks for sharing. As always, love the outtakes. Safe travels!
I really love watching your videos. I’ve never minded RVer’s on the fuel island ...just as long as the curtains aren’t pulled and slides out. I long to get out more for pleasure in an RV of some sort when I retire. Thanks for the fuel card tip as well. Be Safe out there.
No worries I was just like you guys when I first started driving a semi we've all been there
Having a cute little puppy dog is a bonus
Thanks for the tip on the fuel card. That will definitely come in handy on our long trips. Safe travels
We got ours back in September because of Phil and Stacy and love that TSD card!! The TSD app on the phone shows you where the best prices are around you, what the prices are and when it was last updated.
This was an awesome info vid guys. Wish we had found it 3 months ago before we found all the same things... except we did not know about the TSD card so applying now and on our way to Florida. Happy travels fromLorne and Val.
Always great tips from Chad and Tara. A recent trip my wife and I had while traveling the FL panhandle at a Loves fuel stop. One: the down side of a truck stop fueling station is the diesel fuel nozzles are bigger (for high volume) and on my 2018 diesel pickup (and a previously owned 2011 diesel P/U) these nozzles barely fit the fuel fill. So be careful while filling because it will surprise you, you can usually hear the fuel coming up your tank fill hose and release the fuel nozzle handle in time and hopefully not get a "fuel shower". 2: the pump would not take my debit card, so i went inside to the fuel pay register, then was asked how much, said 50, then was asked 50 dollars or 50 gallons. 50 dollars i replied! So be aware out there and safe travels.
You guys are awesome. Next year we start the journey also. Your tips have been so helpful and are giving us the confidence we will need. Thank you.
Thanks for the info on the TSD card. Like many others here I also have the Flying J/Pilot RV Plus card but having the option to stop at a Love's or TA will be great! I put Changing Lanes in the reference line when I applied. :)
You guys rock. Contacted the company to get one of these cards, and they are flooded with calls because of you. Please keep the valuable tips on RV life coming!! Two more years and I'm done with the rat race.
I just sent in my application. Fueling is costly and any savings is great. Changing lanes will be getting $25.00 and another $25.00 from my card. Thanks for the tip
Thank you for the info. We learn a lot from your channel and Phil and Stacy. Take care and be safe!
Got my card, referenced you when applying, and have used my card (didn’t even really need fuel). Saved $4.55 minus the 10% ($.46)! Worked like a champ, thank you!
Harbor Freight HD Latex Gloves.
I use these for most everything from oil changes to Yes the Poop hoses.
Keep up the good work on your videos.
Awesome, gonna get one of these cards...
And to think I almost passed this vid up thinking it was just another Flying J RV discount card vid. Watched it anyway not expecting to learn anything I haven’t already seen, because I almost always learn something from your vids. Glad I stayed, got so much more than I expected.
Great work as always!!!
Oh man, these tips are GOLD. Thanks so much for this video!
Great info, I will be definitely checking out that card, thanks you two!
You guys are Awesome. I have learned a lot about 5th wheel toy hauler pulling through y'all. Thank you so much. 👍👍🇺🇸
I am a new R v er and learned aboutTSD before our first trip. Savings are amazing !
How do I get a tsd card? Just got my new super c
Ben pulling a fifth wheel for over 10 years, never knew about this....THANKS so much!!! you guys are great and look forward to your videos
Thank you for including TSD we will be sure to reference you. On our application!
Love you two! We love your video’s!
I have a Flying J Card/sure could use another card, also I use to drive a tractor-trailer, so thank you for the info
Just applied for the card. Used y'all as a reference! Thank you for telling us about this.
Nice convo, thanks for sharing guys!
Thats such good info, I learned all this the hard way lol
I have the rv plus with an HDT truck. It’s worth it for me to look into this thank you for posting👍👍
Great Heads Up Video !
Applied for the card. Yep, I put down changing lanes as the referral. Thanks for the great information. Ps: love your puppy.
Great video - thanks. Not an RVer yet and this was really helpful, especially the tip on the TSD card. DEF is a solution of urea in water (why it smells like cat pee) and is highly corrosive. The white crystalline stuff around your fill point is dried DEF. You might want to rinse any spilled solution off with a bottle of water after filling. Stay safe.
Diesel Exhaust Fluid ( more commonly known as cow pee) is
Ammonia and Carbon
Just received ours. Did mention Changing Lanes. Received card within two days for $70 expedite &
FedEx overnight. Good video.
Yep! I had heard about the TDS card on Phil and Stacy's channel as well. If I ever get into a 5'er/diesel setup like I'm hoping to I'll be applying for one of those. (I've already told my brother about it also.) Another great video guys... Hugs to the puppy and best wishes for safe travels!
Great video with a lot of good info. Reefer fuel does not have road tax added. Also if your a newbie at a truck stops watch your satellite pump to make sure the guy next to you does not take advantage of you. When you pull in your lane you have a nozzle on both sides that pump fuel and is billed to your card.
Ohhhhhh! Good point on the satellite pump!! Thanks for the tip!👍🏼
Re Love's not having an RV program: When Good Sam inaugurated their member fuel discount program, it was with Love's. It lasted a few years and then apparently they stopped getting along. Since then GS has offered their program with Pilot/Flying J.
Great tip on the TSD Logistics. Just filled out an application and mentioned "Changing Lanes" in the referral. Thanks a bunch for the tip!
Great tips! Thank you for sharing. We are going to take a look at TSD right now. We look forward to more adventures with you guys!
Loves is working hard to put one every 60 miles or so apart and as a professional driver they are the cleanest truck stops by far
Also get a loves reward card earn points for every gallon pumped get free merchandise from inside
Thank you for for the pull forward tip as a driver much appreciated 👍 tip to you get the rewards cards that help you can use your points for purchases in the store also the jugs of def is much higher pergallon then at the pumps
Thanks.. we need to get the rewards cards! 👍🏼
had to watch it again so I hears everything again, Homework is paying off, thank you guys
That is amazing!! Thank you so much for the fuel tip, that will.save us a ton with the trips we have with the kids this summer pulling our 38' fifth wheel
Not sure on the price breaks. I had heard about them but consistently found way cheaper diesel at the smaller no name shops than the flying J or pilot or TA. Just got back from traveling between Chicago and Cheyenne WY via I80. Routinely there was a 30-40 cent different per gallon on diesel. While the large truck stops charge way more but may have some discounts of 10-20 cents per gallon, they were still way above the Kum-n-Go and other smaller ones. Just keep an eye out for the smaller ones as you travel and your tank is relatively full. You should also see a pattern. My set up was about 50 feet long in total. While not the largest, I had no issues maneuvering in those stations. Many of them had several trucks also. And I could use my credit card at the pump, with no issues of having to go into the store. While I’m sure there are good discounts, I had better luck at the small places.
Diesel mechanic will tell you big mistake, no volume stops dirty old fuel cause problems, reason logistics fleets ONLY use truck stops, also little guys aren’t configured for 40’+ and finally I average $0.40 savings off sign price plus free showers food overnight parking laundry
The pup had me laughing! If the pup could talk...Cmon already, let's go, I have things to do!🐶😂😂😂😂
Great video ! Lots of useful information I will use on our next trip. I usually walk inside to prepay, so you saved me a walk and some time. Never thought about pulling around back with the trucks when we are not pulling the RV. Big savings makes it worth it. Thanks again and I will pass along this information to others.
Wow that TST is a fantastic discount thank you for the hookup
Good info if I ever go fiver and diesel rather than my dragger with gas.
And please consider Grand Design rigs! (2020 Momentum 351M / '17 F-450 is our combination) Grand Design Rallies are the best!
We love the TSD card! They also have a facebook page: TSD RV Fuel Program. All the info you need and you can ask them questions and they respond quickly. Makes RVing more enjoyable when you save money.
They're very good about answering email also... 👍🏼
So good to use only at truck stops?
You must use the truck lanes at the stations that give the TSD discount. Right now the best discount is at Loves but there are discounts at Pilot/Flying J, Road Ranger, and AMBest. They are trying to add others as the use of the card increases.
Best tip I’ve seen in over two years of watching RV videos! Thank you guys! I instantaneously subscribed because of this video...
Welcome to our channel! 😊
Always great info and hilarious bloopers.
Reefer fuel are for commercial trailers that have a reefer to refrigerate their load. It does NOT get road taxed. Which makes it cheaper.
So is there any repercussions to using the "reefer" fuel if you are not driving a reefer? For instance red diesel for AG is supposed to be illegal to use in your personal vehicle because you do not pay taxes on it. wouldn't the reefer fuel be the same thing?
@@tonyduran4764 Yes, at some stations, reefer fuel is coolered red. This is to aid the inspectors at commercial truck inspection sites to know if drivers are trying to cheat the system by putting non taxed fuel into their fuel tanks. However, the red coloring is just a dye some companies put into their off road diesel fuel to aid in determining the difference. The bigger truck stop stations such as the big five ( Loves, Pilot, Flying J, TA & Petro) don't put any dyes at most of their stations. It's just green like the regular diesel fuel. What it boils down to is, let your conscience be your guide.
The lady voice sounds very similar to the lady of the couple on Long Long honeymoon who also tow a fifth wheel
Another great video Chad & Tara. Really appreciate the tip on TSD. Glad they are sharing the discount that most companies receive. Buy the way, Reefer fuel is diesel also. It is just in the refrigerator, reefer unit, on a trailer to keep it cold. Some companies want the driver to fuel separate so they can keep up with this reefer amount since it doesn't go in the truck. Keep the video's coming. New RV'er and these help so much..
Saw your video on TSD cards right before we left for Florida. Received one in the mail the next week. Used it four times and saved over $251.27.Thank you very much for your information.
Nice! 👍🏼
I think loves are the nicer stops in general.
We're finding that out recently! 👍🏼
I just applied for the TDS card and used you as my reference - do I get a beer now or do I owe You one? A lil fuzzy on the details... 😜🍻🇺🇸
I think we owe you a beer till you buy fuel.. then you owe us a beer back.... so it's a wash. 😊 🍻
@@ChangingLanes Perfect! Beer sounds really good right now 😉🍻
@@ChangingLanes or a "backwash"
Just purchasing our first RV (GD Solitude). Retirees hitting the road full time. Your videos have provided a wealth of information. Thanks so much, you guys are awesome!
Thanks for the info. Signed up and identified Changing Lanes as my referral. Keep up the good work!
I carry 2 of the blue DEF containers in the back of our truck that I fill at the trucking lane. It's 1/2 the price as buying it at stores. I bought 2 and just refill them. About $6 savings.
Thanks for the info. BTW, can you give info on your doggies bed? :)
Sure thing! She loves it! amzn.to/2roMywX
Thanks
Thanks for beating me to the question 😂😂
We have a dog bed like Changing Lanes and the bed works great and the dogs love it, the dogs can see out also.
@@rvdogfl Watch the whole video and just watch daisy.. LOL! she's so bored with the whole thing!
Omg guys my wife and I just bought our first RV yesterday. The couple we bought it from met you two at a Cracker Barrel awhile back. They told us about the card and were defiantly doing it. Love watching all your tips and tricks. Soo excited to start our adventures. Looking forward to meeting y’all one day. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for the great tip on the fleet card! TSD came through with the card unexpectedly fast and I used it yesterday to fill up with a crazy discount.
Reefer is a refrigerated trailer, that has a diesel engine on the front nose of the trailer.
The issue I have with this card is; since they don’t do a credit check they ask for your SS#. I have a real issue with that!!!
This is the info I was looking for. Thank you, Ken.
These pumps fill suuuuper quick too and the fuel and DEF is always fresh!
Thanks for the tip! We traveled cross-country with our TSD card and it really paid off.
I put my glove on top of the diesel cap in fuel door.
Great idea! 👍🏼
Doesn’t it get wet when it rains?
good point! LOL
If you'er going to pump diesel, don't be a sissy
@@ChangingLanes Right why keep inside & keep smelling while driving down the Road Bad enough that you have to stand in it while Filling yourself up Then get all over your floor mat and Carpet Almost have to where a Rubber Boot ! lol
I'm a retired truckdriver you did good job explaining the card.
DEF is made with Urea which is like ammonia and smells like cat pee. Reefer is the refrigerated trucks, fuel not used to drive on the road can get big discount of no road tax in many places. We have fuel stations that sell offroad diesel that is dyed red and no road tax. If you get caught using it in your vehicle to drive it is a big fine. But if you have diesel items it works great for generators, tractors and off road toys. Be Safe!
Thanks for watching! Hope you check out the rest of our channel! 😊
Bravo!!!! Outstanding tip, Cha-Ching!
Wow this video is Super useful. I learned alot thank you so much for making this.
Our routine is, when I pull the coach into the truck pumps my wife walks the dog and scopes out the exit route. The dog likes this so much he now starts barking at the door when I pull up to the pumps.😉
Thanks for the info about the fuel card! I love watching your videos.
Just found your channel, looks good.
SAFETY TIP
When at the truck islands and walking to go in to the truck stop, be sure to stay at least 10ft in front of the big rigs. There is a big blind spot directly in front of most big rigs and just plain can't see anyone walking in front of them . Watch for trucks pulling out of the fuel lanes and/or off the pull up line. Watch for the driver in the truck and what they may be ready to do. Try to make eye contact to be sure they see you. Another tip, if you may need to walk in back of a rig , don't get too close either. When air brakes release they don't make much noise and not give much warning of movement. Most times on the back side of a big rig backing up there is little to no noise or warning of movement.
Anyone with kids PLEASE escort them inside. I have seen several instances (not a regular thing) of young kids running under fueling trucks. They don't realize the dangers and chances of a driver seeing a kid dart under their rig would be slim.
Thanks for your time to read this, 25+ years trucking,
Cuzzineddie
All great tips! Thanks! 👍🏼
I just applied for a TSD card. Thank you for the tip. Safe travels!!
Thanks for the referral! 👍🏼 😊
Awesome tip on the TSD card. Major savings on fuel cost!! Thanks👍😃
Thank you so much for this info Chad and Tara! I appreciate it.
Another awesome and very informative video! Thank you and travel safe.
We are pulling a Long rig also. ( 40 ft 5th Wheel) I have learned more from you than the rest of the rv blogs combined.
Thank you!