I remember one time Steve Jobs broke into my house and shot my dog. He told me it was my fault because I wasn't paying attention. It was amazing experience, I learned so much.
Not really he was a capitalist exploitation artist of talent. Probably he started out good but was corrupted by the system. Our computer technology would be more advanced, safe, and useful than it is today without such grifters if we had continued more open source nonprivatized development and rewarded more innovative and ethical competition.
A lot of the most smart, innovative, creative, artistic, etc people often deal with the most mental illness. That’s why there’s a fine line between a genius and a mad man.
Nah he just wanted to push people to see if they were strong mentally. He could tell by how people reacted to his questions if they were tough or weak minded
Yep fuck all these ceo that are seen has hero, finding a quality human being in life is actually way more impressive then this piece of garbage who thinks creating technology is more important then being a decent human being.
@@gabrielonibudo5710 i had a compagny of 3 employee that was doing well for 2 years and i threw it all away,gotta listen to your inner feeling and throw all that bullshit away society is deeply sick from the ego and their desire of status since we are not educated the right way since we were young,we are told to please people to be good little puppet of the system and thats how people end up in these position they craved what they've lacked in their education wich is being loved for what they are, not gonna lie my dad was rich but he was never there for me id rather have had a poor dad that would have been there.
He was an enormous prick for most of his life, and treated everyone who was truly responsible for Apple's success like complete dog shit. This guy gets multiple books and movies made about his life, and folks like Woz tread water in comparative obscurity. He was a salesman who created a brand, and rode on the backs of people magnitudes of order more visionary and humane to obscene levels wealth and renown.
El Mission No they didn’t. The slaves were weak and the stones were very heavy. The pyramids were built by strong, “free” people that wanted to build them to please the pharaoh.
what I got from this video is the word genius gets thrown around so easily these days and some ppl like to get whipped, dominated and manipulated by sociopaths.
Or you are one of those people that thinks they know everything yet talks down on a man who’s legacy is everywhere around you. What have you done to better humanity versus him? You don’t even have a pot to piss in on the subject. The only idiot here is you.
Jobs was a genius in that he figured out how to manipulate people into creating his vision for him. Intellectually, Steve was something more of a dunce. He couldn't code, design, engineer, or even explain how his own products worked. He worked closely with marketing teams because manipulation is all about image. He commanded nerds smarter than himself by exploiting their weak social skills, basically forcing them to work until they made exactly what he wanted. Also holding things like money and personal relationships over them, that kind of stuff isn't easy for the average person to do. Those sociopathic traits are common among CEOs, but what makes Jobs special is that he also used that same manipulation on investors and his customer base. That is why Apple had so much capital to start with and the same reason why it has such a cult-like fanboy following. He could negotiate deals and partnerships by leveraging Apple's status as a symbol to make it more present in people's lives. People don't like to get whipped, they're just too weak to give up that kind of money and opportunity to stand up for themselves.
@@river-t4y believe me, it's not just Job. Actually Job is weaker compared to other famous people. I'm pretty sure Warrent Buffett is as scary as Jobs or even more. Also recently there's an article about Bill Gates confirming he was kinda a prick, was extremely hard on his employees early on at Microsoft. First it's about survival for startups. But then if the startup makes it big they want to keep that competitive edge that's why the CEOs always have to push people harder. And the fastest way is that. Scaring tactics. Same as the military.
fun fact, my first job as a dev my boss had Steve Jobs personality, it was stressing af to work for him but i had to suffer for a year to gain experience, years later i bumped into him and he told me he was testing me if i had what it takes to become a great dev, funny thing is i learned so much in a year at his company
When the Steve Jobs bio came out, full of his scary, abusive techniques like this one, I told a friend who was a shrink here in Silicon Valley that he ought to read it. I started to tell him an anecdote like Andy's here and my friend burst out, angrily, "I don't want to hear it! I've heard ALL about Jobs. He kept every shrink in Silicon Valley employed for years!"
@@myroseaccount - yeah exactly. They read about Jobs doing it and think "Oh well if it worked for him it'll work for me also" but they aren't Steve and don't have even a fraction of his street cred.
@Anon El People do that shit all the time. Praising people who are arrogant pieces of shit based on their merit. Jobs was a genius no doubt, and without his ruthless behaviour the company probably wouldn't been as succesful. Personally I wouldn't stand a days work for that kind of a boss, some people seem to handle it well and actually perform better though.
@Anon El Agreed, apparently to create the iMac, iPod, iPad, iPhone and iWatch, or to achieve anything of value in life, you need to act like an asshole and treat people like shit? And then we ask where did all the FUNDAMENTAL technology that is needed to create those products come from, how was it created and who paid for it? When you understand then you understand why those jerks in Silicon Valley are total self serving assholes
The problem is not that Steve Jobs was a sociopath (he was). The problem is that people (like in this video) keep referring to sociopaths like him as “genius” and keep sidestepping the fact that he didn’t actually create anything. Real geniuses like Wozniak and many others are the ones we owe good things to. I’ve been an Apple developer for over 14 years, owe my living to the company’s success and products, can acknowledge Steve’s vision for simplicity and attention to detail, but no more that that. We should start idolizing more the people who really create and maintain our technologies and infrastructure, and less the ego tripping execs.
He didn't create anything? His vision for simplicity & detail is literally what made the company what it has become. If it wasn't for that, there literally would be no Apple, no matter how many computers Woz built. There are many, many Woz's in the world, tons of them who are on the Linux side, with thier Raspberry Pi' stuff and Operating systems, and no one knows who they are & probably never will. There was only 1 Steve Jobs.
Well it depends on how you look at this. Woz without Jobs would probably have never made anything remotely as successful as Apple. Jobs without Woz created Pixar and NEXT. That should tell you enough as to who is responsible for Apple's success.
@2wheelmind "Steve Jobs introducing the IPhone at Mac World." That should really be enough said, but I'll elaborate. Not only was he one of the greatest presenters of all time, his drive for excellence is what put Apple at the top of the industry (That's why your paychecks were so nice). Inventors have come and gone with products nobody ever heard of, Steve Jobs was a light tower for his products. When Apple dropped something new, the world stopped what they were doing and watched. Steve Jobs dies, Apple is now irrelevant.
Exactly. It’s a power move, he had a leverage & was a complete dick but it worked because people respected the leverage and feared the powerhouse in front of it
Make sure you do not tell us who the interviewee is. Andy Miller, founder of Quattro Wireless. (Had to Google this myself as if never heard of him, either).
@@ΜαριαΧανιαλακης You're the one asking the question. The answer is right in front of you but you don't understand and never will. We're done here. You're dismissed.
I'm fascinated (not necessarily in a good way) by Steve Jobs and the likes of him who take on so much voluntary unneeded stress in life for 1. "Success" 2. Money and 3. Power. But I am more-so fascinated by those who look at people like that as virtuous men or even "good" and then sacrifice their own happiness for a pat on the back by said "type" of person. But the range of the human mind and perceptions is the most fascinating to me. To me, this whole type of lifestyle sounds like utter voluntary HELL.
@@24sumo it's not necessary to have the stress and work style that jobs did to achieve technological advancement, the only time you could argue it's necessary is if you want to achieve such things before your competitors, which is where the greed and lust for power would come in. to say this work style is necessary to avoid living like a caveman is a fallacy.
@@ihazdaforks I don't think they are praising him, I just think they don't hate him for it since he had cancer stress at the time. Though I wouldn't doubt it if Steve jobs was an asshole before cancer.
Because you simply don’t get it. Yeah you could look at it that way. Sure, he sounds absolutely frightening, however did you totally miss everything said here? This is Apple, seems to me this man was almost supernatural who brought the best out in people. As someone who served, I’m sure I seen past all the screaming and tyranny in a lot of my great leaders.. if they didn’t see anything in you, trust me.. they wouldn’t say a damn word too you. Steve gave his people just enough.. You heard him say EVERYONE wanted to please him. Meaning , everyone in that environment was beyond great. I’m sure if you were in that environment it would either inspire greatness from you, from yourself. Or you’d either fail out and be fired! Nothing personal
@@ccvjd3909 lol no I wouldn’t go that far... No one‘s implying you simply take someone’s shit and swallow it, lay on your back and go to sleep on it 🤣 come on... 🙄let’s be fr here, we’re talking about the late Steve Jobs here. All I’m saying is EVERYONE that has EVER worked near, for, or had any association with Apple has either went on to form and become something great, or they still work there and are certainly well off... you either work for someone out here or you start your own. You don’t have to kiss ass or take shit, but you also know and recognize when you’re apart of something great Ccv jd. maybe you see it as beta but wether I’m in the tech industry or film industry, when you’re working for someone of that caliber, trust at that level in the game the stakes are extremely high. You keep you’re mouth shut and do whatever the hell they ask. Period! And if you’re gonna open you’re mouth better make damn sure you know what you’re talking about before removing all doubt by everyone in the room 😂
Lol. All these commentors judging him based on what they hear. Read his biography. Catch up on old articles of him. He was an ass. He was abandoned by his original parents, and he abandoned his own daughter until her later years. He treated his employees like shit as a means of conditioning. He knew he was an ass. He owned up to being an ass because he thought he was destined to be great and he proclaimed he was going to die young. He was a man filled with ambition and that meant he was going to get what he wanted. He took Xerox screen and improved on it. He did help revolutionize our commercials, phones, and even computers. He was also one of the co-founders of Pixar too so you could say he helped revolutionize animation. But to say he wasn't an asshole and to blame it on his cancer is balogne. Read his biography. Read up on how he viewed himself.
"He stole Xerox touch screen technology." No, NOT correct. Number 1 Xerox had no idea about what they had and they didn't have a use for it. PLUS Apple did pay them - look it up. Apple did pay them. From the Jobs biography and many other locations " Xerox granted Apple engineers three days of access to the PARC facilities in return for the option to buy 100,000 shares of Apple at the pre-IPO price of $10 a share." I seem to recall that Xerox sold the shares in the not too distant future after getting them.
Enslaved is the word you are looking for. fuck Apple and Fuck Steve Jobs, I would walk out of there the second he started playing stupid games. I hate arrogant people that think they are better than others
@@justinmckenzie7328 I have. obviously we would have computers duuh but to pretend like jobs contributed so little to the state of current technology is so stupid, if you truly do your research you would understand how impactful he has been to not just singularly phones or computers etc but society in general. apple because of steve jobs has diffused a different ideology into society in loads of ways including technology and business. Steve Wozniak is integral for the initial brilliant hardware however if you ever get into business or anything valuable in life you soon realise that ideas and prototypes are only step1 and massive skill and talent is in execution. Look at any movie ever made. If you tell the plot to a friend you would think its shit but the execution of the movie is the brilliance. Don't reply to this.
@I dunno But world wasnt built by self righteous morons. You need a driven psychopath every once in a while just need to make sure that they are not too crazy.
Just to clarify for those who are still unsure: Steve was a guy who did great things; he was NOT a great man. Far from it, and after dealing with it for a while, objective people would realize that he did NOT have to behave the way he did to get the results he got. Great at his job, but deeply flawed to his detriment.
@@shapursasan9019 I guess that's a fair knock... I'm just someone who met with him multiple times over a ten year span (as both a large Apple customer and an Apple employee), knew many, many people that interacted with him regularly, attended numerous employee-only presentations by him, and worked at Apple for almost six of those years. During all of those events, I saw what I believe to be the two sides of him that I mentioned in my original comment. Acknowledge or dismiss as you see fit.
Steve Jobs was a guy who ordered other guys to do great things. Let’s stop pretending he was a genius, yes he was a good businessman and probably had great creativity but he didn’t invent anything. He told other people what to invent. And he should’ve thanked his ass he had people capable of doing it under him instead of treating them like shits.
What's frightening isn't Steve's personality. It's all the enablers who let him be that way, and all his followers wearing turtle neck shirts, buying his books like Gospel and behaving like him thinking it will yield the same magic. That's more frightening than a Japanese horror movie.
I'd have fucking smacked once in the face if he ever tried any of his scary shit with me. Then he'd never try that bullshit with anyone ever again. He chose wimps that he knew wouldn't stand up to him.
Steve Jobs used to make me stand in a freezing server room because he said it would build resilience. I lost two toes to frostbite, but now I can troubleshoot hardware just by listening to my bones creak. So inspiring!
He sounds like the toughest boss in the world. Although, I'm sure it's why and how he got the most out of people. I'm not sure I'd last long there though.
Interesting that even with the opening methodology of asking a question like "You're close with your Dad?" and then viewing anyone who answered quickly as a "Bozo" who would fill air for nothing is just straight up sociopathic and in a way stupid beyond belief. -Sociopathic for the fact that the 9/10 times we are asked such a question it signals to us (non raging sociopaths) 'this person is willing to be open and potentially real maybe even vulnerable with me, I should engage my empathy, really listen and respond authentically' . -Stupid for it's arrogance and lack of perspective/emotional awareness to judge that such a person's natural response to connect and install a base level of understanding and showing of themselves beyond the job title, is innately a waste of time. A man who achieved much but in many ways so little. Wozniak is far more the man I'd like to work with. Yes, ultimately battles establish empires, give cause to sharpen spears and shore up walls, but diplomacy, understanding and empathy are absolutely imperative to said Empire's root growth and continuation. A leader of of a company and more importantly a man who doesn't see that and intimately understand that let alone neglect to interact with that, is not a man and certainly not a leader.
People need to realise that steve jobs wasnt just a sociopath, he was the sociopath who had to CONTROL ALL THE OTHER SOCIOPATHS. Do you understand what kind of monster it takes to keep those power hungry animals in check? to stop them from absolutely tearing you to pieces at any opening? you have to have unparalleled respect, you have to KNOW your advantages you have over others and fully utilise them to the EXACT degree you have to and not a tiny bit more. Your reputation, but also your ACTIONS are ridiculously under pressure at all times, your responsibilities are absolutely limitless, so yes, steve jobs was a sociopath, but thats because literally everyone in the game is RUTHLESS, look at anyone in a position of power/wealth (same thing), you will find that they are absolutely fucking ruthless, doesnt matter if they show it publically, look hard enough and you will see an animal.
Yeah, its the same reason why many women CEOs are worse than the male ones. Imagine how cold and conniving you need to be to make it as a woman in that cuttthroat, male dominated world. All those people are psychos
Wow I've never thought to say that when dicussing a salary or a raise , "let's negotiate I can't negotiate against myself." Employer's never want to just give you a number they just say "oh is that the lowest salary you would go? Because that's what you've listed as your desired salary." I absolutely hate when they say nope and just throw out a number and refuse to even try to negotiate.
Frank Ragetti I wouldn’t call him a genius so much as he was a visionary, but yeah. Not very surprising he was so rigid and frankly an asshole towards his death.
I like that Mirror concept assuming it's intentional. Helps you focus on the right person at the right time but also allws the other person to peek-a-boo
@@jjeremyhunterr hahahaha...it only took about 27 comments for someone to finally get it. The guy's a #@&%ing #@%hole. Why is everyone so afraid to say it?
@@martimusmaximus8121 Some people don't like to speak ill of the dead. Others admire the "genius" of his business sense. Others won't diss him for fear of their beloved Apple iSomething blowing up.
I'm imagining the part where I hang my star to him and I get rapidly rich. It's amazing. I'm imagining the Bugatti. I love it. The house in the hills is just a bonus.
Andy: i was extremely stressed, he shoved knives down my urethra, my life just became an actual nightmare when i started working for him Also Andy: lmaooo hes such a genius hes the best ily steve xoxo ❤️❤️
01:00 how is one supposed to know you have to hold the gaze and why is this a good way to filter out people?for example, if you don't say anything and just stare it could easily be interpreted as "oh this guy is a bozo, he just froze in panic and isn't capable"
Stunning interview. After reading about Jobs for years, this is the first time I have heard direct interaction with him described and how it felt. Well done.
Please keep the business content coming! As a student who wants to work in the industry, this kind of content is amazingly insightful and super interesting. Keep it coming and Go Huntsman!
Listening to this actually makes me want to never buy an apple product again... our generation has revolted against abuse, sexism, racism etc... and this is acceptable?
@@AllenParkerGarcia Have you looked at Apple products recently? They've stopped innovating. They've brought down 'professional' to the lowest common denominator.
I recall once accidentally placing a second dot on an 'i' on a whiteboard in a pressured 4am stand-up meeting at Apple, and without saying a word, Steve Jobs grabbed me by the hair and dragged me out to the parking lot, threw me into the trunk of his SL55 and drove for several hours. Finally, we stopped and he opened the trunk, and parched, I had to squint in the harsh light but anger was still visibly etched onto his face. The heat was like a crucible and I guessed we were in some sort of desert; probably the Mojave, some 300 miles from Cupertino. Wordlessly he threw me a shovel and motioned me to start digging. I had to dig for an hour or two, drenched in sweat and every muscle screamed with pain in protest. Pausing for the briefest chance of a rest and trying to comprehend what was happening, my reverie was broken when he snatched the shovel off me and violently swung it fracturing my arm; sending me flying onto my back into the deep coffin-sized trench I had just dug. He then filled it in over me whilst mouthing the word 'S-I-M-P-L-I-C-I-T-Y' over and over, and as the dirt finally concealed me and everything faded to black, I was grateful that he taught me that life-changing lesson about not accidentally putting an extra dot on an 'i'.
@@FreakyStyleytobby Yeah, it's hilarious how many people are calling Jobs an asshole and criticizing his methods, when the dude telling the anecdotes was essentially praising Jobs' methodology.
@@Eorzat Doesn't mater that kind of personally. Shouldn't be complemented. His skills were great but you don't have to be like a drill sergeant to achieve what Apple did.
@@comicdude1996 I mean, that's actually debatable. There's a lot of anecdotes where Jobs wanted timelines that people didn't think were possible. Like they'd want 2 months, and he'd say 2 weeks or something. And he ended up being right a lot of times. Also don't forget that Apple almost went brankrupt after they removed Jobs from the company and then specifically pleaded for him to come back. After his return, their profits began to soar, so there's definitely a correlation between his methodology and Apple's success. I really don't see how you could build a company like Apple, Tesla, etc. without demanding the absolute best from your employees at each and every moment.
Their power is our perception of their power. No one has any power that we don't give them. We give them all the power that they have. That includes these politicians, religious leaders, and bankers.
I think he pussied out when Steve renegotiated the deal price. I think he would’ve been respected more if he found a way to firmly stay at the agreed terms. Sometimes these big dogs just like testing people. Imo
$275 million, you likely keep 10% of it being the CEO, and you get hired at a job that pays $5-$10mil/yr in executive compensation. What the hell difference would it make to you to get the extra $50 million when it'd only get you an extra $5 million personally? You'd gain that back in a year at Apple, and you'd gain /25 million dollars/ today. Plus, larger companies have difficult times winning turf wars with Apple. E.G. Epic. Considering his company did mobile ads, that shit's a dime a dozen these days, the man made a very good call. He's right that he didn't belong in the boardroom with Apple, but the man's wise and made a really good decision.
Professional Complainer I totally get what you’re saying but it’s not as if this was an overnight deal. Probably months of research with market researchers and analysts that came up with this figure - and to have Jobs come in at the last minute and take an axe to the AGREED on price? He was just being a bully and maybe rightfully so. Probably thought he could save Apple millions and I probably would’ve done what they both did in their respective positions. Would’ve sold to just get it done with and I would’ve bullied if I was Jobs. But doesn’t change the possibility that it could’ve been him just trying to get a reaction. Play with big dogs and eventually you’re gonna get bit. Just the nature of the game.
@@tiggie_96 too true. the annoying thing is that apple can engage in monopolistic practices by banning people from their phones. this sort of abuse is legal, even if it means reneging on a pre-agreed deal.
Agreed. Had the price been $275-million (or *any* price), Jobs would've demanded a haircut. (The only thing he fed more aggressively than his tumor was his ego.)
I agree. He may have left that meeting with “no deal.” But give Steve Jobs no more than a day of thinking things over and he would have called him up and agreed to the original deal. I think Steve Jobs valued people who weren’t afraid to fight (and fight him specifically) for their dreams.
Steve Jobs changed the world all right. Not sure it was for the better though. The guy was a total narcissist who basically said he regretted the way he lived his life on his death bed.
@William Leonard I think @Tikkun's point remains: that a paradigm shift does not necessarily equate to any thing better. The techno utopia promised group of self congratulatory entrepreneurs, who claimed to better the world but just cashed out on our addictions, does raise the concern as to whether there was anything be admired.
@William Leonard But we communicate within our tribes and within the constraints of four characters, we more divided than ever. I doubt the average joe has more conversations with people from other walks of life/countries etc. What does more opportunty really equate too?
Agree with you except that last statement. I have a feeling you are referring to that email that went viral about Steve Jobs death bed regret. He never said those words. In fact it didn't sound like him at all. And all those those were at his bedside confirmed he never said it. In fact his last words were "Oh wow, Oh wow". Which to me is far more interesting!! ;)
@William Leonard simply not true. The ability to communicate either digitally or the myriad of other ways available to humanity is certainly nothing a single person can take credit for. Even if you limited this discussion to the portable and the digital realm, it would not be true. He is responsible for none of the technology and all of the style. If you want genius and originality, then you look at someone like Nikola Tesla. we toss the word genius around for people like Steve Jobs and Elon Musk. Driven opportunists at best who have contributed nothing of any definitive worth to the culture. And the studies that illuminate this point are coming out all around us.
if these people weren't famous, we'd be wondering if the dude being interviewed is OK and deserves to talk to someone after being abused by steve jobs. but because they are worth thousands of millions of dollars, we're supposed to feel jealous of not being the dude being interviewed.
@@stharding1 i have used both iphone and android phones, i can tell you safely that you dont miss anything with android, more like the other way around, if you know how to root the phone, you can do all kinds of stuff that you cant in ios
How could anyone be excited about working for such a terrible person? I really do not understand the cult of personality that Jobs developed around himself...
"When people see this they gonna say, 'He wasn't really a nice guy, he may have been a tyrant'. Well that's you - because you never really won anything." - Michael Jordan I always remember that and it's so true, in business, sports, life.
All of the technologies Jobs promoted either already existed or would have existed and been sold by other companies. The more I hear about the dude the less impressed I become with him. He had a lot of failed ventures and was never the mastermind behind any technology. He just seems like he was a good social manipulator and marketer, with some egomania and narcissism thrown in, nothing more than that.
Of course Apple didin't outright invent these technologies, but that's not how progress works. That would be like saying Nirvana is an overrated band because power chords allready existed and grunge had been mainstream before Nevermind blew up. It's about presentation, the feel of the product, and knowing what not to do and how to make a product that felt intuitive. Before iPhone, nobody had a phone so streamlined that made using it as inherently addictive as phones are now. And that was in 2007!
Jobs saw potential in unfinished technologies and pushed to make them usable by the masses. He demanded excellence. Success also comes with failure. You cannot be afraid to fail if you want to succeed.
Imagine all the Boston “bozo” employees that just found out in this interview that the reason they were told they weren’t moving to Cupertino wasn’t quite true.
1. Scary - high standards - focus on providing the best for the customer 2. You are a hero or a bozo - Think on your feet and respond to criticism 3. Do you think your parents would be proud of your performance today? 4. Make deadlines tighter - high stress 5. Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - boil everything down to it's essence 6. High Energy 7. Focus - Pay attention 8. Notice life is a path - travel the less travelled path
Great negotiator, great negotiator. Mafia was always great at negotiating like this, guys. "You wouldn't want anything happen to your legs, would you?" :D
Oh man, Steve put a ball gag on me and beat me with knotted paracord and it was the simplest and most user-friendly ball gag. He was all about simplifying so he didn't talk he just beat me without mercy. I learned so much.
Why on earth would anyone want to work with a person like that? There are plenty of amazing opportunities that don't involve working with bullies and sociopaths. Thinking this is regular and normal is real issue in business.
It always baffles me that somehow society is accepting the *most* psychological sick/abusing behaviours if that person has "succcess". That the endresult is more worth then the process and its way.
It was common knowledge even when he was alive that Jobs was an abusive, sociopathic asshole. It led to his success, but the fact that so many people remember him fondly is kinda crazy. The guy was a giant piece of shit in every regard, just a ruthless businessman. It's well documented that he treated his workers like shit, treated his kids like shit, he used people and squeezed whatever he deemed useful out of them before discarding them. It's fine to love Apple products, but this type of person should not be lauded.
Disappointing that even when faced with death, Jobs didn't value peoples' lives more. I can appreciate his accomplishments and vision, he definitely brought Apple back from the ashes...but at what cost...and is the world really better today because of Apple products? I don't think so, it's solved as many problems as it has created.
He stopped valuing other people the day after they stopped valuing his; his own company booted him out originally,, Apple tanked, he created Pixar I think? Then Apple bought Pixar, making Jobs an Apple employee again, where he climbed the ladder to the top, taking control once again bring Apple into a new era of success. I think if I had that happen to me, I would become an absolute asshole to anyone who questioned me as well.
@@digitalconsciousness Thing is that's not what changed him, as he's always been like that from all the interviews I've watched. He was a genius, but simply not a great person. He would have made a great dictator in some parts of the world. Again, I have great respect for his accomplishments, very little for how he achieved them.
Speedytrip Just by reading your comment I wouldn’t judge you to be a “great person” either. Neither of us have even met him or gained the life experience to put ourselves in his shoes, so whatever you’re trying to articulate is pretty baseless.
I lost them $275million because they closed their ad service (iads) just a few years later. He only wanted beautiful brand ads from the likes of nike, coca cola etc, but the money in mobile advertising is from all the crappy ads
Steve wants everyone to be a tough and good negotiator, and then makes Andy take a $50MM haircut. Working with Steve sounds like pure hell. I think I would have walked out at that point.
In 25 years we will hear about peoples experiences with Elon Musk and im sure the contrast with Steve Jobs will be night and day. Arguably, Elon has changed the world an order of magnitude more...
fun fact jobs actually eats the hearts of unborn fetuses AFTER performing the abortion. He needed to do so to stay alive as long as he did. Truly horrifying.
Steve Jobs took my baby out of my hands, kicked it off a bridge and told me to start again. It was so inspiring.
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I’m not sure why your comment hit me like it did but it’s a terrific take on the situation.
Hahahahhaa
This guys name is Andy Miller, since you didn't put that anywhere.
Yeah wtf? This guy has done more in his life than a UA-cam guy, show him a bit of respect and say who you are talking to.
@@UPHOTO75 "DONT FORGET TO LEAVE a LIKE BEFORE YOU LEAVE" lmaoooooo
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Aaron Underwood this is just a clip on the second channel from the full podcast lol
Thank you was actually looking for his name.
I remember one time Steve Jobs broke into my house and shot my dog. He told me it was my fault because I wasn't paying attention. It was amazing experience, I learned so much.
HAHAHAHAH
That dog is now a millionaire.
Now read that again.
good! he said have that software ready in 4 weeks! not 4 weeks and an hour and a half!
Steven Jobs used to shove pencils up my urethra. I learned so much from him. Such a genius.
good for you
He used to tickle my prostate. Sounds like we had quite different experiences.
I think that metaphor would be shove down
Manipulative Narcissistic asshole
sums up this video lmao
Steve Jobs used to eat my lunch, I learnt about diet. He is a Genius.
When he ate your lunch, was he sitting on his Genius Stool at the Genius Bar?
@@Splqshy Berating staff to hold his beer?
Lolz. Steve Jobs used to beat me. I learned about resistance training.
He died before his time.
Not really he was a capitalist exploitation artist of talent. Probably he started out good but was corrupted by the system. Our computer technology would be more advanced, safe, and useful than it is today without such grifters if we had continued more open source nonprivatized development and rewarded more innovative and ethical competition.
The part where he asked questions about his personal life to use as ammo to attack him - that sounds like personality disorder level behavior
And it is!
A lot of the most smart, innovative, creative, artistic, etc people often deal with the most mental illness. That’s why there’s a fine line between a genius and a mad man.
He's just 10 steps ahead of you my boy.
Nah he just wanted to push people to see if they were strong mentally. He could tell by how people reacted to his questions if they were tough or weak minded
@@timhorton7420 He is hiring for a tech company, not the army, you don't need to be that mentally strong to write code.
Steve Jobs asked me when my parents died. Then he laughed and said they probably hated me anyway. So inspiring.
I amazed how people are OK with being bullied if they think it's good for their advancement in their careers.
Yep fuck all these ceo that are seen has hero, finding a quality human being in life is actually way more impressive then this piece of garbage who thinks creating technology is more important then being a decent human being.
your life will never amount to anything, you will never create anything rememberable. and that’s because of this attitude
Myfruitybeats paradis you sound like a loser :(
@@gabrielonibudo5710 i had a compagny of 3 employee that was doing well for 2 years and i threw it all away,gotta listen to your inner feeling and throw all that bullshit away society is deeply sick from the ego and their desire of status since we are not educated the right way since we were young,we are told to please people to be good little puppet of the system and thats how people end up in these position they craved what they've lacked in their education wich is being loved for what they are, not gonna lie my dad was rich but he was never there for me id rather have had a poor dad that would have been there.
Prometheus unbound Good luck...
“Steve Jobs used to fart with closed windows all the time. It was amazing, i learnt a bunch about Gastroenterology.”
Even pooped me diahrea a couple times....it was an awesome experience! Jsmh weirdAF!
I genuinely laughed. Psychopaths would literally do that and their сlоwn followers would be happy with it
He said it was his way of paying it forward for what Bill Gates did to him...
He ate broccoli just to make it more pungent 😂
Steve Jobs sounds like an absolute sociopath.
keep in mind he was about to die during this..
Oh he was. A lot of successful leaders are.
It takes a sociopath to create a conglomerate
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He was an enormous prick for most of his life, and treated everyone who was truly responsible for Apple's success like complete dog shit. This guy gets multiple books and movies made about his life, and folks like Woz tread water in comparative obscurity. He was a salesman who created a brand, and rode on the backs of people magnitudes of order more visionary and humane to obscene levels wealth and renown.
They're gushing over Jobs and calling him a genius seconds after stories of him being an absolute prick. Bizarre...
You enjoy being a weak human being?
Geniuses are pricks ^^
@@LandonWalsh wow what a competent business person incredible
@@LandonWalsh If Steve Jobs is your impression of a strong human, I honestly feel bad for you.
@@LandonWalsh You are a weak human, you look like a weak speck of a human being. You wouldn't stand a chance.
" yea he would whip us and tell us we had a year to finish the pyramids and by golly we did. he was an amazing person"
If he were alive 3000 years ago ... He was a malignant narcissist who was good at image.
Slaves didnt build the pyramids
@@montgomerysanchez5867 indentured servants to the government or something like that. So pretty close to slaves.
@@montgomerysanchez5867 You don't know history. Of course they did.
El Mission No they didn’t. The slaves were weak and the stones were very heavy. The pyramids were built by strong, “free” people that wanted to build them to please the pharaoh.
what I got from this video is the word genius gets thrown around so easily these days and some ppl like to get whipped, dominated and manipulated by sociopaths.
Or you are one of those people that thinks they know everything yet talks down on a man who’s legacy is everywhere around you. What have you done to better humanity versus him? You don’t even have a pot to piss in on the subject. The only idiot here is you.
@@dspirea acting like a prick does not make you a genius, and being a genius does not necessarily make you act like one. stop being a fanboy
@@dspirea plus steve was probably one of the worst things to happen to the world. yes he changed it, but not in a good way
Jobs was a genius in that he figured out how to manipulate people into creating his vision for him. Intellectually, Steve was something more of a dunce. He couldn't code, design, engineer, or even explain how his own products worked. He worked closely with marketing teams because manipulation is all about image. He commanded nerds smarter than himself by exploiting their weak social skills, basically forcing them to work until they made exactly what he wanted. Also holding things like money and personal relationships over them, that kind of stuff isn't easy for the average person to do. Those sociopathic traits are common among CEOs, but what makes Jobs special is that he also used that same manipulation on investors and his customer base. That is why Apple had so much capital to start with and the same reason why it has such a cult-like fanboy following. He could negotiate deals and partnerships by leveraging Apple's status as a symbol to make it more present in people's lives. People don't like to get whipped, they're just too weak to give up that kind of money and opportunity to stand up for themselves.
@@river-t4y believe me, it's not just Job. Actually Job is weaker compared to other famous people. I'm pretty sure Warrent Buffett is as scary as Jobs or even more. Also recently there's an article about Bill Gates confirming he was kinda a prick, was extremely hard on his employees early on at Microsoft.
First it's about survival for startups. But then if the startup makes it big they want to keep that competitive edge that's why the CEOs always have to push people harder. And the fastest way is that. Scaring tactics. Same as the military.
He sounds like the computer programming version of JK Simmons' character from 'whiplash'
Yeah just a thing, he didn't knew how to code
He sounds like a whiny bitch who has a moment to finally unload his shit he never stood up for or tried to change on a dead powerful guy
jobs coulnt code, it was Steve Wozniak the one who did all the coding and hardware stuff
Producción En Línea this is a lie, when Jobs was young he was a brilliant coder. He stopped coding after becoming CEO
That’s exactly it
Steve Jobs sounds like a mentor and boss absolutely no one should have. I feel sorry for those who idolize this toxic personality cult.
These two dorks really prop him up to be a god
@@MathasarSalazar2 But I see this a lot in the tech-managerial community and sales.
Amen! Everything that is wrong with business starts and ends here.
He had great ideas but shouldn’t manage people.
He had many great idea, thats why people idolize him
You dont need to be abused and belittled to learn and grow, he was smart but had sociopathic tendencies.
fun fact, my first job as a dev my boss had Steve Jobs personality, it was stressing af to work for him but i had to suffer for a year to gain experience, years later i bumped into him and he told me he was testing me if i had what it takes to become a great dev, funny thing is i learned so much in a year at his company
@@mentoriii3475 ik its tough in the short term, but so worth it in the long run.
Totally agree but some lessons have to be learned in this fashion 😢😢😢
@@mentoriii3475 I left a toxic boss it wasn't an enjoyable culture. Majority are not financially luck and endure the abuse.
"sociopathic tendencies" is almost every businessman and politician, just FYI.
When the Steve Jobs bio came out, full of his scary, abusive techniques like this one, I told a friend who was a shrink here in Silicon Valley that he ought to read it. I started to tell him an anecdote like Andy's here and my friend burst out, angrily, "I don't want to hear it! I've heard ALL about Jobs. He kept every shrink in Silicon Valley employed for years!"
A stinking piece of shit. And I know lots of other managers act like they're Jobs. I have no fucking tolerance for that kind of crap.
@@myroseaccount - yeah exactly. They read about Jobs doing it and think "Oh well if it worked for him it'll work for me also" but they aren't Steve and don't have even a fraction of his street cred.
@@jontnoneya3404 Heres a mindblowing perspective: Steve Jobs is a piece of shit, end of story
@Anon El People do that shit all the time. Praising people who are arrogant pieces of shit based on their merit. Jobs was a genius no doubt, and without his ruthless behaviour the company probably wouldn't been as succesful. Personally I wouldn't stand a days work for that kind of a boss, some people seem to handle it well and actually perform better though.
@Anon El Agreed, apparently to create the iMac, iPod, iPad, iPhone and iWatch, or to achieve anything of value in life, you need to act like an asshole and treat people like shit?
And then we ask where did all the FUNDAMENTAL technology that is needed to create those products come from, how was it created and who paid for it? When you understand then you understand why those jerks in Silicon Valley are total self serving assholes
You should put the guys name at least in description.
9:55 Andy.
Andy Miller
This is true. I was looking for it down there and was surprised it wasn't there
@@jesse_sweed shit is Disrespectful
@@logansneed2882 yes... I hope it was just an oversight and will be fixed
The problem is not that Steve Jobs was a sociopath (he was). The problem is that people (like in this video) keep referring to sociopaths like him as “genius” and keep sidestepping the fact that he didn’t actually create anything.
Real geniuses like Wozniak and many others are the ones we owe good things to.
I’ve been an Apple developer for over 14 years, owe my living to the company’s success and products, can acknowledge Steve’s vision for simplicity and attention to detail, but no more that that.
We should start idolizing more the people who really create and maintain our technologies and infrastructure, and less the ego tripping execs.
He didn't create anything?
His vision for simplicity & detail is literally what made the company what it has become.
If it wasn't for that, there literally would be no Apple, no matter how many computers Woz built.
There are many, many Woz's in the world, tons of them who are on the Linux side, with thier Raspberry Pi' stuff and Operating systems, and no one knows who they are & probably never will.
There was only 1 Steve Jobs.
Yea bro you’re tripping
Well it depends on how you look at this. Woz without Jobs would probably have never made anything remotely as successful as Apple. Jobs without Woz created Pixar and NEXT. That should tell you enough as to who is responsible for Apple's success.
@@bahroum69 true. I agree with you.
@2wheelmind "Steve Jobs introducing the IPhone at Mac World."
That should really be enough said, but I'll elaborate. Not only was he one of the greatest presenters of all time, his drive for excellence is what put Apple at the top of the industry (That's why your paychecks were so nice). Inventors have come and gone with products nobody ever heard of, Steve Jobs was a light tower for his products. When Apple dropped something new, the world stopped what they were doing and watched.
Steve Jobs dies, Apple is now irrelevant.
Steve Jobs had a real knack for attracting relatively intelligent, but very weak willed people.
Ooooh. Too true.
He died before his time.
You really think people who work for Steve Jobs were weak willed? lol no dude.
he would have despised me from day one. i wouldnt put up with his behavior
Exactly. It’s a power move, he had a leverage & was a complete dick but it worked because people respected the leverage and feared the powerhouse in front of it
Make sure you do not tell us who the interviewee is. Andy Miller, founder of Quattro Wireless. (Had to Google this myself as if never heard of him, either).
Thanks man
Make sure you are critical of content that is being provided to you for free. And make sure you offer nothing yourself. That woudl be helpful.
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In fact, he put "full podcast" link, so you just click on the link and there is the name :D But still he should have mention the name
Well now you've ruined it... :)
Job's ego killed him. He thought he knew more than his oncologists.
An egomaniacs version of suicide.
What does his cancer have to do with this??? Your soooooo off topic.
@@ΜαριαΧανιαλακης If you don't get it nobody can explain it to you.
@@AlanSmitheeman your the one not getting it.
@@ΜαριαΧανιαλακης You're the one asking the question. The answer is right in front of you but you don't understand and never will. We're done here. You're dismissed.
I'm fascinated (not necessarily in a good way) by Steve Jobs and the likes of him who take on so much voluntary unneeded stress in life for 1. "Success" 2. Money and 3. Power. But I am more-so fascinated by those who look at people like that as virtuous men or even "good" and then sacrifice their own happiness for a pat on the back by said "type" of person. But the range of the human mind and perceptions is the most fascinating to me. To me, this whole type of lifestyle sounds like utter voluntary HELL.
exactly
If there were more people like you in the world. We would still be living in caves sat around a fire.
Different people have different desires.
24sumo HahHahaha (breath) Hahahahhaahha. Did you even read my comment slowly?
@@mjfraser04 err yes, you dont understand why people try and achieve things. Because it’s stressful. Now read my comment again
@@24sumo it's not necessary to have the stress and work style that jobs did to achieve technological advancement, the only time you could argue it's necessary is if you want to achieve such things before your competitors, which is where the greed and lust for power would come in. to say this work style is necessary to avoid living like a caveman is a fallacy.
“He would whip it out and everyone wanted to please him” sorry for being a child but I died laughing
😂😂
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Mаsоchism is real
Freudian slip if I’ve ever seen one
He really sounds like the worst cliche boss and person ever
I know right and they're praising Steve for it...like what? Shit like that shouldn't be praised.
@@ihazdaforks I don't think they are praising him, I just think they don't hate him for it since he had cancer stress at the time. Though I wouldn't doubt it if Steve jobs was an asshole before cancer.
Because you simply don’t get it. Yeah you could look at it that way. Sure, he sounds absolutely frightening, however did you totally miss everything said here? This is Apple, seems to me this man was almost supernatural who brought the best out in people. As someone who served, I’m sure I seen past all the screaming and tyranny in a lot of my great leaders.. if they didn’t see anything in you, trust me.. they wouldn’t say a damn word too you. Steve gave his people just enough.. You heard him say EVERYONE wanted to please him. Meaning , everyone in that environment was beyond great. I’m sure if you were in that environment it would either inspire greatness from you, from yourself. Or you’d either fail out and be fired! Nothing personal
@@Ben-pd2bxLuis is spoken like a true beta .
@@ccvjd3909 lol no I wouldn’t go that far... No one‘s implying you simply take someone’s shit and swallow it, lay on your back and go to sleep on it 🤣 come on... 🙄let’s be fr here, we’re talking about the late Steve Jobs here. All I’m saying is EVERYONE that has EVER worked near, for, or had any association with Apple has either went on to form and become something great, or they still work there and are certainly well off... you either work for someone out here or you start your own. You don’t have to kiss ass or take shit, but you also know and recognize when you’re apart of something great Ccv jd. maybe you see it as beta but wether I’m in the tech industry or film industry, when you’re working for someone of that caliber, trust at that level in the game the stakes are extremely high. You keep you’re mouth shut and do whatever the hell they ask. Period! And if you’re gonna open you’re mouth better make damn sure you know what you’re talking about before removing all doubt by everyone in the room 😂
people that put up with abusive crap from their bosses deserve everything they get
Bingo!!
Best comment
Best fucking comment
Lol. All these commentors judging him based on what they hear. Read his biography. Catch up on old articles of him. He was an ass. He was abandoned by his original parents, and he abandoned his own daughter until her later years. He treated his employees like shit as a means of conditioning. He knew he was an ass. He owned up to being an ass because he thought he was destined to be great and he proclaimed he was going to die young. He was a man filled with ambition and that meant he was going to get what he wanted. He took Xerox screen and improved on it. He did help revolutionize our commercials, phones, and even computers. He was also one of the co-founders of Pixar too so you could say he helped revolutionize animation. But to say he wasn't an asshole and to blame it on his cancer is balogne. Read his biography. Read up on how he viewed himself.
"He stole Xerox touch screen technology." No, NOT correct. Number 1 Xerox had no idea about what they had and they didn't have a use for it. PLUS Apple did pay them - look it up. Apple did pay them. From the Jobs biography and many other locations " Xerox granted Apple engineers three days of access to the PARC facilities in return for the option to buy 100,000 shares of Apple at the pre-IPO price of $10 a share." I seem to recall that Xerox sold the shares in the not too distant future after getting them.
@@juanm2188 reworded - you are correct.
You will make a nice punch bag for him. Well you would have I should say.
Yea people either think he's just an asshole or a revolutionary guy. He's both.
well said. steve was extremely self aware - all these bozo's talking crap dont understand steve knew who he was. he was simple yet complex.
These guys sound like they like being dominated
Two sycophants remembering a psychopath.
Daddy issues
Enslaved is the word you are looking for. fuck Apple and Fuck Steve Jobs, I would walk out of there the second he started playing stupid games. I hate arrogant people that think they are better than others
@@danielgreen5803 You would not walk out of there if you were going to get 300 million dollars
“I wish somebody did that to me...”
Imagine if Steve Jobs never met Steve Wozniak. We never would have discovered how much of a genius sociopath he was.
imagine if steve Wozniak never met steve jobs. You would be making this comment through a string and cup
@@amirhussain3028 Have you done any research on this topic at all? Your statement doesn't make sense for a thousand different reasons.
@@justinmckenzie7328 I have. obviously we would have computers duuh but to pretend like jobs contributed so little to the state of current technology is so stupid, if you truly do your research you would understand how impactful he has been to not just singularly phones or computers etc but society in general. apple because of steve jobs has diffused a different ideology into society in loads of ways including technology and business. Steve Wozniak is integral for the initial brilliant hardware however if you ever get into business or anything valuable in life you soon realise that ideas and prototypes are only step1 and massive skill and talent is in execution. Look at any movie ever made. If you tell the plot to a friend you would think its shit but the execution of the movie is the brilliance. Don't reply to this.
@@amirhussain3028 did you run to show your boss at apple this comment?
@@gregstewart5081 LOL
This man offers living proof that Evil requires enablers.
He died before his time.
@@balvindersingh4864 Indeed he did.
most of the time, yeah.
@I dunno But world wasnt built by self righteous morons. You need a driven psychopath every once in a while just need to make sure that they are not too crazy.
@ryan smith what do you mean revolution? Why is that a good thing? Does being successful automatically make you beneficial to society?
Wow! He's describing Jobs when he was sick... imagine how he was when he was healthy and strong...oy!
It was because he was sick. He had no time to waste.
His health had nothing to do with it. He had already played that game 500 times. His vision, philosophy, and habits were all set.
@@kab00mKap0w which is backed up by the fact that the other execs briefed him before the meeting about the antics Jobs was going to pull.
Just as psychopathic.
@@kab00mKap0w in my view, Steve Jobs is human.
Just to clarify for those who are still unsure: Steve was a guy who did great things; he was NOT a great man. Far from it, and after dealing with it for a while, objective people would realize that he did NOT have to behave the way he did to get the results he got. Great at his job, but deeply flawed to his detriment.
Facts. Many great leaders may not be considered “great men” but did great things.
Who are you to "clarify" anything?
@@shapursasan9019 I guess that's a fair knock... I'm just someone who met with him multiple times over a ten year span (as both a large Apple customer and an Apple employee), knew many, many people that interacted with him regularly, attended numerous employee-only presentations by him, and worked at Apple for almost six of those years. During all of those events, I saw what I believe to be the two sides of him that I mentioned in my original comment. Acknowledge or dismiss as you see fit.
Flawed to his detriment?
Steve Jobs was a guy who ordered other guys to do great things. Let’s stop pretending he was a genius, yes he was a good businessman and probably had great creativity but he didn’t invent anything.
He told other people what to invent.
And he should’ve thanked his ass he had people capable of doing it under him instead of treating them like shits.
What's frightening isn't Steve's personality. It's all the enablers who let him be that way, and all his followers wearing turtle neck shirts, buying his books like Gospel and behaving like him thinking it will yield the same magic. That's more frightening than a Japanese horror movie.
I'd have fucking smacked once in the face if he ever tried any of his scary shit with me. Then he'd never try that bullshit with anyone ever again. He chose wimps that he knew wouldn't stand up to him.
they were drones who liked being in a cult
Steve Jobs used to make me stand in a freezing server room because he said it would build resilience. I lost two toes to frostbite, but now I can troubleshoot hardware just by listening to my bones creak. So inspiring!
He sounds like the toughest boss in the world. Although, I'm sure it's why and how he got the most out of people. I'm not sure I'd last long there though.
SJ was a psychopathic asshat, but then again most CEO's in the S&P500 are either sociopaths or psychopaths.
Interesting that even with the opening methodology of asking a question like "You're close with your Dad?" and then viewing anyone who answered quickly as a "Bozo" who would fill air for nothing is just straight up sociopathic and in a way stupid beyond belief.
-Sociopathic for the fact that the 9/10 times we are asked such a question it signals to us (non raging sociopaths) 'this person is willing to be open and potentially real maybe even vulnerable with me, I should engage my empathy, really listen and respond authentically' .
-Stupid for it's arrogance and lack of perspective/emotional awareness to judge that such a person's natural response to connect and install a base level of understanding and showing of themselves beyond the job title, is innately a waste of time.
A man who achieved much but in many ways so little. Wozniak is far more the man I'd like to work with. Yes, ultimately battles establish empires, give cause to sharpen spears and shore up walls, but diplomacy, understanding and empathy are absolutely imperative to said Empire's root growth and continuation. A leader of of a company and more importantly a man who doesn't see that and intimately understand that let alone neglect to interact with that, is not a man and certainly not a leader.
Amen!
Well said
People need to realise that steve jobs wasnt just a sociopath, he was the sociopath who had to CONTROL ALL THE OTHER SOCIOPATHS.
Do you understand what kind of monster it takes to keep those power hungry animals in check? to stop them from absolutely tearing you to pieces at any opening? you have to have unparalleled respect, you have to KNOW your advantages you have over others and fully utilise them to the EXACT degree you have to and not a tiny bit more. Your reputation, but also your ACTIONS are ridiculously under pressure at all times, your responsibilities are absolutely limitless, so yes, steve jobs was a sociopath, but thats because literally everyone in the game is RUTHLESS, look at anyone in a position of power/wealth (same thing), you will find that they are absolutely fucking ruthless, doesnt matter if they show it publically, look hard enough and you will see an animal.
Completely agreed.
Yeah, its the same reason why many women CEOs are worse than the male ones. Imagine how cold and conniving you need to be to make it as a woman in that cuttthroat, male dominated world. All those people are psychos
Wow you just turned on a light I didn't even consider?
Wow I've never thought to say that when dicussing a salary or a raise , "let's negotiate I can't negotiate against myself." Employer's never want to just give you a number they just say "oh is that the lowest salary you would go? Because that's what you've listed as your desired salary." I absolutely hate when they say nope and just throw out a number and refuse to even try to negotiate.
6:18 Imagine watching this after you worked for this guy in Boston and you didn't get moved to Cupertino. You know what he thought of you now.
yeah what a shame
Lol that's what I thought instantly.
Jobs was the new boss, He was just following orders.
“The worst guy to have around. Genius.”. Ok.
Frank Ragetti I wouldn’t call him a genius so much as he was a visionary, but yeah. Not very surprising he was so rigid and frankly an asshole towards his death.
The mirror in this podcast is genius and more podcasts should have them.
Divinegon has you Dan see the other guy I would imagine
Divinegon *can, lol
Yeah..it makes the room look much bigger
Every person oohing and ahhing over Steve's reputation is seriously deluded. This whole theatricality routine is entirely unnecessary.
I like that Mirror concept assuming it's intentional. Helps you focus on the right person at the right time but also allws the other person to peek-a-boo
Now imagine working for someone like Steve Jobs
He sounds like a fucking sociopath
@@jjeremyhunterr hahahaha...it only took about 27 comments for someone to finally get it. The guy's a #@&%ing #@%hole. Why is everyone so afraid to say it?
@@martimusmaximus8121 Some people don't like to speak ill of the dead. Others admire the "genius" of his business sense. Others won't diss him for fear of their beloved Apple iSomething blowing up.
Toxic. Worst boss ever. Or friend.
I'm imagining the part where I hang my star to him and I get rapidly rich. It's amazing. I'm imagining the Bugatti. I love it. The house in the hills is just a bonus.
Steve Jobs didn't shake his hand years before Covid. He was truly ahead of his time.
He remembered details about your family to use that against you in board meetings. What a sociopath
He had an excellent memory, met him several times remembered what I told him, but yes he could be cutting.
Smart CEO & great negotiator is what it sounds like he was, but definitely wouldn't want to do business with him and have an employee work for him
Anyone who needs you less than you need him or her, and knows it, is always scary.
This coming from a person who's handle is 😮😮😮😮
@@elliotsober7042 Have you taken any psychology classes? I don’t think you understand the term. Look it up.
A business is an impersonal and inhumane entity, a monster to be wary of. It doesn't care how you feel.
Andy: i was extremely stressed, he shoved knives down my urethra, my life just became an actual nightmare when i started working for him
Also Andy: lmaooo hes such a genius hes the best ily steve xoxo ❤️❤️
Sounds mentally worn
Bill Burr’s comments about Steve Jobs comes to mind here.
He came out like he was Tesla, tapping into electricity...no belt...sneakers on. 😂
01:00 how is one supposed to know you have to hold the gaze and why is this a good way to filter out people?for example, if you don't say anything and just stare it could easily be interpreted as "oh this guy is a bozo, he just froze in panic and isn't capable"
It's a form of negotiation. Trust me effective
Well, you can hold the gaze in a panicked manner or just look at the other person in a laid-back way.
Well there is freezing in panic and then there is a confident stare, so he probably wants a confident stare
Ask wtf you staring at?
after 10 seconds...
bruh
after 60 seconds
BRUH!
poor man was clinically insane. tech's jim jones
lol
Stunning interview. After reading about Jobs for years, this is the first time I have heard direct interaction with him described and how it felt. Well done.
When he said he'd whip it out referring to Steve and you wanted to please him I was done.....
yeah, tyranical bosses are a dime a dozen, fuck him and all like him
Even Kevin O'Leary was almost terrified of Steve Jobs.
Kevin o Leary is not impressive
Jesus Christ, this sounds like being a pledge in a fraternity forever where the stakes are so much higher. I would never work for Steve Jobs
Please keep the business content coming! As a student who wants to work in the industry, this kind of content is amazingly insightful and super interesting. Keep it coming and Go Huntsman!
Listening to this actually makes me want to never buy an apple product again... our generation has revolted against abuse, sexism, racism etc... and this is acceptable?
and look how mediocre and average things are
@@AllenParkerGarcia Have you looked at Apple products recently? They've stopped innovating. They've brought down 'professional' to the lowest common denominator.
Don't be a snowflake it wasn't that bad what was described.
Elf Machine what’s a snowflake?
@@trainzandtrombones I think we're arguing the same thing
I recall once accidentally placing a second dot on an 'i' on a whiteboard in a pressured 4am stand-up meeting at Apple, and without saying a word, Steve Jobs grabbed me by the hair and dragged me out to the parking lot, threw me into the trunk of his SL55 and drove for several hours. Finally, we stopped and he opened the trunk, and parched, I had to squint in the harsh light but anger was still visibly etched onto his face. The heat was like a crucible and I guessed we were in some sort of desert; probably the Mojave, some 300 miles from Cupertino. Wordlessly he threw me a shovel and motioned me to start digging.
I had to dig for an hour or two, drenched in sweat and every muscle screamed with pain in protest. Pausing for the briefest chance of a rest and trying to comprehend what was happening, my reverie was broken when he snatched the shovel off me and violently swung it fracturing my arm; sending me flying onto my back into the deep coffin-sized trench I had just dug. He then filled it in over me whilst mouthing the word 'S-I-M-P-L-I-C-I-T-Y' over and over, and as the dirt finally concealed me and everything faded to black, I was grateful that he taught me that life-changing lesson about not accidentally putting an extra dot on an 'i'.
😂
Then he backed up over your grave and spit on it while yelling out “BOZO!”
@@MrMaguuuuuuuuuThat was most likely after I had died. My ghost is writing this from beyond this mortal plane using an ighost35 Pro Max
The borderline abuse, disrespect and almost fatal amounts of stress that people put up with for their careers amazes me sometimes.
Not fun to work in these circumstances
The interviewee said something different
@@FreakyStyleytobby Yeah, it's hilarious how many people are calling Jobs an asshole and criticizing his methods, when the dude telling the anecdotes was essentially praising Jobs' methodology.
@@Eorzat Doesn't mater that kind of personally. Shouldn't be complemented. His skills were great but you don't have to be like a drill sergeant to achieve what Apple did.
@@comicdude1996 you have to be like that if u want the absolute best results.
@@comicdude1996 I mean, that's actually debatable. There's a lot of anecdotes where Jobs wanted timelines that people didn't think were possible. Like they'd want 2 months, and he'd say 2 weeks or something. And he ended up being right a lot of times.
Also don't forget that Apple almost went brankrupt after they removed Jobs from the company and then specifically pleaded for him to come back. After his return, their profits began to soar, so there's definitely a correlation between his methodology and Apple's success. I really don't see how you could build a company like Apple, Tesla, etc. without demanding the absolute best from your employees at each and every moment.
Their power is our perception of their power. No one has any power that we don't give them. We give them all the power that they have. That includes these politicians, religious leaders, and bankers.
Boom
@@bullettomy7thheart Tick, Tick, Tick, Tick, BOOM!!!
I think he pussied out when Steve renegotiated the deal price. I think he would’ve been respected more if he found a way to firmly stay at the agreed terms. Sometimes these big dogs just like testing people. Imo
$275 million, you likely keep 10% of it being the CEO, and you get hired at a job that pays $5-$10mil/yr in executive compensation.
What the hell difference would it make to you to get the extra $50 million when it'd only get you an extra $5 million personally? You'd gain that back in a year at Apple, and you'd gain /25 million dollars/ today.
Plus, larger companies have difficult times winning turf wars with Apple. E.G. Epic. Considering his company did mobile ads, that shit's a dime a dozen these days, the man made a very good call. He's right that he didn't belong in the boardroom with Apple, but the man's wise and made a really good decision.
Professional Complainer I totally get what you’re saying but it’s not as if this was an overnight deal. Probably months of research with market researchers and analysts that came up with this figure - and to have Jobs come in at the last minute and take an axe to the AGREED on price? He was just being a bully and maybe rightfully so. Probably thought he could save Apple millions and I probably would’ve done what they both did in their respective positions. Would’ve sold to just get it done with and I would’ve bullied if I was Jobs. But doesn’t change the possibility that it could’ve been him just trying to get a reaction. Play with big dogs and eventually you’re gonna get bit. Just the nature of the game.
@@tiggie_96 too true. the annoying thing is that apple can engage in monopolistic practices by banning people from their phones. this sort of abuse is legal, even if it means reneging on a pre-agreed deal.
Agreed. Had the price been $275-million (or *any* price), Jobs would've demanded a haircut. (The only thing he fed more aggressively than his tumor was his ego.)
I agree. He may have left that meeting with “no deal.” But give Steve Jobs no more than a day of thinking things over and he would have called him up and agreed to the original deal. I think Steve Jobs valued people who weren’t afraid to fight (and fight him specifically) for their dreams.
Imagine being a fan boy for Steve Jobs, how cringe.
imagine being a elon musk fan boy
@@cheat123 imagine being both, and then liking Kanye
Steve Jobs changed the world all right. Not sure it was for the better though. The guy was a total narcissist who basically said he regretted the way he lived his life on his death bed.
@William Leonard I think @Tikkun's point remains: that a paradigm shift does not necessarily equate to any thing better. The techno utopia promised group of self congratulatory entrepreneurs, who claimed to better the world but just cashed out on our addictions, does raise the concern as to whether there was anything be admired.
@William Leonard But we communicate within our tribes and within the constraints of four characters, we more divided than ever. I doubt the average joe has more conversations with people from other walks of life/countries etc. What does more opportunty really equate too?
Agree with you except that last statement. I have a feeling you are referring to that email that went viral about Steve Jobs death bed regret. He never said those words. In fact it didn't sound like him at all. And all those those were at his bedside confirmed he never said it. In fact his last words were "Oh wow, Oh wow". Which to me is far more interesting!! ;)
@William Leonard simply not true. The ability to communicate either digitally or the myriad of other ways available to humanity is certainly nothing a single person can take credit for. Even if you limited this discussion to the portable and the digital realm, it would not be true. He is responsible for none of the technology and all of the style. If you want genius and originality, then you look at someone like Nikola Tesla. we toss the word genius around for people like Steve Jobs and Elon Musk. Driven opportunists at best who have contributed nothing of any definitive worth to the culture. And the studies that illuminate this point are coming out all around us.
@@stevenponte6655 "Wow!" (*Simplify*)
Innovator: Yes. Genius: Sure. Manipulative P.O.S. and horrible human being: 100%
Please tell me what he actually did invent?! Genius, pftt... bullshit.
Or perhaps you're just a **pussy.**
I think genius is a strong word. But Steve was definitely super smart.
@@phgu Just what I was about to ask. Sounds like he took the credit for a lot of other people’s hard work.
Genius? "Hey nameless, faceless person, make this!"
aka: the idiocy that happens in board rooms where grown men behave like kindergarteners.
Amen.
if these people weren't famous, we'd be wondering if the dude being interviewed is OK and deserves to talk to someone after being abused by steve jobs. but because they are worth thousands of millions of dollars, we're supposed to feel jealous of not being the dude being interviewed.
The man was dying and he worked, insulted and negotiated till the end... that´s scary and sad as hell.
Not enabling captioning is not a sound decision.
That's why Steve jobs hasn't done anything for me, as I never brought any Apple products.
Didn't missed out anything.
"Didn't missed out anything", lol
same
@@stharding1 i have used both iphone and android phones, i can tell you safely that you dont miss anything with android, more like the other way around, if you know how to root the phone, you can do all kinds of stuff that you cant in ios
Gerjaison didn’t ask mate
@@richardfreeman724 lol, I think you missed the point of my comment.
How could anyone be excited about working for such a terrible person? I really do not understand the cult of personality that Jobs developed around himself...
"When people see this they gonna say, 'He wasn't really a nice guy, he may have been a tyrant'. Well that's you - because you never really won anything." - Michael Jordan
I always remember that and it's so true, in business, sports, life.
Exactly!no one was held there against their will.
He LET himself be intimidated. He let it happen to him.
That was a fantastic interview! Thank you.
All of the technologies Jobs promoted either already existed or would have existed and been sold by other companies. The more I hear about the dude the less impressed I become with him. He had a lot of failed ventures and was never the mastermind behind any technology. He just seems like he was a good social manipulator and marketer, with some egomania and narcissism thrown in, nothing more than that.
Of course Apple didin't outright invent these technologies, but that's not how progress works. That would be like saying Nirvana is an overrated band because power chords allready existed and grunge had been mainstream before Nevermind blew up. It's about presentation, the feel of the product, and knowing what not to do and how to make a product that felt intuitive. Before iPhone, nobody had a phone so streamlined that made using it as inherently addictive as phones are now. And that was in 2007!
Jobs saw potential in unfinished technologies and pushed to make them usable by the masses. He demanded excellence. Success also comes with failure. You cannot be afraid to fail if you want to succeed.
@@pat3000721this is not true...you didn't have a cellphone
Imagine all the Boston “bozo” employees that just found out in this interview that the reason they were told they weren’t moving to Cupertino wasn’t quite true.
1. Scary - high standards - focus on providing the best for the customer
2. You are a hero or a bozo - Think on your feet and respond to criticism
3. Do you think your parents would be proud of your performance today?
4. Make deadlines tighter - high stress
5. Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - boil everything down to it's essence
6. High Energy
7. Focus - Pay attention
8. Notice life is a path - travel the less travelled path
Great negotiator, great negotiator. Mafia was always great at negotiating like this, guys. "You wouldn't want anything happen to your legs, would you?" :D
Steve Jobs never flushed the toilet after to punish the next person with the stink
Good lord!! Steve saved 50 million instantly on a deal that was all but signed by just being a jerk, that’s awesome and insane! 😂
same concept as the whole 'customer making a scene gets served first' thing
@@cleesely That would have a short shelf-life I think.
A Person
Uh huh. That’s some weird sarcasm Lol but I’m sure it was a company deal not a personal one.
Jobs did the same tatics as Trump does.
No that's called Power. He used Apple's position to fuck this Man over. And he was OK about it.
Oh man, Steve put a ball gag on me and beat me with knotted paracord and it was the simplest and most user-friendly ball gag. He was all about simplifying so he didn't talk he just beat me without mercy. I learned so much.
Why on earth would anyone want to work with a person like that? There are plenty of amazing opportunities that don't involve working with bullies and sociopaths. Thinking this is regular and normal is real issue in business.
It always baffles me that somehow society is accepting the *most* psychological sick/abusing behaviours if that person has "succcess".
That the endresult is more worth then the process and its way.
Would’ve loved some context in the description. Who’s this guy being interviewed? What was his company that was bought by Apple?
Andy Miller, CEO of NRG. Company he sold was Quattro Wireless.
@@SurajSheth who company? Lol. Bozos lol
It was common knowledge even when he was alive that Jobs was an abusive, sociopathic asshole. It led to his success, but the fact that so many people remember him fondly is kinda crazy. The guy was a giant piece of shit in every regard, just a ruthless businessman. It's well documented that he treated his workers like shit, treated his kids like shit, he used people and squeezed whatever he deemed useful out of them before discarding them. It's fine to love Apple products, but this type of person should not be lauded.
Disappointing that even when faced with death, Jobs didn't value peoples' lives more. I can appreciate his accomplishments and vision, he definitely brought Apple back from the ashes...but at what cost...and is the world really better today because of Apple products? I don't think so, it's solved as many problems as it has created.
He stopped valuing other people the day after they stopped valuing his; his own company booted him out originally,, Apple tanked, he created Pixar I think? Then Apple bought Pixar, making Jobs an Apple employee again, where he climbed the ladder to the top, taking control once again bring Apple into a new era of success. I think if I had that happen to me, I would become an absolute asshole to anyone who questioned me as well.
@@digitalconsciousness Thing is that's not what changed him, as he's always been like that from all the interviews I've watched. He was a genius, but simply not a great person. He would have made a great dictator in some parts of the world. Again, I have great respect for his accomplishments, very little for how he achieved them.
ask Amazon how they are treat today. go for.
@@sparcx86channel42 2 wrongs don't make a right.
Speedytrip Just by reading your comment I wouldn’t judge you to be a “great person” either. Neither of us have even met him or gained the life experience to put ourselves in his shoes, so whatever you’re trying to articulate is pretty baseless.
Very good memory and thank you for sharing these experiences.
Steve Jobs: it’s about elegant simplicity
Apple: releases iOS 14.0.1
Steve Jobs: 🤬
Lol they are finally able to customize it. They are now going after Android users but they are still missing so many Android features.
Dustin Box yup. Feels like an android and it is horrible
Could’ve said the ipad stylus
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It's funny how Jobs was this strict but then someone like Phil Schiller somehow managed to get past him
UA-cam etiquette 101: Put the name of the person you're interviewing in the title or description of your video.
its amazing how jobs treated his guys like shit and they would thank them even after his death - like in a bad japanese marshall arts movie.
Me to Steve: The Jerk Store called, they're running out of you!
Damn. Saved Apple fifty million dollars through sheer intimidation in under five minutes. Legend.
I lost them $275million because they closed their ad service (iads) just a few years later. He only wanted beautiful brand ads from the likes of nike, coca cola etc, but the money in mobile advertising is from all the crappy ads
Tim is a better CEO then Steve. Lol.
Steve wants everyone to be a tough and good negotiator, and then makes Andy take a $50MM haircut. Working with Steve sounds like pure hell. I think I would have walked out at that point.
If the guys is willing to cut the price by 50mio in 5min … run away. You are buying crap
@@Thelustigclubexactly how dumb this whole thing is jsmh
In 25 years we will hear about peoples experiences with Elon Musk and im sure the contrast with Steve Jobs will be night and day. Arguably, Elon has changed the world an order of magnitude more...
Elon is nicer then Steve , but his employees were also afraid of being fired. They never knew when they will be terminated.
Elon Musk is just as bad lmao
Man, you literally need to put the guest's name somewhere. The world is not circling around Jobs.
fun fact jobs actually eats the hearts of unborn fetuses AFTER performing the abortion. He needed to do so to stay alive as long as he did. Truly horrifying.
Woz is such a sweet Guy. Seems like Jobs was his total opposite. He was just like American Psycho character.
Imagine being one of the people in Andy’s company asked to stay in Boston after the sale to Apple and then watching this. Haha