"School & The Modern World Failed Us!"- #1 Reason This Generation Is Struggling | Eric Weinstein
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Sometimes a “learning disability” turns out to be a superpower. Sometimes traits that are labelled dumb or defective turn out to be necessary and brilliant. Eric Weinstein is someone who was told throughout his schooling that there was something wrong with him. No. There was (and is) something wrong with the system. On this episode of Conversations with Tom, Eric Weinstein delves into exactly what’s wrong with our education and economic system. While doing so, he also delivers some fantastic tactics and secrets on how to optimize your own learning and mindset. By the time Tom and Eric are finished with their discussion, you might start to consider the possibility that the Matrix really was a documentary after all.
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SHOW NOTES:
Eric and Tom discuss the Matrix [1:17]
Eric talks about how people literally see different colors [5:54]
Eric discusses altered consciousness and mind states [8:10]
Eric and Tom discuss spending time closer to a state of nature [10:23]
Eric talks about how technology has changed his attention span [14:12]
Eric discusses his goal of giving people the superpower of extraordinary learning [16:08]
Eric talks about teaching disabilities and the failures of the education system [23:31]
Eric explains how to eliminate the errors you make [25:58]
Eric and Tom discuss learning to play guitar [29:33]
Eric and Tom discuss using violent language [33:13]
Eric talks about balancing rationality and archetypal spirituality [35:23]
Tom and Eric discuss making a “steel man” argument [40:53]
Eric explains that the guitar itself is born out of impurity [45:44]
Tom and Eric talk about the math and physics inherent in music [49:34]
Eric talks about how his learning disabilities forced him to find new ways to learn [56:02]
Yo-Yo Ma never won any competitions as a youth [1:01:38]
Do not over-medicate your kids. They can learn anything. [1:05:11]
Eric explains how to teach music in a completely alternate way [1:06:23]
Eric and Tom discuss the education system and why it fails [1:11:42]
“My PhD belongs to every learning disabled family in the country.” [1:15:51]
The kid you put in the dumby pile might have some superpowers [1:20:51]
Tom discusses a billion wicked thoughts and sexual desire [1:25:05]
Eric talks about how technology and economics have changed sexuality and family [1:31:18]
Tom and Eric discuss economic growth and the lack of wage growth [1:39:48]
Eric explains why people are not excited about their economic future [1:44:45]
Eric ends by returning to the parable of the Matrix [1:53:00]
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Wow. Erics patience with all of the interuptions is amazing. He's very graceful.
Yeah, it's pretty bad. Only 15 mins in and I'm moving on. He won't let him finish his thought so there's no conclusion to any of his ideas.
Plus the constant cussing ..
That fact that Tom was actively resisting the idea of spending time in the country, is obsessed with being around people and also robots and the Matrix... dude's a fucking agent.
@@tjkatz Like that "CIA spy" he had on. Yea. A spy. With 20 million views. As a spy. Got it.
@@castirondude I don't care for the interviewer either, but there are so many more important things to consider on that matter than something so excruciatingly topical. It's asinine.
for someone bothering to watch a 2 hour video interviewing a person heralded as being a pinnacle of rational, deconstructive thinking, I cannot fathom how you as a viewer could give so much of a shit about this to comment on it, as though there is any actual substance to that beyond negative feelies.
"Those words are bad. Smart people don't use those words. I don't like those words because I am smart and smart people do not like bad words".
There is no fundamental logic to the problem that you have decided exists here.
I don't mean to go so hard at you as an individual but rather just anyone who whines about this, acting as though your chosen means of conforming to some arbitrary idea of "linguistic maturity" has any bearing at all on whether a person has things of value to say or whether they should be listened to.
My heart broke for the interviewer when Eric was trying to teach him the magic of music, and the interviewer said what good is that? I just want the utility of the guitar to get me laid. How said. The portals are closed to you sir because you see everything as a means to an end and not the pathway to infinity.
Hit the nail on the head. The portal is closed to Tom
I literally cringed in disgust when he said that.
Agree. Harmonics blew my feeble mind back in the day … Like no acid trip could
Some people need the value to keep going - if there was no carrot or even the hint of a carrot, they can't get going
Maybe getting laid is the route to a different portal...who is to say where the portal is accessed? This is the problem in what is random and what is a portal.
You did Eric dirty with the thumbnail. He deserves much more respect. For a man for the people
He’s just salty. There’s a difference between Confident and cocky. This Tom dude is full blown cocky ego held high as can be. He made himself look like a goof by discounting everything every word he says to act like he is digging into it. F ing goof man and he definitely did Eric dirty with that thumbnail.
A lot of his thumbnails are atrocious
thats what I'm saying. His last "clip" opened with him right on "pron". what the shit.
yeah THAT is a serious tendency on so many good youtube vid producers, it's really unfortunate and makes me not want to share some vid's sometimes, or i have to give a comment /label saying the marketing is misleading
Tom seemed to be acting like P Diddy in this cast, wanting Eric to show him crazy skill sets.
Can Tom stop talking? He has a guest on.
He keeps talking about himself not realizing no-one really cares and clicks because of Eric lol. He's trying so hard to look like "one of them" with each guest.
Exactly, and he talks way too self confident about himself, which is off-putting.
@@Ruktiet He made Quest Protein. So he has some merit, but he's still a little precocious. And not to mention, Eric is a con artist and not necessarily that intelligent himself. He was infected by the woke mind virus.
It’s not possible for him. It’s also very clear now that he doesn’t even understand basic economics. Which is shocking.
The F-bombs detract from the entire conversation as well.
This would be so much better if Eric was allowed to finish a thought
I actually like when he breaks it up because Eric will drone on into something I can't quite understand, like what Tom was saying "I ain't registering in my brain cell"
I got Fs and Ds all the way through and was beaten and despised for it. Wasnt till i was 30 and took remedial courses and went to college i realized i was gifted intellectually. Sadly it was too late anf my strugggle with alcoholism kept me from completing graduate education.
Finally got sober at 50. Im 62 next month and looking back is no fun.
If kids like this have just one person, one adult to recognize them for what they are as a child it would change the entire trajectory of life.
You deserved better. I think it says something about you, that you're here exercising curiosity, and learning. I wish I could say the same of so many other 62 year olds.
How was it you realized you were gifted intellectually?
When I was a kid, everyone told me I was talented and gifted with super high IQ - and that contributed to me becoming lazy and entitled. So idk. I wish they had never told me that. I hadn't earned it yet IN THE FIFTH GRADE. Giving people things for free that they haven't earned RUINS THEM - just look at generational welfare, lottery winners, modern women with all that social media attention, or the "affluenza" of rich people's children...
You shouldn't have been beaten and I shouldn't have been coddled.
I feel sad that looking back is not fun for you.
Same brutal experience.@@constantobjects
I once tutored a kid in high school who was “having trouble in math”. It took me a few sessions, but I discovered that his issue was the fact that he couldn’t decipher his own hand writing. He literally couldn’t tell the difference between his own written 4s and 9s. It blew me away that no teacher or loved one had paid enough attention to realize what was going on.
So true. I went thru that with my child when she was 12. Teaching her to write numbers so they are not ambiguous. They don't do much handwriting in school these days. And no one is helping them watch for bad habits (low conscientiousness)
So YOU were the one who tutored Tom! Tell us more...
I learned the truth in 2020 schools closed homeschooled for 2 years my son 2nd and 3rd grade. He could get all work done by 11:30 that was taking breaks too. They don’t teach spelling anymore so how do they expect kids to read if you can’t spell. No cursive writing so they can’t read the constitution of America. They teach them to memorize reading not teaching them to sound out words. They only go to school to learn how to be on time and do what they are told so they grow up to be good tax payers. I have 3 kids so I see difference in three decades cause my oldest is 34 son 21 daughter 11 son. I am 52 and so different from when I was in school. It’s sad. I am married to a Narcissist Matrix man thinks everything is going to be fine so blind. Thinks I am crazy but I see the truth of everything. Spiritual Holy Spirit gave me eyes and ears to see truth. Thankful ❤ it’s messed up blinded by the god of this world.
Another one is vision where a kid cannot clearly see the whiteboard unless he/she is up front or fitted with contacts/glasses. I'm sure hearing and Spectrum/ADHD are similar.
> It blew me away that no teacher or loved one had paid enough attention to realize what was going on
It blows me away that he was in highschool and he himself didn't realize that he couldn't write what he wrote and that that's something he should fix. MIddle school, maybe. HS? C'mon. I hope you gave him the confidence to bother to try after that as apparently he was checked out and didn't care.
"I'm interested in everyone who got left behind." Yes, this, absolutely. Can't even say how much this video opened my mind. My brother was one of those brilliant kids who got medicated because the teacher and my mother couldn't deal with him. This covers so many subjects that I have been concerned about. An education in itself.
Prussians say: "go forth into grapeshot, without flinching!"
Eric is a teacher with a message of hope. People have endless potential. Never let the "system" or "matrix" keep you boxed in.
Kids with an education may have endless potential. Erics views are from a man who has grown wuth wealth. The poor cant wait to get married and have kids, and they do. Not thinking of consequence
The poor will inherit the earth.
What is the single most amazing thing in the universe, as we are aware right now? The Human Brain
And it's not even close...
yeah but societies like the US need to put the effort in as a group and the money, to get a good educational system to be on par with peer nations someday hopefully. We've fallen behind for forty yrs straight! Same w/ quality of justice system and of law enforcement at local level, ie police. Time for investment over next two decades!
Im almost in tears listening to Eric Weinstein talking about how the society excludes people with a different way of thinking and undersstanding. I went through all that shit and ended up literally losing eye because of conflict that started with me not being able to learn and being frustrated at school as they were telling me mentally to like "lay down and stay down" every time i had a question they didnt know how to answer. Its like being indoktrinated into becoming a very defiant person at a very young age so later this defiant way of looking at learning and school and the world just bled out into every aspect of my life and ended up sewerely hurt in a fight when i was 17 years old. im 32 now and im basically an outcast of society diagnosed as a mentally ill person although i know all this couldve been prevented and I could've easily gotten a normal life if guys like Eric Weinstein was actually taken seriously by society but instead people choose to bring people like him down. for the reason of tribalism. and the (why are you not acting like us like normal??) excuse of treating someone like shit..
I just wanted you to know you're not the only person who's felt like this. Much love in life. Be the change you want to see in others. x
I have called public schools indoctrination camps since my school days. The adults were furious for being called commissars. If they teach us to think instead of to memorize, I would have called them teachers
Eric is talking to one of his challenged students in this podcast...the host. Eric did great!
Love it when if Tom can't figure out his guest explanation of a concept etc., he would say so straight away and ask for a more simpler explanation - (no ego) 👌
Eric is literally one of the most incredible people on this planet right now. I watch every single video I can find with him in it.
That you're aware of lol
Yeah. I was big into his brother Bret first, after learning of Evergreen, but mostly his interpretation of evolutionary biology. Then a dual interview of the two with Dave Rubin got me focusing on Eric's genius. I'm writing this about the 5:00 minute mark where Tom explains his feelings through the fictional character of Solieri in Amadeus, and realized I was asking forever the same question: "Why make me smart but not as brilliantly smart as Eric or Bret?"
Now he made me go look up the word "umwelt"...
Me too!
@@YourBeastRoy What an odd comment, are you mad they didn't say you're their fave?
I'm 5 minutes in, and I already feel bad for Eric. The interviewer is so difficult to listen to. He isn't letting Eric speak and is spending all of the time talking about himself.
doesnt comprehend or appreciate what eric is saying.. would rather regurgitate others info he doent even understand.. listens only to respond with irrelevance
@@CoPaVolvo "listens only to respond with irrelevance" This is a correct description of what's going on. Tom's interview style makes me appreciate good interviewers so much more.
Tom is clearly from ME, ME, ME generation.
I feel like the best way eric could have explained it to tom. Would have been to snap back at him when Tom snapped at him and rudely said. " THats not true, if I needed an employee I'd pay him more money."
Ok lets use your best guy as example. Call up that blue collar guy right now, because your obviously on a first name bases with him right? Lets see how his son turned out now that you took away his dad with all that overtime.
I don't think Tom is capable of understanding the issue unless someone really hammers in how he personally had a hand in fucking up our society.
Eric is amazing, I can only imagine how differently my life would have turned out if I would have had someone like him on my side when was in school. We need a huge overhaul in our education system, we need to do better as a society, we need to demand better as a society.
Education only begins when you escape the prison of school...at least that's been my experience. I don't consider school to be part of the educational system.
"Anyway Eric, enough talk about me... tell me, what do you think about me?"
You make my day with big laugh..
@superloose precisely. do you know the timestamp when eric gets to speak?
Nice to see an interview with someone who isn't trying to sell me something.
Frank Manning i know right !
Frank Manning Right hahaha
The Portal sells you.....
Buy into the portal!
Everyone is trying to sell you something and it's not a product of capitalism so don't even bitch about it but it's part of human nature
“When I was following the rules, I didn’t meet anybody...” Best interview ever! Tom. Please do a show just on this topic.
"We can lie about us all being the same or we can recognize that our gifts lie in different places." Sentence like that if properly expressed and accepted, I personally believe have potential to make significant impacts in the cleaning up of the mess of which you two brilliantly discussed.
1:02:05👍
Around 1:00 hits home. My kid is not dyslexic or a failing student. But her educators see her introverted nature only. She's actually just perceptive and selective. She's an incredibly gifted singer and songwriter who's confidence was squashed by educators who favor certain students primarily because of the connections between the grownups.
I hope she escaped this. I'm certain your child is doing great now!
Many of the comments about how we learn, and the trouble some had in school fitting in, are hitting me hard. Your idea about educators favoring certain students, because of who their parents are, just turned on a another light in a dark room for me. I grew up in a small town where everyone knew, or thought they knew, everybody else. Like someone above said, “it’s the questions they don’t want to answer” where the truth will be found.
@@cliftonbrown4051usually escape is the only way. I grew up in the '70's and it was horrific, even as one of the two top students, it was so pathetic to see how ppl thought, their small-mindedness, and this was in a fairly sophisticated environment, in a relatively somewhat/advanced city/culture etc.
The thing I love about Eric is he is not self-absorbed.
He stays focused on what’s important.
hes Damn cool
What does showering have anything to do with decrease in risk taking ?
True
@@Kzombie Could be that the brain knows the body is in a lower comfort state than it was before and to reach that comfort state once again it needs to start taking greater risks until it has been achieved.
Unlike this arsehole that's interviewing him.
I identify so deeply with Eric's message. I baffled my teachers and parents by not being able to read. I was tested for dyslexia, and other learning disabilities but passed every test. They tested my IQ and I scored a 147. However, I couldn't for the life of me learn to spell or read. Even to this day, I am a very very slow reader. Which is odd, because I am an incredibly fast writer and typist. I am also still atrocious at spelling. No one ever solved it, but while they were baffled I slowly fell through the cracks. The school wouldn't hold me back because of my testing, but they stuck me in the remedial classes because of my struggles. It took my mom suing the school before they put me in more challenging classes. I did a lot better in the more challenging classes, but still didn't do extremely well. I worked harder to get around doing the home work than the effort it would have taken to have completed it. However, I'd ace tests because my memory is extremely sharp, and I absorb information quickly.
I realized early on that I would do extremely well and work hard if I was interested in something. If i found it fun. It took me until my mid-twenties to realize this wasn't a disadvantage... My portal was discovering how to make anything interesting by asking the right questions and remaining constantly fascinated at the applications of that subject to other things I already was passionate about.
For example... If you hate to cook and look at it as a chore, but you love to paint... Start finding the comparisons in the two. They are both forms of self expression, and they both manipulate ordinary things to induce an emotional response. The plate is your canvas, the ingredients your paint, your knives your brush, etc. Look at the parallels and it opens a lot of doors. All of a sudden you've discovered the corner of cooking that ties into your deep passion to paint and by proxy making it interesting and easier to learn.
Perfect way of thinking. I do this as well.
I think people that tell people what their IQ is should all be sent Botswana and teach humble tribes to solder microchips like a boss! After 4 decades of putting in work for that... they travel easterly 45 miles and do it again!!! #goodideas
It took me nearly 50 years to realise I had learning problems in school. I was lead down the corporate path, but I am artist. I couldn't comply. Just like Eric I skipped a grade. I don't play the game in life by their rules either. As Eric said if you follow the rules, you meet no one. You will also find yourself alone, not many understand. Grant Walker yes I know no other way.
You are too focused on yourself.
Curious. To me your limpid words pose a conundrum. A self-proclaimed slow reader with skewed spelling, yet prosing clear script. To ponder. Presumptions begone. Premises prepare for review and revision.
39:49 This is what I do with my son! He’s 13, ADHD and tests as having slow processing speed. When he hits writer’s block, or any opposition to his school work, I initiate a good explicative riff and invite him to join in. He LOVES it. It instantly loosens him up, and gets his brain cranking. So encouraged to see this brought up here!
Eric -- your views on education are so perfectly right on and need to be heard and deeply considered by most "educators." I was channeled into English because a Jr. High School "counselor" judged my by an aptitude test and told me my dream of becoming an Astrophysicist. I've made a living of English. I write books, and they get good reviews. But I was never allowed to learn Math. I'm 75 now, so, who cares at this point. But it still makes me angry that my Mom never went to bat for me. But you have a great message and more people employed as educators need to hear it.
Tommy we love you! You are moving the limits, and we thank you for insight to bring us closer to your guests. That's what you're good at. Don't let your ego drag you aside, remember why you started, let them speak ❤️
Mario, I'm struck by how politely and positively you managed to phrase your criticism. Myself, I go for the no frills approach, but I admire your tact.
I don't believe his ego got the best of him, I believe he just REALLY got excited for that particular subject.
Yes, please.
Thank you for saying it so wisely. Tom asks the questions and answers them himself. or try to influence the guest to answer the way he wants.
The monologue about leaving noone behind almost made me cry. To me, from now on, Eric is a hero with a huge shining L on his chest and you can pick whether it means Loser or Love... or Learner
Ludmila Marešová this
Me too
Hal-le-lu-jah 🙏🏼
Probably for leach.
I think Eric would agree that everything Starts with an (e).
10 minutes in I already know how painful it will be to listen to Tom try to interview one of the greatest minds of our time.
It's truly torture lol.
One of the clips was amazing and made me come here but it’s so bad
It's like the difference between mind of an ant trying to make sense of the mind of a human.
@@genestone4951 i agree but i actually let it ride basically, ie i see the fluidity in this dialogue, strangely.
Haha Exactly
It's probably intimating to interview this man. His intellect and abilities are formidable. Not everyone can keep up with him. At least Tom is making a fair attempt to explore ideas with him. Hats off to Tom for possessing the confidence and good nature to host Eric. Well done.
Eric is literally the smartest mind I have encountered amongst the sea of speakers and thinkers available to listen to on UA-cam.
And amazingly some of his coolest conversation is with the self anointed"meathead "Joe Rogan! talk about divergent intelects coming to the table for some great conversation.
gotama420 - Joe Rogan is fascinating in that respect. Jordan Peterson had in interesting way of describing him. He said Joe was not an intellectual, but he would happily go on an intellectual journey for the joy of it...not caring about the destination...and that Joe would readily challenge an intellectual’s thought if he disagreed with it.
Personally, I think that perfectly describes Rogan. He is one of the best interviewers out there.
Try Tyler Cowen. His intelligence rivals eric's.
gotama420 - BTW, Eric had one of Joe’s friends on The Portal. Guy was...forgive me for not recalling exactly...”Brian Callan”..or something. And Brian was a very interesting guy, too. I highly recommend you listen to it. Just a neat guy.
Look up Daniel Schmachtenberger. That dude is comparable to Eric in my opinion.
I regularly tell my son that the most amazing people in the world have disabilities. People who don’t learn like everyone else interpret the world differently, and it makes them special later in life. Even his persistence , not a disability but extra annoying is going to let him stand out later. I try to get him to stop while not taming my little stallion. Tom thank you and your guest for all that you share with the world!
The ability to see things from a different perspective then the masses is a blessing check out literature on pygmalion effect pretty cool stuff
I am an educator (science teacher) and my thoughts on education mirror Eric’s completely. I teach at a private college prep school and I am disheartened with the standards of our current education system. I want to reach every student at a cellular level and to instill a sense of curiosity for life. I want to reach the students in any way possible and I am a cheerleader for the students that learn differently. Sadly, my mindset is a minority at my high school that charges $26,000 a year. I don’t feel the kids are getting the true education they deserve. My dream would be to build a school that represents Eric’s views exactly!
When I was a small child living in an abusive household, I would hide in my closet to sleep at night to feel safe. Physically trapped, I would leave my body and fly around my neighborhood. I shared that with my grandmother who told me that was impossible and people would think I was crazy. I believed her and stopped the practice. I didn't want to be that weird kid who everyone laughed at. I don't know now if I was imagining it or really doing it. We seem to conform to what we are told are limitations, but are they really?
Me and my sister both did this as children. As adults we can still recall the places we went and they are the same!
The most likely explanation is that you created a map of your neighborhood in your mind. In the olden days, people who were different were often horribly mistreated. Your grandmother was probably trying to protect you. Maybe she experienced something like that and sought to spare you that bad experience.
As an educator who works with the children he is talking about and was one of them. Thank you sir for standing up for us all!
Hi ....click quranexplorer.com/quran/
Read, understand, and remember the "truth" chapter 64, 67, 69, 70, 70, 76, 77, 78, 79 .
good luck
This dude is on another level of intelligence. One can only hope to get to this level of genius. One of the smartest people I believe Tom has ever had on his show. Thank you.
...and he messed it up by trying to put himself on the same level. Very sad.
You are easily impressed. I think he's a crackpot and a narcissist. Do some googling
Eric. Indonesian is not so easy to learn. I've been here for nearly 30 years, written a small dictionary bilingual dictionary on 156 irregular verbs from the English language and still get a lot of things mucked up. I've been educating for nearly 30 years. I'm dyslexic, but that helped me learn ... so much that ... teachers and folks just go wow, and give me the credit. Tom, I love you. Thanks for having him on the show. You have brought out some of his passion that I had only caught glimpses of in many of his talks, I've seen much of which "fly" well above my head.
50:21 - Tom, I don't know if you still need this, but I'm going to explain it. The ancients (Greeks primarily, but it was also arrived at in other parts of the world) discovered that two simultaneous musical notes sound good together if the the ratio of their frequencies can be expressed by a fraction made of "small integers." Octaves sound good - 2:1. Fifths sound good - 3:1 or 3:2. And so on. If you start building up a library of tones based on this idea, you can arrive at 12 notes that lie in a single octave together. By this time they don't necessarily all sound good together, but they spread out over the octave nicely and pairs and triplets of them can sound good together.
You can begin this process on any frequency - on any note. You can take any musical note you like as the "lowest note." So you can build that set of 12 notes 12 times, with each successive note of the first batch taken as the starting point. Unfortunately, you find you get different notes all over the place. But a few hundred years ago someone observed that the notes did tend to fall into groups. The discovered if they created 12 notes starting on some frequency F and made the notes F*(2^(i/12)) as i runs from 0 to 11, they get notes that really work just as well for our ear, and then all 12 keys have the SAME NOTES. These notes can be up to 1% different from the original set in frequency, but none of the differences is enough for our ear to care. Just intonation was the "perfection" that we initially discovered, but we later abandoned it for an "impure" system that "works well enough" and offers many advantages.
This is the entire basis of Western music. This is the "even tempered" scale Eric was refering to, while the "small integer fraction" scale discussed originally, which is different notes in every key, is "just intonation." Eric is calling even-tempered "impure" because the notes are not formed from small-integer fractional frequency ratios.
Hope that helps.
Used to be a special ed teacher. When I taught my students, I often used vocabulary words that I knew they didn't know or understand, but I always would restate what I was saying by using simpler synonyms for the words. To my way of thinking, not using the unfamiliar words BECAUSE they were unfamiliar meant that my students would NEVER become familiar with them. Also, I know that very unfamiliar material has to be introduced even though there is almost a 100% chance the new material won't stick. The point is not to get it to stick the first time...it's to give the mind something for the idea to stick to the SECOND and THIRD time it hears it, so that the brain can say, "Oh, I've heard that before!" It worked well because "that's how it works".
I can't tell you how many times I was given grief by my professors and administrators (principals) when they came into my class for evaluations. Pretty much every time I was "counted off" for using "inappropriate level vocabulary" with my students even though I was defining the words for them as I went. I remember one of my students telling me one day, "Your class is the most difficult class I have--and it's the only one I have an A in."
Krav Magoo thank you! For your work. I have a “special needs” son. I use vocabulary far beyond what he’s expected to grasp.
His language & ability to express him self is off the charts. Long before he knew the words “meaning” I noticed he would use it in the right context when talking.
So I knew I was on to something.
Now, writing and public speaking is his strongest asset.
Excellent teacher!
I've tried to do the same for my bilingual kids who may not hear some words/expressions not living in a native English speaking country.
talk down dumb down. Talk up lift up.
yep! THIS is such an important idea and concept in teaching. It reminds me a lot of what i learned in Intro to Linguistics (which was the second or third most interesting course i ever took), and it reminds me of one way foreign lang's are taught. Big btw, thank u for being a teacher, it's a service like no other.
As one of the silent generation who only found out she was dyslexic in her 50s I say thank you for an intelligent conversation. I nodded in agreement many times. Never part of academia I am suddenly finding I understand it and belong there. The silent generation has been waiting for the internet to actually have their say. It has been my educator and liberator.
That's awesome Julie!
I'm Glad you're finding enlightenment on the internet for yourself
28:35 ChatGPT did that to me TWICE yesterday! I had an acronym wrong, so it kept explaining the wrong one... But when I told it what the acronym should roughly stand for, it knew IMMEDIATELY... That's an amazing point Eric brings up! An AI teacher can teach you THE EXACT NUGGET you need RIGHT NOW, based on the specific mistake you made. I don't care what anybody says, but that's definitely disruptive as it relates to education! If I had such an AI in my school days, I'd have aced everything, because it removes the only problem with teaching multiple kids at once: Attention to each specific child!
Brilliant comment... agreed
Wow I so wish I had Eric as my teacher. I was extremely ADHD. Such a different kind of learner but absolutely love it, just have a hard time catching the correct context. Eric seems to bring that about, very refreshing.
Eric is one of my favorite people.
Agree. I love learning more about how Eric's mind works. His view of this life and our brains is immensely fascinating.
How is that? I see no value in this discussion.
@@benevolentdictator2315 That's because of the interviewer. His "interview" with his brother Bret is a great conversation.
Really? you must be horribly boring.. Ya He is a genius but hes also so Pompous and sucks so much ass lol
Tom you need to chill out a lil' man. Let Eric actually express a full thought without interrupting! ugh
Yes! Dude I low-key wanted to lovingly slap him when Eric was tryna explain the guitar part. No hate towards you Tom and appreciate the interview but damn just let the man talk a little bit and give him some silence to work with
Let’s not forget that conversations with Tom is more open table conversation between two people, almost as if the cameras aren’t there. Impact Theory is where Tom plays interviewer and Eric would be interviewee so it’s more formal.
Good point. It was a great dialogue, no matter what. I definitely benefitted from it. Thanks to Tom and Eric for making this information available.
@@timfreeman8656 I think you had it right the first time. Why all this apology for telling the truth? Tom is talking way too much and needs to format questions that bring out the best in the other rather than subjecting the listener to his personal process. It takes him way too long to get his point out and it doesn't seem to have much relevance. Love some of his other interviews but this could have been much more informative from Eric.
Tom had a Joe Rogan moment.
I really resonated with what Eric was saying about the education system.
I went through most of my life not knowing that I had ADHD, till only recently being properly diagnosed at age 26.
This explained so much about my life. Eric's depiction of how schooling treated him was pretty spot on to my experience, not to mention so much wasted potential in my life in the following years as a result.
yep! so true. I'm curious around what year u were diagnosed?
11:00 Love this perspective.
Everyone always says "we should go back to nature", and nature is jawdroppingly gorgeous, and peaceful.
But the moment i travelled for the first time in my life, all alone, to Tokyo, and then to Hong Kong, and then 6 years in China. It radically changed me, from that first day in Tokyo, for the better..
Being utterly immersed in the largest metropolis on Earth (or densely packed, like Hong Kong) changed my brain for the better. I gained a completely new perspecive on life, on people. Its so popular to think cities are big dirty shitty horrible places.
But for me it was the opposite. And now that i'm back in my rural town, i ache to return to live in a metropolis.
The way it changed me was, unlike living in a rural place, when i live in an enormous city and look at the skyline at night, i think of all the diversity of human beings living their lives, every bit as real as your own life, right then, in eye-shot, millions of them in every speck of light in every window in every building. Some just found out a parent passed away and are going through that, at this exact moment, some just had their first kiss, at this exact moment, and some are looking back out the window at you, thinking the same thing.
For me, living in a huge city transformed my entire perspective on life for the better.
No longer seeing humanity as a collection of individuals, but rather as a cohesive unit that just struggles to try to get by.
And this wasnt just concious thought, this was largely subconcious.
The "feeling" of walking the streets in Tokyo amongst the skyscrapers, seeing every window lit, and almost feeling the weight of the buildings around you, along with the sounds in the distance of incomprehensibly numerous things going on, then returning to the quietness when walking along the coast just 1km away.
It changed me without having to think about anything or make an effort.
Just like it'd change someone to be stranded on a tropical island like Crusoe.
Once you've REALLY experienced a place like Tokyo, HK, Bangkok, you can never really return to that rural America, even if that's where you physically are.
This man is absolutely admirable. Truly. From the way he thinks to people he is surrounded by.
Eric Weinstein... no, no -- EPIC EINSTEIN!!
"Its Weinstein, not Weinstein!"
--Eric & Bret Weinstein
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I tried, but even Eric Weinstein can't make Tom Bilyeu palatable.
Ken Hiett. Tom did have some real insight into his own limits, but ruined it with his silly mind game. Eric is real intelligence. A real delight to listen to.
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right
At about 20 mins in I was like "it sounds like he was right about being just intelligent enough" 😂. Apparently not enough so to carry on a focused conversation.
"Fuckin" right. I cannot stand the vulgar vocab
Just got to the part where Eric discusses education. Eric, I’m one of those parents and could not agree more!!!! You are sooo right!!!!!
I don't even know what to begin sharing first. This man is saying stuff I argued over 40 years ago in high school. It is a profound relief to basically hear my frustrations mirrored back to me after all these years, and from someone with the position Eric has. This has been life changing for me. Life affirming. And I've experienced at least one major life saving event based in this mindset. I'm only here because I walked from a particular system and discovered worlds of help that get almost no air time.
As a dance teacher I must speak up at 26:10 there are kinesthetic learners, too. I’ve taught thousands of people who had never learned rhythm until they were adults because no one ever took their hand or moved their body to the rhythm. I gave them rhythm in less than 3 minutes by squeezing their hand or holding their hand while we walk to the beat. Helen Keller is evidence that we can learn kinesthetically. For some it is their best learning style. I’ve read it’s about 5%.
Appasrently you didn't make it to 1:15:00 (that's where Eric speaks on that topic).
Eric is such a pleasure to track with. He's like the smart, renaissance, genius yet humble friend who was the close friend I never had. He could have helped me make it through the portal of math and I probably would have never quit playing guitar. And now I realize that it's still not too late! I have watched many of Tom's interviews and wondered why he feels compelled to frequently drop the F bomb which has always made me cringe and turn down the volume when others are walking through the room.
Wish we could get an edit of this video where it's just Eric taking.
Tom curses because he’s a giant puss acting like he’s a bit bad ass or a total geek trying to act cool. Kinda pitiful…
I’ll be your friend, I’m a smart dude.
EricWeinstein continues to blow my mind as a brilliant thinker and NOW as a guitar virtuoso, thanks for this video, love this cast
“All I wanted was to sing to God. He gave me that longing...and then made me mute. Why? Tell me that. If He didn't want me to praise him with music, why implant the desire? Like a lust in my body! And then deny me the talent?” - Antonio Salieri
One of the best characters & quotes to convey the message of frustration for having “just enough” knowledge. I’ve referred to (and identified with) him many, many times.
“I never want to get to the point where I’m so blinded by the science that I lose sense of the AWE.” - an ornithologist quoted by Tom
HELL YEAH!!!!!!
❤️❤️ Please bring Gabor Mate to the show! Thanks for your work. We learn so much from your platform.
Ana Sanchez Yes!!!❤️
That would be very interesting
no!!! I'd rather #Gabor Mate went on Weinstein's podcast... not this uncouth kid.
I've never seen this podcast before, but I've seen Eric Weinstein and like him. This popped into my feed, but I rarely watch podcasts longer than 30-45mins. This was 2 hours and I vacillated on watching it..but it was Eric, so I did. It took a couple of sittings to get through it, but I didn't want it to end. It was amazing, truly amazing.
This was one of your best speakers! Mentally and magically practice what you learn to understand this talk better.
Can’t wait for Part 2!
Yep, “I can only nod and smile” with the deeper aspects here, but I can appreciate the awesomeness.
8brightside8 it’s not that deep, it’s pretty superficial and trivial , saying nothing at all.
How do you know it is profound if you don't understand it?
Tom, you need to let the man talk when he is explaining something to you. When you keep interrupting it makes it hard for us to follow what he is saying as well.
To be fair, Eric does the same thing to his guests on The Portal. I think it’s human to get excited about having an exciting guest accept an invitation into your space.
Interview him again uninterrupted
Can't believe he did this guy's show....
Black Opal why? As Eric says, need to embrace full spectrum of ideas, people, places.....
@@kkpaine Nothing to do with millions of views? I dont even label myself a supporter of Eric, just seems like Harvard doing the UFC circuit no slight on either of them. I only watched 10 mins
One experience i can remember about my own portal was when i went to automotive school and learned how cars work. The engine from combustion to fuel injection.. before it was all a mystery and seemed too complicated, out of bounds... but it all stuck, the knowledge wasn't forgotten and i was interested in it.
That's why psychedelics are so great with good intentions and guidance. Reveals portals and makes it easier to go through them.
Thank you so much for discussing on the topic of dyslexic children. I am a parent of three ages 6,4 and 1. My 4 year old son has a speech delay and alternates using both hands to write and eat. I found myself getting frustrated with him because he was different than my oldest. But after listening to this segment, I am going to do some more research and read the books that were recommended on here but most importantly be patient with him. So thank you again.
Almost two years ago I started to understand life in a whole new way. I had a major perspective shift after experiencing some pretty horrible things that could have easily left me dead.
About two years ago I bought a dvd player at Goodwill to flip online and was surprised to find I now also had my own copy of the Matrix! I thought it was a strange coincidence because I had been soul searching. I was very focused on positivity, the meaning of life, self-actualization and anything that could enlighten me.
I began to become aware of my core beliefs and thought patterns that I realized I choose to focus on for over 30 years of my life. I began taking control of my thoughts and feelings and started pushing myself to walk through my fears. I used to have major social anxiety and barely talked to anyone besides my family and a few friends. I was labeled “quiet” and “shy” and I took that role and ran with it for way too long until two years ago I realized I could literally change my whole personality by changing my thinking and what I choose to focus on.
I’m not the best at short and succinct writing so this may be hard to follow. Anyhow, I was helping out on a movie set for a Netflix movie Keanu Reeves was working on. I had just carried up some drinks to the SF Fairmont Penthouse and when I reached the bottom of the stairs I opened the door and it was Keanu Reeves!!
I saw a movie being filmed one day on my way to the post office and did something very different from my usual behavior. I stepped out of my comfort zone and started talking to some crew members which then gave me the opportunity to meet the Matrix Star, Keanu Reeves!
Do you have a point here?
Joseph G. No point I’m sorry
I totally get you. I have done the same!!!
You actually have great guests, learn from them and let the ego go. Your guests are the reason people watch.
Wow great stuff Eric, I had a parallel school experience but my response was way more self destructive. Anyway your presentation of opportunity and human capacity is fantastic and a great gift to any mind receptive to it. You speak very plainly when core values are at stake. Tom is a perfect comrade & foil. Very enjoyable 🎉
The host makes much of this difficult to listen to, but Eric’s point at 59:00 is incredibly moving and inspirational.
Yup. Grateful I pulled my son out to homeschool.
Thank you for posting this. I was at 54 min and I just couldn't handle the host anymore. But I trusted you and you were right. It was worth waiting for. I have always thought the brightest kids actually get left behind because the school system is geared towards the unexceptional. But they think the unexceptional are the brightest.
Music is the portal that everyone instantly connects together. Just like food.
Karl Roth agreed; Daryl Davis getting hooked up with the kkk proves this
the concept of accepting the "failed students" seems like the story of Shukracarya in the ancient hindu tale, in which story he is the "guru/teacher" of the asuras that are considered the "fallen race". Where he takes them and teaches them to become powerful and defy the suras, that are considered their cousins and the "rulling class"
For everyone who says the red shirt guy is a bad ADHD-interviewer... go watch the Impact Theory episodes. He's actually a great interviewer... this is "Conversations with Tom"
I came for Eric. I had to leave because of the guy on too much Adderall
Den N omg, so YES! I’d like to watch so many of these other interviews because I love the people getting interviewed, but I just get too annoyed by the interviewer.
This is awful.
I just commented the same thing about Tommy billylou regarding the Bret Weinstein interview. This guy needs to eat some food instead quest bars and monster drinks
big time!
Agree!
Eric’s description of his educational experience is like someone describing my childhood.
Tom has a way of really taking his thoughts to speech. Great sit down and way to go keeping up with your conversation. Things were moving pretty quickly!!
146 IQ with a BS in Physics and an M.D. who also has a learning disability. I have gone through the complete gamut of discrimination. Happy to share experiences and the medical education system.
As someone with a learning disability I would love to hear your story.
"gamete": I think you mean "gamut"
How do you define "learning disability"? Below average in a domain? Way below average? Domain blind? And how do you manage a 146 IQ with a learning disability?
@@kreek22 You would be correct, thank you. I intended nothing to do with reproduction. The definition of learning disability I employ is a discrepancy between a persons intellectual capacity (as determined by IQ test), and their academic achievement (as determined by timed basic education assessments). My area of relative deficiency is in reading. Note that my reading score is above average, but because not on par with the other areas it's considered to be a form of dyslexia, which has been well compensated for through tricks and shortcuts. I manage because I take the extra time I need to process written material. The times it's most frustrating is when I'm expected to know something but haven't been given enough time to process the information, which isn't uncommon given that I travel in an arenas where my completion are typically gifted and highly efficient readers.
@@theapplechapel It's nice to have visible examples of people who process information differently in the mainstream. When I was an adolescent I had no such examples. At the age of 43 there are many parts to my story; so, for the sake of time, if you could expand on what would interest you, I will start there.
I would be interested in finding out more about how you overcame our challenges. I am the founder of Wuzzals an online reading program designed to help struggling readers. Thanks Jeff Harrington LinkedIn
Such an amazing session. I’m ever so grateful for this platform.
“Purity is where madness comes from” is a great quote
Yeah, but very misleading if you extracted out of the context in which it was uttered. Cuz is purity in terms of sticking to one side of a polarity. It is not obvious in the quote by itself. For purity is a concept altogether different from that.
Wow 😮 🥺 finally someone understands me this Eric guy understand what I've gone through my school and college life. Thank God finally I have found someone like me in this universe.
4:40 - The super dark place of being just intelligent enough to realize you‘re not a genius. - I‘ve been there. It’s humbling to the core. ... + the feeling that you‘re totally dependable on all and everything. Sunlight, Earth’s Orbit, Gravitation, the Moon, Water, Soil, Air, Food, Society, Family, Social Life, Services, Peace, Health.... + the feeling that your later life becomes like saying Farewell all the time. Saddening.
All I can do is surrender to God.
When Eric said “Testify”
I fell outta my chair.
Great interview!
Lol
Gotta say this conversation has open a new Portal in my emotional world, for i am one of them children who had such a struggle with the school system, Mind Opening
I'm right there with you. It took me forever to learn that I was not stupid. I knew that I was different from others but until the internet and tube came along I did not have a really good way to learn.
I love listening to Eric. That's a good thing because a lot of the time I have to go back and listen again just to get what he was saying.😁
Hi Tom, you should read 'The fourth turning' by William Strauss and Neil Howe. The authors often write on generational issues. It might offer you a new perspective on this 'millennial mindset'. Thanks for this amazing interview! Eric is amazing
This was absolutely one of the most interesting interviews I've seen. So much food for thought!
Then watch his interviews on Rogan in which he is unleashed. This interviewer took Eric off course on more than 3 occasions, unnecessarily. He wasnt looking to grasp the nuance of other ideas, just fucking cutting off the trajectory of thought.
*came for Eric, will never come back.
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This line stuck me hard- “there’s some notion that the mutants are cool because we all recognize our own mutations” f.....k😵 if that’s not enough for motivation then I don’t know what is.
Oh my God mind blowing. Thank you for confirming that my interest in wanting to go deeper and my desire for other people to experience the same thing it's not because I'm crazy it is because I see it for what it is. I feel like I'm the minority. This confirms that I'm not insane. Tile love system one my consciousness. Tom you are truly a gift. Your light and your "passion" shines through like no one else on UA-cam. Together you and your wife Lisa are so Dynamic. You both have a way of really asking the questions that stretch us to ask questions and push through our complacency that we have learned. Thank you thank you for being authentic and not giving up that word awesome pic LOL. There's nothing like a person who wants to see more authenticity and less bulshit.❤
Beautiful and amazing conversation. Thank you.
Thanks Tommy Boy for bringing a real intellectual. REAL VALUE
Mr. Charles intellectual
@@DaPoopIsInDaPudding You are right, English is my second language. I'm trying to improve.
Unbelievable learners who are being held back by education. So true.
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My situation eXactly ! What’s worse is that I thought I was defective & I carried disappointment around for years ...
Not just held back by education but traumatized by the lack of humanity and understanding in the education system. That trauma then impedes learning and perspective until the person has an environment and understanding that can heal. Our potential becomes stunted by public schools and overpriced institutions.
as someone that struggled... is still struggeling with dyslexia, always felt held back by it and for most of my live achived way under my capability. i kind of want you to write down all the tools you used and developed. partially to help myself but also because i sincerely don't want others to suffer the way i did.
Thank you so much. Both my sons struggled in school. I gave them tools. They can fix anything
Today I learned I am a kinesthetic learner. I think this video just changed my life in a most unsuspecting way
Kinesthesia is great; I think we all know how effective muscle memory can be. By cell count, the amount of neurons outside of a person's cerebellum is comparable to the amount found inside, called the brain. So it irks me when non-kinesthetic learners use the terms mind, and brain interchangeably. It's not necessarily the case. Your mind is distributed all across your body, and where we put our focus determines how we continually update our thoughts; kinesthesia feels like a wave, that ebbs and flows with alternating muscular contraction and relaxation to fit the moment. It's simply using muscle memory to get the most out of life.
This was his best riff on education I've ever heard.
Provoked by the injustice so obviously committed against the interviewer, I'm certain.
27:35 - HOW COULD THAT HAVE LOST YOU? It makes PERFECT sense. I've seen entire books written this way - a problem is presented, you pick an answer, and it tells you what page to go to next based on that - you find material there to assist with the particular reasoning error that results in that answer. In some sense, all you are interested in is the questions that the student gets wrong. If a kid comes in and aces everything, you haven't taught them anything. Yeah?
59:30 ohh this is so true. I learned computer programming from a library book when I was 10-12 years old and it just frustrated me to no end that with the standard education path I would have 8 more years spending 90% of my time learning nonsense I would never use, while the stuff I could just soak up like a sponge (andd that I make my living with now) wouldn't come until you're like 18-20. And it has gotten so much worse since then.
First time iv'e ever seen Tom, an interesting interviewer.
I feel like a total hypocrite saying this but I feel that the f-ing this and f-ing that really detracted from the intelligence of this discussion. I know there wasn't much bad language but the little there was had a big effect on how I perceived him.
I'm gonna try and cut out swearing from my vocabulary after seeing this.
I completely agree. I have heard Tom many times, but this interview was awful because of his overuse of the word fucking. It always feels to me like someone who uses it so much, is trying to appear to be edgy and cool, when, in fact, it comes across as disrespectful and stupid.
Yes. I like how comfortably he expresses himself, but it does take away from his power as an interviewer. As a teacher, I'd love to share this video with some of my students and their parents (the kids who struggle like this man did in school), but the language makes it tough to do. I have a worse mouth in private at times and will try to curb that as a result of watching this. Love his stuff though- been watching a lot.
Yes I agree 100% Throughout every interview I watch, I notice what seems to be a desire to be cool - even if the effort becomes obvious and distracting to many of his viewers. Dropping the F bomb as part of intellectual and philosophical discourse just seems a bit unnecessary and reduces credibility.
Dropping the f word is cropping up in comments throughout all his videos, that people don't see it is really necessary and are finding it distracting. I wonder if he reads his comments. And it appears so out of place it almost seems intentional. So if it is intentional maybe we should be asking ourselves what is the intent behind this? I'd like to hear his answer but I don't see anywhere where he's responded to all the different comments throughout. I really think it's deliberate. I don't think it's coming out of any excitement or emotion. But I can't for the life of me figure out what the point is. Because nobody he interviews uses the word right back. nobody. He's taking some great content and really dumbing it down and I think that's really sad. And the person who wants to share it with a younger audience to help educate them and he can't because of the language, or he won't because of the language, that seems to be defeating the purpose.
he’s thinking joe rogan
Omg this was such a great conversation - please don’t make us wait for part 2 - too long! Thank you so much!
Sad that a tired retelling of the Allegory of the Cave would turn a grown man's world upside down.
"Like if like we were like living in like a simulation and like everybody nobody knew it." Tom said so many prep school things. I think Eric was kind of surprised he was coming on Bill the Science Tom. Yeah, I've never Eric being so kind. He was like a special education teacher.
Please bring this man back this man has it!!! Wow!!! This is just absolutely the best conversation.... It needs to be said....yes...
Tom, Tom, TOM!!!!! This is my favorite interview EVER!!!!! I learned so much! Thank you for introducing Eric Weinstein, I have never heard of him before. I love the way he thinks and see the world! THANK YOU!
Wait to meet his brother Brett and wife on Darkhorse podcast
@@Casmige I know of them and listened to a few of their Dark Horse episodes. I like them very much.
I loved listening to this. I have a child with a severe disability and I hate how the school system puts her in the dummy pile yet she has the capacity to teach empathy and kindness to the whole world.
Its your own fault not the teachers dumbo
The kind of educational diagnostics work he's talking about is really similar to how you repair cars. If you car is throwing a check engine light for a misfire, it's very unlikely that the power seat module is dying (although I've literally seen that on a BMW, but that's another story), it's likely a spark plug. If you have some incite into the problem, you can short list the potential points of failure and have strategies for dealing with that short list.
Tom- humbly pleading for you to stop cussing. Thanks for your efforts to bring value to us!
so f'ing annoying. why does he do that.