Steve Jobs on Joseph Juran and Quality

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  • Опубліковано 23 січ 2014
  • Interview made in the 1990s during production of “An Immigrant’s Gift.”
    © WoodsEnd, Inc., & G. Howland Blackiston. Commercial use prohibited.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 358

  • @piedude3572
    @piedude3572 7 років тому +772

    My left ear loved it

  • @mnecmonic
    @mnecmonic 7 років тому +322

    Steve never fail to amaze me in all his interviews, i don't know if it's his charisma or the aura that surrounds him...he seemed to have the ability to convey his message in a very clear and understandable way...i don't find many people can do that.

    • @First.Last.99
      @First.Last.99 3 роки тому +10

      Looks like he understood stuff always, and if he didn't he says I don't know. He was very bright. He knows how to paint the mind picture also!

    • @williamschimdi2641
      @williamschimdi2641 3 роки тому +5

      Steve is the best of the business gurus I know..

    • @keltz5028
      @keltz5028 3 роки тому +3

      That’s the Reality Distortion Field created by Steve Jobs talking to you...and that inspired engineers and managers to overcome their limits.

    • @Athithi7
      @Athithi7 3 роки тому +2

      You see the thing with Steve Jobs is his choice words are very Simple yet profound. A lot of speakers out there focus on using high sounding words rather than the impact, that's what sets him apart

    • @victoronyekere
      @victoronyekere 2 роки тому +1

      @seokhee Han So true

  • @patriciaegan7244
    @patriciaegan7244 3 роки тому +44

    Steve Jobs, thank you for creating jobs. I’m sorry that you’re not here physically, but you will always be here spiritually.

  • @PathfinderHistoryTravel
    @PathfinderHistoryTravel 2 роки тому +20

    So refreshing to hear someone talk without up-talk or vocal fry. And without saying “like” or “right?” in every sentence.

  • @weizheng673
    @weizheng673 Рік тому +16

    His vision, the topics in this interview, is highly relevant today. He is truly a visionary of our time. He is such a genius. He co -founded Apple in his early 20, by 25 Apple Inc., already went public. He was so young in this interview that his presentation was so eloquent.

  • @reinierwilson6
    @reinierwilson6 9 років тому +88

    ..."going back to the basics and relearn them". Amazing. This guy was an authentic outlier!

    • @aviralmittal89
      @aviralmittal89 3 роки тому +4

      no doubt about it. Never heard him speak when he is not dropping major insights.

    • @WokerThanThou
      @WokerThanThou 3 роки тому +3

      First Principles

    • @michaelngan99
      @michaelngan99 2 роки тому +3

      And he also talked about Japanese Planning, in which the Americans still are not doing.

  • @melstalk
    @melstalk 3 роки тому +70

    'I can't answer you. I'm ignorant" So honest and straight forward! A great leader

  • @johnmosheim
    @johnmosheim 5 місяців тому +2

    I get humbled all the time by Steve Jobs integrity, humility and his beyond comprehension imagination and drive. He was really a gem of humanity in my opinion and I miss the fact that he died, but interviews like this make me feel maybe a large part of his ideas and what he genuinely tried to convey during his interviews are very much alive. Feel really lucky to have lived when Steve was alive.

  • @theodoreyd
    @theodoreyd 5 років тому +67

    He is such a thoughtful and well spoken person. Amazing

  • @yamil.343
    @yamil.343 2 роки тому +7

    Once upon a time a revolutionary man comes along & changes everything.

  • @FPVphilly
    @FPVphilly Рік тому +2

    It’s 2023 and this video should be show in business schools in how to learn from Steve in been successful.

  • @arpahal-fayette3870
    @arpahal-fayette3870 3 роки тому +19

    Internally driven, I do believe that Steve. Thanks for all your sacrifices to make the world a better place to live.

  • @yulloveyullove326
    @yulloveyullove326 4 роки тому +25

    His eyes and the way he talked showed that he was a genius. So sad he is not there anymore.

  • @JuanMartinez-fu9cb
    @JuanMartinez-fu9cb 9 років тому +37

    Great. Love to hear so clear mind.

  • @TMCsVideoADay.
    @TMCsVideoADay. 10 місяців тому +9

    Joseph Moses Juran was a Romanian-born American engineer, management consultant and author. He was an advocate for quality and quality management and wrote several books on the topics. He was the brother of Academy Award winner Nathan Juran.

  • @peterkogl1329
    @peterkogl1329 3 роки тому +6

    What an interview, STeve Jobs at his ultimate best teaching mode!!!

  • @shahilagh
    @shahilagh 8 років тому +14

    steve i love you and i feel so close to you and all the people you admire. i love to work with ppl with such vision

    • @sinhsou636
      @sinhsou636 6 років тому +1

      shahilagh Steve is my roommate

  • @dd7061
    @dd7061 5 місяців тому +1

    My left year loved the quality talk

  • @TheMyrmidon22
    @TheMyrmidon22 9 місяців тому +1

    The last question is the best one yet.
    The answer, "he was focused."

  • @ziggytonumaa
    @ziggytonumaa 3 роки тому +19

    Settings > Accessibility > Sound > Mono audio

    • @ShashwatVikram
      @ShashwatVikram 3 роки тому +3

      The most underrated comment of this video. Thank you for saving the listening experience of such an amazing video.

    • @dhadad9885
      @dhadad9885 3 роки тому +1

      This comment should get a knighthood.

    • @keshav2136
      @keshav2136 3 роки тому +1

      Thank you buddy

    • @justinpruim5678
      @justinpruim5678 29 днів тому

      Amazing

    • @bluepearls2006
      @bluepearls2006 21 день тому

      You inderstood what Steve jobs ment as quality ❤

  • @jla2462
    @jla2462 3 роки тому +8

    Very composed man deep and control of his thoughts

  • @hammedtukur
    @hammedtukur 2 роки тому +5

    He is so straight forward. He doesn't pretend to know sth.

  • @slan7
    @slan7 4 роки тому +4

    Great video quality. All of the videos of Jobs I've seen when he was young made him look like a historical relic because of the video quality of that time.

  • @luxurreview
    @luxurreview 2 роки тому +4

    Steve looks handsome in that outfit! Although I love his iconic 501s and Mock Necks you can’t beat the beauty of a white shirt and tie.

  • @savanaviolenta
    @savanaviolenta 3 роки тому +13

    He was a visoner, a passionate one from start to finish that's why he was so big.

  • @jeffrey_369
    @jeffrey_369 Рік тому +2

    Great questions, great answers.

  • @onelife8367
    @onelife8367 6 років тому +12

    "Any question asked was the most the most important question that could have been asked in that moment (for Jor Juran." Waw. If that is how people would treat one another, no one would have shied away from reaching out and asking each other the questions they hide in the contours of their hearts and minds.

  • @ap6160
    @ap6160 4 роки тому +5

    I love how he paused at 2:25 to really think and reflect on his answer before he spoke

    • @MrParnak
      @MrParnak 4 роки тому +3

      he's been known to doing that a lot! this is one of the traits that very few people have! Watch him more and you realise how natural he use to make this into any of his discussions or interviews

    • @ap6160
      @ap6160 4 роки тому

      @@MrParnak True!

    • @ARichardP
      @ARichardP Рік тому

      Yes, that was impressive and rare to see. The rapidity of a responding is so ingrained in most of us. Steve Jobs had some Buddhist mindfulness training starting at a fairly young age.

  • @LeifEliasson
    @LeifEliasson 4 роки тому +8

    Steve has and will always be my guiding star

  • @postblitz
    @postblitz 3 роки тому +19

    11:04 the mark of an intelligent person.

  • @LallaBadrae1
    @LallaBadrae1 28 днів тому

    So much intelligence. And he didn’t even have to memorize things !! Spontaneous answers !

  • @mark-2237
    @mark-2237 9 років тому +48

    give the man some water how can you not see him struggling?

    • @fenderstratADHD
      @fenderstratADHD 7 років тому +1

      Mark - I know that when they 1st found out that he was sick was in 2003 but was he sick when he did this??

    • @ian-checkmyaboutsection3961
      @ian-checkmyaboutsection3961 5 років тому +2

      671JH there’s rumours that the cancer entered him during his 20s but he never knew about it. The amount of fruit he ate slowed the growth of that cancer significantly.

    • @MagicAyrtonforever
      @MagicAyrtonforever 3 роки тому +2

      @@ian-checkmyaboutsection3961 I read that he drank huge quantities of Carrot juice which is what started it. Too much.

  • @dreamscolourhouse3252
    @dreamscolourhouse3252 11 місяців тому

    Genius. Every interview and his quotes are Great🙏.

  • @ebrelus7687
    @ebrelus7687 5 років тому +24

    Most important part. 2:32 "America is in a tough spot right now, i think we've forgotten the basics we've so prosperous so longthat we took many things for granted and we forgot how much work it took to actually build and sustain those basic things like great education system thinkgs like great industry and we are faced with relearning those things going back to the basics (..) why we are outmanufactured why we are outplanned by Japan. It's not because Japanese are tricking us, it's not because Japanese are better intelectually it's because we are being out planned we are being out strategized we are out manufactured. There is nothing that can't be fixed but we're not going to fix it up here we are going to fix it by getting back to basics."
    So awesome words. So true. It is as actual as was back then. Nothing changed. And no tarrifs can fix it, no blaming others for own failures, omission.
    Stoping globalisation or trying to outplay it won't help either. It's about reengineering all processes, going back to basics, rebuilding by innovativeness, effective planning, strategy, going back to work. Nobody seems to be able to aknowledge such a simple fact.
    This man was incredibly unbiased and honest, going straight to the point, essence. That's why his monopoly grew so fast, outcompiting other companies by being innovative, not just copying faster, cheaper on bigger scale.
    Oh yes, Peter Thiel would tell you all great companies are monopolies, since competition eventually kills market draining profit to zero and killing all producers.
    You need to have a product which can't be easily copied, evolving fast, or build new innovative products to keep previous relevant by adding good brand and buying true customer loyalty. This loyalty comes not from marketing but from real value, concious faith in a good product, being a cofounder of the next great products and innovations.
    Product which gets worse is like a leader who doesn't deliver to his subjects, breaking a mutual deal, once lost faith can't be rebuilt, easily. Death of Jobs was a great loss for Apple. It also market ending of it's effectiveness and start of rising competition. Without creating anything new this market is toasted. Without Jobs it's nearly impossible for Apple to find the right direction and risking going there all-in to build the next backthrou while brand will be slowly diminishing.

    • @CaptainPlanet007
      @CaptainPlanet007 3 роки тому +1

      He’s right but instead of Japan, I think he meant China 🇨🇳

    • @ghost180sx
      @ghost180sx 3 роки тому +1

      @@CaptainPlanet007 nah, the strategy and aim is different. They're not at all focused on quality, but on quantity and flooding the market by saturation and blanketing. They are playing into modern American consumer culture which values throwaway objects.
      Also, post war Japan is very different than post war China. One decided very quickly to change their path to that of an ally and good global citizen as opposed to a rival imperial power, whereas the other has a chip on its shoulder dating from beyond the Opium wars to the present; adversarially attempting to become the next hegemony on the globe at all costs and teaching us all a lesson by living up to their namesake.

    • @CaptainPlanet007
      @CaptainPlanet007 3 роки тому

      @@ghost180sx True, you just hit the nail on the head by mentioning what seems to be the culprit of their culture which is seizing the westerners hunger for fast and cheap products in order to meet their ultimate goal- world power!
      This means steal, cheat, buying politicians and influential to the culture..Hollywood! Unlike the imperialist Japanese era which integrity’s and honorary is the base of their traditions and culture, Chinese has no regards for any of it! This shows in their human rights and freedom of press approaches. America should understand that they’re dealing with a different kind front, the CCP 🇨🇳! If we choose to ignore this small dose of so-called ‘new age socialism’, one day will wake up to a communist nightmare that will become reality far worst than Mao and Stalin.

    • @rainbowsigma6214
      @rainbowsigma6214 4 місяці тому

      ​​@@CaptainPlanet007
      What a weak attempt to dehumanize Chinese 😂😂😂
      I think it boils down to simple terms
      the Chinese work way harder
      The Americans only want to stay home and collect unemployment benefits 😂😂😂
      If we r talkng about hman rights US Is the BIGGEST Human Rights Violatr of the 21st century by FAR
      So get out of here with your 50cent propaganda murican 😂😂

    • @rainbowsigma6214
      @rainbowsigma6214 4 місяці тому

      ​@@ghost180sxPost war China is a pacifist unlike Japan who dont admit their war crmes and US who is still actively fnding their gnocidal Military Cmplex

  • @jermainepalk1832
    @jermainepalk1832 3 роки тому +7

    He answers questions very well

    • @wingsfan1450
      @wingsfan1450 3 роки тому +3

      No wasted words...no ums and uhs. I love how he takes a few seconds then begins his answer.

    • @jermainepalk1832
      @jermainepalk1832 3 роки тому

      @@wingsfan1450 👍

  • @ahmedb2559
    @ahmedb2559 11 місяців тому +1

    Thank you

  • @iwaited90daystochangemynam55
    @iwaited90daystochangemynam55 2 роки тому +4

    Camera man had a lot of fun zooming in and out

  • @kanicakhanom7483
    @kanicakhanom7483 Рік тому +1

    Steve is my broken heart
    It should be never recovered 💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔

  • @oumarsountal6628
    @oumarsountal6628 3 роки тому +1

    Hello everyone one thing we Learned from Steve job he said when we were borned world like that we can't change the world everything round us they call life someone made like you they are not better than or smarter than we can work harder save some money and having families good life that is minimum things if you say I can do yes you can do we are strongly believed in that statement we never ever finished any good education, but everything we touched must be done well thank you very much everyone for sharing knowledge that beneficial please post more it's very very important we are very lucky people that we know & knowledge that we learned without hardship experiences never ever ever happened

  • @HIDlarissaTERRY
    @HIDlarissaTERRY 7 місяців тому

    beautiful moments of life to inspire!

  • @onelife9441
    @onelife9441 5 років тому +31

    My favorite things in life don't cost any money. It's really clear that the most precious resource we all have is
    .
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    .
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    TIME. - Steve Jobs

  • @jessicagard3242
    @jessicagard3242 8 років тому +2

    thanks a lot for this video !

  • @genesisalbertjamon8527
    @genesisalbertjamon8527 4 місяці тому

    Its sad to see that all the comments here is about Steve, while the video is made for Mr. Juran which arguably steve's one of the biggest influencer and mentor. Cheers Mr. Juran for being such a gift the industry.

  • @chelsea12345696
    @chelsea12345696 8 років тому +7

    Sage words that are still applicable now. Should be taught as part of all business courses.

  • @ernestocastelli9005
    @ernestocastelli9005 9 років тому +3

    Great interview! " You should have to ask permission to improve your process". Love him, RIP.

  • @ashishgurung1417
    @ashishgurung1417 4 роки тому +3

    1 MIN SO FAR...
    *I HOPE MY LEFT EAR SURVIVES THE BATTLE* .

  • @pranavverma16
    @pranavverma16 3 роки тому +6

    UA-cam promoting Steve Jobs all of a sudden

  • @pinkyyy987
    @pinkyyy987 Рік тому +2

    He was very handsome back then lol .. also really smart and inspirational 💗

  • @enzo_armani
    @enzo_armani 7 років тому +5

    People that let a sustainable brand in the world are those who are internaly driven to give something back

    • @togasurf
      @togasurf 3 роки тому

      Noticed that line particularly!!!!

  • @paulvannan6534
    @paulvannan6534 2 роки тому +1

    Wow. Steve Jobs does not blink!

  • @ritshpatidar
    @ritshpatidar Рік тому +1

    Nowadays quality talks like this are rare

  • @ertugrulcavusoglu7117
    @ertugrulcavusoglu7117 Рік тому

    My left ear love this!

  • @RohanShirsat
    @RohanShirsat 3 роки тому +7

    Show these videos to all Senior Executives

  • @orange-vlcybpd2
    @orange-vlcybpd2 5 місяців тому +1

    6:39 "Where we have to start is with our products and our services, not with our marketing departments."

  • @kshemamindcarementalhealts8192
    @kshemamindcarementalhealts8192 9 місяців тому

    We miss you somuch......I hope we will meats again soon

  • @fullwisewords
    @fullwisewords 5 років тому +33

    7:11-7:45 DMX said about the same thing in an interview before. DMX: "If you are quick to accept that you are a King when people give you praise, you will be quick to accept that you are a fool when criticized." something to that effect. Jobs just went a little further with the internally motivated part. Interesting how knowledge applies across people.

    • @thripper5332
      @thripper5332 3 роки тому +2

      who cares about some rapper lmao

    • @StanpapiTV
      @StanpapiTV 3 роки тому +1

      @@thripper5332 Fuck You

    • @coreyvillanueva4247
      @coreyvillanueva4247 2 роки тому +4

      @@thripper5332 you’re just full of sunshine huh

    • @ARichardP
      @ARichardP Рік тому +1

      That is an interesting quote, the way it is stated. It’s been said many different ways. Being externally controlled and focused (unless by choice) causes all sorts of emotional and psychological problems that lead to poor performance. When you feel you have no power to influence outcomes you start to feel crazy. But even then you have the ability to control your attitude and gain a certain sense of freedom and power.
      This interview with Jobs was recorded 12-19-1991.

    • @pawelniesporek7
      @pawelniesporek7 7 місяців тому

      ​@@ARichardP That's a great thought.
      Also smells like stoicism;)

  • @GeorgiesMom723
    @GeorgiesMom723 4 роки тому +3

    What a man!

  • @_suki_
    @_suki_ 8 місяців тому +1

    Permission to not have to ask permission -> empowerment at every level leads to quality.

  • @kanicakhanom7483
    @kanicakhanom7483 Рік тому

    Lots of time spend for me to
    And I should never forget him
    But I didn't anything for him
    He was a part of my life 💔💔💔💔💔💔💔😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

  • @ihsan6220
    @ihsan6220 3 роки тому +1

    I have to confess he was so handsome
    In his heydays. Some pple r jus born gr8

  • @training2012full
    @training2012full 2 роки тому +1

    Great he given words to what I think👍

  • @janvi2816
    @janvi2816 9 місяців тому +1

    8:14 loved this utmost❤❤

  • @malvinderkaur4187
    @malvinderkaur4187 3 роки тому +1

    His school speech exactly my thoughts.

  • @curiousism9140
    @curiousism9140 Рік тому +1

    Steve Jobs ❤️

  • @saskiavanhoutert3190
    @saskiavanhoutert3190 6 років тому

    Somehow I understand his saying, Steve and others are appreciated by me

  • @abeerchoubey2392
    @abeerchoubey2392 5 років тому +11

    2:14 - Broadcasters want to do a program on/with Madonna.
    Steve(in his mind)- Yeah, I'll "facetime" with her in the future...😎

  • @kanicakhanom7483
    @kanicakhanom7483 Рік тому +1

    He was a really great man 💙💙💙💙💙💙

  • @luisquinta5290
    @luisquinta5290 9 місяців тому

    amazing

  • @William_Clinton_Muguai
    @William_Clinton_Muguai 3 роки тому +1

    Good LORD! This man was a dreamboat!

  • @walfarisful
    @walfarisful 7 років тому +1

    This video is a kind of vital few of the youtube (as per Dr. Juran said when he explained the parito principle 20/80 ) , there are a lot of trivial many !!

  • @CesarRuiz-zp9fx
    @CesarRuiz-zp9fx 2 роки тому

    Yes I agree... some risks and sacrifices must be made to make it through though

  • @slob5041
    @slob5041 11 місяців тому

    My top ear loved it

  • @jellovendigar
    @jellovendigar 2 роки тому +3

    It feels weird to hear him introduce himself. The video is from a time before he needed no introduction

  • @nayranay97
    @nayranay97 Рік тому

    Even Steve talking about filosofi🌻

  • @CLSGL
    @CLSGL 4 роки тому +9

    One of the biggest things I’ve ever learned from Jobs is to think before you speak. It’s one thing to hear that, it’s another thing to see someone doing it.
    Whenever someone asks him a question, he takes the time to look down, think about his response, and then he’ll start talking.

    • @ag-bk5wf
      @ag-bk5wf 3 роки тому

      Ahaha you never heard the saying think before you speak?? Hha

    • @CLSGL
      @CLSGL 3 роки тому +3

      ANDREW Garcia “It’s one thing to hear that, it’s another thing to see someone doing it.”
      Did you even read the comment?

  • @zakariahlafreniere1332
    @zakariahlafreniere1332 2 роки тому +1

    genius works

  • @ShivaKumar-bt4ds
    @ShivaKumar-bt4ds 7 місяців тому

    Father God bless

  • @kanicakhanom7483
    @kanicakhanom7483 Рік тому

    He is a greatest hero apple industry of holl would ❤️❤️❤️💙💙💙💚💚💚

  • @tomschueller4545
    @tomschueller4545 Рік тому

    Don't need the tie Mr. Jobs, Next computer? And THE creator of THE best company in the world.

  • @MarkGraban
    @MarkGraban 10 років тому +4

    More background can be found about the video here: everystevejobsvideo.com/steve-jobs-talks-about-joe-juran-management-guru/

  • @kssaini5600
    @kssaini5600 Рік тому +1

    Wow

  • @ShivaKumar-bt4ds
    @ShivaKumar-bt4ds 7 місяців тому

    Brother beautiful

  • @leecooper1644
    @leecooper1644 2 роки тому +3

    When your right ear wants some peace and quite but your left ear is looking for business knowledge

  • @bellaendale7174
    @bellaendale7174 2 місяці тому +1

    I'm struck by how much he pauses before answering questions..i should do that more frequently

  • @gerwitz
    @gerwitz 8 років тому +31

    "I'm ignorant so I can't tell you" :-D

    • @john-paulhunt4541
      @john-paulhunt4541 4 роки тому +1

      late 80s? no.

    • @dso-nx3jy
      @dso-nx3jy 3 роки тому +2

      Going to use that next time i cant answer a question at a meeting.

  • @taylorjohnson4943
    @taylorjohnson4943 3 роки тому +2

    My left ear says he is absolutely correct

  • @alsara2k
    @alsara2k 3 роки тому +1

    >given a couple of years, when after Juran is gone.
    Juran died in 2008, 3 years before Jobs..

  • @ADVANCED-QUALITY-TOOLS
    @ADVANCED-QUALITY-TOOLS 9 років тому +8

    I would like to believe that Steve Jobs after the interview about Juran read the book Edwards Deming ...

    • @LeadershipAlliance
      @LeadershipAlliance 5 років тому

      Сергей Григорьев I’m curious what made you say this… My work is based on Dr. Deming’s genius and I know Steve learned about the Deming principles from his Pixar mentor Ed Catmull

  • @lianhphuongcute3889
    @lianhphuongcute3889 11 місяців тому +1

    Có thể pạn cũng giỏi áo thuật mà mình piết. Kamolw Palj!

  • @hussienalsafi1149
    @hussienalsafi1149 Рік тому +1

    🤠🤠🤠😎😎😎😎❤❤❤

  • @AudioDestinyHQ
    @AudioDestinyHQ 3 роки тому +1

    Looks like a video senior portrait

  • @sumonpal4167
    @sumonpal4167 3 роки тому

    Why are you listining with headphone on?🤔

  • @nicestuff8755
    @nicestuff8755 7 років тому +2

    Is that Vlad-TV interviewing steve jobs?

  • @craigwbrown
    @craigwbrown 7 років тому

    no sound?

  • @reenycampbell8618
    @reenycampbell8618 2 роки тому

    I raise a hallelujah for you Steve, what's the answer for people as myself, who have been defiled with tracking devices in the human body to translate their life. I have an extraordinary gift of wisdom. I have even gotten there yet and i'm defamed like someone who has been on a stadium for years. Thank you kindly, Prophet of the Lord Almighty Ps 46.7 Syracuse NY. PS Devices placed in the mouth. Dr. Janice Pliszcziak DDS. Do you remember her from Solvay High? PS American Regent, Senior VP in Yaphank, NY: My Godfather, Martin Joe Tedesco and family are people of noble character.

  • @rolandosotelo3741
    @rolandosotelo3741 8 років тому

    Nice

  • @felixthelmocevallosmorales41
    @felixthelmocevallosmorales41 8 місяців тому

    Steven Paul Jobs
    24 de febrero de 1955
    05 de octubre de 2011
    68 años
    56 años
    12 años

  • @gayatripittala7353
    @gayatripittala7353 Рік тому

    Unity Justice Together no just steve

  • @JohannRosario1
    @JohannRosario1 7 місяців тому +1

    We need an Artificial Intelligence that can predictively emulate Steve Jobs way of thinking, in order to bring him back as an AI-CEO. I hope Apple is making this happen as we speak.

    • @kafkaesqued
      @kafkaesqued 6 місяців тому

      He is right here as Sam Altman

  • @saskiavanhoutert6081
    @saskiavanhoutert6081 Рік тому

    In 1990 I was searching for an education with computertechnology, it became the Graphic Lyceum at Eindhoven now called the Eindhovense School, cybernetica has been practiced at that time especially with APPLE computers and also MS-DOS computers. I do not practice 'cyber-crime', neither does STEVE JOBS.