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The best way to fix a major problem is to lower the third, then it’s only a minor annoyance.
too F'n solid. Nice way to talk music and not at the same time, Stylin!
LOL "we have a major problem..." 3 minutes into the video we've got uplifting music, great moods, and high spirits. you're such a clickbaiter it's ABSURD!!! lol
Hi Angel!!
Yes, Darudes Sandstorm sure is a catchy tune. :D
Yes, this is a snake oil title! Hahah!
Hi angel!
Nice, so happy for you new setup, cant wait for the visit
Wow! Wytse! This is looking AMAZING!! Great work, and we feel your pain, but it’s worth the effort, and your studio is looking so much better already (and sounding better too, no doubt!). Thanks for sharing the build progress, can’t wait for the next instalment! ❤️❤️
My partner is an engineer and he is yelling perforated plaster board!!!!
It's the stuff with the little squares cut out of it and will act like a massive bass trap.
Cool video! Major sensitive "thanks words "at video end.... Congrats for your studio improvement!
The floor is also parallel to the ceiling. So treat the ceiling as well.
I heard such roof treatment as installing a 'cloud' above the engineers sitting position
Dang, he is taken! xD
Congratz to Laura!
Super fun to watch and also super fun to hear two of my tracks playing in the video! Love you! 🥰
That's sick brother. GJ
Wow. This is so huge. Congratulations and thank you for taking us on this journey.
Many dreams would not be possible without your talent Wytse!
This is only the beginning. 🧡
Will Wytse fix the short flutter? Leds Dake a Lug!
Always stressful these builds, can only imagine the coffee intake! Wish I'd had a Lennart when i did mine:)
Couldn’t agree more Luke! Of all these types of projects I’ve done either studio or renovation related, it always takes (and costs) about 3 times as much as you initially thought 😂
The studio looks amazing love it keep up the good work 👍
I'm curious about why you chose to treat the back wall with absorption with the wedgey foam as opposed to diffusion (like with RPG panels)?
Also, what are you doing with ventilation to deal with the heat from all the gear?
If you can't lose it diffuse it 😁.
The room is getting quite small. I think that may play a role in decisions.
Wow dude! That last backdrop looks amazing! great work!
What you need Wytse is around a hundred eggboxes. Us Patreon members will all eat eggs for a month and mail you the boxes. We will make sure to write "Professional" on each box so it looks expensive and pro.
Looks amazing, and I love the Darude Sandstorm playing in the background!
Wow! amazing work! Thous speakers must sound amazing.
Dream mixing studio! this really inspire me to build one.
Oh dear. Firstly, you don't have enough noggins in your carcass. It's too resonant. If all walls are rigid and different materials used on each side, any anomalies can be fixed later. I have built over 70 successful production rooms. And fixed many more! But if you don't start with the basics.....
So nice...
May i know which is that Audio Monitor...?
How you landed in those pairs... Pls...
I'm wondring what happen with the highly classified 😜Philips monitor project .
Major Problem..not fine tuning? You speak like there was fire in the studio or like somebodies canary went away LOL. Ok, we give you your clicks. You are earning them for all the hard work ;-)
RELAX!!!!! I built a FLOATING room in Cleveland Ohio. Room in a room. I'll fill you in sometime. I had help from an engineer from NASA. You can make a dead room live BUT can never make a live room dead. SO go for DEAD and add HARD reflectors instead of stupid costly bass traps and constantly finding problems. Use binaural headphones with PINK NOISE pumped thru the mains. set up a graph and record the reflections. Of course it's tough to do...but you only do it once. (we also had a floating floor built on pounded gravel and fine sand inside of RAIL ROAD TIES! Serious. Our studio was 10 minutes from Cleveland Hopkins international Airport. The control room was excellent. The playing area was so dead that my partner wouldn't stay in in long for it made him more crazy than a loon. You could hear your heart beat and noises in your body, We added an array of moveable gobos with different surfaces on each side mounted on rollers. RELAX!!!! just a thought to help calm your nerves....or not...jv
Thank you
Looks great! I an sure it will sound the same!!!!!! You are my go to guy for advice keep it up. SalamanderTales
The room sounds pretty dead.
Many prefer it that way, obviously you do, I would get crazy spending 8 hours in a room like that :)
Good luck anyway with the new studio!
Hey, why don't you get some Flock Audio patchbays? Future proof and would make your life soooooo much easier.
3:08 oh man this track is fucking great. Anyone know the name of it that isn't Sandstorm by Darude?
It’s normal that as you start treating your room, you reach a point where it reveals in stunning details the problem areas. Flutter echo is the easiest problem to deal with, and the most obvious… a small amount of fiber or diffusion will solve it. However, the rear wall needs to have a huge amount of bass trapping since it is directly opposite the hard infinite baffle and the treatment needs to deal
With the axial mode, as well as first reflections. I’m a small room like this, diffusion would cause too much destructive colorations back to the listening position.
My man Paul dropping truth bombs in the comments
Go paul
I’m designing my home studio right now and googling every other word Paul said. TEACH ME YOUR WAYS PAUL
The room is completely empty too. The furnature and equipment will make a big difference.
@@45rpm. the room once treated should sound as good as possible. The addition of furniture and equipment etc usually adds negative artefacts, but that can be minimised through proper design.
its nice to know that im not the only person putting impedance correction between the amp and the speakers
I'm stealing that mounting system for bass trap so simple.😼
Found some clickbait in a fortune cookie :)? But a fine fine built. Congrats for finishing this new workspace. Keep well!
"This wall is treated with filth on it." 😂
Looks great. Loving these studio upgrade videos.
Too bad we can't listen to those awesome speakers ourselves.
isnt it better to diffuse the back wall and treat the ceiling with clouds?
Wow!! Nice job!! We all need a Lenard for our studios!!
Professional acoustician here - really would have used more diffusion on the backwall and ceiling (especially in such a small room). A) to treat the echo you perceived and B) so the room sounds bigger. The room seems pretty dry by now too which is another reason to use diffusers. :)
Non-professional acoustician here and gonna drop a hard disagree with Aaron. Diffusion is a minefield in a smaller room. Personally I would dedicate as much as possible of the back wall to pressure based bass trapping and use as thick a layer as possible of low GFR porous absorption over that to deal with the flutter. After that maybe look at diffusion, maybe. But it looks like you have hard front wall? That should go a long way towards providing the necessary localization cues so that you don't go nuts. interested if you'd be willing to post the REW files of your sweeps once it's done?
@@mikezietsman6044 agree about seeing the REW files!
@@mikezietsman6044 of course acoustics is a matter of taste... just said how I would have done it - I see no problem with diffusion as long as you're 3x the wavelength of the lower diffusion freqeuncy away from the diffusers, which shouldn't be a problem with most diffusers. Also I don't get what you mean with "minefield".
According to Northward Acoustics diffusion is a no go in small rooms
@@iamelec every acoustician has his/her own techniques and "no gos". As I mentioned previously, acoustics can be very subjective. I designed more than 200 studios in the last 3 years and never had somebody complaining about diffusion in the smaller rooms. Instead of blindly copying what you heard somewhere, I suggest trying it out! (thats probably one of the best ways to get good acoustics anyway) :)
Whats the Price for this Speaker System and where can i get them?
The back wall needs a lot of treatment. DEEP, low density treatment in front of membrane traps. That's very standard in professional studio designs. At the very least, I would recommend deep (e.g., 1 to 3ft) porous traps, made with low density fiberglass (e.g., pink fluffy). Not only will it kill the flutter, it is a necessity for treating the lowest modes. Diffusion can be a nice icing on the cake, but it really needs absorbtion back there. Without knowing exact dimensions I can't really get much more specific than that.
Really cool series of videos so far, can't wait to see episode 3. I can feel your tiredness after watching the build progressing.
The fact that you take the time to make these videos while biulding the studio over again shows how much you care for other people to learn. Thanks for that!
Ziet er goed uit allemaal. Die speakers vooral.
Happy for your brother 🔥🔥🔥, amazing studio ❤️❤️
You have a girlfriend .....and a studio? That's some serious time management right there.
I even have an assistant that does that time management 😂
Have you considered analog over cat cables like from Soundtools?
USE A DIFFUSOR FOR THE UNTREATED BACKWALL and the problem will be gone. (filled bookshelves work wonders for that).
Fantastic job, Wytse! Can't wait for the studio tour. Salutations from wet, grey and still sorta weirdly not back to normal Ireland! ☘️☮️🤘🏽🤠👍🏽☮️☘️
Lenart is a genius!
Awesome looking studio dude! Definitely an upgrade!! (And I also might be a taaaaaaaaaaaaaad jealous lol)
Placing a solid sofa in the back of the room can do wonders as a bass trap! Also, its nice to have a place to chill and retune your ears.
I am going shopping for my home studio sofa today!
Don't make it to comfy or the studio wenches will fight over it. :)
Justin Coletti in his podcast Sonic Scoop just recently named a good sofa as one of several most underrated needs in a studio, both for its prime function as for its acoustical benefits; in exactly thar position. Perfect bass trap, diffuser and perfectly placed for listening to and evaluating takes and mixes
More Lennart! :) looks awesome. Congrats!
That’s not a problem that is a burrow owl…. Burrow owls are not problems
Just watched Eric Valentine vid where he says low frequency absorption needs panels a quarter length of the wave, ie low freq wave = 16ft, panel needs to be 4ft, not happening, tube traps can work, but wondered why you didn't try to build it out of square at least?, parallel surfaces must cause standing waves? but then again, I know nothing, just relieved there where no Indian graves. Looks great.
I am so blown away from what you have accomplished! 2 years ago you had to move back home because of the situation and now you are building this awesome studio! It's so exciting and inspiring to see how you do things. You've become a person I look up to! Much respect! /m/
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Somebody help! At 04:51 do you hear that kick pattern on the right side or center?? I hear the kick on the right. I am in the middle of treating my small little home recording room myself. I just started but I am planning on ramping it up short term. For now I got some acoustic foam wedges to jam into the corners because on the right side there is like a double corner. Like, a corner that comes out of the corner, ya know? So I packed that with the wedges. The left speaker is basically in the middle of the room with nothing behind it and my monitors have their bass reflex tubes in the back. Do I hear the kick drum on the right because the left speaker is missing the treatment or is it actually panned right??? :D I'm going crazy here (and I am definitely going to work on my room treatment and speaker placement) so thanks in advance haha. If it's just the treatment that would be crazy!!! :D
Yeah, the top of the kick is panned right. Sounds the same on my monitors (and on headphones ;) )
I was just using the exact same track to check my low end. I wonder how many other people have been inspired by this video to do the same!
Those speakers look totally badass. I wish you could get a sense of what they actually sound like over UA-cam :(
This looks phenomenal!
Congrats, Wytse!! 🍀🍀🎉
I get the need to 'keep the tempo high' so to speak. I'm in the middle of a studio build at home as well and it's really tiresome when you make a lot of progress and then have to wait to continue. In my case it's because contractors are too busy and I have to schedule them later than I'd like. Excited for your project to wrap up along with mine haha
I'm also surprised your first instinct for the flutter wasn't to look at the ceiling. In my experience that's where I've noticed flutter occurring the most. Happy those massive diffusers and the multiple panels seemed to solve it :)
Any reason you didn't go with a quadratic diffuser or something of the like?
A quadratic diffuser on that back wall is what the doctor ordered
Amazing. So happy for you. What a huge professional studio!
Excited for ya, Thanks for posting Vid.. a great watch!!!!
you have no idea how excited I am to see part 2!
Amazing build!!! Looks and sounds impressive already. Could you put in a screenshot of the room measurement in your next video so we can get to see the frequency response of your new studio? Would be really interesting! :)
Diffusers on the both walls to disperse the frequencies in question?
Obviously, the lower the frequency then requires absorption too.
Ok I was expecting a bigger problem. Parallel wall? hard surface? Yeah ... problem (usually). So go to a store and buy a throw rug and stick it on the wall. I usually find that one with a picture of a deer or a north american indigenous person in traditional dress sounds best. Or Elvis.
man how the hell did you go from being broke to building a super studio? UA-cam must be seriously paying you well!
Dude, “a major problem”?? Really???
With dramatic music and all the BS??
The funny part is that they solve the “flutter echoes” issue with “bass traps”. 🤦♂️
I hope you get back to the nice reviews very soon.
You don't need a mic in the same room as playback speakers for obvious reasons. Also, parallel walls are a big no-no for acoustic clarity. Duh~🤔
Great video! Congratulations, your new studio looks absolutely magical. But OMG... you actually have a girlfriend? Well, I guess that anno 2021 it's nothing to really be ashamed of anymore. We live in a very tolerant society in The Netherlands. I'm glad you had your coming out. (LOL) Looking very much forward to the 'tour' video.
My favorite part was the thank you at the end... great job guys. Amazing build.
That sucks, but there is plenty you can do for a flutter echo. Try rounding the flat spot between your monitors, if that can't be done, anti flutter slats on a Helmholtz resonator may help. QRD's have saved many a studio and one of the best bits of math worked out using prime numbers and modulus (Quadratic Resonant diffusers) will spread the sound 180 degrees , mount both horizontally and vertically usually in about a 2'x4' prime 7 being the most popular but not the only one. There is an array 16' long you can make with QRD's that diffuse from 20Hz to about 17Khz. without breaking your bank. It's a new problem and you will solve it acoustically or if all else fails spend the cash and buy PSI's AVAA's, active treatment that will make your rear wall just disappear with each unit seeming like a 5x5' hole in the back, gets rid of lots of problems from the back wall between 15-120Hz. The actual range is frequency dependant but they are 1 to 4 meters square area will be treated, the unit is .2Msq and it is usually a .5 to 20 times the units size in treated area so 20x.2=4m2 max. But when all else fails...Good luck.
Thanks for a great video that lays out the exact reason why I sold all my analog gear after over 30 years and went 100% in-the-box. Great advert. Thank you.
Gefeliciteerd kerel! Congrats :D
Think i'd need 3 more monitors man... complete let down. Ahahaha messing. :D.
Congratulations, Wytse, so happy for you. I hope, you didn't forget to buy insurance for all of this :)
Looks great! But dunno about those speakers man, too many drivers all on a flat panel, those designs are dated...I'd just go with Genelec Ones or Kiis with matching subs if I had the money, or maybe Bluehorns or Danley Studio 2...coax and horns are the future (and the past of course)...and jaysus, way too much hassle to get that speakers in walls soffit mounting stuff right, and then what if you have to move, you're mad...
AWW YEAH! I guessed right!
Nice work, guys! Considering you only had a few weeks to do all this, you did a great job!
Can't wait to hear what you're doing with it :D
Big projects are just like that. You just have to keep pushing and problem solving. I know nothing about studio building but I do know about running big projects. Just keep that energy moving forward. Dig the channel, better than any channel I can find.
when you tap a rack @8:35, as much as I have heard from YT audio, "there be monsters" (many resonant freq in pitch with slapback dly on @0:37). Just my proverbial two cents. :)
Gaaf man!
I'm sorry, but if my studio design person left something like rear wall treatment to chance, they would be looking for another job. I've worked in live end/dead end/TEF rooms, and every tiny aspect of the room is planned including where they put the ashtrays on the console desk (that was the 80s).
Mmh. Wouldn't mind listening to some material in there. It's been two decades since I've been in a mastering room. Looks very comfortable, practical and stress free. Don't forget those Vitamin D supplements :).
For patching have you considered the Flock Audio Patch system? It's a fully analog, digitally controlled patchy system. Seems like it might be a good fit for you.
Patchbay is never 100% finished and optimal. Don't worry... ;-) Cheers! S
Fascinating. I can tell you are tired because yuou failed to tell us what the music was. I had to use Shazam and it told me it was "Sandstorm" by Darude.
Sounds no good even on my phone speaker. When you’re talking in the room when it’s still kind of not finished (the cabling process and patch-bay process) I could still hear nasty flutter echo. I hope it works for you because you spent so much money but it sounds like you’re in a very expensive, and compromised space.
You'd better call Northward Acoustics you never have any amateurish problem like this.
Why nearfield speakers with that kind of large baffle around the tweeters ? And not acoustical great sounding speakers ? Headphones are cheaper in fact
I 100% love your desk! I'm thinking about making something like that using aluminium extrusion but not as big. Is this a company you called to help you make that desk or some friends?
Okey, all about the viewers importans but without cool content you wouldn't have us at all so be proude 🥰 to your selve, that we still are here, hangin around. Now we "suffer" with you to the end and hopefully you get some sleep also. Everything can still go wrong 🤯 caused of some tiny shit thing you didn't predicted, but hopefully you manage everything at last. Hope you have any space left to your selve in the studion and that the aire is good enaugh in the now much smaller room.🤞
You will be able to sort that once your acoustic boards are up on the back wall.
I'm sure you know about the Flock Audio Patch System
Looks good. Are you going to install a switching matrix patch bay? So you can jump from analog to hybrid by pushing one switch?
Next level stuff !! You must feel really proud. Looks great. Have you considered one of them Flock boxes (or something similar) for your patching needs.?
BONUS: those spiked things on the wall can act as impalers if a client gets you upset! 'Wytse the paler impaler' :P
Who the heck are the 50 ppl who didn’t like this video 😂 they must be too impatient and can’t wait for the tour, this looks exciting good luck!!
What made you choose this speakers. How well did you know them before choosing for them? greetz
Hell yeah bro!!!! I can’t get enough of all this growth and development! Very impressive studio setup! Congratulations dude! Keep it up!!!